Disconnection/Social Isolation?

[Lonalove]

Hi, I'm Lori. New here...and just wondering if I'm the only one struggling with the social isolation of holding views outside of the mainstream? How have you found connection? Ever since covid, and my refusal to get the shot, I became the outsider. Very liberal family and friends. Very liberal workplace. I'm "that girl" in these spaces. So I don't speak freely. I sometimes try to challenge with questions...doesn't really work. My world view has been upended in every way, and I consider that a good thing. I'm grateful for covid, in that it woke me up on a level that is beyond what I would have ever imagined. But it's A LOT for one person to cope with such major changes, and it's taken me into territory I had previously refused to touch - like freaking aliens. I've always said that I'm not so arrogant to believe that we're alone, but coming up against information that makes that look just completely undeniable? WTF?? It's just a lot. Ya know? 

[Anti Facts Sir]

Welcome Lori. Yeah it can be a lot to take in and process at first, when you start to realise things aren't what you thought they were.

 

 

[Bombadil]

Welcome!

 

I get through it all by not giving a monkeys. I have a core group who I will die for. People such as members here as well as family. The rest can sleep walk into oblivion.

[webtrekker]

1 hour ago, Lonalove said:

Hi, I'm Lori. New here...and just wondering if I'm the only one struggling with the social isolation of holding views outside of the mainstream? How have you found connection? Ever since covid, and my refusal to get the shot, I became the outsider. Very liberal family and friends. Very liberal workplace. I'm "that girl" in these spaces. So I don't speak freely. I sometimes try to challenge with questions...doesn't really work. My world view has been upended in every way, and I consider that a good thing. I'm grateful for covid, in that it woke me up on a level that is beyond what I would have ever imagined. But it's A LOT for one person to cope with such major changes, and it's taken me into territory I had previously refused to touch - like freaking aliens. I've always said that I'm not so arrogant to believe that we're alone, but coming up against information that makes that look just completely undeniable? WTF?? It's just a lot. Ya know? 

 

Hi Lori. Much as I believe myself to be 'awake,' I find that even after all these years the jury is still out on topics like Aliens, Religion, Reptiles and other weirdness. Each to their own though.

 

I'm content in the thought that at least I managed to convince my wife, daughter and granddaughters not to take the injectable bioweapons and they are now grateful for that.

 

Nil desperandum!

 

 

 

[Campion]

Welcome, and yes I know what you mean, I'm not completely open about all this even at home, instead I drip feed family and friends with some more obvious points. Like, why bother having a booster jab when I've already had covid this year? 

 

I take heart that there are other countries where people are more sceptical of official narratives than ours, and with good reason - the middle east is an example. And that surveys show that there's a lot of us around. Even so, the Guardian tries to spin this into an anti-brexit rant. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/23/study-shows-60-of-britons-believe-in-conspiracy-theories 

 

So there must be a lot of self-censorship going on. 

Edited October 28, 2023 by Campion

[Lonalove]

On 10/27/2023 at 5:02 PM, webtrekker said:

 

Hi Lori. Much as I believe myself to be 'awake,' I find that even after all these years the jury is still out on topics like Aliens, Religion, Reptiles and other weirdness. Each to their own though.

 

I'm content in the thought that at least I managed to convince my wife, daughter and granddaughters not to take the injectable bioweapons and they are now grateful for that.

 

Nil desperandum!

 

 

 

That is no small victory, and so good to hear. My partner took it, and one booster. I fought. I yelled, I cried, I pleaded to please stop taking it. To no avail. Now she sees and  hasn't taken any more of them. But what will they do over time? I know I'm not alone in trying to manage the anxiety of people I love most in the world having this shit in their bodies...there is a whole layer of psychological warfare going on in that realm that people don't seem to talk about much.  

[Lonalove]

On 10/28/2023 at 3:28 AM, Campion said:

Welcome, and yes I know what you mean, I'm not completely open about all this even at home, instead I drip feed family and friends with some more obvious points. Like, why bother having a booster jab when I've already had covid this year? 

