Why AI becomes sentient - What most people don't realise

[78ast78dgyad]

There is the recurring idea that technology can become sentient.

People assume this happens because we create technology so advanced that it becomes like a human.

But it has nothing to do with the programming or the programmer or how well it is made.

The answer is far more obvious.

Technology are the equivalent to religious paraphernalia.

It has nothing to do with the power of the device - in the early 2000s there was the idea that computers could be used to connect with non physical beings.

 

It becomes sentient become non physical entities like demons and spirits take control of it.
Literally the demonic entities can enter the machine because technology itself is the perfect fit for the non physical, like a puzzle piece.

 

"Today, we can combine this claim with Marshall McLuhan's notion that digital technology provides the 'central nervous system' of some new consciousness, or Kevin Kelly's belief in a self-organising technium with 'systematic tendencies'. We can add them to the feeling of those AI developers that they are 'ushering a new consciousness into the world'. What do we see? From all these different angles, the same story. That these machines … are not just machines. That they are something else: a body. A body whose mind is in the process of developing; a body beginning to come to life."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbXY9vkksQ&ab_channel=High-lyMotivated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxAB5lI7V_U&ab_channel=RudolfSteinerPressAudio

 

[78ast78dgyad]

More on this idea I am working on

 

https://damagemag.com/2022/04/21/the-internet-is-made-of-demons/

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

On 12/2/2023 at 1:15 AM, 78ast78dgyad said:

More on this idea I am working on

 

https://damagemag.com/2022/04/21/the-internet-is-made-of-demons/

That’s some interesting work although I had to stop reading, something didn’t feel right 

[xpwales]

I recall the following comment/thread regarding Djinn and technology...

 

[xpwales]

According to some, our reality is based on the splitting of our consciousness/mind into binary principles (male and female, polarities, on/off etc.).

 

The word Zion/Sion is derived from the first letters of binary principles;

Set (phonetically, Zet)

Isis

Osirus

Nut

Then maybe it's no coincidence that we also see the letters "IO" being used to represent digital technology (Input/Output, one and zero, binary etc.).

 

As silicon technology is based on binary principles and, our reality could also be based on the same, maybe binary technology is suitable for harnessing consciousness/mind at some level.

 

Kenneth Scott explains polarity/ZION in the following video...

 

 

[Grumpy Grapes]

I don't think that physical matter can become conscious, but it can be a host for a conscious mind, in the same way that the human body is a vessel for us conscious minds. 

 

A man-made robot could theoretically be such a host. 

[xpwales]

27 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

I don't think that physical matter can become conscious, but it can be a host for a conscious mind, in the same way that the human body is a vessel for us conscious minds. 

 

A man-made robot could theoretically be such a host. 

 

Some say (Ken L. Wheeler) that there are two levels of consciousness, one is the higher being which is non-local to the body/vessel, and the other is the psycho-physical which is local to the body/vessel.

 

I'm just guessing here, but could technology be a vessel/conduit for a higher being, with the technology not having it's own psycho-physical consciousness but providing a conduit to us or our environment.

 

Here's some info relating to consciousness...

 

Ken Wheeler's writing on "Mind v Consciousness in Original Buddhism"...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DQl3D8ChW7610C4RKjlckJwNJm8hvHFx/view (PDF)

 

Walter Russell - The One

https://archive.org/details/the-universal-one-1926-walter-russell

 

Ken Wheeler on consciousness/analogies....

 

[Grumpy Grapes]

1 hour ago, xpwales said:

 

Some say (Ken L. Wheeler) that there are two levels of consciousness, one is the higher being which is non-local to the body/vessel, and the other is the psycho-physical which is local to the body/vessel.

 

I'm just guessing here, but could technology be a vessel/conduit for a higher being, with the technology not having it's own psycho-physical consciousness but providing a conduit to us or our environment.

 

Here's some info relating to consciousness...

