David spreading negativity?

[DaleP]

57 minutes ago, Connor Wiseman said:

Unfortunately I don't have the skills to save humanity from the demons

 

Be like Jesus.

Jesus casting demon out
Mark 1:21:23
Mark 1:39
Mark 3:15
Mark 5:6-7
Mark 5:8-9
Mark 6:13
Mark 8:33
Luke 9:42
Matthew 12:43-45
1 Corinthians 3:16-17

 

Quote

 

"People which sat in DARKNESS" (Matt. 4:16; Lk 1:79) or in Greek, "People who sat in SKOTOS" or

SCYTHIA "saw great light."

 

 

The light being knowledge here. Much to be gained. Like Tesla and other brilliant minds tapped into this infinite pool where everything exist.

Edited February 28, 2024 by DaleP

[Phil26]

9 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

It's because 'they' don't have creative energy.

As above post, no reproduction, no creative energy.

 

So if you don't have a talent to decorate a house, you'd employ someone who can do it....right? Same thing.

And if that someone's energy was holding your world together with their energy (and you fed everything off that energy) you wouldn't be in a hurry to let them go.

 

The way they are using AI to make 'human' energy use more efficient for their use is mirrored in the 'physical' world's search for the ultimate battery and fusion energy. Interesting AI just made a major breakthrough in fusion energy that the human scientists said they couldn't solve. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/nuclear-fusion-ai-clean-energy-b2500756.html

 

 

[Phil26]

7 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

Be like Jesus.

Jesus casting demon out
Mark 1:21:23
Mark 1:39
Mark 3:15
Mark 5:6-7
Mark 5:8-9
Mark 6:13
Mark 8:33
Luke 9:42
Matthew 12:43-45
1 Corinthians 3:16-17

 

 

The light being knowledge here. Much to be gained. Like Tesla and other brilliant minds tapped into this infinite pool where everything exist.

While the Bible can have some interesting things to say about this world (read between the lines of it and see it for what it is!) you have to remember the context, source and intention of it. It was written to control the masses, create a groupthink in the form of religion. The 'people' who wrote it are master manipulators, propagandists, narcissists, psychopaths and ignorant fools. Much like the whole Jesus aka Yeshua movement was. Yeshua was an idiot and a narcissist. He allowed himself to become the poster boy for human sacrifice and now billions serve those demons in his name.

[Mr H]

10 hours ago, Phil26 said:

AI is designed to control humanity. Not only is it bad for us we don't need it. We are infinite beings. We are actually more powerful than AI, but it has tricked consciousnesses into having a human experience.

Any evidence AI was invented to control humanity?

 

How can AI trick anybody?

[Phil26]

9 hours ago, Mr H said:

How can AI trick anybody?

How do you think it does?

[Campion]

On 2/27/2024 at 10:23 PM, Phil26 said:

They exploit the normal feelings teens have to convince them they are transgender.

 

Could you explain more about how you think transgenderism is connected to infertility? I think I understand what you are saying but does that go beyond the way hormones are being manipulated? 

 

Yeah the hormones can be a factor but even more so with surgery which leaves them infertile. They remove the healthy fertile organs of one gender and create artificial new ones of the opposite gender which are infertile because the technology isn't advanced enough. 

 

I like to think I'm a practical person and don't want to restrict people's freedoms unless absolutely necessary. A society can survive if a small proportion don't reproduce and I'm not a bigot about trans. But there's a lot of factors coming together to make our civilisation unsustainable demographically and the promotion of trans is just one aspect of this. There aren't very many trans people around as a percentage, so the effect is of propaganda value with society tying itself in knots deciding how far to accommodate it.  

 

Edited February 28, 2024 by Campion

[Phil26]

6 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Yeah the hormones can be a factor but even more so with surgery which leaves them infertile. They remove the healthy fertile organs of one gender and create artificial new ones of the opposite gender which are infertile because the technology isn't advanced enough. 

 

I like to think I'm a practical person and don't want to restrict people's freedoms unless absolutely necessary. A society can survive if a small proportion don't reproduce and I'm not a bigot about trans. But there's a lot of factors coming together to make our civilisation unsustainable demographically and the promotion of trans is just one aspect of this. There aren't very many trans people around as a percentage, so the effect is of propaganda value with society tying itself in knots deciding how far to accommodate it.  

 

I agree. 

 

The trans movement is not even about trans individuals. Most of them are pawns in a bigger game.

 

As far as the simulation goes, trans people will find it very difficult, especially if they were trans as children, to get free as sexuality is used against people in the simulation, so is trauma, and sexually transitioning is trauma for the mind and body.

[BornFreeNowAgain]

On 2/27/2024 at 8:05 PM, Bombadil said:

You are so right about this. I remind my family every day to remove from their lives anyone who drains their energy.

