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I am speaking literally here, and I wouldn't know exactly how it all works... 

 

And I'm taking about deep beliefs held in subconscious mind not in conscious mind...

 

I will give  example from my experience....

 

Do I believe the world is evil and kind of against me?

 

If I make honest assessment my subconscious says yes....

 

What does the world look like to me? Demonic, satanic, evil.....

 

I could actually go through nearly every aspect of my life and I find the exact same thing...

 

It's really weird. My reality exactly I mean exactly matches my belief

 

.. fricking crazy...

 

So perhaps the answer is really fricking simple especially if this is a matrix or simulation. There may not be one objective reality that everyone sees or experiences.

 

Perhaps people with same beliefs share similar versions of the simulation....

 

 

Foods for thought.....

 

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For speculation only I will include multiverse theory. There's an infinite amount of versions of us living multiple lives...

 

So maybe we get to witness the version of that person that best matches our belief system. But that does not represent the whole person or their many experienced. This would explain the vaxxed people in some cases.....

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10 hours ago, Mr H said:

So maybe we can conduct an experiment here.

 

Is anyone experiencing a world that does not align with their deep seated belief system?

 

Well this has got me thinking what is my deep seated belief system? Not the day to day beliefs I think about on the surface, but the subconscious foundations of my being. It turns out they aren't about the world in general, is it a matrix, multidimensional, demonic etc, those are surface beliefs. What's deep belief is the same as asking who and what do I love? Who do I love and trust unconditionally?  I love and believe in my wife, my family, my home and homeland, my culture etc. 

 

For most other things belief is more provisional. Is the world good or evil? Is society benevolent towards me? Do I believe in the Gods or not?  It might sound corny but I want to be practical about those things, to know rather than just believe. Otherwise believing in lots of stuff just creates a matrix of ideas too doesn't it? 

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9 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Well this has got me thinking what is my deep seated belief system? Not the day to day beliefs I think about on the surface, but the subconscious foundations of my being. It turns out they aren't about the world in general, is it a matrix, multidimensional, demonic etc, those are surface beliefs. What's deep belief is the same as asking who and what do I love? Who do I love and trust unconditionally?  I love and believe in my wife, my family, my home etc. 

 

For most other things belief is more provisional. Is the world good or evil? Is society benevolent towards me? Do I believe in the Gods or not?  It might sound corny but I want to be practical about those things, to know rather than just believe. Otherwise believing in lots of stuff just creates a matrix of ideas too doesn't it? 

I don't think we consciously choose our beliefs and for my own investigation per above I had to go to the inner child where the beliefs were formulated......

 

For example. If you asked me if the world is good or evil. I would use my conscious brain to give you a logical answer and may not reflect my actual subconscious belief system. When I go to the inner child, because childhood was horrible, I discovered that I do have an associated belief that the world is evil....

 

The best way I found to discover my deep seated beliefs was to look at my actions rather than ask my conscious brain what it thinks, because it is likely to provide a logical response only....

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Basically for one to believe something they must disconnect from knowledge/awareness of Reality. Reality is beyond belief and perception, it is wholly True and does not change, conflict, or contradict itself, so Reality and Truth are ONE, everything real must be and is in accordance and alignment with TRUTH. Truth and Reality are interchangeable terms, they mean the same thing, all truth means the same thing...and all Reality is the same.

To know/accept one part of it, one can then know all of it. It's really simple actually...

 

Basically, what I'm speaking of is GOD. The ALL-Encompassing TRUE REALITY. IS LOVE. IS ONE. LIFE BEING ALIVE.

 

 

 

To begin to remember and know the Real You, one can then begin to remember and know the REAL GOD. (Know Thyself).

 

 

 

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there can be truthful beliefs and perceptions, but they are not the ends(wholly true), they are a means to an end.

 

 

 

 

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I guess Mark 11:24 could be seen as supporting your theory. "Whatever you ask in prayer, believing you have recieved it and it will be yours.

 

Other times I think Humanity was the biggest mistake ever thought of or created or whatever your beliefs are on where we came from. If it's God I'd say it was an experiment gone wrong and beyond help.

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It is a great question. Personally I believe that there is no doubt that our beliefs create our reality, I have seen this play out all through my life. As I have changed my beliefs, my 'reality' has changed also, but it is not easy or a quick fix (another belief system maybe?). What I have noticed through my growth, is very distinct periods where I can almost 'feel' myself breaking through another level or ceiling of beliefs. I have felt 4 or 5 distinct times this has happened before another step up in levels. 

 

For me, it took years of healing my own beliefs about myself, and many of those as you mentioned are sub-conscious. As I have healed, my beliefs have changed about myself, and thus my 'reality' has changed to reflect back those beliefs. 

