Replacement Migration

[Macnamara]

6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

What I said was this particular report does not suggest an agenda.

 

after the cabal release that report telling us we MUST take in migrants they hit the native population with a covid bioweapon that is killing people in excess to the tune of tens of thousands per year whilst also killing children in the womb so that young women cannot bring a child to term

 

they call the report 'replacement' because that is EXACTLY what they are doing

 

they want a world government and to achieve that they must destroy nation states. If you replace the people in a nation who have a sense of national identity then there is no one left there that will defend that nation and it can then simply be absorbed into the cabals global project

 

they saw how the demographics stacked up in the brexit vote and now they are tipping it away from us by killing off the old brexit voters and replacing them with rootless migrants who don't care what they are in as long as they are given free handouts

[Mr H]

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the report is bunk in the same way that the climate agenda is bunk, the covid agenda is bunk, industrial waste product fluoride being put into the drinking water to help your teeth is bunk etc etc etc

 

they sell people BS all day every day but it doesn't mean we have to swallow it

 

a smaller population is not a bad thing. what's a bad thing is cramming more and more people onto a small island that only produces half of its own food

The UK is not populated at all. It's just concentrated. I also don't know if the UK has a future demographic problem so no idea if it's needed in UK.

 

The only reason why we have enjoyed good times since ww2 is because of the baby boom generation. Without the increased population we would not be enjoying the luxuries we have today. When it comes to economic demographic is the most important factor if you want a thriving economy. So you need to get the numbers from somewhere.... 

[Mr H]

If you don't want people from other countries in then we have to start having more babies ourselves..... that's the other solution of course. But no one is up for doing that so we are where we are...

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, Mr H said:

The UK is not populated at all. It's just concentrated. I also don't know if the UK has a future demographic problem so no idea if it's needed in UK.

 

britain is the most densely populated place in europe bar malta. Much of britain is moorland, marsh, hill, forest and dale and the reality is that most people are not going to live on that. Also we need land to farm and can't concrete over it all. As i said we only produce half of our food as it is

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, Mr H said:

The only reason why we have enjoyed good times since ww2 is because of the baby boom generation. Without the increased population we would not be enjoying the luxuries we have today. When it comes to economic demographic is the most important factor if you want a thriving economy. So you need to get the numbers from somewhere.... 

 

you have got that arse about face! the reason baby boomers had jobs for life, small class sizes, low waiting times for hospitals, decent wages, affordable houses etc was because they weren't swamped by people!

 

We also have to consider the banks 'boom and bust cycles' which are really orchestrated through the cabal's control of the money supply.

 

They make money plentiful and people feel confident about borrowing. When they contract the money supply people lose their homes and businesses

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, Mr H said:

If you don't want people from other countries in then we have to start having more babies ourselves..... that's the other solution of course. But no one is up for doing that so we are where we are...

 

no we don't!

 

we do not need to keep cramming more and more people into this space in order to live.

 

think about the inherent contradiction in what the cabal are doing. On one hand bill gates tells us there are too many people in the world and that CO2 production is going to kill the planet and kill us and yet on the other hand they got national leaders to sign the UN migration compact which rules that anyone moving to another country is not an 'illegal alien' thereby legalising mass migration. But if people consume more in the west and produce more CO2 then why would the elites flood more people into the west?

 

It's because it isn't about boosting the economy or cutting CO2. It's about re-engineering the world into a global mix of rootless people with no sense of their own past or identity who are all fussing and fighting so that big brother can come in and claim that they only way peace can be installed is for everyone to live under conditions x, y and z: problem, reaction, solution

 

and that's how they are making us all slaves in a global, technocratic plantation

[Campion]

6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

If you don't want people from other countries in then we have to start having more babies ourselves..... that's the other solution of course. But no one is up for doing that so we are where we are...

 

Why do we need the economy to grow if the population is shrinking? If they are both shrinking at the same rate then the income per person would stay constant wouldn't it? 

 

There may be an issue about an increasing proportion of pensioners relative to working age people, but on the other hand we're often told how technology such as AI will replace a lot of jobs. So workers can be redeployed to jobs requiring people. 

[bamboozooka]

biden openly challenged the 2nd amendment

 

Biden mocks gun owners, says they’ll need F-16s to take on government

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2023/06/biden-mocks-gun-owners-says-theyll-need-f-16s-to-take-on-government/

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

Why is sewage released into rivers and the sea?

2 October 2023

Three of the biggest water companies are suspected of discharging sewage into the UK's waterways on dry days in breach of their permits, according to a BBC investigation.

