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On 12/16/2023 at 3:25 PM, Mr H said:

Just to add in central and south American tradition the snake is actually good. It represents healing. Not always depicted as bad across the world 

Numbers 21

 

And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.

And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

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On 12/16/2023 at 8:48 AM, Oakum said:

Ge 3:1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

This so-called serpent could very well be those they call Reptilians today (Demons). A walking talking reptile entity that lived on the Earth created by God before Man and woman was ever created.

Ge 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree, which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

Ge 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Ge 3:4 ¶ And the LORD God said unto the serpent, because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Took away this serpent arms and legs?

Maybe it had wings.

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On 12/23/2023 at 12:08 PM, pi3141 said:

 

 

Because its the Christians that have been in control and influencing our society of 2000 years.

 

Its the Church that ordain the King and Royalty, the Church supported the Serf system.


Our Royal family is the head of Freemasons that you despise and they were consecrated to their Royal position by the Church.

 

The Church influenced our society when we was ruled by Kings and then they influenced our democracy when we supposedly swapped but still the Church coronate, which is to legitimize and accept the Royal position.

 

Its the Church that introduced 'Ploughing Taxes' to take money from the poor.

 

Its the church that has held back scientific advancement.

 

its the Church that instigated our education system and its the Church that has profited the most from our system.

 

Its the Christians, who the Church formed and taught, that make our Laws.

 

Christians who legislated to be born homosexual was a crime worthy of prison. Whlie the Church banned Gay marriage and hence supported the position.

 

Its the Church that taught Women are inferior.

 

Its the Church that blesses our soldiers when they wage an illegal war.

 

Its the Christian soldiers that do the killing in the name of the King legitimized by the Church.

 

Its the Christians that although taught 'Judge not' stand on the side of streets telling innocent folk they'll go to hell for being Gay or having an abortion.

 

Its the Christians that desecrate their own teachings with dodgy financial dealings and covering up paedophilia and sexual abuse.

 

Its the Church that murdered thousands of Orphans held in their institutions rather than feed them.

 

Its the Church that burnt infants for being possessed.

 

Its the Church that has the greatest influence on the population throughout centuries.

 

And the many other crimes they have supported against the poor I can't think of off the top of my head.

 

Its the Christian Church.

 

You say its the Jews, well where does the Christian teachings come from? The Jews.

 

Many Evangelical Christians accept the Jews as Gods chosen people because of the fertility nonsense and the importance of 'seeds' in our supposed creation. The seed of Abraham.

 

So if you think the Jews are the problem, then its reasonable to assume it is also the Christians, as they took the same God and teachings of the Jews.

 

But its pretty obvious to me its the Christian Church - first Rome and then our own Church of England that has had the greatest, by far, influence on our Western society - not the Jews.

 

The history books are full of the involvement of the Church in formulating our society, by advising Kings and then having an influence in Parliament, the coronation grew out of the church seeking more influence in society's, and by supporting wars and inquisitions and land appropriation form indigenous peoples because they were Pagan's, so the Christians have God's right to take whatever treasures and land they choose and kill whoever gets in their way.

 

It is the teachings of the Christian church that has done all these things, and more, for 2000 years, right out in the open.

 

I remember seeing a chaplain on TV blessing the troops before we illegally invaded Iraq.

 

I've seen photo's of the Catholic church blessing the Nazi troops and shaking hands with Hitler.

 

Reminds me - the Rat Lines, after the war when the church knew what Germans were doing to the Jewish people they still helped them escape - or was that the Jews that helped high level Nazi's escape, and was it the Jews who took Nazi's to America?

 

Nope, it was the Christians that did all that.

 

 

 

well its a key thing that you switched from speaking about 'christianity' to speaking about 'the church' because the church is an institution that can be taken over and controlled in the same way that a parliament or a committee is, but you seem to be vehemently against christianity as a whole rather than seeing that the church is clearly under the control of the freemasons

King Charles plans to knight Archbishop Justin Welby for 'personal service'

The Archbishop of Canterbury is set to be knighted by King Charles.

By Lauren Welch, Royal Reporter based in London
21:45, Fri, Dec 22, 2023 | UPDATED: 23:01, Fri, Dec 22, 2023

 

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On 12/23/2023 at 12:08 PM, pi3141 said:

The history books are full of the involvement of the Church in formulating our society, by advising Kings and then having an influence in Parliament, the coronation grew out of the church seeking more influence in society's, and by supporting wars and inquisitions and land appropriation form indigenous peoples because they were Pagan's, so the Christians have God's right to take whatever treasures and land they choose and kill whoever gets in their way.