It is why I have cut a lot of people from my life over the last few years. Some were already at a tipping point anyway and the decision brought forward through COVID. Others I just started to value my energy more and wasn't prepared to let others 'infect it'. What I have come to realize is that I was always fortunate through my life only having a small circle; and now I really appreciate it when in the past it caused a lot of feelings of shame, sense of isolation, sense of confidence. Now I see that it allowed me to grow without boundaries, and to allow my Soul to flourish rather than my 'personality or persona'. The more I continue to value my energy, the more my life moves forward and the more abundant I become. 

 

[BornFreeNowAgain]

On 2/28/2024 at 9:30 AM, Phil26 said:

Addiction has been normalised. Mental illness is assumed to be a natural part of life and unfortunately people are agreeing with it and convincing themselves it is normal when it is not.

People have stopped taking responsibility for themselves and they lean on therapists, life coaches and the new age guru culture to give them all the answers and easy ways to feel good.

Exactly, it is only normal in this deeply corrupt and controlled 'system'. In reality, mental illness is anything but normal and in fact, mental illness could be seen as a natural reaction to an insane 'World', and might actually be a sign of health in that person. 

 

The 'World' has become a giant nursery of kids who need taking care of; which is why they love authority and Government because it absolves them of any personal responsibility. I agree on the therapy aspect as it is used today. But I would say that therapy CAN be the road to freedom for many and if you continue to go inside you will often be led to seeing this 'reality' as it is. Maybe it depends on your therapist but I have known many in therapy who have 'woken up' from doing their own internal work. 

[Phil26]

1 hour ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Exactly, it is only normal in this deeply corrupt and controlled 'system'. In reality, mental illness is anything but normal and in fact, mental illness could be seen as a natural reaction to an insane 'World', and might actually be a sign of health in that person. 

 

The 'World' has become a giant nursery of kids who need taking care of; which is why they love authority and Government because it absolves them of any personal responsibility. I agree on the therapy aspect as it is used today. But I would say that therapy CAN be the road to freedom for many and if you continue to go inside you will often be led to seeing this 'reality' as it is. Maybe it depends on your therapist but I have known many in therapy who have 'woken up' from doing their own internal work. 

I agree about what you said about some mental health issues. People seem unaware that their anxiety, depression and other disorders are actually a sign something is wrong with the world around them, a symptom for something terribly wrong, which they are ignoring.

 

Therapy can be great, if it is the right therapy and therapist. Also if the person takes responsibility for their own growth.

 

Nowadays it's way too easy for people to set themselves up as a 'therapist', online for example, with literally no qualifications or checks. You see a lot of people having problems with so called therapists. I also think that the therapies that help people are usually structured and not just someone chatting on Zoom aimlessly. Unfortunately I've heard of quite a lot of people getting ripped off that way.

 

Then there is, of course, AI therapists.

 

It also takes a particular person to be a good therapist but I think quite a few are drawn to it as they think it's easy money.

 

That is so true what you said about the world being a nursery of kids. Grown adults have become infantised. It's part of the same problem where people no longer care about their rights or privacy. For example twenty years ago people fought for their rights not to have to supply their fingerprints or DNA on demand, now they hand it over to corporate entities without a second thought. In a sense those 'kids' have become too trusting and stopped having boundaries, like a small child. Of course that gives the authorities more control. It's no wonder, as Icke notes, they have Stockholm syndrome towards the system.

 

People are being conditioned into learned helplessness. 

[BornFreeNowAgain]

1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

I agree about what you said about some mental health issues. People seem unaware that their anxiety, depression and other disorders are actually a sign something is wrong with the world around them, a symptom for something terribly wrong, which they are ignoring.

 

Therapy can be great, if it is the right therapy and therapist. Also if the person takes responsibility for their own growth.

 

Nowadays it's way too easy for people to set themselves up as a 'therapist', online for example, with literally no qualifications or checks. You see a lot of people having problems with so called therapists. I also think that the therapies that help people are usually structured and not just someone chatting on Zoom aimlessly. Unfortunately I've heard of quite a lot of people getting ripped off that way.

 

Then there is, of course, AI therapists.

 

It also takes a particular person to be a good therapist but I think quite a few are drawn to it as they think it's easy money.

 

That is so true what you said about the world being a nursery of kids. Grown adults have become infantised. It's part of the same problem where people no longer care about their rights or privacy. For example twenty years ago people fought for their rights not to have to supply their fingerprints or DNA on demand, now they hand it over to corporate entities without a second thought. In a sense those 'kids' have become too trusting and stopped having boundaries, like a small child. Of course that gives the authorities more control. It's no wonder, as Icke notes, they have Stockholm syndrome towards the system.

 

People are being conditioned into learned helplessness. 

Yes, what is that quote from Krishnamurti 'It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.' No wonder for so many who 'wake up' it can be hell and brutal, especially as most around them try to drag them back in. 

