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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes that book i mentioned was talking about a transition from working on the land with handtools to working on the land with mechanised machines

 

it also covers issues of land ownership, land useage and also changes occurring before, during, between and after the two world wars

 

people have most definately been on a journey in terms of the changes that are described by the children and adults of both genders in that book

 

why is this important? It's important because creating a story of a journey for women is exactly what feminism seeks to do. So i'm simply injecting some balance to that process by saying that men have also had their challenges. For example those men described as being broken by their life working the land were then conscripted to be slaughtered in two world wars

 

Understanding these things provides PERSPECTIVE and BALANCE which are surely the bedrock of mental health and fair dealing both of which i would argue the marxist feminists have sought to upend

You seem overly concerned with 'mental health' in respect to this topic when it is really unrelated.

 

One point, just to correct you but most feminists aren't Marxists. There are plenty of feminists, men and women, from all political positions. Plenty that are happily married stay at home mum and dad's. Christian, atheist, all types of MEN and women from all walks of life.

 

It's strange you don't recognise men who are feminists. 

 

Ah, the irony of the subject of this thread. 😆

 

David Icke stops the type of negativity that pointless point scoring causes.

 

You're not winning anything. The entities win every time you for fall it. 🙄

 

You're currently falling for the"feminism Marxist" program.

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Feminism or other labels have nothing to do with this topic. I don't identify as a label of any kind. You can't leave the matrix if you are stuck in the programed ego thinking mind box.

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11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'm reading a book where people in suffolk were interviewed in 1967. The people are of all ages from the young right to old people who could remember before the great war

 

The men were described as being broken by the work load of working on the land prior to mechanisation. The women also had it tough but it says they were never broken in the same way that the men were

 

men and women have both had their challenges. The injustice of modern feminism is its total ignore-ance of the challenges faced by men both past and present. For example why do more men commit suicide then women?

 

In the book the hardships eased with mechanisation but the new comforts including TV brought its own problems and it says there were a lot of suicides in the 60's: mostly men. Feminists don't even acknowledge mens struggles or it seems at times even that men are humans with feelings

Some great points Mac. I love Jordan Peterson's take on the idea of 'Patriarch'; and he always raises interesting counter-arguments or at least providing a much wider context than the woke driven version. Don't get me wrong, I know Peterson is no guru or saviour. 

 

The 'World' seems to have changed for the worse for men over the last 30 or 40 years, whereas you could argue that life has gotten better for women. I mean from a wider perspective, we are all getting screwed and we are all worse off. But from a gender perspective the scales have certainly moved towards women. Yes, you can argue that it was too heavily the other way in the past, and you might be right, but my point is rather, the impact on these changes for men has been brutal going. 

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7 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Some great points Mac. I love Jordan Peterson's take on the idea of 'Patriarch'; and he always raises interesting counter-arguments or at least providing a much wider context than the woke driven version. Don't get me wrong, I know Peterson is no guru or saviour. 

 

The 'World' seems to have changed for the worse for men over the last 30 or 40 years, whereas you could argue that life has gotten better for women. I mean from a wider perspective, we are all getting screwed and we are all worse off. But from a gender perspective the scales have certainly moved towards women. Yes, you can argue that it was too heavily the other way in the past, and you might be right, but my point is rather, the impact on these changes for men has been brutal going. 

Jordan Peterson, best friend of the cabal.

Who would argue that life has got better fir anyone regardless of gender? Its ALL about division and separation including all the trans and hay stuff. The smallest box is the box in our mind where we believed all their dogmatic bullshit. Of folks stopped believing all the deliberate mind programing we could all just get along perhaps without the need for overlords who only seek to remove the true beauty of what being human can be.

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11 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Feminism or other labels have nothing to do with this topic. I don't identify as a label of any kind. You can't leave the matrix if you are stuck in the programed ego thinking mind box.

You did bring it up.

 

You might not identify with any labels but you live in a  world that judges you on labels. A woman or man, black or white etc. While it is good to avoid giving labels to yourself it is foolish to think others won't see according to their perceived labels. It's not right but it is the way it is.

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22 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Jordan Peterson, best friend of the cabal.

That's true.

 

22 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Who would argue that life has got better fir anyone regardless of gender? Its ALL about division and separation including all the trans and hay stuff. The smallest box is the box in our mind where we believed all their dogmatic bullshit. Of folks stopped believing all the deliberate mind programing we could all just get along perhaps without the need for overlords who only seek to remove the true beauty of what being human can be.

