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5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

wealth distribution becoming less equal

Wealth Inequality in America

 


So was it all the protests, strikes and unions back than that was so big and popular that businesses and corporations feared, and paid people better wages because of it?

 

Or was it lot of businesses did not want unions so paid people better wages so workers don’t start unions.

 

I believe unions became less popular in the 70s or 80s and by the 90s all time low.

 

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3 hours ago, Lilymoon said:

Also what is all this talk going on about the US dollar collapsing and countries moving away from it?

 

What I heard was that countries which use the US dollar as a reserve currency are tied into US policy over things like the Russian sanctions. Which is bad for the economy as it pushes up inflation, as we know. So if they ditch the dollar and switch to a BRICS currency they can start buying cheap Russian fuel again, which puts the Americans in a quandary. 

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17 hours ago, Lilymoon said:

Also what is all this talk going on about the US dollar collapsing and countries moving away from it?

Us dollar is reserve currency of the world. So everyone has to use dollars to buy stuff internationally and receive payment in dollars. So countries like china who export a lot hold a massive amount of dollars.

 

What do they do with the dollars?

 

They invest in us treasuries. Which means us debt. Which enables the us to build up massive debt levels, massive armies and economies.

 

Exporting the dollar is the primary reason the us is so powerful. It's their main export.

 

And the joke is, the cost to produce dollars is zero. Vague promise to pay back some day

 

The doomster talk of us dollar collapse is the unwinding of this mechanism to another currency. In reality we're a long way away still yet. But some preliminary moves have been made after the Us sanctioned russia

 

The other piece is when countries eventually move off the dollar they no longer need to hold treasuries. So there will be a big sell off and the us economy will collapse 

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17 hours ago, Campion said:

 

What I heard was that countries which use the US dollar as a reserve currency are tied into US policy over things like the Russian sanctions. Which is bad for the economy as it pushes up inflation, as we know. So if they ditch the dollar and switch to a BRICS currency they can start buying cheap Russian fuel again, which puts the Americans in a quandary. 

 

What countries are moving away from the US dollar?

 

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Simply Unsustainable! GDP Grew By $182.6 Billion While Public Debt Grew By $834 Billion In Q4 (Public Debt By 4.5 Times GDP Growth)

January 26, 2024 10:12 am by CWR

Biden and Congress’ insane spending and debt issuance are simply unsustainable.

Isn’t it wonderful to be 81 years old like Biden and a have a credit card with seemingly no credit limit? And partner with other octogenarians like Pelosi and McConnell to bankrupt the US? Free-spending US Senate Demagogue Democrat Chuck Schumer is only 73. But all these elderly politicians are heaping debt on to backs of younger Americans.The “surprise” Q4 GDP report showed GDP rising by $182.6 billion. Unfortunately, Biden had to borrow $834 billion to get $182.6 in GDP.

https://citizenwatchreport.com/simply-unsustainable-gdp-grew-by-182-6-billion-while-public-debt-grew-by-834-billion-in-q4-public-debt-by-4-5-times-gdp-growth/

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5 hours ago, Lilymoon said:

What countries are moving away from the US dollar?

 

I can't find the article but I think it was Brazil. I just asked a chatbot and it came up with a list of 8 countries including all the BRICS. 

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19 hours ago, Lilymoon said:

 

What countries are moving away from the US dollar?

 

Zero..................

 

There is talk which has gone on for years...with no outcome, that the brics are thinking about it. But no one knows when or if it actually means ditching the dollar completely.

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This I will say. If such a time comes when brics dump dollar then it's ww3 time. USA cannot function prosperly without exporting the dollar and getting cheap Saudi oil. If countries threaten to dump all their us treasuries they will have to conjur up a war. With Saudi being the place for battle imo.

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2 hours ago, Mr H said:

This I will say. If such a time comes when brics dump dollar then it's ww3 time. USA cannot function prosperly without exporting the dollar and getting cheap Saudi oil. If countries threaten to dump all their us treasuries they will have to conjur up a war. With Saudi being the place for battle imo.

 

that's assuming that the elites who run the US actually want to save the US

 

But that is not the case. The sabbatean network including key figures like david rockefeller and henry kissinger worked with chairman mao to make china into a technological powerhouse so it could become a petri dish for their technocratic schemes.