 

Yeah indeed; therapy can be very effective but it can be incredibly damaging too. The amount of times I have heard 'they were useless', 'they did not get me', 'they blamed me' and all sorts of other things which in many ways reveal both aspects of what you say, that therapists can be very poor, but also that clients expectations can be so unrealistic and not based in reality. For some therapists they want to 'fix people' and for some clients they 'want to be fixed', but instead of that being a 'match made in heaven' it is incredibly damaging. 

 

It takes someone with integrity to be a good therapist and for them to have done a lot of their own work. You don't need to be perfect, but you need to have integrity, wisdom, and a lot of brutal honesty with yourself around your motivations, your intentions and your own unhealed stuff. 

 

Hahaha indeed, I used to joke when I worked on a Suicide Prevention line that one day they would replace us with a computer/A.I., and they will. 

 

Yeah the world has degenerated in many ways; whilst we are told how 'evolved we have become' and how 'so much has changed for the better'. People have been conditioned to give their rights away so easily, and even worse, some have been conditioned to not even realize they had any to begin with. 

[Phil26]

14 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Yes, what is that quote from Krishnamurti 'It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.' No wonder for so many who 'wake up' it can be hell and brutal, especially as most around them try to drag them back in. 

 

Yeah indeed; therapy can be very effective but it can be incredibly damaging too. The amount of times I have heard 'they were useless', 'they did not get me', 'they blamed me' and all sorts of other things which in many ways reveal both aspects of what you say, that therapists can be very poor, but also that clients expectations can be so unrealistic and not based in reality. For some therapists they want to 'fix people' and for some clients they 'want to be fixed', but instead of that being a 'match made in heaven' it is incredibly damaging. 

 

It takes someone with integrity to be a good therapist and for them to have done a lot of their own work. You don't need to be perfect, but you need to have integrity, wisdom, and a lot of brutal honesty with yourself around your motivations, your intentions and your own unhealed stuff. 

 

Hahaha indeed, I used to joke when I worked on a Suicide Prevention line that one day they would replace us with a computer/A.I., and they will. 

 

Yeah the world has degenerated in many ways; whilst we are told how 'evolved we have become' and how 'so much has changed for the better'. People have been conditioned to give their rights away so easily, and even worse, some have been conditioned to not even realize they had any to begin with. 

People don't value autonomy.

 

The fundamental problem with therapy is that it is against the fact that we are supposed to do it for ourselves and the therapy is talking place in a living hell. It would be crazy to send therapists into concentration camps and expect it to really make a difference. 

 

There is the problem of stored up trauma. People try to overcome it gradually, most of the time they get stuck. Then if they have a sudden awareness, especially if it is during an 'OBE' they can go into shock, knock out memory and refuse to look at it again. Unfortunately the system exploits that as one of its main control mechanisms.

[BornFreeNowAgain]

6 hours ago, Phil26 said:

People don't value autonomy.

 

The fundamental problem with therapy is that it is against the fact that we are supposed to do it for ourselves and the therapy is talking place in a living hell. It would be crazy to send therapists into concentration camps and expect it to really make a difference. 

 

There is the problem of stored up trauma. People try to overcome it gradually, most of the time they get stuck. Then if they have a sudden awareness, especially if it is during an 'OBE' they can go into shock, knock out memory and refuse to look at it again. Unfortunately the system exploits that as one of its main control mechanisms.

It is quite complex isn't it, like trauma itself. 

 

I think we need to make a distinction between good therapy done by a very skilled and wise being who has healed a lot of their own trauma, and other therapy done largely under the 'Medical model'. The latter tends to see themselves as the expert, and to also buy into mental health, DSMV and all the various labels they put on people, and also the proliferation of use of medications. The medical model also heavily favours psychiatry and psychology and again it sets up people to be experts, and in my experience it tends to attract those to the industry who want to fix people, or feel better about themselves and exert power over people. My ex was a psychologist and only later on did I see she is a narcissist and her whole existence centres around power and control. I know you cannot draw conclusions about a profession off the back off one individual but I have seen this in many colleagues over the years. 

 

Yeah, trauma is no doubt one of the biggest single factors in how our life will play out. Unhealed and it will control your whole life. However, this is where I personally believe that therapy CAN come in to it's own. A skilled therapist who understands trauma and has healed their own, can set a client on their way to freedom. They don't need to take them all along the path, just set them on their way. I have seen this in many people I have known over the years (myself included) and it works really well. But it tends to be in those therapists who have done their own healing work around trauma and the shadow. 

 

No doubt though, 'bad therapy' is more common, than 'good therapy'. 

[Phil26]

1 minute ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

It is quite complex isn't it, like trauma itself. 

