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9 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Ah yes, if only enough other people were with us we could change the world. I see this so much yet we are still too few. The forces of darkness and degeneracy have most of the people under their spell and for the foreseeable future we need to organise and prepare as a hated minority. 

So you're saying it's everyone (or how many) or everyone stays trapped in  some insane reincarnation cycle?

 

You don't believe the individual can free themselves then?

 

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15 hours ago, Mr H said:

With respect I have on this thread and on many others.

 

The FINAL SOLUTION to ALL YOUR PROBLEMS. Is

 

For you to self actualize.

Describe exactly what this 'self actualisation' looks like? Describe it in detail. How would it function? What does it mean for everyone and their lives?

 

If you know that is the solution why haven't you done it?

 

Also, if you imagine everyone becomes one after this 'self actualisation' where does this happen? Describe when, where it exists. What happens to this world at that point.

 

And what was the point of this world and all those lives people lived?

 

Why did the 'one' do any of this?

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4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't own a smart phone

 

now look.....this is all very simple. You eat, i eat and david icke eats. We all do this because we know that to not eat leads to a state of death

 

in the same way that the wrong kind of action leads to death, the wrong kind of action leads to enslavement

 

same thing. If you accept that not eating will lead to death then you must also accept that some behaviours lead to other things including slavery

 

so now we have established this simple truth we can then consider what actions will lead to what and therefore what actions and inactions are required to avoid that

 

but lets not make fluffy, new age arguments for NOT doing anything

I've criticised new age beliefs in several comments. 🙄

 

Meditation is not "fluffy" or new age. 🙄

 

You keep going back to the same logical fallacy and when I have pointed out the flaws in your argument you simply ignore them and go back around to the logical fallacy you already repeated several times but slightly reworded.

 

You're a materialist. You can believe whatever you want.

 

Let's just agree to disagree. 

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1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

So you're saying it's everyone (or how many) or everyone stays trapped in  some insane reincarnation cycle?

 

You don't believe the individual can free themselves then?

 

Yes, individuals can and do free themselves, but for our whole society to push back against the illuminati agenda needs a lot more to wake up in a practical way and do something about it. At the moment we are still going downhill as we can see every day in the news. 

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6 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

lets consider some very simple examples which can be extrapolated across our lives and across the whole of society

 

the state comes out and says ''you must take these covid jabs''

 

and i say ''no way''

 

now because i was a minority i did not manage to stop that agenda. However if tens of millions had also said 'no' then the agenda could not go ahead

 

During the jabbing the state created apps and a 'track and trace' scheme that was reliant on people owning smart phones. Now i didn't have a smart phone so i could not participate but as i was a minority this did not stop the agenda. However if tens of millions of people had listened to me over many years PRIOR to the covid scamdemic telling people to get rid of their smart tech then the agenda could not have gone ahead

 

see the pattern here? Now apply it to everything from food, to media consumed, to banks to everything and we can see that evil only succeeds through peoples support. the answer then is for people to WITHDRAW THEIR SUPPORT but for this to happen requires people to understand what is going on and therefore WHY they need to take those actions when it might seem, in the short term, to be easier not to. And for that to happen requires for people like me to keep 'gossiping' as you put it so that everyone becomes cogniscent of these things and can then make informed choices

The 'gossip' I was referring to came from a website link you posted that literally had the word gossip in the site link. Also it is gossip when all you're doing is posting some link about a pervert school teacher. 🙄 How is that going to change anything?

 

People like Icke actually present coherent research and facts. People posting random gossip without relevance or context to the discussion is pointless. So what about that teacher? There are similar 'news' propaganda like that every day. The internet AI bots churn it out by the millions.

 

Your argument is completely flawed.

You assume everything and every situation is the same as the jabs, it isn't.

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1 hour ago, Campion said:

 

Yes, individuals can and do free themselves, but for our whole society to push back against the illuminati agenda needs a lot more to wake up in a practical way and do something about it. At the moment we are still going downhill as we can see every day in the news. 

Aha! And there you have it!!!! - quote "we are still going downhill as we can see every day in the news". BUT ARE WE REALLY?

 

Who is SEEING and WHAT are you actually seeing?