 

well that's a very simplistic view of history because there were a number of competing ideas as europe was threatened a number of times for example by attila the hun, the mongols and rampaging islam

 

christianity, arguably galvanised europe into defence against other aggressive groups so why does THEIR aggression get a free pass?

 

then there were the jewish communities within christendom that had within them the heretical sect of sabbateans who sought the corruption of and sabotage of europe from within. Those sabbateans created communism and central banking and created the wars of the 20th century which killed untold millions

 

why do you give them a free pass? why do you only attack the thing that those groups were so intent on destroying?

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On 12/28/2023 at 10:49 PM, Macnamara said:

why do you give them a free pass? why do you only attack the thing that those groups were so intent on destroying?

 

They do not get a free pass. I think Islam is a disgraceful religion and have said so before.

 

The Church fathers taught the doctrine of the 'Inferior Origin of Women' by the Protestant Reformation Martin Luther was describing women as 'a Temple built over a sewer' and as for Islam, well f*ck me they really run with that one, to the point that women are basically chattels whom they can put in a ditch and stone to death if they find them speaking to a man or trying to get an education and they use scripture rooted in Christianity and Judaism to justify it. Disgraceful, God is appalled. 

 

The fact is I grew up in a loosely Christian household, I went to Christian Church, church Camp, church Holidays, Sunday School, Church Youth Club, I learnt about Christianity in religious education in school. I've spent the last 8 years studying Christianity and its origins.

 

I do not know AS MUCH about Islam or Judaism to be able to comment with any degree of sincerity. I've read the Qua ran and bits of the Torah, and I know enough to see the Pagan influences in them, Jewish Kapparot springs to mind, but my knowledge is in Christianity and the history of the West, not Israel, Judaism or Islam.

 

I stick to what I know about.

 

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Here's an example, look at this vile ideology at work. And, like the Christians they use extreme religious ideology to justify it.

 

How Hamas brainwash children to become jihadis:

 

For months, the Palestinian children of the Gaza Strip would tune in to watch an adult in a knockoff Mickey Mouse costume blame Jewish people for the misery and sins of the world. 

 

Farfour the Mouse, a costumed character with an eerie, high-pitched voice who captured the attention of children, was broadcast on Al-Aqsa, the Hamas-run TV channel at the centre of the terror group's propaganda operation. 

 

The US described the TV channel as a ' primary Hamas media outlet with programs designed to recruit children to become Hamas armed fighters and suicide bombers upon reaching adulthood.'

 

Farfour would often take part in violent and anti-Semitic activities. In one 'sketch', he was caught copying off a fellow student in a classroom. Asked why he cheated, he said: 'It was against my will, because the Jews destroyed our home and I couldn't find my notebooks.'

Another clip shows Farfour telling Palestinian children about Islamic domination. 

 

He says in the clip: 'We, tomorrow's pioneers, will restore to this nation its glory, and we will liberate Al-Aqsa and Iraq with Allah's will, and we will liberate the Muslim countries, invaded by murderers.' 

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12914133/How-Hamas-brainwash-children-jihadis-Terrorists-teach-Gazan-kids-shoot-guns-launch-anti-tank-missiles-stage-suicide-attacks-against-Israel-summer-camps-indoctrinating-anti-Semitic-Mickey-Mouse-knock-off.html

 

 

Vile and disgusting and so far away from God's will its what some would call Satanic.

 

But one man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter.

 

So they say.

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19 hours ago, pi3141 said:

They do not get a free pass.

 

you know prior to the fall of constantinople to the ottomans under mehmed II in 1453, christendom had been battered by waves of armies from the east such as the huns, the avars, the bulgars, the magyars, the pechenegs, the mongols, the cumans, the jazyges, the golden horde of tatars under batu khan and attacks from turko-tatars continued until 1788

 

and you wouldn't want to fall into the hands of any of them...savagery beyond the comprehension of the modern mind

 

After the fall of the eastern, christian, roman empire the ottomans pressed on into europe until they were halted at vienna.

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3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

you know prior to the fall of constantinople to the ottomans under mehmed II in 1453, christendom had been battered by waves of armies from the east such as the huns, the avars, the bulgars, the magyars, the pechenegs, the mongols, the cumans, the jazyges, the golden horde of tatars under batu khan and attacks from turko-tatars continued until 1788

 

and you wouldn't want to fall into the hands of any of them...savagery beyond the comprehension of the modern mind

 

After the fall of the eastern, christian, roman empire the ottomans pressed on into europe until they were halted at vienna.