England's Environment Agency is carrying out its own criminal investigation into potentially illegal discharges by all water companies.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-62631320

 

^ do you know why this is happening? This is why it's happening: MASS immigration.

 

There are more people creating more piss and shit and we don't have the infrastructure to process it all so they flush it into the rivers and what do you see if you go to third world countries? you see open sewers and that's what they are turning our waterways and coasts into. There are wild swimmers getting sick from the sewage in our waterways

Scots wild swimmers take 'unwell' with mystery illness after dip in river

Four members of the Fife Wild Swimmers group started to become unwell after being exposed to the water over a period of three and a half hours

• Alastair McNeill

• 04:30, 28 JUL 2023

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-wild-swimmers-unwell-after-30571763

 

[Macnamara]

only people who hate themselves believe that they need to be replaced. Have some self respect! Freedom didn't fall out of the sky. Our ancestors bled to make it possible which is why everyone wants to live here.

 

MEP Christine Anderson: How Europe Became a Society ‘That Hates Itself’
By Patricia Harrity on December 31, 2023

“We’re so overrun, and it’s almost like we have these parallel societies, on top of all of that we are being taught to hate our own way of life, to hate our culture. Why would anyone want to integrate into a society that hates itself?” asks Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Christine Anderson in a recent interview with The Epoch Times’s Jan Jekielek, host of American Thought Leaders.

Christine Anderson, also believes the hope for Western democracies lies in Eastern Europe and America, where the people have learned to fight for their freedom. “They have learned to defend it and they have an understanding that it needs defending on an everyday basis,” she says.

“The Western European spoiled brats—it’s kind of like freedom/democracy fell out of the blue sky on one fine day and boom, there it was.” 

https://expose-news.com/2023/12/31/mep-christine-anderson-how-europe-became-a-society-that-hates-itself/

Edited January 1, 2024 by Macnamara

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

https://archive.is/qKXLb

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

https://archive.is/qKXLb

 

the bankers do not produce anything real therefore they are not part of the REAL economy of production and consumption. All they do is extract interest from the real economy, hence they are a parasite....a parasite that has taken over the brain of the host

Edited January 1, 2024 by Macnamara

[Mr H]

50 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Why do we need the economy to grow if the population is shrinking? If they are both shrinking at the same rate then the income per person would stay constant wouldn't it? 

 

There may be an issue about an increasing proportion of pensioners relative to working age people, but on the other hand we're often told how technology such as AI will replace a lot of jobs. So workers can be redeployed to jobs requiring people. 

If you want to be more prosperous than before you need growth.

 

The main thing economists wish to avoid is deflation. That is cancer to economists. It results in depressions.

 

Low velocity of money like we experience today and an economy that is in the movement of deflating, equals economic Armageddon.

[Mr H]

1 minute ago, Mr H said:

If you want to be more prosperous than before you need growth.

 

The main thing economists wish to avoid is deflation. That is cancer to economists. It results in depressions.

 

Low velocity of money like we experience today and an economy that is in the movement of deflating, equals economic Armageddon.

It's one of the reasons they keep printing money. Because there isn't any real growth and velocity of money is at lowest point in history...

 

But you can only print for so long...

[Mr H]

1 hour ago, Campion said:

 

Why do we need the economy to grow if the population is shrinking? If they are both shrinking at the same rate then the income per person would stay constant wouldn't it? 

 

There may be an issue about an increasing proportion of pensioners relative to working age people, but on the other hand we're often told how technology such as AI will replace a lot of jobs. So workers can be redeployed to jobs requiring people. 

To be more precise the problem is not in absolute numbers it's in demographic shifts.

 

We had the largest expansion in population history with the baby boomers which created historical wealth.

 

Now these are retiring. This causes problems if the next generation population is significantly lower than the baby boom population which it is. They cannot be supported unless you have the people to support them or you invent a fake virus to bump them off and lower the burden

 

And economy will not gently go.down in proportion. Once deflation starts it then accelerates and gets out of control....momentum occurs

Edited January 1, 2024 by Mr H

[EnigmaticWorld]

Regarding the UN:

 

On 9/20/2023 at 9:26 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres adopts Dugin's "multipolar" descriptor as he blames West for unipolar imperialism

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-12534181/UN-chief-says-people-looking-leaders-action-way-current-global-mess.html

 

On 4/23/2023 at 9:55 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

Socialist-in-Chief: a History of the UN Secretaries General
https://thenewamerican.com/socialist-in-chief-a-history-of-the-un-secretaries-general/

