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Don't know if this will help anyone, but here goes. If I'm.in conversation with what I would think of as non freedom folks I often find that they want alternative info.

So I would just drop a few seeds and see what the reaction might be. If they are intrigued at all I will then give them a link or two to go look for themselves. I also make it clear im open to chat privately anytime. This takes away the fear of ridicule etc and helps them come out of the closet.

All people live with a lot of embedded fear, even so called freedom types. Sometimes we have to help them gently let go.

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I’ve never fitted in, since i was a kid.


The working class heroes think I’m a posh twat, and the posh twats think I’m a grubby loser.

I was somewhere between the cool kids and the geeks at school, like the Inbetweeners. 

 

It’s not all bad though, I take solace in my individuality, but it is extremely lonely at times. 
 

I used to go out a lot and socialise in my teens and twenties and even then it felt like a massive strain on my soul, pretending to be a hard man when hanging out with the working class folks, putting on that twinge of a London accent, then pretending to be snobby on the up and up, putting on the queens English when hanging out with the posh twat crowd. The music and tv industry was a a brief bit of social respite, but they all turned out to be twisted horrible cunts in the end.

By that time I’d lost all my so called ‘friends’ from school as they were just as bad. I was a sycophant for putting up with their Full Metal Jacket style  bullying anyway. 


The shit people talk about is absolute banal, spirit crushing dross, and I think a night out at a pub with a few office drones would leave you wanting to emigrate. 

it’s no coincidence we’re all here, saying the same things. 
 

Never, ever worry about fitting in. Especially in this society. 
 

We should see our eccentricity as a badge of honour. 

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On 1/7/2024 at 3:17 PM, Mr H said:

So, I spent past year in either isolation or conscious communities. It was pretty great but had to return to UK for a bit....

 

I made a first attempt at socialising with normal people - people not into conspiracy or spiritual stuff...

 

And I just found I don't fit in at all...

 

Like what they were talking about went in one ear and out the other. The words meant nothing to me at all....they could have been speaking Chinese. I was left nodding and grinning.....

 

Kinda felt weird to be honest.... perhaps I'm so far gone these days, I'm not sure I can live with normal people...feels like I don't belong at all...

 

Does anyone else feel or experience this?

 

 

 

What if some people are here but they entered from outside the simulation???

 

They chose to enter here for some reason at this specific time in world history.

 

Like a time traveller who enters into the year 3000, he is only there as a guest.

 

Some people are plugged into this matrix via a second body via a VR headset - similar to The Matrix.

But some people are not plugged in. They have no second body. They are only here and nowhere else. Some would say they have no soul.

 

 

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2 hours ago, 78ast78dgyad said:

 

What if some people are here but they entered from outside the simulation???

 

They chose to enter here for some reason at this specific time in world history.

 

Like a time traveller who enters into the year 3000, he is only there as a guest.

 

Some people are plugged into this matrix via a second body via a VR headset - similar to The Matrix.

But some people are not plugged in. They have no second body. They are only here and nowhere else. Some would say they have no soul.

 

 

Yeah I'm not sure it's like that per se, but it's a good way to describe how it seems..

 

And if we do take your post literally, then it could also be the case that it is us who are the ones who are not meant to be here and we're encroaching on their turf...who knows 

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53 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Yeah I'm not sure it's like that per se, but it's a good way to describe how it seems..

 

And if we do take your post literally, then it could also be the case that it is us who are the ones who are not meant to be here and we're encroaching on their turf...who knows 

 

The multiverse is a huge theme in media these days

 

What if people on different wavelengths are getting stuck in the wrong universes and become out of sync?

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9 minutes ago, 78ast78dgyad said:

 

The multiverse is a huge theme in media these days

 

What if people on different wavelengths are getting stuck in the wrong universes and become out of sync?

It's not my personal experience but anything is possible in this crazy experience of world😅

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I personally keep a low profile since mid twenties. I used to argue at any cost and would voice my opinion even if it made me seem like a nutter. 

 

These days i live contently one foot in the matrix and the other foot out so detached. I'm quite lonely these days, not to be recommended. I've always had friends not that I was ever Mr popular by a long stretch. 

 

The trick is not to try and wake people up.  You have to for your sanity. You'll still be alive tomorrow, and probably next year. I'm going to start finding people with similar interests to me I think when you move away from social circles who don't hold the same values as you you will naturally attract new people anyway. 

 

There's tons of sentient people. For me it's the ones who are sentiment that are like naturally. for instance a co worker today who didn't take the vaccine it made me pretty happy. But they might not nessesarily be well read or know the ins and out of the agenda but they are ironically enough normal. Unlike the normies. 

 

Don't let them get you down. Observe the madness man.

 

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23 hours ago, Fluke said:

I personally keep a low profile since mid twenties. I used to argue at any cost and would voice my opinion even if it made me seem like a nutter. 

 

These days i live contently one foot in the matrix and the other foot out so detached. I'm quite lonely these days, not to be recommended. I've always had friends not that I was ever Mr popular by a long stretch. 