 

Spain was conquered too by the Moors in 711 AD and occupied for 780 years, until the Christians retook it in 1492. And now we are looking at a rapidly growing Muslim population in western Europe again. Having an ancestral religion and ethnic identity allows us to have such a long-term historical approach, whereas the cabal wants us to break with our past and become short-sighted. 

 

Also it shows that any other culture can become an enemy and attack us if we let down our guard. Even our own globalist overlords. Life is relentlessly competitive. It's why I shy away from blaming it all on particular groups like radical muslims, zios, Russians or Chinese. That's for the tactics, but the strategy is that we need to look after ourselves and look out for threats from all over. 

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17 hours ago, Campion said:

Also it shows that any other culture can become an enemy and attack us if we let down our guard. Even our own globalist overlords. Life is relentlessly competitive. It's why I shy away from blaming it all on particular groups like radical muslims, zios, Russians or Chinese. That's for the tactics, but the strategy is that we need to look after ourselves and look out for threats from all over. 

 

What I know most about is Western culture, but what of the Asian cultures. China has a very long history, its own mythology and cultural ambitions. Did they automatically join a secret group vying for power or did they oppose them? Did they even know they existed?

 

If they joined, they would be in an internal competition for dominance and if they opposed then what are their actions today?

 

What of their own secret societies, which they must have had, what of their own religious systems, why should they bow to the Jews for instance? Why should they join them and not oppose them? When did the Jews make contact with them and how did they convince them to join their world plan?

 

The idea of a Jewish conspiracy only stands up in the West yet those believing it give total control to them.

 

What of the good forces opposing the bad.

 

To blame one group is, in my opinion, to fall into 'their' divide and rule tactic.

 

To be solely focussed on one thing is to be blind to the other mechanisms at work, and blame the whole thing on one secret group, whom you can't prove is truly the culprit, is not rooted in logic, nor validated by history.

 

Yet I have great historical references to skulduggery and evil by the Christian Church and the Kings and Royalty the Church supported.

 

Its right in front of our faces.

 

Macnamara has posted proof of it - 

 

King Charles plans to knight Archbishop Justin Welby for 'personal service'

The Archbishop of Canterbury is set to be knighted by King Charles.

By Lauren Welch, Royal Reporter based in London
21:45, Fri, Dec 22, 2023 | UPDATED: 23:01, Fri, Dec 22, 2023
 
 
So the Church, coronated and thus legitimized the King as being the rightful owner of vast lands and wealth, due a wage from the common people and in return the Church is rewarded and recognised by the King as having spiritual authority over the common people.
 
All this because the Church supports the King's 'Divine right to rule' because he is of a special seed that can be traced back to antiquity. And because this special seed is the King of these lands, he gets to choose which religion he will support, whom in turn will support and legitimize his authority.
 
But where did all this authority and power come from?
 
Do we really believe King Charles is a relation of Adam and Eve and thus are a 'Special Seed' compared to the rest of us?
Do we really believe the Church leaders are more spiritual than us?
 
Because that's what all this is based on. The Royal Family have a so called 'Divine Claim' and thus need the Church to validate that claim, and if the Church does so, they get acknowledged as our spiritual leaders. Then the King and the Church get rich and influence our laws and society to their own gain.
 
And the Church leaders claim spiritual authority over us.
 
With the coronation we just witnessed the real power in action.
 
We witnessed the transference of wealth and power and the consolidation of power between the Church and the King, based on superstitious nonsense that has little legitimacy, but continues to have the greatest influence on our society.
 
Right in front of our faces, televised even, broadcast all over the world.
 
And yet it seems no-one see's it for what it really was.
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

 

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

What of their own secret societies, which they must have had, what of their own religious systems, why should they bow to the Jews for instance? Why should they join them and not oppose them? When did the Jews make contact with them and how did they convince them to join their world plan?

 

The idea of a Jewish conspiracy only stands up in the West yet those believing it give total control to them.

 

China was carved up by the western powers which themselves were under freemasonic control. The 'british' pushed opium grown in india onto the chinese and to distribute the drug they set up criminal gangs called 'the triads'. The hong kong and shanghai bank (HSBC) was created to handle the proceeds of the drug trade. One of the freemasons enriched in the process was matheson who used his vast wealth to buy up the scottish island of lewis and harris where he imposed his own economic schemes on the islanders showing that the native scots were as much the plaything of the cabal as the indians or the chinese were.