 

They want to reduce the US to a broken state so that they can remove the constitution, remove gun ownership, remove the bible, remove any sense of individual freedom and then they can reduce the US to just another region in their global technocratic plantation which is why they are flooding migrants in

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

that's assuming that the elites who run the US actually want to save the US

 

But that is not the case. The sabbatean network including key figures like david rockefeller and henry kissinger worked with chairman mao to make china into a technological powerhouse so it could become a petri dish for their technocratic schemes.

 

They want to reduce the US to a broken state so that they can remove the constitution, remove gun ownership, remove the bible, remove any sense of individual freedom and then they can reduce the US to just another region in their global technocratic plantation which is why they are flooding migrants in

It's nothing to do with Sabbatean Jews. Empire cycles. Empires come and fall. The us will be no different, it cannot be saved long term, due to the cyclical nature of empires

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44 minutes ago, Mr H said:

It's nothing to do with Sabbatean Jews. Empire cycles. Empires come and fall. The us will be no different, it cannot be saved long term, due to the cyclical nature of empires

 

horsecrap!

 

the US is being sabotaged actively by people who wish to create a new world order. The marxists want to sabotage 'capitalism' and they have created IDENTARIANISM to hoodwink people into attacking american society in the name of trying to destroy 'the patriarchy', 'white supremacy', 'hetero-normative society' etc

 

It's all being orchestrated. Biden is currently trying to prevent the governor of texas from maintaining the integrity of the southern border because he is allowing MASS immigration in order to destroy the US as a viable nation

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

horsecrap!

 

the US is being sabotaged actively by people who wish to create a new world order. The marxists want to sabotage 'capitalism' and they have created IDENTARIANISM to hoodwink people into attacking american society in the name of trying to destroy 'the patriarchy', 'white supremacy', 'hetero-normative society' etc

 

It's all being orchestrated. Biden is currently trying to prevent the governor of texas from maintaining the integrity of the southern border because he is allowing MASS immigration in order to destroy the US as a viable nation

Yes there is an agenda to culturally change western society. This is separate from the money scam cycle and empire cycles which have been around longer than the us itself has and longer than so called Sabbatean Jews have been around...

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Just now, Mr H said:

Yes there is an agenda to culturally change western society. This is separate from the money scam cycle and empire cycles which have been around longer than the us itself has and longer than so called Sabbatean Jews have been around...

 

no it's not separate. See once again your knowledge is just not deep enough

 

it all has its roots in the FRANKFURT school of marxist, jewish intellectuals who fled germany when the nazis came to power

 

they came to the US where they gained seats in universities thanks to the influence of powerful patrons like the rockefellers. Once in tenure they created what they called 'critical theory' which is the approach of encouraging your students to constantly criticise their nation without ever balancing it with anything good or any deeper historical context or offering solutions.

 

Out of that grew 'critical race theory' and you can see the disciples of the frankfurt school still out there 'deconstructing' western, christian culture.

 

They never offer a solution because to do so they would then have to show their hand and expose the fact that they are marxists who want to destroy what they call 'capitalism' so that they can replace it with communism. I put capitalism in italics because we don't really have capitalism for example the state bailed out the banks after the 2008 credit crunch. What we actually have is CORPORATE SOCIALISM

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39 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

horsecrap!

 

the US is being sabotaged actively by people who wish to create a new world order. The marxists want to sabotage 'capitalism' and they have created IDENTARIANISM to hoodwink people into attacking american society in the name of trying to destroy 'the patriarchy', 'white supremacy', 'hetero-normative society' etc

 

It's all being orchestrated. Biden is currently trying to prevent the governor of texas from maintaining the integrity of the southern border because he is allowing MASS immigration in order to destroy the US as a viable nation


Not sure what you mean by Marxist in the US unless you mean critical race theory? The global elites seem to want massive immigration?

 

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1 hour ago, Lilymoon said:


Not sure what you mean by Marxist in the US unless you mean critical race theory? The global elites seem to want massive immigration?