 

The 'problem' in the 'Truth community' is that we can invariably create beliefs that don't help us; for example, 'we are trapped in a prison', or 'this whole thing is designed to control us'. Now, of course these may be true, but the important thing is whether this 'thought or belief' empowers us, or disempowers us. I like Jason Breshears (Archaix) take on this; which is essentially, to come to view this simulation as 'working FOR you, rather than AGAINST you'. I think there is much truth to this from my own experiences. So we need to be careful 'on this truth path' that the information we come across, doesn't just swap one disempowering belief system, for another. Obviously, there are times that being 'awake' can save us from all sorts of crap, like the COVID vaxxes for instance, but there are pitfalls to this 'path' that we need to be aware of. 

 

Quite often, I identify a belief when something good happens to me; like 'oh wow, I cannot believe this is happening', which translates often to something along the lines of 'I am not sure I deserve this'. Identifying and changing our beliefs are perhaps the biggest 'game-changer' on this journey. Contrary to some Spiritual beliefs, we don't need to be poor to be 'Spiritual'. 

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On 1/10/2024 at 10:21 PM, Mr H said:

So perhaps the answer is really fricking simple especially if this is a matrix or simulation. There may not be one objective reality that everyone sees or experiences.

 

I've often had a thought close to this regarding the possibility of alternate timelines/infinite realities.  I've heard before the idea that time isn't linear, but cyclical.  What if in our personal reality, we are the only live actor, all others NPC's?  It would all be a hologramed experience for our own personal development/experience.

 

Another thought close to this is as we go through life, based on the choices we make, timelines continually unfold that we transition into.  Therefore all choices are already made/known to 'God' because all have been played out at the same 'time'.  This way everyone can have the opportunity to experience any life they chose.  As the singer T.G. Shepherd said, "I've been a King, and I've been a pauper, and everything there is in between.". One could be Hitler and make the choice to be benevolent in life.  One could be Mother Theresa and make horrible choices.  Again, each time we live said life, based on each fork that approaches, we can experience it in myriad ways.  

 

I haven't fully vetted this idea in my head, but imo it explains a lot about 'time' and how 'God' could be omniscient.

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On 1/11/2024 at 6:21 AM, Mr H said:

I am speaking literally here, and I wouldn't know exactly how it all works... 

 

And I'm taking about deep beliefs held in subconscious mind not in conscious mind...

 

I will give  example from my experience....

 

Do I believe the world is evil and kind of against me?

 

If I make honest assessment my subconscious says yes....

 

What does the world look like to me? Demonic, satanic, evil.....

 

I could actually go through nearly every aspect of my life and I find the exact same thing...

 

It's really weird. My reality exactly I mean exactly matches my belief

 

.. fricking crazy...

 

So perhaps the answer is really fricking simple especially if this is a matrix or simulation. There may not be one objective reality that everyone sees or experiences.

 

Perhaps people with same beliefs share similar versions of the simulation....

 

 

Foods for thought.....

 

Thought rather than belief creates part of our reality. We create, and share creative thoughts. The system runs it and we customise it, which s why people using ideas like the LOA can sometimes get a parking space but find it just a little bit more difficult to manifest winning the lottery. 🙄

 

There is also confirmation bias involved when people start thinking they are doing something they are not.

 

As your beliefs cause you to react differently to the creation the system puts you in it gives a false impression of you having more control than you do. As long as you are playing the game of chess with the system you are lost.

 

This world is like a casino. It's rigged and all you can do you is switch the games you play. Sometimes you win, mostly you lose, but the casino lets you win just enough to keep you paying them with all you've got.

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15 hours ago, Phil26 said:

Thought rather than belief creates part of our reality. We create, and share creative thoughts. The system runs it and we customise it, which s why people using ideas like the LOA can sometimes get a parking space but find it just a little bit more difficult to manifest winning the lottery. 🙄

 

There is also confirmation bias involved when people start thinking they are doing something they are not.

 

As your beliefs cause you to react differently to the creation the system puts you in it gives a false impression of you having more control than you do. As long as you are playing the game of chess with the system you are lost.

 

This world is like a casino. It's rigged and all you can do you is switch the games you play. Sometimes you win, mostly you lose, but the casino lets you win just enough to keep you paying them with all you've got.

Interesting....

 

But my experience is that I don't experience producing or selecting thoughts. They pass through me. I have little say in the matter.

 

Be interested to hear your experience on the matter as you mentioned we create thoughts...

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On 2/8/2024 at 11:40 PM, runhomejack said:

I've often had a thought close to this regarding the possibility of alternate timelines/infinite realities.  I've heard before the idea that time isn't linear, but cyclical.  What if in our personal reality, we are the only live actor, all others NPC's?  It would all be a hologramed experience for our own personal development/experience.