 

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What the 'british' empire did everywhere it went was set up freemasonic lodges into which they recruited willing psychopaths. So when countries like india declared 'independence' the lodges remained along with the secret networks which still operate through bodies like the 'commonwealth'.

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Then of course what you refer to as 'the jews' but what i am saying are the sabbateans created communism and they exported that to china for example through people like israel epstein

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Mao was himself educated in a branch of the US university Yale which was set up by skull and bones members who are themselves just knights templar, masonic bloodline families.

 

Mao then had 8 generals called 'the immortals' and it is their families who still run communist china today which was built into the powerhouse it is today by the rockefellers and other rothschild cabal members who pumped their money and corporations into china.

 

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

Yet I have great historical references to skulduggery and evil by the Christian Church and the Kings and Royalty the Church supported.

 

Its right in front of our faces.

Macnamara has posted proof of it -

King Charles plans to knight Archbishop Justin Welby for 'personal service'

 

no that is not a christian crowning a christian. That is a knights templar bloodline fake-christian crowning a freemason that is pretending to the british people to be a christian.

 

welby is of knights templar stock:

 

During Lady Williams of Elvel last year working for Churchill, she had a brief affair with his private secretary Sir Anthony Montague Browne.[8] Lady Williams of Elvel and Browne were ninth cousins once-removed, as descendants of John Erskine, Earl of Mar and eleventh cousins twice-removed as descendants of James V of Scotland.

In April 1955, she married Gavin Bramhall James Welby, a great-grandson of General Sir William Francis Patrick Napier.[9] On 6 January 1956, she gave birth to a son, Justin Portal Welby. A paternity test done in 2016 revealed that Welby was not the biological son of Gavin Welby, but of Browne.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Williams,_Baroness_Williams_of_Elvel

 

Welby's Masonic Service at Canterbury Cathedral at Odds with the Christian Faith

By David W. Virtue, DD
www.virtueonline.org
January 10, 2017

The Archbishop of Canterbury is following the example of President Donald Trump's thumbing his nose at the US judicial system.

In blatant defiance of a recent ruling against Freemasonry by an ecclesiastical judge of the Church of England, Justin Welby is opening his archiepiscopal cathedral at Canterbury to a full-scale Masonic service on February 18, 2017.

Canterbury Cathedral agreed to hold the service of thanksgiving to celebrate 300 years of Freemasonry after receiving a donation of £300,000 ($374,520) from the Masons for the restoration of the North-West Transept in the Cathedral.

This is in complete violation of the spirit of the ruling by Chancellor Geoffrey Tattersall (Queen's Counsel) who as the judge in the Consistory Court of the Diocese of Carlisle banned a family from having the Freemasons square and compass emblem engraved on the gravestone of a Freemason who died after devoting much of his life to the organization.

The set square and compass is a Masonic symbol and can be found on a number of large wooden tables at Liverpool Cathedral where Justin Welby was Dean before becoming Bishop of Durham and Archbishop of Canterbury.

While Welby was Dean of Liverpool he accepted a gift of £69,000 ($86,139) by the West Lancashire Freemasons' Charity, which was used to install a new elevator in the Lady Chapel in Liverpool Cathedral despite the uneasiness many felt about Welby's and the Cathedral's close association with Freemasonry.

The service at Canterbury Cathedral is expected to last about three hours and it is not clear whether Archbishop Welby has given his permission for the Masons to participate in full regalia.

Judge Tattersall's ruling delivered on 8 September 2016 was met with an angry response from the Masonic community. In his ruling, the judge stated that epitaphs on the gravestone "must be entirely compatible with the Christian faith."

Though Provincial Grand Master Keith Hodgson had argued that the Masonic symbol "can be seen in most cemeteries in this area," Judge Tattersall ruled that "no evidence has been produced to me that such symbol appears in any Church of England churchyards in the Diocese."

Tattersall's judgement was also questioned as he failed to disclose the symbols in prominent sections of Liverpool Cathedral and other cathedrals and did not disclose how he had arrived at the judgement that no such symbol has been used on any other gravestone. Liverpool Cathedral under Welby had permitted the symbol to be engraved on the elevator being donated.

Tattersall's ruling quoted at length from the report Freemasonry and Christianity: Are they compatible? -- a summary of the deliberations by the General Synod of the Church of England in July 1987.

