Did WWI & II Soldiers Create The Mess We Live In Today?

[2020member]

Common phrases: 

 

"They would be spinning in their graves"

"They died for our rights"

"They died defending this country"

 

Problem: Germans have gone rogue. We are at imminent risk of invasion. 

 

Reaction: Millions of strong, brave, predominantly white Christian men who were the backbone of Europe all get deleted or left too traumatized to exist within the span of 30 years. 

 

Solution: A weak vulnerable generation of "baby boomers" are left to rebuild the country. A total carefree attitude and booming economy leaves an entire generation thinking butter wouldn't melt with their own government. They lay the foundations for unfettered immigration, the total breakdown of the family home, the deconstruction of Christian values and the belief system of an ever-shifting Overton window. 

 

*Disclaimer: The levels of propaganda used to lure millions of European brothers and sisters to their deaths cannot be underestimated. These were undoubtedly brave, courageous and patriotic people. However I do believe they were duped just as badly as those who are now on their 5th booster. 

 

 

 

[webtrekker]

I agree with the sentiments expressed in yout post, but I think the title is misleading. I think most of us know the soldiers themselves weren't to blame. However, I doubt the docile sheep of today, or even us who are fully awake, would fight for 'King and Country' these days. It's everyone for themselves now.

 

 

 

[2020member]

@webtrekker yes, admittedly it was a slightly inflammatory title. But I wanted to create debate around the point that for the common people, whether that be german, English, french, Dutch, polish etc. there were no winners of those two wars. Only losers for us common folk. Did these brave soldiers unwittingly and inadvertently lay the foundations for the total destruction and dismantling of the west? 

[Campion]

2 hours ago, 2020member said:

Problem: Germans have gone rogue. We are at imminent risk of invasion. 

 

The UK could have decided to remain neutral in both wars, but imo it would probably been at the expense of losing the empire (which happened afterwards anyway so was already planned). Germany didn't declare war on the UK first, we gave Germany ultimatums in both wars which Germany ignored and we declared war on them. Perhaps we would have been invaded later on, but in the early stages Hitler hoped he had enough support over here for us to keep out of it. WW1 was basically a war between imperialists in Britain, Austria-Hungary and France etc where the ordinary people were cannon fodder. 

 

2 hours ago, 2020member said:

Reaction: Millions of strong, brave, predominantly white Christian men who were the backbone of Europe all get deleted or left too traumatized to exist within the span of 30 years. 

 

Yes. 

 

2 hours ago, 2020member said:

Solution: A weak vulnerable generation of "baby boomers" are left to rebuild the country. A total carefree attitude and booming economy leaves an entire generation thinking butter wouldn't melt with their own government. They lay the foundations for unfettered immigration, the total breakdown of the family home, the deconstruction of Christian values and the belief system of an ever-shifting Overton window. 

 

Yes, agreed, but those WW2 men were the children of the WW1 veterans, so why the difference? The 'roaring twenties' was a boom time, there was the Weimar Republic which represented decadence and cultural deconstruction of the modernist movements, but it all ended in the great depression. So maybe WW1 and its aftermath was the Illuminati's first attempt at destroying the white western civilisation but it overreached and failed, and they tried again with WW2, followed by all the cultural weakening projects you mention and more. If it doesn't go according to plan this time, then will we have WW3 to make sure?

Edited November 16 by Campion

[2020member]

4 minutes ago, Campion said:

The UK could have decided to remain neutral in both wars, but it imo would probably been at the expense of losing the empire. Germany didn't declare war on the UK, we gave Germany ultimatums in both wars which Germany ignored and we declared war on them. Perhaps we would have been invaded later on, but in the early stages Hitler hoped he had enough support over here for us to keep out of it. WW1 was basically a war between imperialists in Britain, Austria-Hungary and France etc where the ordinary people were cannon fodder. 

 

I think that might be going slightly too far into the macro rather than the micro. The average German foot soldier would have been no different to the average British foot soldier in terms of morals, values and patriotism. They were equally hoodwinked into laying their lives on the line. The whole Franz Ferdinand debacle was all manufactured and orchestrated by the cabal. As were all the other main events that carried both those wars right through to the bitter end. 

 

Keep in mind Germany and England were probably in the region of 97/98% white Christian European at the time. So would have been extremely similar peoples barring local cultural nuances. 

 

Slightly outlandish comment. But I'd rather be invaded by an army which are representative of about 90% of my culture. Than a muslamic caliphate which want to not only invade, but totally decimate and destroy everything this country stands for 

 

Don't get me wrong though. I do understand the Germans were being used as pawns just as our army were. And if they had invaded the UK, no doubt we wouldn't be far off the mess we are in today. 

 

 

 

[Campion]

2 hours ago, 2020member said:

I think that might be going slightly too far into the macro rather than the micro. The average German foot soldier would have been no different to the average British foot soldier in terms of morals, values and patriotism. They were equally hoodwinked into laying their lives on the line. The whole Franz Ferdinand debacle was all manufactured and orchestrated by the cabal. As were all the other main events that carried both those wars right through to the bitter end. 

 

Yup, some things don't change, fast forward a few generations and we had 9/11 to start off wars in Afghanistan and the middle east. 

 

2 hours ago, 2020member said:

Keep in mind Germany and England were probably in the region of 97/98% white Christian European at the time. So would have been extremely similar peoples barring local cultural nuances. 

 

Slightly outlandish comment. But I'd rather be invaded by an army which are representative of about 90% of my culture. Than a muslamic caliphate which want to not only invade, but totally decimate and destroy everything this country stands for 

 

Yeah, they like those brother wars where strong civilisations essentially have a civil war within their own culture, and have to borrow lots of money from the bankers to pay for it. Even demoralised us enough to open the doors for the caliphate to come in. 

 

Westerners have a short memory, the Muslims tried conquering Europe all through the middle ages and partially succeeded until the Moors and Ottomans were driven out. I'm sure the Muslim countries wouldn't be happy being demographically replaced by white Westerners either, but there's not much danger of that while we're too degenerate to breed and grow ourselves. 

 

 

Edited November 16 by Campion

[2020member]

On 11/16/2023 at 4:18 PM, Campion said:

Westerners have a short memory, the Muslims tried conquering Europe all through the middle ages and partially succeeded until the Moors and Ottomans were driven out. I'm sure the Muslim countries wouldn't be happy being demographically replaced by white Westerners either, but there's not much danger of that while we're too degenerate to breed and grow ourselves. 

 

You have thoroughly hit the nail on the head

[bamboozooka]

ww1 ww2 soldiers were docile sheep just like the soldiers of today

[Fluke]

On 11/16/2023 at 11:11 AM, webtrekker said:

I agree with the sentiments expressed in yout post, but I think the title is misleading. I think most of us know the soldiers themselves weren't to blame. However, I doubt the docile sheep of today, or even us who are fully awake, would fight for 'King and Country' these days. It's everyone for themselves now.

 

 

 

The question is though who would we be fighting for if there was an invasion? Other than our own tribes, who would want to fight for this government.

Edited Saturday at 01:26 PM by Fluke