 

The trick is not to try and wake people up.  You have to for your sanity. You'll still be alive tomorrow, and probably next year. I'm going to start finding people with similar interests to me I think when you move away from social circles who don't hold the same values as you you will naturally attract new people anyway. 

 

There's tons of sentient people. For me it's the ones who are sentiment that are like naturally. for instance a co worker today who didn't take the vaccine it made me pretty happy. But they might not nessesarily be well read or know the ins and out of the agenda but they are ironically enough normal. Unlike the normies. 

 

Don't let them get you down. Observe the madness man.

 

Yes, and being able to disengage from the negative fear mongers of both camps is a key factor.

Choose your friends based on if they feel right to you, not on just having some combined beliefs, if possible.

A way forward is to start your own meet ups locally. Eventually the right people will be attracted to you, but they won't turn up without effort. Loneliness is a choice just as much as everything else.

 

I don't like all the folks I meet in freedom circles but once 8n a while a real gem comes along that makes it all worthwhile.

This lady is trying to unite people worlwide: http://the-pha.org

Peoples Health Alliance

(in conversation with Pam Gregory below)

 

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23 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

 Loneliness is a choice just as much as everything else.

 

 

Sometimes, for normally functioning humans. But You'd be surprised the amount of folks who have mental health, social anxiety issues, especially after lockdowns..

 

But great idea about creating meetup. Could do one for sure....

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5 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Sometimes, for normally functioning humans. But You'd be surprised the amount of folks who have mental health, social anxiety issues, especially after lockdowns..

 

But great idea about creating meetup. Could do one for sure....

Yes I understand your point, however I still feel its a choice to remain in fear. The problem really is that folks are scared to let go of their programming.

I've benefitted hugely by being around folks who at least are on a similar wavelength, if not fully in line. 

We have to have the courage to let go of the fear of loss, which is the root of it all programming wise.

That's whee true freedom lies, freedom of self from the chains of fear. 

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Love it....

 

To save me liking every Or? near every? post in this thread, well, I'll just say this is the best thread in a too long of a time.... It's honest and it gets straight to the heart of why impositions or oddity or quirks of folks in the truth community or anything perceived not normal is either frowned upon or ridiculed (by ignorant misunderstanding people as some portion of the population can be summed up).... THAT says more about them, but in turn if we have an urge naturally enough to say <Something?> by any instinct which may cause us having to defend ourselves, well okay, it's natural enough to want to influence and/or defend, and so the afore-mentioned distortion between norms or non-norms is not to say when the time is right that we shouldn't slip some subtle bassline aka apple cart wobblers on the crowd prepossessed, and likewise for that reason of how those in "normal land" can get deluded in their belief in what is SUPPOSED to bring them happiness (in a way) about feeling they are happy, which is fair enough TO FEEL this or that, but whilst that maybe so in some sense, the matter of fact supporting the happiness is often a house of cards belonging mostly (arguably) to narrow minded people.

BUT PS, depending on how responsive or not others maybe in light of alternativeness, I don't think it's always wise to scorch or scold other peoples happiness, solely to bring them into the space of truth (although it would seem tempting to pour cold ice on them), so instead maybe there is a half and half approach and to add as RobinJ suggests. it's therefore better to let them down gently.. Many won't give a hoot about us, but that's because they are living THE COLLECTIVE DELUSION, and are often irrational people, pleasure seekers, or I don't know what, with no care for anything else... However happiness is still important for us all I would say... How we arrive at happiness (or degrees of) is still and always will be "key" though to anyone's vitality of being obviously. The Truth Community included. Happiness in facilitating exposure of lies, is a form of happiness for one.

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On 1/7/2024 at 7:59 PM, Mr H said:

I think if went to a shrink and told them humans don't exist, the world is an illusion, I am god , the illusiory world is run by an evil, satanic worshipping, paedophilic death cult....they may conclude I'm a bit off my rocker....

 

I commend thee are ready to go back out into society,😁 but with extreme caution, for your own sanity... Or medium caution, if tempering the fear a little bit, as RobinJ has been ably talking about.  [De]Programming and letting it loose, before being curative leaves first of all something of an psychological avalanche for most "normies" let's bear in mind, and isn't an instant fix, apart from the shock value, and that is more likely to arouse fear revealing something horrific to someone. You know this, we all do, but I'm just prepping on a few things, and where to repeat my thought *fear* effects us no less sometimes too, not just "normies". 

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By dropping seeds into a conversation you find out quickly if they have any depth or not. If not then I don't waste too much time on them, they are "surface" people and its not trying to change them.

However, if you see a spark of understanding then you know you have someone worth working with to help them move forward. Some just need an outlet or a start point to break through all the programmed thought processing.

For me personally I know its not my purpose to wake people up by constantly banging the drum.

Part of my purpose is to help those who are invested in knowing who they are on a deeper level.

By sharing our weird experiences we realise we are not alone, or going mad, we are simply joining the collective to rise up together as one to rid this place of darkness.

