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Am I the only one who believes a lot of what David says but always feels low, depressed and negative about life and existance in general?  There's no doubt about what David says, but he never really gives us a way to escape this shit hole. He seems to spread doom and gloom more than anything. Is it any wonder people are killing themselves more and more when they see this existance fo what it is?

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He reflects his version. Experiencer know very well with what he has filled the gaps. And since the others don't know either, the result is a negative view. The answer would be that you have to let go. Everyone must face their own reality. Why am I here and why do I have to leave it behind. Breaking through the programming means finally reaching yourself. 

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I dunno, I've always thought David was about raising your consciousness and focusing on love. Yes he highlights all the crap going on and spreads awareness of what the possible end goal is for those attempting to shape the world/future, but ultimately the message is that there is something above and beyond all this.

 

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8 hours ago, Jason57 said:

You mean by taking Ayahuasca and tripping on it?

no,in almost every longer interview he says what humans should do 

 

i'm pretty sure you saw at least a few simce you said " a lot of David says...."

"a lot" isn't everything ,so what about the rest

 

seems to me you made up your mind 

 

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7 hours ago, peter said:

What's your point

My point is that stuff doesn't work well for everyone. You'd be as well believing an acid trip is real if you believe everything you experience taking Ayahuaska

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2 hours ago, Jason57 said:

My point is that stuff doesn't work well for everyone. You'd be as well believing an acid trip is real if you believe everything you experience taking Ayahuaska

Yes but it obviously worked for him

 

15 hours ago, Jason57 said:

He seems to spread doom and gloom more than anything.

That is your perspective ,from my perspective that couldn't be further from the truth, so when it is all said and done I think this post has to do more about you and your foibles than anything David Icke has to say

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9 hours ago, peter said:

Yes but it obviously worked for him

 

That is your perspective ,from my perspective that couldn't be further from the truth, so when it is all said and done I think this post has to do more about you and your foibles than anything David Icke has to say

I can't help but feel David is usually talking about how damned humanity is.

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2 hours ago, Jason57 said:

I can't help but feel David is usually talking about how damned humanity is.

It seems to me if your going to fix a problem you need to fully understand it first so it can be properly taken care of,it's not about doom and gloom

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4 hours ago, Jason57 said:

Nothing was bought for me. I'm not sure what you mean by buyer's remorse.

I guess you're just playing dumb then.

 

Weakness is not a strength.

 

 

It should be noted also...people I think, need to move beyond David Icke and get their own spiritual trip going, he's just a messenger operating in a time and place that is only a waypoint.

 

 

 

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On 1/30/2024 at 5:40 PM, Jason57 said:

Am I the only one who believes a lot of what David says but always feels low, depressed and negative about life and existance in general?  There's no doubt about what David says, but he never really gives us a way to escape this shit hole. He seems to spread doom and gloom more than anything. Is it any wonder people are killing themselves more and more when they see this existance fo what it is?

I would disagree that he provides no solution.

 

I have heard him many times speak of non compliance and self realization. I think this separates him from most conspiracy theorists...

 

I remember getting friendly with a YouTuber once and asked once, your content is great and everything but why not once in a while post something positive? He said he tried once, and no one is interested....

 

Same for anyone making a living off conspiracy stuff

 Fear porn sells. Happy porn does not sell and you do not get to eat...... as a general point....

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On 2/5/2024 at 5:47 PM, Mr H said:

Same for anyone making a living off conspiracy stuff

 Fear porn sells. Happy porn does not sell and you do not get to eat...... as a general point....

I disagree that Icke sells 'fear porn'. Also 'happy porn' does sell, there are whole markets for 'cosy' life affirming bs. People can't get enough of hearing and seeing that everything is fine.

 

And there is loads of new age bs, especially "everyone is going HOME" non duality guru nonsense that people watch in their millions, look at Mooji and Eckhart Tolle, and Eckhart has had the jab and boosters, and people still believe in him. 🙄

 

Mooji is selling the idea that God is your Dad and you are your Dad, so just sit, do nothing and you'll be ok. 🙄 Eckhart is fundamentally the same.

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David's central message (as far as I understand it, or the way I have interpreted it) is that we are living under a control system that we are locked into by various forms of programming.  David tells us that the way to break free is to expand our awareness to see things outside of this control mechanism and to thus expand both our awareness of who we are and then our consciousness, so that we are no longer under its spell. If that isn't positive, then I don't know what is? 

 

We must remember that David is not always talking to us (his fans or followers or whatever you call us), he is trying to reach those not yet awake. The first stage of this is to highlight the conspiracy. I have taken much from his works, far beyond information. He has talked a lot about how to raise our awareness/consciousness/vibration and how to truly realize how we create our own reality. By doing all this, we break free. I am in the best place/space than I ever have been, some from David's work and others from many others and not least myself. We are our own guru but it takes personal responsibility and total self honesty. 

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1 hour ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

He has talked a lot about how to raise our awareness/consciousness/vibration and how to truly realize how we create our own reality. By doing all this, we break free. I am in the best place/space than I ever have been, some from David's work and others from many others and not least myself. We are our own guru but it takes personal responsibility and total self honesty. 

 

I'm curious, do you pay income taxes?

 

Just yes or no, or no reply is fine.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, novymir said:

 

I'm curious, do you pay income taxes?

 

Just yes or no, or no reply is fine.

 

 

 

It is a very strange and somewhat (or even explicitly) leading question. Let me say this, I never said I was fully free, I said I am in the 'best place/space that I have ever been'. I tell you what, I will answer your question if you can assure me that this is a reciprocal arrangement? 

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12 minutes ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

It is a very strange and somewhat (or even explicitly) leading question. Let me say this, I never said I was fully free, I said I am in the 'best place/space that I have ever been'. I tell you what, I will answer your question if you can assure me that this is a reciprocal arrangement? 

Yeah, I don't pay them anything except "sales taxes" which is pretty minimal since I don't buy much taxable stuff.

 

No income taxes, no fees, no "licenses', no insurance, no nothing. I'm a scoff law. I won't go into the how. But there are ways, if a person has a skill, and cash is still a mode of exchange.

 

Sorry for sort of putting you on the spot. Sometimes I just wonder about things....

 

You don't really have to say, maybe I just was supposed to bring up an idea, food for thought.

 

 

 

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Just now, novymir said:

Yeah, I don't pay them anything except "sales taxes" which is pretty minimal since I don't buy much taxable stuff.

 

No income taxes, no fees, no "licenses', no insurance, no nothing. I'm a scoff law. I won't go into the how. But there are ways, if a person has a skill, and cash is still a mode of exchange.

 

Sorry for sort of putting you on the spot. Sometimes I just wonder about things....

 

You don't really have to say, maybe I just was supposed to bring up an idea, food for thought.

 

 

 

I am 'transitioning' away from the system bit by bit. Prior to the COVID BS I had managed to get myself to a place where I was only working 3 days a week and also most of that was working from home so I was trying to get as much distance as possible from the mainstream to where I ideally would like to be; totally off-grid and self sustainable. I also had a small online business which allowed me to be building assets. Then COVID came along and in January 2022 I was stood down from my job for not taking the vaccine. 

 

I began another online revenue stream in May 2022 and another a few months ago. In May 2023 I began a program which gave me financial support to build a business which in a way was playing the system (expired now as it was 9 months). Because I have those online businesses and by playing the expenses and keeping myself under the threshold, I don't expect to be paying much if any tax this year. It is not ideal because we all need 'money' to survive. However, I am almost where I set out to be 3 years ago as I was transitioning away from working for someone. I probably am in a position to move off-grid if the right location comes up. 

 

 

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