 

I think we need to make a distinction between good therapy done by a very skilled and wise being who has healed a lot of their own trauma, and other therapy done largely under the 'Medical model'. The latter tends to see themselves as the expert, and to also buy into mental health, DSMV and all the various labels they put on people, and also the proliferation of use of medications. The medical model also heavily favours psychiatry and psychology and again it sets up people to be experts, and in my experience it tends to attract those to the industry who want to fix people, or feel better about themselves and exert power over people. My ex was a psychologist and only later on did I see she is a narcissist and her whole existence centres around power and control. I know you cannot draw conclusions about a profession off the back off one individual but I have seen this in many colleagues over the years. 

 

Yeah, trauma is no doubt one of the biggest single factors in how our life will play out. Unhealed and it will control your whole life. However, this is where I personally believe that therapy CAN come in to it's own. A skilled therapist who understands trauma and has healed their own, can set a client on their way to freedom. They don't need to take them all along the path, just set them on their way. I have seen this in many people I have known over the years (myself included) and it works really well. But it tends to be in those therapists who have done their own healing work around trauma and the shadow. 

 

No doubt though, 'bad therapy' is more common, than 'good therapy'. 

Medication for mental illness always does harm. Also psychiatry pushes electric shocks, which is barbaric and permanently damages that person's nervous system and brain function. It can also add energy blocks to keep people in this world.

Psychiatrists are a means of control. Psychology is different. In the United States there is a lot of overlap with psychiatry but in other countries, and the UK, it's different. I do think there are a lot of narcissists in those professions, as you usually find in professions that are about having authority over others.

[BornFreeNowAgain]

3 hours ago, Phil26 said:

Medication for mental illness always does harm. Also psychiatry pushes electric shocks, which is barbaric and permanently damages that person's nervous system and brain function. It can also add energy blocks to keep people in this world.

Psychiatrists are a means of control. Psychology is different. In the United States there is a lot of overlap with psychiatry but in other countries, and the UK, it's different. I do think there are a lot of narcissists in those professions, as you usually find in professions that are about having authority over others.

Yeah indeed. 

 

No doubt psychiatry is on a whole different level, but I would maintain that psychology is only one or two levels below that. It doesn't help of course with the way that the Governments fund psychology and services that are often mostly run by psychologists. Here in Australia back in circa 2008 or 2009 they introduced a 'Mental Health Care Plan' system that allowed people struggling to get support. Sounds great in theory, but the parameters were set up so only psychologists (and likely psychiatrists) were the only professionals a client could see. Not only that, but they were encouraged to then recommend medication, and that (at least in the beginning) the psychologists were only to use CBT. That is just one example, but in Australia, a number of services to support people mostly require a psychology level to work with the clients and because it is funded by government, is heavily influenced in how they can work and treat clients. So in essence, a lot of the psychology 'out there' in the community, is infiltrated by big G. 

 

That said, I have worked with a number of psychologists, many of them love to assert power and control, and often are quite 'distant' and judgemental. There are a few exceptions of course. I have also worked with a few personally in my healing journey, and one was great, the other two hard to relate to. Don't get me wrong, I know there are great psychologists out there, but in my experience, many are narcissists and love the power and control that comes with the role. Not only that, but many have not done any of their own healing. 

[Macnamara]

On 2/27/2024 at 3:45 AM, RobinJ said:

I saw something interesting today re the "simulation" idea which I'm still mulling over as it's something I've not heard anyone else talk about. So the basis was that we do live in a kind of simulation matrix but that we manifest it as a collective. If we think back to covid era, and the majority belief was that it was real and dangerous, and therefore we lived in a twilight world of outside influence until some of us got wise and began to speak out, thereby slowly changing the narrative from fear to hope.

Definitely an interesting concept which actually makes sense when we look at how the quantum field works.

 

that's on the level of perception though not on the level of actual reality. A narrative is simply a story NOT actual reality. A story can accurately reflect reality or it can give a distorted perception of reality but reality remains the same either way. Reality doesn't care if you want to lie to yourself. I've spent enough time in the mountains to know this; if you put a foot wrong, the mountains will snuff you out. They care not how you feel about it. We are in the bardo of harsh reality.

 

the PERCEPTION of the bulk of the public was that there was a deadly virus and that the government had overseen the creation of a miracle cure created in record time that was 100% safe and effective against the alleged virus because the government had given them a narrative/a story that claimed that. But that wasn't actual reality. It was just a false perception of reality created from a false story

 

If a person is standing on a train track and behind them a train is coming down the track and someone shouts to them that a train is coming down the track it doesn't matter what that person BELIEVES ie what their perception is, if they don't get off the track they will get hit by the train. Lets say the person on the track doesn't believe the other person about the coming of the train. Their PERCEPTION is that there is no train but their perception is false. It doesn't matter how much that person meditates or how many crystals they adorn themself with the reality train is still coming down the line and is going to snuff them out

 

Now if a bad actor creates the perception that there is no train coming down the line then that is sorcery and they have placed that person under a spell ie they have been given a false perception of reality that does not align with how reality actually is

 