 

I'd say their news output indicates they are panicking and desperate. They are losing a lot of beings (part of the reason for the COVID scam) from the simulation. They need a certain amount of energy input and output, but some are "more trouble than they are worth", so the system is seeking efficiency. They are looking for those who are compliant, fearful, anxious and willing to keep playing the game.

 

You say in one breath that people need to push back against the elite but then you fall for their world view, which is created by fake news. Not only do they create a false world view with the news, you feed back into creating it by BELIEVING in their illusion.

 

What practical ways are you thinking of? I presume things like not having the jab, but beyond that?

 

"Oh no look everyone, the world is going downhill, little me can't do anything about it" aka learned helplessness. Isn't that creating the illusion?

 

What's your knowledge of thought forms?

 

It's all an illusion. You think you have to fight it, but you're helping to create it by giving their illusion validation.

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16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

The 'gossip' I was referring to came from a website link you posted that literally had the word gossip in the site link. Also it is gossip when all you're doing is posting some link about a pervert school teacher. 🙄 How is that going to change anything?

 

the article was simply to support the point i was making that there is an agenda to push moral relatavism on the path to normalising pedophilia

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18 hours ago, Phil26 said:

You're a materialist. You can believe whatever you want.

 

i don't think that's fair.

 

I'm just streetwise and know that there is an agenda coming from the cabal, via the 'new age' religion which aims to neutralise people through convincing them into believing that their actions don't matter

 

so for example someone who on one hand complains that the world is run by a cabal of powerful people who own and control the mega corporations who have captured governments, but on the other hand browses their smart phone in starbucks is part of the problem not part of the solution

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16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

! And there you have it!!!! - quote "we are still going downhill as we can see every day in the news". BUT ARE WE REALLY?

 

Who is SEEING and WHAT are you actually seeing?

 

Well here we are in the David Icke forum which brings together much evidence of the illuminati agenda unfolding all round the world, where do you want to start? What brought me into this area many years ago was the demographic decline of my people with the colonisation of my homeland and its transformation into a multicultural melting pot. That much is factually happening and it led me to question why and who might be behind it. That first enquiry then led onto multiple other conspiracies in other countries which some of us have concluded are connected. 

 

16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

You say in one breath that people need to push back against the elite but then you fall for their world view, which is created by fake news. Not only do they create a false world view with the news, you feed back into creating it by BELIEVING in their illusion.

 

What in your view is the fake news and illusion, don't you think there is a big problem we need to address? 

 

16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

What practical ways are you thinking of? I presume things like not having the jab, but beyond that?

 

"Oh no look everyone, the world is going downhill, little me can't do anything about it" aka learned helplessness. Isn't that creating the illusion?

 

I never suggested I can't do anything about it, but you are on the right lines that I can't do much by myself as an isolated atomised individual reliant on the central state for my survival needs. The way back to empowerment is by recreating the kind of real folk community which the cabal has been intent on destroying and preventing us from recreating. 

"The strength of the wolf is in the pack and the strength of the pack is in the wolf."  Rudyard Kipling. 

 

16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

What's your knowledge of thought forms?

 

It's all an illusion. You think you have to fight it, but you're helping to create it by giving their illusion validation.

 

I only have a passing knowledge of thought forms, would you explain what you mean? 

 

My main interest is not so much fighting illusions and shadows but exposing them and replacing a degenerate way of life with something else that's more natural and life-affirming for my people. 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

the article was simply to support the point i was making that there is an agenda to push moral relatavism on the path to normalising pedophilia

I don't think the two are connected. Your use of the article doesn't show any connection to your assertion.

 

They are pushing the pedo agenda through the trans agenda and the black pill/red pill brainwashing, which does not rely on moral relativism at all. It is using a combination of 'rights' and comparison to what is already normalised. In fact they have been pushing that agenda through the 'cross dressing' agenda going back to the 1950s. Have you read Jennifer Bilek on that?

 

Also they are pushing the pedo agenda through porn, the normalisation of 'erotica', sex 'toys' (note the use of the word toy and 'play' they use, like 'PLAY- BOY' and 'PLAY- GIRL'. The BDSM and fetishism being shown in movies and TV. They infantise adults attitudes to sex, the whole 'daddy', 'mommy' porn bs and dressing as babies, breastfeeding etc. It has been mostly done through the normalisation of porn. If you engage with porn then you are pushing the pedo agenda. The 'anything goes' attitude starts with perverting adults.