 

Another thought close to this is as we go through life, based on the choices we make, timelines continually unfold that we transition into.  Therefore all choices are already made/known to 'God' because all have been played out at the same 'time'.  This way everyone can have the opportunity to experience any life they chose.  As the singer T.G. Shepherd said, "I've been a King, and I've been a pauper, and everything there is in between.". One could be Hitler and make the choice to be benevolent in life.  One could be Mother Theresa and make horrible choices.  Again, each time we live said life, based on each fork that approaches, we can experience it in myriad ways.  

 

I haven't fully vetted this idea in my head, but imo it explains a lot about 'time' and how 'God' could be omniscient.

Yeah. I think thinking others are Npcs is bordering on solipsist leanings.

 

But I know what you mean.

 

This is first time I've had to interact with normies since pandemic and I have no idea what they are talking about, motivations etc.....but gotta roll with the punches...

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47 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Interesting....

 

But my experience is that I don't experience producing or selecting thoughts. They pass through me. I have little say in the matter.

 

Not sure what you mean by thoughts "pass through" you. And what you mean by you have "little" choice, no will of your own, when it comes to your thoughts. Is that all your thoughts? Does that include your emotions? Do you choose or produce those?

 

In your opinion 'who' is 'you' in all of this?

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38 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Yeah. I think thinking others are Npcs is bordering on solipsist leanings.

 

But I know what you mean.

 

This is first time I've had to interact with normies since pandemic and I have no idea what they are talking about, motivations etc.....but gotta roll with the punches...

What was your experience of the pandemic like?

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42 minutes ago, Phil26 said:

Not sure what you mean by thoughts "pass through" you. And what you mean by you have "little" choice, no will of your own, when it comes to your thoughts. Is that all your thoughts? Does that include your emotions? Do you choose or produce those?

 

In your opinion 'who' is 'you' in all of this?

Yes all thoughts and emotions.

 

I will tell you how I experience the mentation process, emotions are similar.

 

Thought no 1, is the question, this just appears

Thought no 2. The answer. Similarly just appears

Thought no 3 (the choosing thought) I chose the answer. Also just appears.

 

I did not dip into a bucket full of thoughts and select which one I wanted. Everything happened for me. I had nothing to do with any of it. Which implies to me there is no such thing as personal responsibility which may upset folks here. But that is how I experience the mentation process.

 

If anyone has different experience I am super excited to hear it. As the above is very humbling and on occasion slightly depressing I have to say in some ways. Cos it really does appear "we" are doing stuff (we=humans).

 

I=I

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45 minutes ago, Phil26 said:

What was your experience of the pandemic like?

Wow big question. Personally a lot of family injury from vaxes and end of life drugs. Which was traumatic.

 

In terms of others. I did not mix with others during the pandemic except to get food. And I experienced a lot of madness and rudeness especially when not wearing a mask.

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1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

In your opinion 'who' is 'you' in all of this?

 

That's the crux of it! Am I: 

 

* An eternal soul who lives through many incarnations with free will, responsibility and ownership of them. 

* A psychological construct which thinks it's in charge. 

* Infinite love having a human experience and temporarily forgetting who it really is. 

* Nothing much, just a recurring thought pattern learned in early childhood. 

* Something else? 

 

There's a meditation practice based on "who am I" which is based on finding out through direct observation. 

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1 hour ago, Campion said:

 

That's the crux of it! Am I: 

 

* An eternal soul who lives through many incarnations with free will, responsibility and ownership of them. 

* A psychological construct which thinks it's in charge. 

* Infinite love having a human experience and temporarily forgetting who it really is. 

* Nothing much, just a recurring thought pattern learned in early childhood. 

* Something else? 

 

There's a meditation practice based on "who am I" which is based on finding out through direct observation. 

Or you could be 'trapped' in a simulation, which you could leave.

 

The problem with the way you are framing it is that the question ceases to be a question.

 

Most people are looking for a logical explanation for their existence, but anything can be logically explained, doesn't make it true, just makes it logical. If you rely on that way of thinking you can easily be manipulated by logic.

 

There are many ways to meditate, problem is a lot of meditation being pushed is non duality based, which just causes disassociation for those who practice it. Not all meditation is effective or even any good and some is dangerous.

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2 hours ago, Mr H said:

Wow big question. Personally a lot of family injury from vaxes and end of life drugs. Which was traumatic.

 

In terms of others. I did not mix with others during the pandemic except to get food. And I experienced a lot of madness and rudeness especially when not wearing a mask.