There are people on this forum pushing false perceptions of reality all the time. Its the people whose claims constantly ALIGN with reality that you can trust because those are the ones who have torn down the false perceptions and can see clearly. Other people whose claims are NOT affirmed by reality are blind and no amount of loud opinionating will change their state just as no amount of meditating will save someone who refuses to take right action eg stepping off the train track

 

So there is the matrix of false perceptions created by the system but david is going beyond that and saying that the entire 'physical' reality in which those dramas are playing out is itself a sort of simulation

Edited March 1, 2024 by Macnamara

[novymir]

4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

 

If a person is standing on a train track and behind them a train is coming down the track and someone shouts to them that a train is coming down the track it doesn't matter what that person BELIEVES ie what their perception is, if they don't get off the track they will get hit by the train. Lets say the person on the track doesn't believe the other person about the coming of the train. Their PERCEPTION is that there is no train but their perception is false. It doesn't matter how much that person meditates or how many crystals they adorn themself with the reality train is still coming down the line and is going to snuff them out

 

First off, you're fantasizing about it...running a movie in your head...and you're the "director".

 

 

But..actually, that's YOUR "belief"+ perception. That is the "system of belief" you have accepted as being in alignment with "reality". Presumably because it was considered an interesting/desirable "experience" to have.

 

And so it will be. And you will say; "that's "reality"!"

 

And then you'll tell me to go test it, try to "prove you wrong"...hehe....but whatever you see, hear about, or "believe" about it...even if "others" verify it for you...they're doing so because that's what you asked for and seek, they're being conjured up and coordinated to "confirm" what you, and apparently they, seem to want to be "real".

 

Your experience and what you see, it tells you what is dominating your mind. That's where everything is. The whole world is in your mind. "Little you" is just a inward projection of the larger you. It ends up being an in-version.

 

We're all projecting what we see. Just because "others" "see" the same thing or different, doesn't change that fact. If it's something you've never thought of consciously, or that you consciously don't want,  that just means there is something hiding in your mind that has the power to get you to project things that suit it's purpose, not necessarily the "conscious" idea of "you" that you "think" you are.

 

There's also something else in there(The Real), and it's been suppressed by that other thing that doesn't really like you, it'd like to kill you, but it can't so torture and enslavement is it's next best option..it works overtime to desensitize people to what it is subjecting them to.

 

And that "something" hiding in your mind just may be hiding in others minds as well, and it may be of the same nature, and be able to communicate/coordinate things to the whole population below their awareness....and generate seriously ugly shit to "see" and "experience".

The other thing(The Real) that is suppressed offers the opposite to and through Infinity.

 

 

Deceit is dominating everyone's or nearly everyone's mind here.

 

It is the prerequisite to get in "here", it is the ticket to the "funhouse".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course then, the ticket out is the opposite of deceit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yeah, there's definitely something that would like to "prove" me "wrong"...and any mistake or misstep on my part it will try to take advantage.

 

But why would any genuine people wish to "prove" me wrong...why would they will me to be "proven" wrong? And then experience somesuch unpleasant "consequences"?

 

What would be influencing such a thing?

 

That's just like; there's a fine line concerning the injections...am I hoping to be proven "right"?

 

No, I don't really know what the effect will be on people, but it looks to me that there is a risk of damage because of them, and I am certain some people that die or get some otherwise inexplicable illness is probably because of them.

 

And it looks to me that was the intention of the makers, I'm certain of that one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2024 by novymir

[Phil26]

20 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Yeah indeed. 

 

No doubt psychiatry is on a whole different level, but I would maintain that psychology is only one or two levels below that. It doesn't help of course with the way that the Governments fund psychology and services that are often mostly run by psychologists. Here in Australia back in circa 2008 or 2009 they introduced a 'Mental Health Care Plan' system that allowed people struggling to get support. Sounds great in theory, but the parameters were set up so only psychologists (and likely psychiatrists) were the only professionals a client could see. Not only that, but they were encouraged to then recommend medication, and that (at least in the beginning) the psychologists were only to use CBT. That is just one example, but in Australia, a number of services to support people mostly require a psychology level to work with the clients and because it is funded by government, is heavily influenced in how they can work and treat clients. So in essence, a lot of the psychology 'out there' in the community, is infiltrated by big G. 

 

That said, I have worked with a number of psychologists, many of them love to assert power and control, and often are quite 'distant' and judgemental. There are a few exceptions of course. I have also worked with a few personally in my healing journey, and one was great, the other two hard to relate to. Don't get me wrong, I know there are great psychologists out there, but in my experience, many are narcissists and love the power and control that comes with the role. Not only that, but many have not done any of their own healing. 

All excellent points, and my personal experience has been similar to yours in that respect.