 

On a side note it's all connected to the transhumanism agenda. The sex 'toys' that men and women use to replace human connection. Artificial penises and vaginas. It gets people to normalise sex robots and to detach from intimacy.

 

It's interesting that people talk a lot about the sexualisation of children but they never mention the sexualisation of adults. The fact that adults, particularly males but increasingly females also, especially since the 1970s, have become hyper sexualised. Everyone is judged on their sexual attraction and it's even used to measure the value of a life, which is why as people get past their youth they are seen as less important to society.

 

Millions of men are defining their whole identity and worth by who they can get to have sex with them, labelling themselves incels, which is bizarre when you think about it. They measure women as high or low value by their sexual attraction to them, then they use that to measure themselves. Think about kids growing up seeing all this! Then it's no wonder they believe sexualisation is normal. 🙄

 

Sex is a currency, a commodity. It's everywhere in music, TV, movies, ads, books and every day conversation. Reality TV is full of it!

 

Are you really surprised they are going after kids now after they completely turned adults and the rest of society into a sex show?

 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think that's fair.

 

I'm just streetwise and know that there is an agenda coming from the cabal, via the 'new age' religion which aims to neutralise people through convincing them into believing that their actions don't matter

 

so for example someone who on one hand complains that the world is run by a cabal of powerful people who own and control the mega corporations who have captured governments, but on the other hand browses their smart phone in starbucks is part of the problem not part of the solution

It wasn't meant as an insult. Being a materialist is just something some people are. Personally I think it is a dead end, but still people have a right to their opinion. I thought you sounded like a materialist as you are very focused on the physical and you dismiss astral solutions to the problems of the world.

 

I agree there is an agenda with all the new age crap, but you should also keep in mind that part of that agenda is to get you to associate all aspects of consciousness with new age concepts. The astral is real and everything Icke says about the astral is 100% true.

 

We probably have more common ground than you realise. For example I happen to be streetwise also. 😜

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28 minutes ago, Phil26 said:

I don't think the two are connected. Your use of the article doesn't show any connection to your assertion.

 

They are pushing the pedo agenda through the trans agenda and the black pill/red pill brainwashing, which does not rely on moral relativism at all.

 

Mark passio was an ordained priest in the satanic levayan church and he was talking 14 years ago about how moral relatavism is one of the four pillars being pushed by the satanists

 

It 100% is part of the conspiracy

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2 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Well here we are in the David Icke forum which brings together much evidence of the illuminati agenda unfolding all round the world, where do you want to start? What brought me into this area many years ago was the demographic decline of my people with the colonisation of my homeland and its transformation into a multicultural melting pot. That much is factually happening and it led me to question why and who might be behind it. That first enquiry then led onto multiple other conspiracies in other countries which some of us have concluded are connected. 

 

 

What in your view is the fake news and illusion, don't you think there is a big problem we need to address? 

 

 

I never suggested I can't do anything about it, but you are on the right lines that I can't do much by myself as an isolated atomised individual reliant on the central state for my survival needs. The way back to empowerment is by recreating the kind of real folk community which the cabal has been intent on destroying and preventing us from recreating. 

"The strength of the wolf is in the pack and the strength of the pack is in the wolf."  Rudyard Kipling. 

 

 

I only have a passing knowledge of thought forms, would you explain what you mean? 

 

My main interest is not so much fighting illusions and shadows but exposing them and replacing a degenerate way of life with something else that's more natural and life-affirming for my people. 

I understand where you are coming from. It's the 'real world' vs the deeper levels.

 

Icke writes about that in depth in The Dream. That the system keeps people struggling around everyday life so they don't have the energy or focus on the bigger picture.

 

Your homeland is part of this. The simulation keeps trying to get our focus on anything but the truth.

 

The news constantly repeats, even the small stories, the generate what they want you to see. Basically it's all fake. The only real 'news' happens in your own experience in your own life. I'm not saying you shouldn't see what is going on, watching 'the show' can tell you what they are up to. But...

 

It is dangerous to take in the news and believe it is real. When you do that you make it real. Elections aren't won by votes, they are won by agreement. Unless you understand the astral and thought forms that might not make much sense. Trust me they know how to use your imagination to create the world they want.