 

 

 

On 7/14/2023 at 5:15 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

A deleted UN Geneva tweet:

 

 

Source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/un-experts-greatly-troubled-over-labeling-antifa-as-domestic-terrorists

 

"The CCP exerts its influence in various ways, including: adopting its state capitalism economic model and supporting similar models for the world; promoting globalist policies that appeal to social justice issues and environmentalism; and nudging closer to globalist organizations that promote these agendas, such as the World Economic Forum (WEF) and the United Nations (UN)."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/china/the-ccps-role-in-the-globalist-agenda-trevor-loudon-5394103

 

On 7/16/2023 at 9:59 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

A lovely message for humanity from Fabian socialist, General António Guterres. /s

 

 

Edited January 1, 2024 by EnigmaticWorld

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

One thing they’ve overlooked is their reliance on their abilities to have a hold over the human mind and body through their technology, magic and schemes.

 

Do they think they can permanently keep thousands of years of struggle, blood, sweat, life and death cooped up in a concrete room, eating bugs, with little flashing gadgets to keep them satisfied whilst hundreds of years of strife go unnoticed and unremembered. 
 

Even tranquillised tigers can put up a fight. 
 

Our fighting spirit has been suppressed by the estrogen in the water and the woke emasculation of traditional relationships. 

Our offspring can see our useless reactions/acceptance/defiance to this brave new world, and they hate us for being so indecisive, so beige and non plussed. We can’t make a decision so they’ve already made it. 

Which is why the NWO will come from the kids. They WANT to rule and be ruled in a totalitarian dystopian nightmare. 
A few key 10-12 yr olds will be putting vast swathes of the population to death in the next twenty years.

The WEF junior leadership program will make its way to primary schools soon. Just watch 

[EnigmaticWorld]

4 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

A few key 10-12 yr olds will be putting vast swathes of the population to death in the next twenty years.

The WEF junior leadership program will make its way to primary schools soon. Just watch 

 

It wouldn't surprise me.

 

On 11/13/2020 at 5:50 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

People will probably be marched to the gulag by their own children in future, mark my words.

 

 

 

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

It wouldn't surprise me.

 

 

 

 

This is spot on, I’m also going off what all the great dystopian authors mention in their work 

 

So Mao reckons the kids are ‘the least conservative in their thinking’ ? 
 

Well they’ve had less life experience so aren’t aware of certain values adults rely on, and as conservatism is an emotion of boredom but also survival and longevity, they’re less likely to see this in their decision making, leading to- extremist thinking, the commissioning of violent/genocidal acts etc for maintaining their lifestyle, material comfort and also survival. Their families reputations, their social standing-wealth. 
 

If your friend at the Smart Community Education Centre is bragging about how his dad doesn’t pay his Tele-Screen license, and is also selling illegal real meat to other community members then your obviously going to inform the Smart Community Mentor so you can claim extra GloboCitizenTM carbon tax credits off your allowed yearly limit, you know, as your helping the world recover from climate change and all that, everyone does it, no shame in it. We’re saving the world 

[Skotfreezy]

3 hours ago, Mr H said:

If you don't want people from other countries in then we have to start having more babies ourselves..... that's the other solution of course. But no one is up for doing that so we are where we are...

I agree but with sperm counts going down because of vaccines, poisons, etc. and cost of living increasing and national debt due to the crap policies people cant afford to have kids, which is sad. so they migrate people from poor 3rd world countries to fill the void knowing they will conform to their NWO rules and be shoved into 15minute cities when those start getting built. Question though.. say an illegal got a job with the police force and came to you and started telling you what to do, what would you do?

[Campion]

14 hours ago, Mr H said:

If you want to be more prosperous than before you need growth.

 

The main thing economists wish to avoid is deflation. That is cancer to economists. It results in depressions.

 

Low velocity of money like we experience today and an economy that is in the movement of deflating, equals economic Armageddon. 

 

I think it's a bit more nuanced. What we want is a better life for each person, which means relative growth per head of population and few people suggest we need a growing population for evermore. Permanent increase in population and use of natural resources must eventually reach a crisis point. Deflation in a general sense might be bad, but is fine if backed up with technological advance. Eg the cost per unit of computer power and memory has collapsed since they were invented in the 1940s but that has only led to more growth and innovation. Or would it be so bad if we solved the problem of cheap renewable energy with nuclear fusion or something, to reduce our use of fossil fuel and permit further technology with cheap cars? 