In his ruling Mr Tattersall quoted the Synod report which stated that "it was "clear that some Christians have found the impact of Masonic rituals disturbing and a few perceive them as positively evil." Some believed that Masonic rituals were "blasphemous" because God's name "must not be taken in vain, nor can it be replaced by an amalgam of the names of pagan deities." It noted that Christians had withdrawn from Masonic lodges "precisely because they perceive their membership of it as being in conflict with their Christian witness and belief."

"The Synod's primary theological objection centred upon Freemasonry's use of the word "Jahbulon," which is the name used for the Supreme Being in Masonic rituals, and is an amalgamation of Semitic, Hebrew and Egyptian titles for God."

Conservative Christians are angered by Welby's willingness to "accept large bribes both at Liverpool and at Canterbury Cathedrals and compromise the very essence of the Christian faith when even the Roman Catholic church bans Freemasonry in its Canon Law," as a senior clergyman told VOL. "How can Welby expect his clergy to follow the law of the Church and accept discipline when he himself so dismissively treats such a significant issue when both General Synod and an ecclesiastical court have so clearly ruled on the issue," he said.

Welby's predecessor Dr Rowan Williams took a much firmer doctrinal position against freemasonry. However, in April 2003, Williams was forced to apologise to Britain's 330,000 Freemasons after he said that their beliefs were incompatible with Christianity and that he had rejected them from senior posts in his diocese.

The Dean of Canterbury Cathedral, the Very Reverend Robert Willis, has agreed to preside personally at this Service. The Cathedral has agreed that a special plaque will be placed in the Cathedral building to show the support given by the Freemasons, as well as a permanent engraving in the Stonework within the Tower.

END

https://virtueonline.org/welbys-masonic-service-canterbury-cathedral-odds-christian-faith

 

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The ‘Great Temple of Solomon’ at Stirling Castle

In 1594, a new Chapel Royal was erected at Stirling Castle, for the baptism, on 30 August of that year, of Prince Henry, first-born son and heir to James VI King of Scots and his wife, Queen Anna, sister of Denmark’s Christian IV. James saw the baptism as a major opportunity to emphasize, to an international — and, above all, English — audience, both his own and Henry’s suitability as heirs to England’s childless and elderly Queen Elizabeth. To commemorate the baptism and associated festivities, a detailed written account was produced, entitled A True Reportarie and attributed to William Fowler. It provided a remarkable piece of Stuart propaganda, as testified by many subsequent reprints, including during the 1745 Jacobite Rebellion. James no doubt had in mind the example of the celebrations at his own baptism in December 1566, which ‘took the form of a triumphant Renaissance festival, the first that Scotland — and indeed Great Britain — had ever seen’. Despite apparently being constructed within a mere seven months, the new chapel achieved its aim of being both impressive and symbolic of the aspirations of the Scottish king (Fig. 1). It can claim to be the earliest Renaissance church in Britain, with its main entrance framed by a triumphal arch, flanked by Italianate windows. However, even more significant is the evidence that the chapel was deliberately modelled on the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem.
 
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King Charles said to signal interest in a trip to Israel

Visit would be the first by a sitting British monarch; Conservative politician says initial prep already underway; Gaza flareup reportedly delayed effort

By ToI Staff 14 May 2023, 4:54 pm
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Britain's King Charles III, left, speaks with President Isaac Herzog and his wife Michal during a reception at Buckingham Palace, in London, May 5, 2023 for overseas guests attending his coronation. (Jacob King/Pool Photo via AP)

Prince William Wears 'Yarmulke' as he Visits Wailing Wall

Published June 28th, 2018 - 10:59 GMT

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Britain's Prince William touches the Western Wall, the holiest site where Jews can pray, in Jerusalem's Old City today. (AFP/ File)

https://www.albawaba.com/editorchoice/prince-william-wears-yarmulke-he-visits-wailing-wall-1151636

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Prior to being made the head of the english church welby worked in the oil industry. His bio page on the world economic forum says he worked for elf aquitaine from 1978-1989: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/justin-welby/

 

By 1994 a huge scandal had erupted at elf and i wonder just how long that corruption had been going on at elf...