I know this is going to be unpopular but... Jordan Peterson is the 'thinking man's' Andrew Tate. He is yet another puppet, a brand of soap powder to fulfil the role of 'shepherd' to a lot of disaffected men. I see it in my friends, they have been conditioned by society to see themselves and other men as 'leaders', so the system provides them with a father figure to aspire to be. Textbook psychological manipulation.

 

It's like we're all in a lifeboat with a psychopath but instead of looking at what the psychopath is doing we're arguing that one half of the people in the boat should kneel down to us. It's insanity.

 

It's actually quite frustrating to see adults behaving like children because Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan or Russell Brand fulfils the way they would like to see themselves.

 

Women are different. They tend not to look for leaders. They behave differently in groups. While men fight for pole position women have a more practical mentality of survival, they work better as a group. That is why suicide rates and depression is higher in men. It's also why married men are healthier and live longer than single men. Women are just better at survival as a group.

It is also why men are becoming disaffected in the first place. 

 

Let me explain. 

 

The system sets up both sides (men and women) - THE SYSTEM CONDITIONS THEM INTO PROGRAMMED ROLES - those roles are not naturally occurring. Then it proceeds to persecute women on mass. They use sex as a weapon in particular and many other aspects of life. Women ended up as second class humans and men have had it exactly the way they wanted it (or at least for some who thought it was what they wanted - but they were still dissatisfied). Men thought we were in control, leaders, fathers - running the show! But it was all a set up for the fall to come. The entities planned to make men feel they 'had it all' so they could use it to weaponize their anger at "losing it all" later. Geezus, the amount of my friends who get triggered by this is truly disturbing.

 

WAKE UP GUYS, YOU'RE BEING USED - by the entities. 

 

Then women start to gain rights, freedom and independence - things EVERYONE should have. But then men got pissed about this as they have been conditioned to treat women like shit. How could we accept women as our equals and be the supposed 'leaders of men'. 🙄 Sooooo... along came men like Jordan Peterson to give them a focus, a 'voice' and an archetype of who they see themselves as. IT'S ALL A SCAM OF THE SYSTEM.

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8 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Some great points Mac. I love Jordan Peterson's take on the idea of 'Patriarch'; and he always raises interesting counter-arguments or at least providing a much wider context than the woke driven version. Don't get me wrong, I know Peterson is no guru or saviour. 

As men we need to stop looking to be a 'patriarch'. It is a construct to control and limit us to be a certain way. It's why then people fall for it when someone. like Peterson comes along and tells them 80% of what they want to hear so they will also be persuaded by the 20% the system is programming into you. It's all a scam.

 

The amount of times I hear people, including many of my friends, say "I know Peterson is no guru or saviour...." then they proceed to identify with his way of life and follow his beliefs - that is exactly the definition of a guru or saviour! 🙄

 

8 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

The 'World' seems to have changed for the worse for men over the last 30 or 40 years, whereas you could argue that life has gotten better for women.

I disagree. It's got worse for everyone. It just appears to have gotten better for some. The things that really matter, having a home, food and being able to give a good life to your loved ones has got worse for EVERYONE. 

 

Your PERCEPTION has been screwed with by the system. Women had basic rights denied, while men (who in the majority still had a shit life) were given perks, advantages over women. No offense to women but women were put in a position by the system to be the 'reward' for men for taking all the shit the system threw at men. Men were slaves to the system (as women were, except women knew it), but men have mistakenly thought they were free. Now women are no longer 'rewards' for men from the system (to distract them and keep them happy from what the system is really doing to men) men are only just now realising how shit their lives really are - BUT IT WAS THAT WAY ALL ALONG!!!

 

The system, the entities, tricked us.

 

8 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

I mean from a wider perspective, we are all getting screwed and we are all worse off.

 

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8 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

But from a gender perspective the scales have certainly moved towards women.

No. There is no "but". 

 

Most of the world is in poverty, but women and children still suffer the worst poverty. That is the only measure that really matters. Everything else is window dressing.

 

Also women and children are the largest numbers of victims of trafficking, sexual violence and other violence. When it comes down to brutal, REAL HUMAN SUFFERING AND PAIN women and children have it worse than us men.