 

Let's not forget that it is psychologists who ran MKULTRA. Australia has seen that. In the UK they were still running those psychological 'projects' on kids through schools and military bases into the 1980s and beyond that. A friend of mine, who was a psychologist during the 1990s has had personal experience of knowing psychologists 'researching' on young people at military bases in the UK. Some were from the care system, some their parents were paid for their children's participation in the research and some were born and brought up on the bases. The military are recruiting a lot of psychologists in increasing numbers.

 

 

The UK government is spending £16.8 billion this year on mental health services and it is increasing every year. That's not good. It simply means they are pushing more people into 'needing' mental health treatment. It is disturbing. They are encouraging everyone to think they have a mental illness. They are conditioning more and more children in accepting a lifetime of mental illness.

 

This for example, "Children’s mental health
A 2023 survey of children and young people’s mental health found that 20% of children aged 8 to 16 had a probable mental disorder in 2023, up from 12% in 2017. Among those aged 17 to 19, 10% had a probable mental disorder in 2017, rising to 23% in 2023.".

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06988/

 

They are hiding the real cause behind those statistics. They try and say it's just modern life causing it, but look at the tough lives people have lived in the last 150 years, but only in the last 20 we see this trend towards the normalisation of mental illness in young adults and children.

[Phil26]

8 hours ago, Macnamara said:

If a person is standing on a train track and behind them a train is coming down the track and someone shouts to them that a train is coming down the track it doesn't matter what that person BELIEVES ie what their perception is, if they don't get off the track they will get hit by the train. Lets say the person on the track doesn't believe the other person about the coming of the train. Their PERCEPTION is that there is no train but their perception is false. It doesn't matter how much that person meditates or how many crystals they adorn themself with the reality train is still coming down the line and is going to snuff them out.

 

 

So there is the matrix of false perceptions created by the system but david is going beyond that and saying that the entire 'physical' reality in which those dramas are playing out is itself a sort of simulation

That's because this world IS a simulation. At the same time any simulation will have rules, so a train running someone over in the simulation is because  they agreed to the rules that it could run them over and they could die.

 

A simulation doesn't mean no rules. 

[Campion]

9 hours ago, Phil26 said:

That's because this world IS a simulation. At the same time any simulation will have rules, so a train running someone over in the simulation is because  they agreed to the rules that it could run them over and they could die.

 

A simulation doesn't mean no rules. 

 

This world is part of the solar system, galaxy and ultimately the whole physical universe. Are you saying the entire 14 or so billion years of astronomy is a simulation? Or is it just planet Earth?  

[novymir]

simulation

noun

sim·u·la·tion ˌsim-yə-ˈlā-shən 

 

Synonyms of simulation

1

: the act or process of simulating

 

2

: a sham object : COUNTERFEIT

 

3

a

: the imitative representation of the functioning of one system or process by means of the functioning of another

a computer simulation of an industrial process

 

b

: examination of a problem often not subject to direct experimentation by means of a simulating device

 

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real

1 of 5

adjective

re·al ˈrē(-ə)l 

 

Synonyms of real

1

a

: having objective independent existence

unable to believe that what he saw was real

 

b

: not artificial, fraudulent, or illusory : GENUINE

real gold

 

also  : being precisely what the name implies 

a real professional 

 

c(1)

: occurring or existing in actuality

saw a real live celebrity

 

a story of real life

 

(2)

: of or relating to practical or everyday concerns or activities

left school to live in the real world

 

(3)

: behaving or presented in a way that feels true, honest, or familiar and without pretension or affectation

 

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How can one know the difference?

 

 

 

truth

plural truths ˈtrüt͟hz  

ˈtrüths

Synonyms of truth

1

a(1)

: the body of real things, events, and facts : ACTUALITY

(2)

: the state of being the case : FACT

(3)

often capitalized  : a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality

b

: a judgment, proposition, or idea that is true or accepted as true ["accepted as true" is bullshit, something is true whether it is "accepted" or not, lots of people accept falsehoods as "true", and "consensus" is not necessarily synonymous with "true", "truth", or "reality".]

truths of thermodynamics

 

c

: the body of true statements and propositions

 

2

a

: the property (as of a statement) of being in accord with fact or reality

b

chiefly British : TRUE sense 2

c

: fidelity to an original or to a standard

 

3

a

: sincerity in action, character, and utterance

b

archaic : FIDELITY, CONSTANCY

 

4

capitalized  Christian Science : GOD

 

 

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inversion

noun

in·ver·sion in-ˈvər-zhən  

-shən

 

plural inversions

1

: a reversal of position, order, form, or relationship: such as

a(1)

: a change in normal word order

especially  : the placement of a verb before its subject

(2)

: the process or result of changing or reversing the relative positions of the notes of a musical interval, chord, or phrase

b

: the condition of being turned inward or inside out

c

: a breaking off of a chromosome section and its subsequent reattachment in inverted position

also  : a chromosomal section that has undergone this process

 

2

: the act or process of inverting

 

 

 

 

 

 

The lens is deceit.