Fraud scandal

The Elf scandal came to light in 1994 in France. According to The Guardian, it was 'the biggest fraud inquiry in Europe since the Second World War... Elf became a private bank for executives who spent £200 million on political favors, mistresses, jewellery, fine art, villas and apartments'.[3] Iraqi-born Nadhmi Auchi, received a 15-month suspended sentence and a £1.5m fine for his involvement taking illegal commissions.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf_Aquitaine

 

Then he went to work for enterprise oil from 1984-1987. Enterprise was then bought up by royal dutch shell in 2002 and the british royal family are heavily invested in royal dutch shell as are the rothschilds:

 

In this project, Jennifer Siegel will write one chapter in the story of the Russian oil industry: the involvement of the Rothschild family from its first collaboration with BNITO in 1884 to the transfer of their holdings to the Royal Dutch Shell Company in 1912

https://mershoncenter.osu.edu/research-projects/transnational-origins-russian-oil-industry-rothschilds-bnito-and-baku-naphtha

 

The sale of BNITO involved the closing of the Paris Agency on May 31st, 1912. In
any case, the Rothschild had become one of the prominent shareholders of the
Royal Dutch /Shell.

https://ebha.org/ebha2007/pdf/Jaloustre.pdf

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

All this because the Church supports the King's 'Divine right to rule' because he is of a special seed that can be traced back to antiquity. And because this special seed is the King of these lands, he gets to choose which religion he will support, whom in turn will support and legitimize his authority.

 
But where did all this authority and power come from?
 
Do we really believe King Charles is a relation of Adam and Eve and thus are a 'Special Seed' compared to the rest of us?

 

king charles is a knights templar, crypto-jewish bloodline

 

His crest contains the harp of david because his ancestors, the stuarts, believed that they were descended from the biblical king david. THAT is where they claim their divine right to rule from. Why did the stuarts believe that? They believed it because they were descended from crypto-jewish knights templar bloodlines that claimed a lineage back to those who fled the temple in jerusalem to escape the sacking of the city by the romans in 70AD. Those refugees came to jewish colonies around the Meditteranean sea including marseilles in the south of france where they then intermarried with frankish nobility.

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as well as david's harp note the templar cross at the top of the crown:

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The knights templar were persecuted in france by the french king and his puppet pope but within a short time of that the templar network had managed to murder the king and his pope and in britain the order was not persecuted. It merely merged with the knights of st john. here is the queen in her knights of st john regalia:

 

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the queen with her nurse who is wearing a masonic belt buckle:

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3 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Thanks Mac. Seeing the masonic symbol next to the wiccan pentagram shows a similarity which I haven't noticed before. 

 

the order of the eastern star is a freemasonic branch for women. it might be related to that

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20 hours ago, Macnamara said:

no that is not a christian crowning a christian. That is a knights templar bloodline fake-christian crowning a freemason that is pretending to the british people to be a christian.

 

I say its a Pagan priest crowning a Pagan King.

 

I say Freemasons are no more than the old Pagan mystery schools and that Judaism is itself based on Paganism as is Islam.

 

Rev Taylor say's that Jew is just a degree of initiation into the Mysteries - Pagan Mysteries, as are the terms Hebrew and Christian.

 

They just symbolize degree's of initiation.

 

It is argued that there is no such nation as the Jews.

 

Its possible the modern Freemason's are the Gnostics.

 

But to me, Freemasonry is but more Paganism.

 

 

From The Devils Pulpit -

 

The name of Israelites, Jews, or Hebrews, did never designate a political or national body, but were the name, which, from an infinitely remote antiquity, designated the reXuoi^ the Upereets, the Autops, the Rechabites, the Fanatics, the Frantics, the Lunatics, or whatever other tics and bites might be used, to signify the highest order of the initiated in whose holy mysteries ; and to whom, and to whom alone, were committed the oracles of G-od. As the name Jew, or Jeue, is the identical name which we pronounce Jehovah, and is a name given to the worshippers of Jeue, not from their country, but from their God : and hence Jesus Christ was said to be a Jew   i.e., a God.

 

As their great ecclesiastical historian, Eusebius, translates the name Hebrew, and correctly (^nzjyr: rr[2n) translates it, one who has passed over, and says that it was given to those *' whose religious philosophy had burst through the limits of the visible world, and passed into the bosom of intellectuality, and into that divine light, where are invisible and hidden essences."* 

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

I say its a Pagan priest crowning a Pagan King.

 

I say Freemasons are no more than the old Pagan mystery schools and that Judaism is itself based on Paganism as is Islam.

 

Rev Taylor say's that Jew is just a degree of initiation into the Mysteries - Pagan Mysteries, as are the terms Hebrew and Christian.