 

At the moment you're trapped playing a role in a game, until you rise above that game you will be part of their creative energy. They need your thoughts. They get what you focus on!

 

So they show you loads of news stories about a particular thing, you REACT to it as IF IT IS REAL, you then create the necessary energy to make it real, then more reinforcement of similar news stories follow.

 

They used to put news on late at night before people went to bed, and of course people watch or read the news with their breakfast, ideal times to optimise use of certain brain cycles. Now with 24 hour rolling news people are being used more efficiently by the system.

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

Mark passio was an ordained priest in the satanic levayan church and he was talking 14 years ago about how moral relatavism is one of the four pillars being pushed by the satanists

 

It 100% is part of the conspiracy

Nah, it's a minor footnote.

 

Passio is just another Russell Brand wannabe. "Buy the merch". 🙄 You're wasting your time on him. Those types just want to build their platform on the same old "cabal this, cabal that" side show. You'd think by now people would realise that.🙄

 

You said that those people criticising the cabal while "sitting in Starbucks using a smartphone" are full of crap, but you think Passio is okay despite the fact that he is on at least 19 different social media platforms and is monetizing the misery of others on this planet using CORPORATE media to do it! You're being a hypocrite to support and praise Passio while criticising using a smartphone and buying a coffee from Starbucks. Passio even sells invitations for in person upgrades to his events for $60 FFS. 🙄

 

Selling books or doing appearances to get information out there is one thing but those Brand, Passio, Rogan types are only interested in self promotion and monetizing "while Rome burns". They are collaborators for the elite, the very Satanic groups you criticise. 🙄

 

Icke was talking about the satanic elites over 25 years ago!

 

The so called alternative media is lousy with guys trying to cash in on the evil in this world.

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5 hours ago, Phil26 said:

Nah, it's a minor footnote.

 

Passio is just another Russell Brand wannabe. "Buy the merch". 🙄 You're wasting your time on him. Those types just want to build their platform on the same old "cabal this, cabal that" side show. You'd think by now people would realise that.🙄

 

You said that those people criticising the cabal while "sitting in Starbucks using a smartphone" are full of crap, but you think Passio is okay despite the fact that he is on at least 19 different social media platforms and is monetizing the misery of others on this planet using CORPORATE media to do it! You're being a hypocrite to support and praise Passio while criticising using a smartphone and buying a coffee from Starbucks. Passio even sells invitations for in person upgrades to his events for $60 FFS. 🙄

 

Selling books or doing appearances to get information out there is one thing but those Brand, Passio, Rogan types are only interested in self promotion and monetizing "while Rome burns". They are collaborators for the elite, the very Satanic groups you criticise. 🙄

 

Icke was talking about the satanic elites over 25 years ago!

 

The so called alternative media is lousy with guys trying to cash in on the evil in this world.

While Rome burns there will always be those selling water, or taking advantage, its the programming. Same old churn.

Re your comment above of "they get what you focus on" - yes they do, and so do you/we. Observing the news is different to investing emotion in it, as you said. Being able to detach is an important part of removing oneself from the system, but something most freedom folks still don't get.

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38 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

While Rome burns there will always be those selling water, or taking advantage, its the programming. Same old churn.

Re your comment above of "they get what you focus on" - yes they do, and so do you/we. Observing the news is different to investing emotion in it, as you said. Being able to detach is an important part of removing oneself from the system, but something most freedom folks still don't get.

That's true.

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11 hours ago, Phil26 said:

I understand where you are coming from. It's the 'real world' vs the deeper levels.

 

Icke writes about that in depth in The Dream. That the system keeps people struggling around everyday life so they don't have the energy or focus on the bigger picture.

 

Your homeland is part of this. The simulation keeps trying to get our focus on anything but the truth.

 

The news constantly repeats, even the small stories, the generate what they want you to see. Basically it's all fake. The only real 'news' happens in your own experience in your own life. I'm not saying you shouldn't see what is going on, watching 'the show' can tell you what they are up to. But...

 

It is dangerous to take in the news and believe it is real. When you do that you make it real. Elections aren't won by votes, they are won by agreement. Unless you understand the astral and thought forms that might not make much sense. Trust me they know how to use your imagination to create the world they want.

 

At the moment you're trapped playing a role in a game, until you rise above that game you will be part of their creative energy. They need your thoughts. They get what you focus on!