 

What do you think is outside the room?

Something scary? Nothing? 

 

I submit that it is the opposite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"We"--that consciousness, has "virtually" left The Oneness of Reality(Always Always Land), and entered- immersed our consciousness into the oneness of deceit--that is; Never Never Land.

 

The Governing Principles are opposite.

 

One is True, the other is a lie.

 

That is the "difference" between "illusion", "simulation", "dreams", "virtual reality", and Real/True Reality.

 

 

 

There are no parasites or predators  or prey in Reality, there are no limits in Reality, except that one can only be as they truly are(is that really a limit?), anything else is mere fantasy. Nothing and nowhere. Much ado about NOTHING.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 2, 2024 by novymir

[Mr H]

On 2/27/2024 at 3:45 AM, RobinJ said:

I saw something interesting today re the "simulation" idea which I'm still mulling over as it's something I've not heard anyone else talk about. So the basis was that we do live in a kind of simulation matrix but that we manifest it as a collective. If we think back to covid era, and the majority belief was that it was real and dangerous, and therefore we lived in a twilight world of outside influence until some of us got wise and began to speak out, thereby slowly changing the narrative from fear to hope.

Definitely an interesting concept which actually makes sense when we look at how the quantum field works.

I have spoken about this before.

 

And from my experience it is exactly like this, but I cannot provide any objective evidence on noemunal evidence.

 

And I would substitute simulation with illusion.

 

Why it's important to choose your beliefs carefully. And to know who you really are.

[Campion]

6 hours ago, novymir said:

There are no parasites or predators  or prey in Reality, there are no limits in Reality, except that one can only be as they truly are(is that really a limit?), anything else is mere fantasy. Nothing and nowhere. Much ado about NOTHING.

 

Nice. We think we are human beings at the top of the food chain, the apex predator and a superior species. But we are less than 50% human. I just looked it up and human cells make up only about 43% of the total body's cell count; the rest is things like bacteria, viruses, fungi, and archaea. 

 

"The researchers calculated that more than 10,000 microbial species occupy the human ecosystem," 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiome

 

It's one thing to see this on a physical level like gut bacteria etc but if there's so many other species living inside us, what effect does it have on our minds as well?  

 

Edited March 2, 2024 by Campion

[Phil26]

6 hours ago, Campion said:

 

This world is part of the solar system, galaxy and ultimately the whole physical universe. Are you saying the entire 14 or so billion years of astronomy is a simulation? Or is it just planet Earth?  

But is it?

 

Everything you can perceived with your five senses is within the simulation. In fact what you, I and others perceive within the simulation also has a personal element to, which is why personal experience can vary. We overlap with other people when it is necessary, that takes energy (and why lockdown saved the simulation huge amounts of energy).

 

For example the 'mandela effect', and even if you don't believe in that look at the unreliable testimony from witnesses for the same event. That is even in people who have been been tested for having normal cognitive functioning. Then there are the 'glitches', items disappearing and reappearing and other so called paranormal experience. Some people see things that others don't.

 

The simulation is always seeking efficiency, it avoids wasting energy. When a 'tree falls in the wood'... it didn't because nothing happens when there is no one experiencing it. The system is 'pruning' right now. For an analogy look at brain consolidation, memory and energy usage and upscale it to a 'world'. Think of this 'world' as a 'hologram' of your brain. As the simulation makes your brain more efficient the 'world' needs less energy to run it - which leaves more to be harvested to the beings running the simulation. The pandemic was a massive experiment on brain structure and interfacing to produce your perception of the 'world'. Why do you think they keep trying to put messages into your thinking about "energy efficient devices" - because you are one! It's a reflection of the foundation of this simulation.

 

It's like farming. It has become more 'efficient', at the expense of the animals and quality of food. Pesticides, nanotechnologies, GMO, battery farming and now they seek to make it more efficient with lab grown meat and veganism. They are encouraging people to live on protein drinks and artificial supplements. It's more efficient, and that is all it cares about.

 

One thing rarely discussed about the pandemic was the real reason everything was shut down. All entertainment venues, sports and live events, schools, universities, work, doctor offices, and the fact that people say even places like hospitals were mostly empty. Now that meant people were at home, all day, every day, the same Perceptual Environment. The same few people around them or no one if they lived alone. And no travel or holidays or visits for parties or events. Of course the elite could still use as much as they liked because they serve the simulation. They are the 'farmers' keeping the 'cattle' under control.

 

Now look at this analogy. Do you think it is easier to keep Truman in his limited 'town', which was a TV studio, or do you think it would take more resources to build him an entire planet to roam while keeping him in 'The Truman Show'?

 

Even before the pandemic the average person, and majority of the population, hardly left their town, except for holidays or careers, but most had the same routine, which once established is easy to maintain with less energy in the simulation. Economics, poverty keeps that under control. While the elite globe trot all they want.