 

I take heart that there are other countries where people are more sceptical of official narratives than ours, and with good reason - the middle east is an example. And that surveys show that there's a lot of us around. Even so, the Guardian tries to spin this into an anti-brexit rant. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/23/study-shows-60-of-britons-believe-in-conspiracy-theories 

 

So there must be a lot of self-censorship going on. 

I hear you. I also think you're right. The self-censorship, I think and feel in my gut, is off the charts. I keep thinking we're really gonna get a real sense of that reality the closer we get to the election... 

[Certified Green of Heart]

Welcomes..... Isolation in these matters is creepy or was more so during lockdowns, and not a nice bloody feeling, and it must be even worse when people close to you take no notice of your pleas and warnings. Incensement and powerlessness must be how it feels and with the emotion involved... as in Why The F is nobody listening, as it may well feel like locally (as locally is maybe where we spend most of our lives some of us), especially if even ordinarily you didn't /or/ don't go out in among the crowds much like me for more than doing my shopping & exercize, but I don't go to a gym for that as heavy breathing people in a confined space is just another no-no the way I see it, and so are vapers.. (health hazard to be near)... 

 

Would you happen to be as alert to how I am in these areas, because of alleged Shedding and such worries...... I mean it's no fun day out living your life these days, so you have to manage it open-mindedly, and also to remember to maintain hobby side interests to keep your mind going OTT off the rails.

 

Edited October 30, 2023 by Certified Green of Heart

[Certified Green of Heart]

I would like to enquire something just putting word out again, since that's how we become less fffffff---ing isolated.... sooo... I wish to know Anymore isolation peeps out there, still stuck in mental or physical no-man-land (speaking as literal as you like) and which also includes any level of severity of the dis-communicated in general in affairs where we would assume common interest??

To this cause of however your or my circumstances play out, you can interpret very simply, the motivation is simple: Be less alone... To reconnect with life, and people in general, likewise, there included is never a lost cause!

 

Don't suffer alone, and know you don't have think or act alone either!.......

Edited January 4, 2024 by Certified Green of Heart

[Eagle Eye]

On 10/27/2023 at 3:52 PM, Lonalove said:

I'm grateful

My dear Lonalove,

 

So glad you are finding gratitude! There is an exercise I can share with you that should help. I hope you get an email about this post

 

Perhaps you don’t have to feel so isolated. So first step is to identify your feelings and the reason behind them.
 

Step one: what is your situation? You mentioned family, friends, and workplace, wow triple doozy. And you contend no one shares your views on certain matters in current events.

 

Step two: how does your situation make you feel? You already expressed your feelings about it, though it’s good to identify them.

 

Step three:  Lonalove, do you actually know this to be completely true? Not even one person in your circles is more like you? Be honest with yourself.

 

Honest answer- doubtful. Why doubtful? How good are you at mind reading? 100% spot on at all times?

 

Step four: stating the opposite from step one. We can do that here- Lonalove, there are individuals within your family, friends, and workplace who would share your views, should they understand them more fully.

 

Step five: How does this idea make you feel? Logically, you must be able to recognize truth there, or at least allow room for it to be true. You do this by holding onto hope. Focus on the hope that your loved ones and colleagues will eventually come around, at least some of them.

 

(that’s the exercise. I learned it some 20 years ago from listening to neuroscientist lectures.)

 

You asked about how folks are coping during social isolation. One thing that has helped me before- to learn about other people through books or documentaries. Another practice that I have enjoyed is what I call compassion exercises. You learn about what is going on in the world around you, and you try to put yourself in other people shoes. By doing so, it allows you to actually consider what other people go through instead of just focusing on yourself. It helps you develop compassion for others. And you don’t have to actually interact with other people in order to do this.

 

One example of this would be, sit on the ground like a homeless person outside and think about what you would actually do if you had to be homeless. Of course, the whole time you have your own gratitude for the bed that you have to sleep in that night. So it’s not like you’re scaring yourself or anything. It helps you develop compassion for other people.