 

"Low velocity of money like we experience today and an economy that is in the movement of deflating, equals economic Armageddon. "

But this is after 75 years of mass immigration so at what point do we notice that it isn't having the effect we were promised? 

 

14 hours ago, Mr H said:

To be more precise the problem is not in absolute numbers it's in demographic shifts.

 

We had the largest expansion in population history with the baby boomers which created historical wealth.

 

Now these are retiring. This causes problems if the next generation population is significantly lower than the baby boom population which it is. They cannot be supported unless you have the people to support them or you invent a fake virus to bump them off and lower the burden

 

And economy will not gently go.down in proportion. Once deflation starts it then accelerates and gets out of control....momentum occurs

 

Again there are nuances we need to understand here. If population growth was the only factor then there would be a clear correlation between population growth and economic growth. Sub-Saharan Africa should be booming and have well paid jobs for its people in a virtuous circle of growth. But if you look at fertility vs wealth it's the other way round (2.1 fertility is the magic number for replacement level). Yet that's where we are being colonised from. 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility

 

Yes in hindsight the boomer generation bought into the official narrative of putting career above family, yet as a nation we haven't even tried talking about how to recover our fertility, let alone begun any actual attempt. No instead our leaders went straight for mass immigration at replacement levels, and suppressed a political debate about the whole subject. Why would they do that? 

 

Edited January 2, 2024 by Campion

[Macnamara]

 

[Macnamara]

5 hours ago, Campion said:

'Low velocity of money like we experience today and an economy that is in the movement of deflating, equals economic Armageddon. "

But this is after 75 years of mass immigration so at what point do we notice that it isn't having the effect we were promised?

 

marxists always say that the reason things haven't got better is because we simply haven't done ENOUGH of what they want. They will argue that everything has got worse over those 75 years isn't BECAUSE of the MASS immigration during that time but because we haven't had enough of it!

 

they will tell you that the reason the covid jab hasn't worked is because you haven't had enough of them!

[Macnamara]

19 hours ago, Mr H said:

It's one of the reasons they keep printing money.

 

no they introduced 'quantitative easing' to bail out their corporate socialist banks after 2008 whilst telling the rest of us that we would now have to face 'austerity'

 

the politicians chose to bailout wallstreet instead of mainstreet thereby showing who they really work for

[Mr H]

21 hours ago, Campion said:

 

I think it's a bit more nuanced. What we want is a better life for each person, which means relative growth per head of population and few people suggest we need a growing population for evermore. Permanent increase in population and use of natural resources must eventually reach a crisis point. Deflation in a general sense might be bad, but is fine if backed up with technological advance. Eg the cost per unit of computer power and memory has collapsed since they were invented in the 1940s but that has only led to more growth and innovation. Or would it be so bad if we solved the problem of cheap renewable energy with nuclear fusion or something, to reduce our use of fossil fuel and permit further technology with cheap cars? 

 

"Low velocity of money like we experience today and an economy that is in the movement of deflating, equals economic Armageddon. "

But this is after 75 years of mass immigration so at what point do we notice that it isn't having the effect we were promised? 

 

 

Again there are nuances we need to understand here. If population growth was the only factor then there would be a clear correlation between population growth and economic growth. Sub-Saharan Africa should be booming and have well paid jobs for its people in a virtuous circle of growth. But if you look at fertility vs wealth it's the other way round (2.1 fertility is the magic number for replacement level). Yet that's where we are being colonised from. 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_and_fertility

 

Yes in hindsight the boomer generation bought into the official narrative of putting career above family, yet as a nation we haven't even tried talking about how to recover our fertility, let alone begun any actual attempt. No instead our leaders went straight for mass immigration at replacement levels, and suppressed a political debate about the whole subject. Why would they do that? 

 

I think my points completely misunderstood here and would take a long time to repackage to an audience that is hell bent on one particular answer...

 

But to briefly summzie before I leave you guys to it.

 

I'm not linking any of these things to one thing immigration.

 

 

 

The OP suggested this report is evidence for some kind of nefarious plan to bring in immigrants..

 

What I am saying is, anyone who works in economics and has to do an analysis like in OP would come to the same conclusion.

 

We're fkd soon demographically and something needs to be done. Unless you don't mind maybe a decade of depression whilst we deflate? Maybe you don't mind that but the economists work for the government. And which government is gonna get voted in with that kind of economic policy? NONE. So even though it is a solution, do nothing it's not a realistic one. Not going to happen. So proposing to solve this with immigration as one solution is a logical suggestion whether you like it or not.