 

And on a side note sexual violence by men on men is increasing with their anger and disaffection generally. Young boys are particularly vulnerable to that trend.

 

We all need to stop taking gender sides to put any of this right.

 

To be a man is to be honest with ourselves about the terrible pain and suffering of the humanity around us, not focus on if we have the upper hand over women anymore! 

 

It's a losing game. The entities rigged it that way.

 

8 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

 

Yes, you can argue that it was too heavily the other way in the past, and you might be right, but my point is rather, the impact on these changes for men has been brutal going. 

I honestly think the word "brutal" is more than an exaggeration in the context you're speaking of, especially when you look at the daily violence still experienced by billions of women and children worldwide today.

 

Everyone is suffering by being in the system. Point scoring is nothing but an energy feeding frenzy for the entities watching this 'sport' of theirs. 

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On 3/6/2024 at 12:46 AM, Phil26 said:

Ah, the irony of the subject of this thread. 😆

 

David Icke stops the type of negativity that pointless point scoring causes.

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At @ Jason57, first & foremost...  

I wish you/ someone would <please> change the damn title, there's plenty of negativity elsewhere, without labelling DI with it.. We only emulate the system when we use labels as dualistic as that. Nothing is more so than positive/ negative or good/bad. etc. I am not dualist crazy with all things, but this usage in the title is just provoking, although yes from the POV that truth has to endure doom n gloom will dredge that up naturally, but then we need to work on turfing out the trash exposed by that exposure & spoils etc... Yet it is of course a not fun exercise. Until we come out the other side somewhere or if we are open-minded enough and willing enough we may find tidbits of joy on the quest despite exposing so much of the muddy water stirred up which again yes is all part of the process, so yeah I get that part is not fun. But we ought remain open-minded and actually use what we have learnt in real life.. (and whilst we're about it, men & women)...

  

On 2/5/2024 at 5:11 PM, bamboozooka said:

icke is very positive today

 

They Are Losing And They Know It – David Icke

https://davidicke.com/2024/02/05/they-are-losing-and-they-know-it-david-icke/

 

it'll trigger all those black pilled losers that say the ziobolshkablahbah's are in full control

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captured

 

What here was captured Bamboozooka? Aren't we all captured in some sense?
Anyway, video,

I saw that I think, I thought I forgot to watch, but then I remember I did see it, but it was only short video.
 

On 2/5/2024 at 5:47 PM, Mr H said:

 

I remember getting friendly with a YouTuber once and asked once, your content is great and everything but why not once in a while post something positive? He said he tried once, and no one is interested....

 

 

Wow 😯... At least he tried in reply to you having tried with him (good!!).. and was honest with you though despite the down turn of ripples in positive karma that might well send!
 

On 2/5/2024 at 5:47 PM, Mr H said:

 

Same for anyone making a living off conspiracy stuff

 Fear porn sells. Happy porn does not sell and you do not get to eat...... as a general point....

 

This definitely one reason why the world sucks...🙃😦... at least as a general point 🙂

 

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1 hour ago, Certified Green of Heart said:

 

At @ Jason57, first & foremost...  

I wish you/ someone would <please> change the damn title, there's plenty of negativity elsewhere, without labelling DI with it.. We only emulate the system when we use labels as dualistic as that. Nothing is more so than positive/ negative or good/bad. etc. I am not dualist crazy with all things, but this usage in the title is just provoking, although yes from the POV that truth has to endure doom n gloom will dredge that up naturally, but then we need to work on turfing out the trash exposed by that exposure & spoils etc... Yet it is of course a not fun exercise. Until we come out the other side somewhere or if we are open-minded enough and willing enough we may find tidbits of joy on the quest despite exposing so much of the muddy water stirred up which again yes is all part of the process, so yeah I get that part is not fun. But we ought remain open-minded and actually use what we have learnt in real life.. (and whilst we're about it, men & women)...

  

 

What here was captured Bamboozooka? Aren't we all captured in some sense?
Anyway, video,

I saw that I think, I thought I forgot to watch, but then I remember I did see it, but it was only short video.
 

 

Wow 😯... At least he tried in reply to you having tried with him (good!!).. and was honest with you though despite the down turn of ripples in positive karma that might well send!
 

 

This definitely one reason why the world sucks...🙃😦... at least as a general point 🙂

 

Ultimately there are several layers or levels to this and whether something is positive or negative.