The mask thing was crazy. I knew lots of people who wore masks and got flu. The masks were obviously useless, they just wanted to see who would comply. Not only that but the masks made people more ill. It's like someone going around collecting snot stained tissues and sticking them to their face. 🙄

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40 minutes ago, Phil26 said:

Or you could be 'trapped' in a simulation, which you could leave.

 

The problem with the way you are framing it is that the question ceases to be a question.

 

Most people are looking for a logical explanation for their existence, but anything can be logically explained, doesn't make it true, just makes it logical. If you rely on that way of thinking you can easily be manipulated by logic.

 

There are many ways to meditate, problem is a lot of meditation being pushed is non duality based, which just causes disassociation for those who practice it. Not all meditation is effective or even any good and some is dangerous.

The first part doesn't answer the question who or what am I? 

 

I think experience is the best barometer of truth, it's opposite being belief, which is built on sand.

 

From my investigation, it is not possible to say who I am, or what I am, if we are to be precise. Although we can do our best with words at our disposal. The best is to find out what you are not, which is quite straightforward.

 

After just a few minutes it's easily determinable that I is not human, is not thought, physical or emotion based. These things just come and go, I always remain...

 

Even when we take it to the deepest levels we are still restricted by the senses a d faculties we have. Another being with more may have better explanation. So it is said it's best, if you want to remain as I, the highest thing you can do is remain silent. Which is the non dual meditation 

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1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

Or you could be 'trapped' in a simulation, which you could leave. 

 

That could be an answer if the ego is itself a simulation, and leaving the simulation is what's called awakening or enlightenment. 

That's not so far removed from the idea of a psychological construction, which could be deconstructed. 

 

1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

Most people are looking for a logical explanation for their existence, but anything can be logically explained, doesn't make it true, just makes it logical. If you rely on that way of thinking you can easily be manipulated by logic. 

 

Indeed, pure logic and reasoning isn't enough, we also need practical evidence. Empirical I think it's called. 

 

1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

There are many ways to meditate, problem is a lot of meditation being pushed is non duality based, which just causes disassociation for those who practice it. Not all meditation is effective or even any good and some is dangerous.

 

Some types are nondual but there's plenty which aren't. In fact, mindfulness is suggested as a treatment for disassociation (tho I've not heard about nondual meditation causing it). 

In any case, the question here is how to find out what the self is with evidence. Meditation isn't the only way I guess, so what would you use? 

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5 hours ago, Mr H said:

Yeah. I think thinking others are Npcs is bordering on solipsist leanings.

 

But I know what you mean.

 

Maybe saying 'NPCs' was a little harsh.  Just to clarify my point, I'm not trying to belittle creation or how we're setup to interact, just talking out possibly how infinite realities could make sense in my head.  It ties in somehow with the idea I've heard about our own various levels of existence taking place at the same time.  I.e. we exist and operate on all planes at the same time.  It's hard to hazard a guess without experience of it. 

 

I personally believe there is a mechanism built into humans that allows us to experience first hand.  Much obfuscation around the subject, but I believe it to be the act of meditation.  It's the hardest science in creation imo.  It requires everything of us.  I believe past saints were certified laboratory technicians.  But before we can say an experiment doesn't work, we must perform it as described (same as in material sciences - not directing this at you, just a general rant).

 

I think you do get what I mean, your posts seem to be very open-minded.

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4 hours ago, Mr H said:

The first part doesn't answer the question who or what am I? 

 

I think experience is the best barometer of truth, it's opposite being belief, which is built on sand.

 

From my investigation, it is not possible to say who I am, or what I am, if we are to be precise. Although we can do our best with words at our disposal. The best is to find out what you are not, which is quite straightforward.

 

After just a few minutes it's easily determinable that I is not human, is not thought, physical or emotion based. These things just come and go, I always remain...

 

Even when we take it to the deepest levels we are still restricted by the senses a d faculties we have. Another being with more may have better explanation. So it is said it's best, if you want to remain as I, the highest thing you can do is remain silent. Which is the non dual meditation 

That's not the aim of non duality meditation.

 

If all you're seeking is to.exist in a state of non doing, non creating and non existence then you are nothing and cease to be. Is that your aim?

 

It's funny the way people are obsessed with the question who is the "I" when all they are really doing to looking for another label, category or name to give themselves.

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11 minutes ago, Phil26 said:

That's not the aim of non duality meditation.

 

If all you're seeking is to.exist in a state of non doing, non creating and non existence then you are nothing and cease to be. Is that your aim?

 

It's funny the way people are obsessed with the question who is the "I" when all they are really doing to looking for another label, category or name to give themselves.

No. I did not mention that. Personally I enjoy creating and existing.

 

As mentioned in earlier post, there is no label for I in my experience that is 100% accurate. Only what I am not.

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