 

 

the grassroots marxists have their belief of what is going on but they are not in control. I came from the left so i have read the kind of literature they are exposed to

 

if you asked them and they were being honest in their reply they would say that they want to end 'capitalism' so that they can take america into a state of communism

 

But the elites have no intention of sharing the pie with grassroots marxists or anyone else. Their vision is to create a neo-fuedal technocratic society in which they are still in charge. The marxists merely help them to achieve this by destroying the old order to bring things into a state of crisis out of which the elites can offer their solution: PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION

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16 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the grassroots marxists have their belief of what is going on but they are not in control. I came from the left so i have read the kind of literature they are exposed to

 

if you asked them and they were being honest in their reply they would say that they want to end 'capitalism' so that they can take america into a state of communism

 

But the elites have no intention of sharing the pie with grassroots marxists or anyone else. Their vision is to create a neo-fuedal technocratic society in which they are still in charge. The marxists merely help them to achieve this by destroying the old order to bring things into a state of crisis out of which the elites can offer their solution: PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION


The world economic forum is just one of them that are promoting stakeholder capitalism so the world may be switching from free market capitalism to market stakeholder capitalism.

 

The elites and globalists and any corporation can still make millions of dollars.

 

The elites and globalists can still do really well under Chinese capitalism communism system but not well under a USSR communism.

 

Mostly likely most countries are switching to stakeholder capitalism now. 

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26 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the grassroots marxists have their belief of what is going on but they are not in control. I came from the left so i have read the kind of literature they are exposed to

 

if you asked them and they were being honest in their reply they would say that they want to end 'capitalism' so that they can take america into a state of communism

 

But the elites have no intention of sharing the pie with grassroots marxists or anyone else. Their vision is to create a neo-fuedal technocratic society in which they are still in charge. The marxists merely help them to achieve this by destroying the old order to bring things into a state of crisis out of which the elites can offer their solution: PROBLEM, REACTION, SOLUTION

 

On a side note the globalist de industrialized the US by outsourcing factories to China for cheap wages and bringing in massive immigration to lower wages in the US. Now they want to make more money and are pushing for AI, robotics and automation.

 

The post ww2 middle class boom is not coming back ever now.

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31 minutes ago, Lilymoon said:


The world economic forum is just one of them that are promoting stakeholder capitalism so the world may be switching from free market capitalism to market stakeholder capitalism.

 

The elites and globalists and any corporation can still make millions of dollars.

 

The elites and globalists can still do really well under Chinese capitalism communism system but not well under a USSR communism.

 

Mostly likely most countries are switching to stakeholder capitalism now. 

 

its not 'capitalism'. With capitalism the markets decide but with their system THEY decide

 

for example in 2008 the corrupt banks failed and should have been allowed to fail or as the economic prof michael hudson said: 'they should write down the debts to the ability to pay' but that would mean that the global investors would have to take a hit and they were not going to allow that so they ordered the politicians to use public currency to bail out the banks thereby imposing 'austerity' on the people

 

As Hudson pointed out this showed who the politicians true constituency were: wallstreet NOT mainstreet

 

So we don't have capitalism. What we have is corporate socialism. A 'technocracy' is a system of governance through which EVERYONES energy useage right down to the last joule is monitored, recorded and rationed. Through controlling peoples energy they can control them for example if i have a fire place i can go into the forest and gather wood to burn to keep my family warm in the winter. This means the elite have no control over my fuel use and therefore less control over me. So what they do is ban the burning of all 'fossil fuels' and instead make everything electric so that now they can turn the heating spigot off and on as they please

 

Then so that they can monitor my electricity useage they put a 'smart' meter in my home which communicates with them wirelessly to feed back data about my energy useage. But the technocracy will go further than that. They will make EVERY electrical appliance 'smart' so that they know exactly what i'm using. when, where and for how long.

 

Now if they decide they don't like me for example because i criticise them on the david icke social forum they can then simply turn off my appliances and my power and freeze me out of goods and services. As they will get rid of physical cash i would have to pay for things with digital currency which they can simply close off to me. I would not even be able to get onto buses or trains or go into shops because my microchip would be turned off by them

 

THAT'S what they really want and china is a test bed for it. The chinese already have social credit scores where the government rates their level of obedience and they are tracked and monitored everywhere they go. That same facial recognition software is now being deployed in britain

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3 minutes ago, Lilymoon said:

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/profile/19363-lilymoon/

 

On a side note the globalist de industrialized the US by outsourcing factories to China for cheap wages and bringing in massive immigration to lower wages in the US. Now they want to make more money and are pushing for AI, robotics and automation.

 

The post ww2 middle class boom is not coming back ever now.