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On 1/10/2024 at 3:50 PM, Mr H said:

Yeah I'm not sure it's like that per se, but it's a good way to describe how it seems..

 

And if we do take your post literally, then it could also be the case that it is us who are the ones who are not meant to be here and we're encroaching on their turf...who knows 

 

Why would you choose to enter a world of psychopaths and NPC's?

 

 

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1 hour ago, 78ast78dgyad said:

 

 

Why would you choose to enter a world of psychopaths and NPC's?

 

 

 

It wasn't advertised in those terms then...(even if it was, I wouldn't and couldn't have known what they meant, they don't exist or have meaning in Reality).

 

 

3 Dog Night:

"Momma Told Me not to Come"("...that ain't the way to have fun, ,son!...".)...I guess I had to see for myself...

 

 

 

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Only NPC's accept the lie. The entire human existence is a lie. Religions, good and evil, world order are all fake. From the first second to the last, a consciousness experiences an imposed fake existence. And that on the most primitive level. And most of them like it. That means it has a consequence. 

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Let's not act like 90% of conspiracy theorists aren't just a different flavour of NPC. Very few conspiracy theorists are willing to look into both sides of certain issues, especially geoplitically. Conspiracy theorists also have massive discernment issues, and often fall for all kinds of well poisoning bullshit. This is why I'm too embarrased to identify as a conspiracy theorist these days, and would rather just call myself an intelligence gatherer. How is the turbo contrarian any different from the average lemming on the street?

 

That's not a dig at conspiracy theorists as I was one for years, but I'm just saying that there are layers of deception.

 

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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Let's not act like 90% of conspiracy theorists aren't just a different flavour of NPC. Very few conspiracy theorists are willing to look into both sides of certain issues, especially geoplitically.

Yeah, but.....it's ALL F-ing Fake.

 

And none of it will matter in The End.

 

It really all comes down to when you, or I, or anyone else decides....okay, that's enough....Game Over.

It's that simple.

 

 

Everything else is just playing the game. 

 

Nothing "wrong" with playing The Game...but...The Game is fixed...in favor of "evil".

 

 

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6 minutes ago, novymir said:

Yeah, but.....it's ALL F-ing Fake.

 

And none of it will matter in The End.

 

It really all comes down to when you, or I, or anyone else decides....okay, that's enough....Game Over.

It's that simple.

 

 

Everything else is just playing the game. 

 

Nothing "wrong" with playing The Game...but...The Game is fixed...in favor of "evil".

 

 

 

I don't quite agee. A lot is fake, sure, but there are things that are very real for me, like the ability to love for example.

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9 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I don't quite agee. A lot is fake, sure, but there are things that are very real for me, like the ability to love for example.

Well, you're doing your thing, and it's not for me to argue for or against it. I just offer what might be an uncommon perspective useful to someone.

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Origin said:

Only NPC's accept the lie. The entire human existence is a lie. Religions, good and evil, world order are all fake. From the first second to the last, a consciousness experiences an imposed fake existence. And that on the most primitive level. And most of them like it. That means it has a consequence. 

That is simply not true. I've met plenty of people who were duped by the fear process of vax or religion and later woke up when all the deaths started appearing or when other information came to light.

Breaking through fear and programming is a process, easier for some than others. If we slap a label on someone how does that make us better or more enlightened souls? To me, that attitude means we still have work to do both on ourselves or to help others see the truth etc.

 

Its not fair to tar everyone with a label of NPC or normies etc. Just because they don't have your particular life experience or belief system does not mean its them or us.

 

Some have more to get over than others. Some accept rules easier than others. Some really like the system and trust too much perhaps.

We are not judge, jury and executioner. 

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20 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Yes I understand your point, however I still feel its a choice to remain in fear. The problem really is that folks are scared to let go of their programming.

I've benefitted hugely by being around folks who at least are on a similar wavelength, if not fully in line. 

We have to have the courage to let go of the fear of loss, which is the root of it all programming wise.

That's whee true freedom lies, freedom of self from the chains of fear. 

 

i think that is quite a feminine perspective from modern, comfortable societies.

 

A more masculine perspective is that there is a hungry bear in the woods and sometimes that bear comes calling. There has always been a hungry bear in the woods. In the distant past it was an actual hungry bear. Then it was dangerous people looking to kill, steal, rape and enslave. Nowadays the hungry bear is the state and the rapacious corporations owned by the cabal.

 

Some people got too comfortable and complacent so when the hungry bear came calling, in the guise of the state looking to inject people with covid bioweapons, some people did not recognise the threat.

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11 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Some have more to get over than others. Some accept rules easier than others. Some really like the system and trust too much perhaps.

We are not judge, jury and executioner. 

 

i don't think you should even use the words 'judge, jury and executioner' in the same sentence as 'truthers' because none of us acted in that way.....that's hyperbole

 

the people you should be levelling that accusation at are the state and the corporations who conspired to jab the public with covid bioweapons or a midazolam/morphine cocktail

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