 

For example...

1.The World, or how you perceive it.

2. Your unconscious states. Your experiences while unconscious and whether you remember them or not, and how you perceive those experiences.

3. Your internal psychological state.

 

Ultimately everyone is responsible for whether they feel negative or positive at any given moment.

 

I would add that David Icke has no responsibility for being negative or positive for others. He just presents the information, how people feel about it is their choice.

 

When we start taking responsibility for our thoughts, feelings and reactions things get better.

 

Feeling the world is terrible = feeling terrible about the world = a terrible world.

 

Makes you wonder what kind of worlds people would start creating all over the place if they leave this one. 🤔 😱

 

We live in a universe based on laws/rules. The basis of this relies on positive and negative energy, ergo everything is naturally dualistic. There is nothing bad about duality, if it didn't exist neither would you or anything else!

 

Conflict has nothing to do with duality.

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On 3/5/2024 at 9:12 PM, Phil26 said:

I will contact you through the astral if you would like? I'll answer your questions there. If you are truly willing and ready it will become obvious to you. 

 

I'm not ready yet but thinking about how to get practical hands-on (so to speak) experience rather than endlessly reading and listening to other people's ideas and not knowing what I can trust.  At the moment I'm looking into safe and reliable ways to explore the subject but not in any hurry. 

  

On 3/5/2024 at 9:12 PM, Phil26 said:

That's probably the biggest aspect stopping you. 

 

It is a common misconception that if you don't remember being in the astral that you haven't 'been there'. But in fact you have a presence 'there' as you are in the 'simulation' 'here'. Also there are many aspects to the astral that you will only fully understand when you make yourself fully conscious of your presence there (and here) at all times.

 

Does it concern you that you have little or no memory of about a third of your life? Or that you are compelled to 'go to sleep' after a certain amount of time? 

 

Yes it's scary, if I leave my body and go astral travelling, what happens if I meet someone nasty on the other side or my body gets possessed while I'm absent? 

 

You're saying we go to the astral when we sleep? When I was a child I often used to dream about flying, I would be in a landscape and just sort of lean forwards and take off up to about max of treetop height and other people around me didn't get surprised. But I've only consciously had OOBEs a couple of times. 

 

Yes it's  all concerning, but then I have a lot of inquiring to do to understand this. If it's so easy to travel into the astral while asleep, why is it so hard to do it consciously when awake - for some of us anyway?  And why is the literature about black magic so full of complicated rituals involving initiates and sacrifices as if it's difficult to bring entities and demons over to our world? Why can't the entities come here whenever they want ?  

 

I'm not surprised that I get tired and need to sleep every day, most animals need to sleep because our bodies are limited and need to rest. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Yes it's scary, if I leave my body and go astral travelling, what happens if I meet someone nasty on the other side or my body gets possessed while I'm absent? 

Nasty things are around people all the time. It's just you can't see them with your simulation five senses.

 

Possession happens to lots of people regardless of whether they can astral experience. Although they are less likely to become possessed if they can astral experience.

 

12 minutes ago, Campion said:

You're saying we go to the astral when we sleep? When I was a child I often used to dream about flying, I would be in a landscape and just sort of lean forwards and take off up to about max of treetop height and other people around me didn't get surprised. But I've only consciously had OOBEs a couple of times. 

It might be helpful to you to focus on those memories before going to sleep. And many sources recommend keeping a 'dream diary'.

 

12 minutes ago, Campion said:

Yes it's  all concerning, but then I have a lot of inquiring to do to understand this. If it's so easy to travel into the astral while asleep, why is it so hard to do it consciously when awake - for some of us anyway? 

Learning the piano is more difficult for some than others, but with enough practice ...

 

12 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

And why is the literature about black magic so full of complicated rituals involving initiates and sacrifices as if it's difficult to bring entities and demons over to our world? Why can't the entities come here whenever they want ?  

They can. Most of the stuff in books is bs.

 

Black, white or grey magic is really just labels.

 

12 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

I'm not surprised that I get tired and need to sleep every day, most animals need to sleep because our bodies are limited and need to rest. 

 

 

 

There's more to it than that though.

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21 hours ago, Phil26 said:

Nasty things are around people all the time. It's just you can't see them with your simulation five senses.