 

So they show you loads of news stories about a particular thing, you REACT to it as IF IT IS REAL, you then create the necessary energy to make it real, then more reinforcement of similar news stories follow.

 

They used to put news on late at night before people went to bed, and of course people watch or read the news with their breakfast, ideal times to optimise use of certain brain cycles. Now with 24 hour rolling news people are being used more efficiently by the system.

 

Indeed, the mainstream news is a circus, sure it isn't reality, its part of the agenda itself to control our perception. Noticing a disconnect between what we can see and what we're told to believe is part of the awakening process. 

 

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21 hours ago, Phil26 said:

Passio is just another Russell Brand wannabe.

 

nope passio has been around for a long time. Called much of what is happening now donkeys ago

 

His podcasts are an entire teaching course all available on his website for free for well over a decade and half

 

The guy deserves his dues

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

nope passio has been around for a long time. Called much of what is happening now donkeys ago

 

His podcasts are an entire teaching course all available on his website for free for well over a decade and half

 

The guy deserves his dues

So called "dues" that other people's misery made him. You actually think he earned that money and attention? 😆

 

Think of the millions of humans suffering right now, many children and babies, and you're bigging up Mark Passio and his merry band of sell outs.

 

He's just another chancer cashing in on the misery of millions, just like Russell Brand and his band of hypocrites like Rogan.

 

If you really think he is teaching you anything you're in denial.

 

Stay on the merry go round. 

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1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

So called "dues" that other people's misery made him. You actually think he earned that money and attention?

 

he did the hard yards to learn what he learned. he put in the effort, he formatted it and he shared it

 

the likes of rogan and brand aren't even in the same league

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11 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

he did the hard yards to learn what he learned. he put in the effort, he formatted it and he shared it

 

the likes of rogan and brand aren't even in the same league

So you're got a saviour then. 🙄

 

You've criticised people for  propping up corporate entities with smart phones and Starbucks but you're ok with a hypocrite like Passio. He monetizes using 19 social media platforms. 🙄

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But it is a false construct, set up by you know who...

If this world is an illusion then your perspective, everyone's perspective is all valid..... think about that. There is no truth yet everyone is correct. 😆

 

 

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1 hour ago, DaleP said:

But it is a false construct, set up by you know who...

If this world is an illusion then your perspective, everyone's perspective is all valid..... think about that. There is no truth yet everyone is correct. 😆

 

 

Haha! That's a mind bender! I don't think any one person will be 100% correct. We all see things from our own perspective, its meant to be that way.

The way I look at it is like a giant jigsaw puzzle. We all have a piece, and by coming together and sharing our pieces, we complete the whole, and we can then move on.

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On 2/17/2024 at 1:07 PM, Campion said:

 

Ah yes, if only enough other people were with us we could change the world. I see this so much yet we are still too few. The forces of darkness and degeneracy have most of the people under their spell and for the foreseeable future we need to organise and prepare as a hated minority. 

Well you have to start somewhere. Be the change that you seek.

 

It's also not a case of them and us. Judging by my conversations here, even folks here are not prepared to self actualize and wish to continue experiencing as a limited human and all the stories that involves.....

 

A long way to go yet....

 

Self enquiry needs to be taught in schools and be part of everyday life

 One can hope....

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On 2/17/2024 at 10:47 PM, Phil26 said:

Describe exactly what this 'self actualisation' looks like? Describe it in detail. How would it function? What does it mean for everyone and their lives?

 

If you know that is the solution why haven't you done it?

 

Also, if you imagine everyone becomes one after this 'self actualisation' where does this happen? Describe when, where it exists. What happens to this world at that point.

 

And what was the point of this world and all those lives people lived?

 

Why did the 'one' do any of this?

I have done it.

 

The process is well documented. Either use self enquiry or neti neti process. 

 

You have to spend time enquiring what you are not until you remain. The Neuro pathways are unique to the individual

 

What does it mean?

 

Well the great discovery is that you are not a limited entity. There are no entities. So this in itself eliminate all suffering because if there are no entities and essentially just one if we can call it that, you would cease wanting to harm others, because others is yourself.

 

Additionally you get to discover the real qualities of you. That is that you are eternal, abundant and inherently peaceful by nature. Abiding by this leafs to a peaceful and plentiful existence.

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