 

i have read 'the devil's pulpit' but what i would say is the common theme here amongst the controlling groups: knights templar/freemasons, sabbatean jews, chabad lubavitch, jesuits is that at the core of everything they are doing is lurianic kabbalah

 

so you can talk about 'paganism' but ultimately that creates confusion because for some that just means those people of the countryside, whereas speaking about lurianic kabbalah is very specific

 

so what we are seeing there is a covert kabbalist crowning a covert kabbalist, both of which see themselves as part of a bloodline community of people with an exclusive occult outlook whereas most christians believe that christianity is open to everyone providing they acknowledge jesus as saviour and live by his tenets

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3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

i have read 'the devil's pulpit' but what i would say is the common theme here amongst the controlling groups: knights templar/freemasons, sabbatean jews, chabad lubavitch, jesuits is that at the core of everything they are doing is lurianic kabbalah

 

If you are correct, it is well documented that the Jews got their religious system while in captivity in Babylon. Hence the 'magic' they have, they was given by other's.

 

What do you suppose happened to those - shall we call them Priests or Mystics, that gave the Jews their Kabbalah?

 

Do you think the Jew's were given the most powerful magic from the priests or mystics that had already worked it out and were able to give it away to slaves?

 

Do you not think there is a greater magic than that of the Kabbalah?

 

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Islamic eschatology

 

Islamic eschatology (Arabic: عِلْم آخر الزمان في الإسلام, ‘ilm ākhir az-zamān fī al-islām) is a field of study in Islam concerning future events that would happen in the end times. It is primarily based on sources from the Quran and Sunnah. Aspects from this field of study include the signs of the final age, the destruction of the universe and Judgement Day.

 

The general consensus of Muslim scholars agree there would be tremendous and distinctive signs before the world ends. Among which would be an era of trials and tribulations, a time of immorality followed by mighty wars, worldwide unnatural phenomena and the return of justice to the world. Defining figures are also prophesied such as the Mahdi, and the Second Coming of Isa who brings about a heavenly victory against Dajjal, Antichrist ending with the release of Yajuj and Majuj (Gog and Magog) to the world.[4] Once all the events are completed, the universe shall be destroyed and every human being would be resurrected to be held accountable for their deeds.

 

 

Signs of the End Times

 

Al-Masih ad-Dajjal (Arabic: المسيح الدجّال, romanized: al-Masīḥ ad-Dajjāl, lit. 'Deceitful Messiah'),[24] is blind in one eye, and will deceive starving masses – especially the Jews – by performing miracles.[25][26][citation needed] He will raise an army that will kill and conquer,[27] and corner his nemesis, the Mahdi, along with a small army of Muslim fighters in Jerusalem. Jesus will descend from heaven just in time to kill him and defeat his army.[25][citation needed]

 

The Mahdi (Arabic: ٱلْمَهْدِيّ, romanized: al-mahdīy), i.e. the "Rightly Guided One", is a messianic figure descended from Muhammad through Ali, who (with the help of Jesus) will defeat the Dajjal, reestablish Islamic law, rid the world of bid'a (religious innovation), and fill it with justice;[30] (Sunni and Shia disagree on details such as whether he is currently alive, will kill the Dajjal himself, what he looks like, his exact ancestry, etc.)

 


Jesus (Arabic: عِيسَى ٱبْنُ مَرْيَمَ, romanized: ʿĪsā ibn Maryam, lit. 'Isa, son of Maryam') will make a second coming, descending to earth, but unlike in Christianity it will be to assist the Mahdi by killing the dajjal, "break[ing] the cross, kill[ing] the pigs, and abolish[ing] the Jizya tax",[31][32] i.e. put an end to Christians misconceptions about his being the Son of God and there being no need to follow dietary laws.[33] Jesus and the Mahdi will then rule the earth in perfect justice for a time before Judgement Day. (Shia believe it is the Mahdi who will kill the dajjal; others believe "the Mahdi" is not a distinct person but just the title given to Jesus.)

 

Link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_eschatology

 

 

 

Do you know who the 'pigs' are?

 

Quran: Jews & Christians are “Apes & Pigs”

Link - https://monasabahbooks.com/2017/08/16/quran-jews-christians-are-apes-pigs/

 

 

Breaking the cross and killing the swine

 

In Islam, we see the conflict from the other side. As we already have seen above, the Muslim army under the Mahdi and Jesus are bound toward Jerusalem to conquer it from the Dajjal and his “Jews.” In the Hadith, we can read Jesus’ function in this war is:

Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).