 

Possession happens to lots of people regardless of whether they can astral experience. Although they are less likely to become possessed if they can astral experience.

 

It might be helpful to you to focus on those memories before going to sleep. And many sources recommend keeping a 'dream diary'.

 

Learning the piano is more difficult for some than others, but with enough practice ... 

 

Cheers, I need to do some more research and satisfy myself I can do it safely. If I get anywhere I'll start up a thread. 

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21 hours ago, Campion said:

And why is the literature about black magic so full of complicated rituals involving initiates and sacrifices as if it's difficult to bring entities and demons over to our world? Why can't the entities come here whenever they want ?  

 

21 hours ago, Phil26 said:

They can. Most of the stuff in books is bs.

 

Black, white or grey magic is really just labels.

 

Thinking about it, the classic black magic / ceremonial magic sorcery and necromancy is geared towards calling up powerful entities who the occultist can control, and therefore increase their own power for whatever nefarious purpose. 

 

Vice-versa, in situations where 'white' practitioners like Wiccans want to protect themselves from malicious entities and bad energy, they cast a circle, perhaps with salt and magical symbols, and stay inside it for the duration of the ritual. 

 

I never tried that stuff myself so don't know if it's true either, or just psychologically true. 

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On 3/7/2024 at 8:46 PM, Certified Green of Heart said:

At @ Jason57, first & foremost...  

I wish you/ someone would <please> change the damn title, there's plenty of negativity elsewhere, without labelling DI with it.. We only emulate the system when we use labels as dualistic as that. Nothing is more so than positive/ negative or good/bad. etc.

I'm only expressing how I feel after listening to DI speak. I feel low and in a low mood. It would be easy to just not listen, but so much of what he's saying is coming to pass. Basically humanity is fucked, and there's not enough people open to believing that. I couldn't care less about myself, but I have 2 nieces and 2 newphews growing up into a psychotic, communist shithole. So, killing myself won't help them, but no one else around them will help either. It's like let's all just sit back and watch the shit show unfold. That's depressing.

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5 hours ago, Jason57 said:

I'm only expressing how I feel after listening to DI speak. I feel low and in a low mood. It would be easy to just not listen, but so much of what he's saying is coming to pass. Basically humanity is fucked, and there's not enough people open to believing that. I couldn't care less about myself, but I have 2 nieces and 2 newphews growing up into a psychotic, communist shithole. So, killing myself won't help them, but no one else around them will help either. It's like let's all just sit back and watch the shit show unfold. That's depressing.

Icke also says a lot of positive stuff if you pay attention. If you focus on the stuff which looks bad then that is how you will see everything regardless of the message.

What we are witnessing is the equivalent of watching a snake with its head cut off only the body hasn't realised it yet.

We are already way ahead of the game they think they control, they even confirmed it by moving their date goalposts.

Try looking on the positive side, it really does change everything. And if you just can't do it, then stop reading and watching all news, from both sides. It makes a massive difference and puts things into perspective. Everything being thrown at us is psychological, so who is in charge of your brain and feelings....them or you?

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16 hours ago, Jason57 said:

I'm only expressing how I feel after listening to DI speak. I feel low and in a low mood. It would be easy to just not listen, but so much of what he's saying is coming to pass. Basically humanity is fucked, and there's not enough people open to believing that. I couldn't care less about myself, but I have 2 nieces and 2 newphews growing up into a psychotic, communist shithole. So, killing myself won't help them, but no one else around them will help either. It's like let's all just sit back and watch the shit show unfold. That's depressing.

 


Yeah I hear ya, I wasn't exactly trying to make void your rite to express (not totally, only a little that means, for reasons that's it's not so much Icke himself creating negativity, as he is the messenger for what many awake know or are coming to know)..

 

but THAT SAID, yeah also important is how something makes you feel, its how you handle it which matters, like being careful not to spread by proxy something perhaps unintended (just as you or I would not ideally wish to be depressed)....So then balancing these things asking ourselves could what we feel (even when not remotely attractive) be said in such a way that does not negativize everything in it's wake or just as bad shoot the messenger....