 

The pandemic was a test run of efficiency for the simulation. It needs to reduce output and increase energy input. Not having to produce all those other places, activities and environments (and 'people'), while just maintaining the same small home or local experience for people takes a lot less energy. While at the same time people were giving away more energy than ever before. Even scientists are looking to use humans at 'batteries'.

 

Also the time of "14 billion" years is not real. Were you there to see it? Have you been to those other planets in this 'physical' world? You base all of that on what you are told by the simulation, mostly through science and scientists who act like gatekeepers for the system. Even if you believe in traditional science you have to admit it is constantly saying it was wrong before and now 'here's a new theory'... For a start there is no science to prove the age of the universe, it's all theory and changes all the time.

Age of universe...

Not to mention that EVERY scientific theory is opposed by an opposite scientific theory - both of which had to produce experimental data for those theories. So how do YOU decide what to believe?

Cambridge University how reliable are scientific studies?

Science is only interpretation of data, based on rules invented by scientists themselves! Science is a closed system of rules using those rules to explain unexplained data.

 

[Phil26]

6 hours ago, novymir said:

 

plural truths ˈtrüt͟hz  

ˈtrüths

Synonyms of truth

1

a(1)

: the body of real things, events, and facts : ACTUALITY

(2)

: the state of being the case : FACT

(3)

often capitalized  : a transcendent fundamental or spiritual reality

b

: a judgment, proposition, 

2

a

: the property (as of a statement) of being in accord with fact or reality

b

chiefly British : TRUE sense 2

c

: fidelity to an original or to a standard

 

3

a

: sincerity in action, character, and utterance

b

archaic : FIDELITY, CONSTANCY

 

4

capitalized  Christian Science : GOD

 

 

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inversion

noun

in·ver·sion in-ˈvər-zhən  

-shən

 

plural inversions

1

: a reversal of position, order, form, or relationship: such as

a(1)

: a change in normal word order

especially  : the placement of a verb before its subject

(2)

: the process or result of changing or reversing the relative positions of the notes of a musical interval, chord, or phrase

b

: the condition of being turned inward or inside out

c

: a breaking off of a chromosome section and its subsequent reattachment in inverted position

also  : a chromosomal section that has undergone this process

 

2

: the act or process of inverting

 

 

The lens is deceit.

 

What do you think is outside the room?

Something scary? Nothing? 

 

I submit that it is the opposite.

 

 

 

 

 

"We"--that consciousness, has "virtually" left The Oneness of Reality(Always Always Land), and entered- immersed our consciousness into the oneness of deceit--that is; Never Never Land.

 

The Governing Principles are opposite.

 

One is True, the other is a lie.

 

That is the "difference" between "illusion", "simulation", "dreams", "virtual reality", and Real/True Reality.

 

Your posting of a list of copy and paste entries from online dictionaries is not an argument for anything you have said. Also everyone here already knows what those words mean. So what is the point of that? It proves nothing.

 

People who get stuck on semantics like that usually do so because they have no argument or a weak argument.

 

 

6 hours ago, novymir said:

 

There are no parasites or predators  or prey in Reality, there are no limits in Reality, except that one can only be as they truly are(is that really a limit?), anything else is mere fantasy. Nothing and nowhere. Much ado about NOTHING.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are predators and parasites. You seem very determined to convince people they don't exist, which of course is where the phrase "it's the best trick the devil ever pulled" comes from. The power of a predator or parasite is HIDING. A predator will do anything to mask themselves or their intentions to keep you feeling 'safe' while they plan your fate. Of course that gives them the advantage because you don't do anything to escape the situation and you are completely unprepared for the horrific outcome that awaits you. Parasites are similar and will hide as long as they can while they consume you and your resources. They both win by convincing you they don't exist. Also, and interestingly as you are trying to say people are "causing their own suffering", predators and parasitic entities in any form will gaslight the victim that they are responsible for their own suffering.

 

Everything you are promoting gives advantage to predators and parasites.

 

Even in this world people are finally seeing the extent of 'human' predators and narcissists, psychopaths and those whom in human form are doing everything to hide their true intentions just so they can cause harm, use, abuse and destroy others. Those people are only a manifestation of predators and parasites of beings in consciousness. All 'physical' beings have a consciousness 'counterpart' and therefore as they manifest as predators and parasites, narcissists and psychopaths etc. that is what and who they are in their consciousness state. Ergo these beings can exist in different dimensions, not just in physical form, just like the rest of us in fact.

 

What you are suggesting is that good empathetic people create evil to torment themselves. But you fail to explain why they would do this. You also fail to explain why a consciousness that is fundamentally at 'one' with everything would want to create child serial abusers, sadistic murderers and the elite who rape, steal and abuse whatever they can get away with.

 

There are predators and parasites and they have their own consciousness separate to those who are empathetic beings.