Sahih al-Bukhari 2476

 

According to exegete Ibn Hajar and the following Fatwas ( Jesus Return before the Day of Judgement & The second coming of Jesus ) what it means is that Jesus will destroy Christian power (break the cross) and abolish Christian practice (kill the pigs), thus confirming the Muslim version of the Jesus narrative.

 

Link - https://www.quora.com/According-to-Islams-prophecy-when-Jesus-returns-to-Earth-he-will-kill-the-pigs-Why-should-he-kill-the-pigs

 

 

So you fixate on the Jews, as do the Muslims, but the truth is ALL the Abrahamic religions have End Times prophecy, and some of the extremists from ALL the Abrahamic religions pursue to speed up end times in which they ALL will be judged the true religion and ALL the others will be judged as wrong and those adherents will be killed.

 

The end times in Islam calls for the Muslims to kill everyone that will not convert.

 

Do you think the Jewish end times is worse than the Muslim?

 

Do you think the Jewish magic is more powerful than the Muslim magic?

 

Do you think Jewish magic is the most powerful magic?

 

Do you think Judaism is less tolerant than Islam?

 

Do you think Jews are more fanatic than Muslims?

 

Do you think Christians are less fanatic than Jews or Muslims?

 

Why?

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1 minute ago, pi3141 said:

If you are correct, it is well documented that the Jews got their religious system while in captivity in Babylon. Hence the 'magic' they have, they was given by other's.

 

What do you suppose happened to those - shall we call them Priests or Mystics, that gave the Jews their Kabbalah?

 

Do you think the Jew's were given the most powerful magic from the priests or mystics that had already worked it out and were able to give it away to slaves?

 

Do you not think there is a greater magic than that of the Kabbalah?

 

Interesting questions

 

we could also ask:

 

-is kabbalah innately evil or is it neutral and dependent on who uses it?

-is the kabbalah a man made spiritual roadmap or was it, as is claimed, revealed to mankind by an angel called 'raziel'?

-if it was revealed by an angel Raziel, is Raziel a fallen angel or is he a good angel?

 

we are getting into speculation now and i don't claim to be qualified to give definitive answers to these. What i do know is that isaac luria taught his own kabbalah and it is claimed that version is a supremacist doctrine. We also know that both the sabbateans and chabad lubavitch subscribe to lurianic kabbalah

 

I also know that kabbalah is at the centre of freemasonry and what i'm saying to you is that i discovered something because i was researching a particular thing that i wanted to write a book about, but what i found meant i couldn't write that book.

 

There is in britain a network of occultists who are kabbalistic magicians and that network go back to the knights templar and operate today through various orders, the most prominent of which is freemasonry and those people are completely in bed with the sabbatean jewish banking families that came out of frankfurt and created the central banks including the federal reserve

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Its my belief they also control the vatican. Now we could argue over whether or not the vatican was just a transplanted babylonian brotherhood operation from the beginning or if it was a subversion of the original christianity or if it started ok but was subverted but what we can say is that evidently, today its jesuit pope is absolutely on board with the new world order agenda.

The Freemasons Tercentenary Celebration [FULL VIDEO STREAMED]

 

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3 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

Do you think the Jewish end times is worse than the Muslim?

 

Do you think the Jewish magic is more powerful than the Muslim magic?

 

Do you think Jewish magic is the most powerful magic?

 

Do you think Judaism is less tolerant than Islam?

 

Do you think Jews are more fanatic than Muslims?

 

Do you think Christians are less fanatic than Jews or Muslims?

 

Why?

 

i think you are asking the wrong questions. For example are the ten richest men in the world muslims or are they mostly 'jews'?

 

or if we consider that the global economy is now dominated by blackrock, state street and vanguard, are those investment houses run by muslims? for example is larry fink a muslim?

 

Did the muslims create the central banks?

 

Do the muslims run big tech companies like oracle that now handle all of britains sensitive data?

 

Do the muslims own facebook, twitter (musks grandad was jewish), google etc?

 

Are the neo-cons who dictate american foreign policy and who steer the most powerful military on earth muslims?

 

The answer to these and many more similar questions you could ask is 'NO they are not muslims'. So then if we are trying to establish who is behind the conspiracy to control the world we can see that the muslims are not behind it. In fact if we look at muslim countries we can see that many of them are being bombed into oblivion

 

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