However I absolutely know that's hard when you are feeling low however, I am feeling low for reasons of my own too, and it's hard to care about things too when you are down, especially if you personally get mistreated in life, or any of us. The world and how we find it difficult to manifest positive in this world for some of us, no doubt that comes as quite a blow to some people. Me included, but NOT GIVING UP on you, or your own integrity for helping change, no matter how small your part in helping is still a gear change at some level... Just like as I've seen a person I once noted interested in Quantum Physics say similar before too, ie- in similar juxtaposition to what I just said on the end there.

Ripples happen for Good & Bad, or maybe neither (neutral) but they are seen to intersect, (even if we are talking at atomic level, equally therefore I would assume the same basic meaning applies), they could be said these dualities to mingle, or some may say even trample on each other if going by how humans are the prime worst source or example in which that happens, IMO because of the misguided way that people treat life and each other.. (Westerners especially, and I Am a Westerner but with improved more evolved thinking) ....So anyway the problem being PEOPLE with malfunctioning brains (PLUS ILL WILL) use these otherwise relatively harmonious dualities of life, TAKING THEM OUT OF THEIR NATURAL BALANCE and is almost certainly beyond doubt IMO why we see conflict in the first place, because people do not show care and respect for this natural harmony in among all nature.

 

Ps, we don't have to feel positive all the time..... Truth At Large can be a tough teacher, as can also be the VERY honest thoughts we have with ourselves, (some thoughts are arbitrary- like being fancy free or random, whereas some insidious and annoying, I'm telling ya life is like that when you go inside your own head- though exactly why the need to self examine can at time also depend (if we allow) how we are in relationship to the world that either helps or complicates our problems and and either helps or doesn't in getting us through those emotions or whatever important or relevant to your own personal way of thinking/ being/ over-coming) ...🙂👍

...🤓...🤔

So TRULY acknowledging to yourself about this for any of us~ let's just call it "HONESTY"~ allowing that Honesty its' rightful place WITHIN YOU, when taking all this IN MIND;; the following (as well as a degree of introvertness when called for) helps in as far as I find is one of the best things is this GOING INSIDE occasionally (consistently if needed like a meditation or self regulatory check in!) to assist clarity or whatever needed , but going slowly with how you do or go about things sometimes too in order to correctly set the tone for yourself, especially when resettling your mind after kaos or stress etc... and resetting where necessary to create new order for better balance, so this can be achieved sometimes by paying attention to the smaller things~ quite simply because they are just as fundamental to being helpful in your life as the bigger/ showy off things (if not even more so for the smaller) and the reward gets to be realized WITHIN YOURSELF PRIMARILY (even if everybody else is complete jerk by comparison) giving yourself, in any case a rathermore positive new assessment on things is ultimately a good feeling (whether others see it or not), and can be felt right now too, (like any vibration recognized as true or otherwise) so this starts by making incremental changes to your being; through your attitude; self esteem; and perspectives; such as granting yourself respect, empowering yourself on realizing the things you CAN change in your world, (or the planet more widely) as well as the things, where it is tough to make any headway, but if we know it is happening *& perhaps why* that we can often put down to OTHER peoples negativity or even their dominance over you for example as some not nice people of the world will try to exert. Don't pay too much mind to that, just live your own life as best you can!

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On 3/10/2024 at 3:16 AM, RobinJ said:

Icke also says a lot of positive stuff if you pay attention. If you focus on the stuff which looks bad then that is how you will see everything regardless of the message.

What we are witnessing is the equivalent of watching a snake with its head cut off only the body hasn't realised it yet.

We are already way ahead of the game they think they control, they even confirmed it by moving their date goalposts.

Try looking on the positive side, it really does change everything. And if you just can't do it, then stop reading and watching all news, from both sides. It makes a massive difference and puts things into perspective. Everything being thrown at us is psychological, so who is in charge of your brain and feelings....them or you?

Whose in control of my brain? Well, for now me. However, we know A.I is able to read thoughts, so we're headed in a bad direction that way. It would just be nice if everyone woke up. I work with people that genuinely believe in climate change lol

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On 3/6/2024 at 4:44 PM, Phil26 said:

 

 

I know this is going to be unpopular but... Jordan Peterson is the 'thinking man's' Andrew Tate. He is yet another puppet, a brand of soap powder to fulfil the role of 'shepherd' to a lot of disaffected men. I see it in my friends, they have been conditioned by society to see themselves and other men as 'leaders', so the system provides them with a father figure to aspire to be. Textbook psychological manipulation.