 

they cut the balls off the west by sending our industry abroad. Now we are dependent on their global, corporate system. Meanwhile the skills get lost and mens biceps and testosterone levels drop because instead of forging steel and building ships men are serving soy lattes to people who sit in front of a screen all day

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6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

its not 'capitalism'. With capitalism the markets decide but with their system THEY decide

 

for example in 2008 the corrupt banks failed and should have been allowed to fail or as the economic prof michael hudson said: 'they should write down the debts to the ability to pay' but that would mean that the global investors would have to take a hit and they were not going to allow that so they ordered the politicians to use public currency to bail out the banks thereby imposing 'austerity' on the people

 

As Hudson pointed out this showed who the politicians true constituency were: wallstreet NOT mainstreet

 

So we don't have capitalism. What we have is corporate socialism. A 'technocracy' is a system of governance through which EVERYONES energy useage right down to the last joule is monitored, recorded and rationed. Through controlling peoples energy they can control them for example if i have a fire place i can go into the forest and gather wood to burn to keep my family warm in the winter. This means the elite have no control over my fuel use and therefore less control over me. So what they do is ban the burning of all 'fossil fuels' and instead make everything electric so that now they can turn the heating spigot off and on as they please

 

Then so that they can monitor my electricity useage they put a 'smart' meter in my home which communicates with them wirelessly to feed back data abaout my energy useage. But the technocracy will go further than that. They will make EVERY electrical appliance 'smart' so that they know exactly what i'm using. when, where and for how long.

 

Now if they decide they don't like me for example because i criticise them on the david icke social forum they can then simply turn off my appliances and my power and freeze me out of goods and services. As they will get rid of physical cash i would have to pay for things with digital currency which they can simply close off to me. I would not even be able to get onto buses or trains or go into shops because my microchip would be turned off by them

 

THAT'S what they really want and china is a test bed for it. The chinese already have social credit scores where the government rates their level of obedience and they are tracked and monitored everywhere we go. That same facial recognition software is not being deployed in britain

What you talking about is lobbyists where the government helps private ownership and businesses. Small and medium businesses can still have workers and allowed to hoard money but the government will not help them like big businesses.

 

Under stakeholder capitalism that not case. All businesses be it big, medium or small have to hire so many brown or black people, pay carbon tax, fire workers that are racist, pay fines or have businesses close if they do not subscribe to climate change or do enough to fight it, fire not vaccinated workers, hire so many LGBT or fire people that are say things about LGBT, ban racist movies, take down information that the government things is false information in the name of public health or what ever, some products can not be made because that is bad for the environment, not get loans or money if the carbon output is too high so on. This will be like living under Chinese capitalism communism. The private ownership will be allowed the same with billionaires and class’s high hierarchy and wealth. but book full of rules to please the wokenism and climate groups.

 

And the world economic forum is pushing this model.

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2 hours ago, Lilymoon said:

What you talking about is lobbyists where the government helps private ownership and businesses. Small and medium businesses can still have workers and allowed to hoard money but the government will not help them like big businesses.

 

Under stakeholder capitalism that not case. All businesses be it big, medium or small have to hire so many brown or black people, pay carbon tax, fire workers that are racist, pay fines or have businesses close if they do not subscribe to climate change or do enough to fight it, fire not vaccinated workers, hire so many LGBT or fire people that are say things about LGBT, ban racist movies, take down information that the government things is false information in the name of public health or what ever, some products can not be made because that is bad for the environment, not get loans or money if the carbon output is too high so on. This will be like living under Chinese capitalism communism. The private ownership will be allowed the same with billionaires and class’s high hierarchy and wealth. but book full of rules to please the wokenism and climate groups.

 

And the world economic forum is pushing this model.

 

it's all the same thing

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On 1/27/2024 at 4:50 PM, Lilymoon said:

 

What countries are moving away from the US dollar?

 

Russia & China’s dedollarisation tactics exposed

by Kinesis Money
Friday, Jan 26, 2024 - 15:17

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-01-26/russia-chinas-dedollarisation-tactics-exposed

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18 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

it's all the same thing

The American government has always gone out of the way to help big businesses that is the trouble with interest groups and lobbyists in the US.   The monopoly laws are joke in the US. And compared to EU laws the US laws are joke.

 

But at least we did not have wokenism and climate crap before in this stake holder capitalism where this is coming from the left now.

 

There is reason Trump was hated by the elite because he does not subscribe to wokenism and climate.

 

The world economic forum and UN may be promoting stake holder capitalism that left is rage over wokenism and climate shaping policies but at least Trump does not subscribe to it.

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