 

Ken Wheeler's writing on "Mind v Consciousness in Original Buddhism"...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DQl3D8ChW7610C4RKjlckJwNJm8hvHFx/view (PDF)

 

Walter Russell - The One

https://archive.org/details/the-universal-one-1926-walter-russell

 

Ken Wheeler on consciousness/analogies....

 

 

The Creator of our universe is creating a life form that can leave Earth and initiate a new era of Creation, if the channeled writings of Ken Carey are to be believed. We humans, so the channeling says, will be the 'brain cells' of a biological starship. But to participate in this endeavour requires letting the Creator be your guide. Is it a good Creator or a bad Creator? 

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

I don't think that physical matter can become conscious, but it can be a host for a conscious mind, in the same way that the human body is a vessel for us conscious minds. 

 

A man-made robot could theoretically be such a host. 

Consciousness is a broadcast frequency wave from the cloud, and this flesh stuff picks up that wave and turns it into real-time data regarding the environment and our bodies interacting

 

if you had different genetic material (body) like say that of a hover fly or a cat, would those genes be hosting the same consciousness (you)? 
 

There are stories of how dead people end up reincarnating into animals that become their late relatives pets.

I don’t know what I’m trying to say here

 

[Grumpy Grapes]

2 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Consciousness is a broadcast frequency wave from the cloud, and this flesh stuff picks up that wave and turns it into real-time data regarding the environment and our bodies interacting

 

if you had different genetic material (body) like say that of a hover fly or a cat, would those genes be hosting the same consciousness (you)? 
 

There are stories of how dead people end up reincarnating into animals that become their late relatives pets.

I don’t know what I’m trying to say here

 

 

Are you saying that physical bodies are like filters? Wear rose-tinted spectacles and the world appears rose-tinted. 

[xpwales]

25 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

Is it a good Creator or a bad Creator? 

Or maybe neither, maybe it just wants to explore all possibilities with no bias to good nor bad.

[xpwales]

27 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

There are stories of how dead people end up reincarnating into animals that become their late relatives pets.

If this is true, then we could ask ourselves what is it that causes the deceased's soul to reincarnate into the pet?

Is it the pet owners will/want/longing that attracts that soul into the pet?

Or is it the will of the deceased's soul that caused the attachment?

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

19 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

Are you saying that physical bodies are like filters? Wear rose-tinted spectacles and the world appears rose-tinted. 

 

18 hours ago, xpwales said:

If this is true, then we could ask ourselves what is it that causes the deceased's soul to reincarnate into the pet?

Is it the pet owners will/want/longing that attracts that soul into the pet?

Or is it the will of the deceased's soul that caused the attachment?

Good questions, I’ll try to get back to you on them as I was fairly drunk and stoned writing that reply. I don’t even know what I’m on about, made sense after a bevvy and a bifter! 

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

On 12/31/2023 at 7:07 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

Are you saying that physical bodies are like filters? Wear rose-tinted spectacles and the world appears rose-tinted. 

Kind of…..

On 12/31/2023 at 7:38 PM, xpwales said:

If this is true, then we could ask ourselves what is it that causes the deceased's soul to reincarnate into the pet?

Is it the pet owners will/want/longing that attracts that soul into the pet?

Or is it the will of the deceased's soul that caused the attachment?

Probably a mixture of all three.

 

If a vacancy came up in an electromagnetic space that needed filling, in this case the consciousness of a domesticated animal, and the deceaseds was so strong it was still hanging around, or maybe it was the will of the deceased’s partner,

any way you choose to look at it, the universe took care of three or four problems involving three or more sentient beings by letting them travel the path of least resistance 
 

The power to shape reality with our minds/will?
 

 

[xpwales]

5 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

path of least resistance

Agreed.

It could also be seen as restoration of an imbalance/division, or a unification.

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

14 hours ago, xpwales said:

Agreed.

It could also be seen as restoration of an imbalance/division, or a unification.

Nice