 

Interesting you would word it like that. It made me smile. I quite like it. :)

 

When I first came across Jordan Peterson I intuitively didn't like him, so I tried to find out why and couldn't find a single thing on youtube that I didn't like about what he said. So I was wondering why I didn't like him. Was I envious of his success, was it his voice that put me off (slightly whiney, at least for me, others may well like his voice), was it his weird blazers, what was it, so I decided my intuition about him must be faulty because everything he said made sense to me.

 

And then his "Give 'em hell" tweet turned up. And there we are.

 

What I have learnt from this is that I really have to start listening to my intuition instead of overriding it.

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On 4/12/2024 at 11:20 PM, Certified Green of Heart said:

 

How did that get to be his response to whatever that was about then? I don't think I noted that when that happened. (Why would I, I don't use TwitteX.)... but "interesting" Interested!

It was addressed at Netanyahu.

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On 4/11/2024 at 9:40 AM, Interested said:

Interesting you would word it like that. It made me smile. I quite like it. :)

 

When I first came across Jordan Peterson I intuitively didn't like him, so I tried to find out why and couldn't find a single thing on youtube that I didn't like about what he said. So I was wondering why I didn't like him. Was I envious of his success, was it his voice that put me off (slightly whiney, at least for me, others may well like his voice), was it his weird blazers, what was it, so I decided my intuition about him must be faulty because everything he said made sense to me.

 

And then his "Give 'em hell" tweet turned up. And there we are.

 

What I have learnt from this is that I really have to start listening to my intuition instead of overriding it.

The reason you feel that Peterson is off is because he uses psychology to manipulate people. That guy is part of the cabal IMHO. You are right to trust your instincts, he's a fake.

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On 3/10/2024 at 3:16 AM, RobinJ said:

Icke also says a lot of positive stuff if you pay attention. If you focus on the stuff which looks bad then that is how you will see everything regardless of the message.

 

I love David's videos they're informative.

 

But to relate to this topic

 

 

Yes it is a bit like a news format his shows. 99% doom and gloom with the story about rescuing a cat right at the end.

 

What I have witnessed is humans do not like to hear anything positive. Unless it benefits them personally i.e. topics about manifestation.

 

No one wants to hear good news. That's why there is not one single popular good news channel on the planet out of gazillions.

 

We love to hear about a potential gloomy future with all the potential horrendous outcomes for us, like we enjoy watching a murder or horror film.

 

At this point of evolution this is kinda how it is.

 

Is he spreading negativity?

 

Wouldn't say that. But not the most positive of messages if we're being honest, even if true and we're just deciding whether it's positive or negative.

 

I also don't think he currently provides any practical solutions to the problems he presents.

 

His solution recently is to not comply just say no.

 

Will that actually work?

 

Well how many people watch David's videos and how many people on the planet? On top of that who makes decisions?

 

So a few folks saying no, practically will not change anything. Maybe you tell your neighbor to say no also. But how long to tell all 8 billion neighbors?

 

Not gonna work in reality.

 

I preferred his older messaging which aligns with my experience. You're not Ethel at the supermarket you're infinite consciousness. Just this contemplation over time provides the solutions you actually need to navigate.

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4 hours ago, Mr H said:

Well how many people watch David's videos and how many people on the planet?

I live just outside a very small Greek village (that is 20km from a "small city" - bear in mind here that our major road net work is apparently a motorway but in reality is just a 1960's by-pass with pretensions (so small city = med sized town).  Anyway the amount of people in my small village that know about (and appreciate) DI is quite extraordinary - I am talking about (various nationalities ex pat) people who live here permanently as well as locals.  Ironically I was introduced to DI by an eccentric ex pat who declared himself a 33rd dan Mason (or whatever the scale is).

 

When the VAX programme got started a large majority of locals aged 60+ said the equivalent of "fuck that for a game of soldiers".

 

I suppose my point is that maybe we don't need X percent of X billions of people to achieve the critical mass needed for something to change.

 

 

4 hours ago, Mr H said:

You're not Ethel at the supermarket you're infinite consciousness.

I love "Ethel" - just a transient experience 🙂

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I don't know if DI is negative or positive but what I can tell you is that we are all on the dark side as explained in this video. So let's just acknowledge this. Once you know where you stand, things get easier. 😁

 

Mind you he is on the light side so to be processed in due course. Rinse 'n' Repeat!

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