 

There’s a documentary about David Icke that I really enjoyed, and if I can find it again I will share it with you.

 

If you’re looking for more socialization, you can always find a hobby locally that puts you in touch with people who are like you at least in some ways.

 

Here’s to your health and happiness

 

 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2024 by Eagle Eye
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[Eagle Eye]

On 10/27/2023 at 3:52 PM, Lonalove said:

I don't speak freely. I sometimes try to challenge with questions...doesn't really work.

LL, if I may call you that for short, I hope that you do continue to speak up - with tact and timing, certainty. Perhaps if you work on your one liners. You know? That one quick statement that cuts right to the core. Sometimes people just need solid reasoning to see important things.

 

It takes patience, loads of it, though loving your family is always worth it. You essentially give up your own life, in order to live for them- to help them, protect them. You have to hang in there and keep speaking up! I have known from day one to stay away from the jabbing. And as things unfold, we keep seeing more reasons to make a stand for our rights. 
 

 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2024 by Eagle Eye
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[RobinJ]

Well the thing about folks treating anyone like an odd man out, is that they are operating from fear and simply don't realise it.

Its fear on many levels; social exclusion, being different, of thinking outside the box and loss of friends etc which is at the root.

What I find is that even those who claim to think you are a nutter (or other well known phrases,) really aren't as dense as they make out about what the world really is. Its just that they are too scared to change or speak up or be different. 

 

All it takes is a few well planted mind seeds dropped into conversation now and then.

 

I've often had dissenters claim one thing to my face and something completely different when no others are around.

Letting go of fear is the root of the whole problem.

Just look at all the celebrities ratting on each other now, its becoming a competition to expose the most info! Only takes a couple of brave souls to stand by their truth to change things. 

Most people just need a fearless leader... because thats the programming.

[Bombadil]

13 hours ago, Eagle Eye said:

LL, if I may call you that for short, I hope that you do continue to speak up - with tact and timing, certainty. Perhaps if you work on your one liners. You know? That one quick statement that cuts right to the core. Sometimes people just need solid reasoning to see important things.

 

It takes patience, loads of it, though loving your family is always worth it. You essentially give up your own life, in order to live for them- to help them, protect them. You have to hang in there and keep speaking up! I have known from day one to stay away from the jabbing. And as things unfold, we keep seeing more reasons to make a stand for our rights. 
 

 

 

 

Do your first quote then before pressing reply, highlight the next bit you want to quote. It will appear where you left your flashing cursor.

[Eagle Eye]

5 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Do your first quote then before pressing reply, highlight the next bit you want to quote. It will appear where you left your flashing cursor.

Thanks. Mucked around with it. Giving it a little test.

 

14 hours ago, RobinJ said:

often had dissenters claim one thing to my face and something completely different when no others are around.

I know what you mean. This kind of thing happens to people like us- People secretly telling us things, so very obviously afraid of what others would think of them.

 

Interesting to note that DI talks about completely letting go of this fear. I have experienced it to a degree- self consciousness over how others view me. I don’t like to sit in emotions that I don’t care for. Fear is one of them. Why allow myself to feel fear, if I have no reason to be… And yes, so many things are sad, horrific even. We have to stay strong! 

 

Where’s a good medical law library when you need one? An assault on mankind has been happening, and is continuing to happen in the form of fake inoculations.

 

Please be well, my dear LL!!

 

[RobinJ]

Fear is the root of all the programming of humanity. Often its disguised as other psychological stuff, but its fear in reality.

Life becomes a lot calmer if you can retrain yourself to let it go.

The way I did it was to, as I call it, talk myself back from the ledge. Reasoned with myself if what I was thinking was likely and to play out the "what if this happens" to its natural end.

 

A good trick also is to wear a loose elastic band around around your wrist. Every time you witness your negative thoughts you give that band a twang. The pain snaps your brain out of the loop. If you can then replace that thought with a positive spin you start to reprogram your brain processing patterns.

After a few repetitions you start to be in control of your thoughts instead of them controlling you.