numnuts Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) One way or the other, at the end of the day, the Israeli state will not be paying the full bill for all of this. Furthermore, it will at least save Captain Pubehad from showing his true colours. Even if only for a while... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpvne94v1rdo 'Biden plans to send $8bn arms shipment to Israel.' The US Department of State has notified Congress of a planned $8bn (£6.4bn) arms sale to Israel, an American official has confirmed to the BBC. The weapons consignment, which needs approval from House and Senate committees, includes missiles, shells and other munitions. The move comes just over a fortnight before President Joe Biden leaves office. Washington has rejected calls to suspend military backing for Israel because of the number of civilians killed during the war in Gaza. In August, the US approved the sale of $20bn in fighter jets and other military equipment to Israel. The latest planned shipment contains air-to-air missiles, Hellfire missiles, artillery shells and bombs, the US official said. Edited January 9 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seconal Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Why are Western Liberals openly supporting Hamas? Is it just rebellion against the perceived corporate patriarchy and the desire to shock society by expressing such opposing views, or is simply due to lack of empathy and understanding. In short, have they been fooled by organised groups into becoming a controlled opposition. Edited January 11 by Seconal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seconal Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Are you a traitor if you support a terrorist group. How can free speech protect terrorist supporters, but not subjectively offensive speech. 'There's something rotten in the high places'. Edited January 11 by Seconal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Seconal said: Are you a traitor if you support a terrorist group. How can free speech protect terrorist supporters, but not subjectively offensive speech. 'There's something rotten in the high places'. If we are talking about the uk, then offensive speech is protected, at least in person, on line it's a bit more complicated, there is case law to say so. The problem is the ptb are commonly enforcing a legal standard that doesnt exist, on people who dont have the money to fight a court battle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seconal Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) I've coined a new term 'FAZI' (fat-zee), its a Fascist Socialist. Edited January 11 by Seconal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Seconal said: I've coined a new term 'FAZI' (fat-zee), its a Fascist Socialist. Historical point, fascism was always socialist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seconal Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) The poor thought socialism was their victory over the capitalism of the rich, but in truth socialism was imposed upon the poor by the rich. I've always said that the true division in society is 'they are rich you are poor, they are untied, you are divided, they rule and you obey. Race, sex, culture etc are but petty divisions in the face of this wealth and power divide'. Yet, I have measured sympathy for the relative poor, for as locusts they would consume and destroy everything if given the power to do so, most peoples actions are tempered by fear of police, courts and prisons, remove these consequences and we would see that the common man dreams only of power and destruction, for without true principles only great fear of consequences keep society lawful. I dredd that these irresponsible liberals gain true power, for in times of conflict the ideological youth can become truly inhuman, if allowed... Edited January 11 by Seconal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, Seconal said: The poor thought socialism was their victory over the capitalism of the rich, but in truth socialism was imposed upon the poor by the rich. I've always said that the true division in society is 'they are rich you are poor, they are untied, you are divided, they rule and you obey. Race, sex, culture etc are but petty divisions in the face of this wealth and power divide'. Yet, I have measured sympathy for the relative poor, for as locusts they would consume and destroy everything if given the power to do so, most peoples actions are tempered by fear of police, courts and prisons, remove these consequences and we would see that the common man dreams only of power and destruction, for without true principles only great fear of consequences keep society lawful. I dredd that these irresponsible liberals gain true power, for in times of conflict the ideological youth can become truly inhuman, if allowed... It depends, socialism has a habit of being poor people sharing their wealth with poorer people, communism has the habit of putting the poorer people in labour camps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mazthehobo Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Israel has agreed a peace deal to start Sunday. How much terror can they commit in the next day or so? Let’s see….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 10/14/2024 at 1:31 AM, Mazthehobo said: Israel showing no respect for the UN either. At the minute I think it’s 5 UN personnel have been injured by Israeli terror attacks, but no deaths…. Yet. When that happens what will the UN do? Nothing as f..king usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clykrvp1g83o 'Corbyn and McDonnell face police interview after pro-Palestinian rally.' MPs Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell have agreed to be interviewed under caution by police following a pro-Palestinian rally in central London on Saturday, the BBC understands. The former Labour leader, 75, and former shadow chancellor, 73, will voluntarily attend a police station in the capital as the Metropolitan Police investigates what it says was a coordinated effort by organisers to breach conditions imposed on the event. They will be interviewed on Sunday afternoon. Nine other people have been charged with public order offences following arrests at the protest organised by the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC). The Met said 24 people had also been bailed and 48 remain in custody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seconal Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 When its Whitehall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Quelle surprise! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czeprnw4repo 'Deadline for Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon expires, but troops will stay.' The deadline for the Israeli withdrawal from southern Lebanon expired early on Sunday, but troops will remain in some areas as Israel says a ceasefire deal with Hezbollah has not been fully implemented. The 60-day agreement, which was brokered by the US and France and put an end to 14 months of conflict, stipulated the withdrawal of Israeli troops from southern Lebanon and the removal of Hezbollah fighters and weapons from there. At the same time, thousands of Lebanese soldiers would be deployed to the area where, for decades, Hezbollah has been the dominant force. (So, that really means the troops will stay, until they have managed to steal some more land.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I find it astonishing to read all this, when taken in the context of what has gone on in Gaza, for the past 15 months or so. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8x195dnlro 'Holocaust survivors fear Europe is forgetting the lessons of Auschwitz.' Professor Lipstadt says Israel's military actions are often blamed on Jewish people in general. All Jews cannot be held responsible for the decisions of the government of Israel, she says. That is racism. (What would Professor Lipstadt call keeping quiet about the Palestinian genocide? Is Professor Lipstadt's genocide denial to do with the specific fact that the Israeli state is the perpetrator, in this instance? That would be racism, then.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete675 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 18 hours ago, numnuts said: I find it astonishing to read all this, when taken in the context of what has gone on in Gaza, for the past 15 months or so. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn8x195dnlro 'Holocaust survivors fear Europe is forgetting the lessons of Auschwitz.' Professor Lipstadt says Israel's military actions are often blamed on Jewish people in general. All Jews cannot be held responsible for the decisions of the government of Israel, she says. That is racism. (What would Professor Lipstadt call keeping quiet about the Palestinian genocide? Is Professor Lipstadt's genocide denial to do with the specific fact that the Israeli state is the perpetrator, in this instance? That would be racism, then.) Yes indeed, bit of a contrast between all the 98 year old 'holocaust survivors' and all the non-survivors in Gaza, many of them young children. It's a question that you are not supposed to ask, but doesn't the very existence of so many survivors - even today - go some way to disproving the official version? Or should we say - when some survivor finally dies aged 103 or so - that the Germans were really evil bastards and the aforementioned survivor would have made it to 150 without their malign efforts in the Holocaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, pete675 said: Yes indeed, bit of a contrast between all the 98 year old 'holocaust survivors' and all the non-survivors in Gaza, many of them young children. It's a question that you are not supposed to ask, but doesn't the very existence of so many survivors - even today - go some way to disproving the official version? Or should we say - when some survivor finally dies aged 103 or so - that the Germans were really evil bastards and the aforementioned survivor would have made it to 150 without their malign efforts in the Holocaust. Another contrast is with all the other holocausts and mass murders that rarely if ever get mentioned nowadays. Even if we restrict ourselves to the 20th century, most of us can probably name several others which don't receive anniversaries and memorials. Off the top of my head (and I'm no historian), there's the Armenia, Russian terror, Ukrainian holodomor, Rwanda, China's cultural revolution, Cambodia's Pol Pot (wiki has one of its lists with many more). I'm not saying the holocaust should be ignored but why not have a commemoration to cover them all if there's too many to do them separately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete675 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 27 minutes ago, Campion said: Another contrast is with all the other holocausts and mass murders that rarely if ever get mentioned nowadays. Even if we restrict ourselves to the 20th century, most of us can probably name several others which don't receive anniversaries and memorials. Off the top of my head (and I'm no historian), there's the Armenia, Russian terror, Ukrainian holodomor, Rwanda, China's cultural revolution, Cambodia's Pol Pot (wiki has one of its lists with many more). I'm not saying the holocaust should be ignored but why not have a commemoration to cover them all if there's too many to do them separately. Another that could be mentioned is the Bengal Famine of 1943, three or four million dead, caused by Churchill's diversion of food supplies. Nobody has even heard of the Bengal Famine, apart from specialist historians and 'conspiracy' minded individuals such as ourselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 they gonna soon run out of holocaust survivors im surprised there are any left so they need a big push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 The Israelis have long wanted to shut down UNRWA. Then, we get stories like this one. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj91ygv803xo 'British-Israeli hostage says Hamas held her at UN facilities.' A British-Israeli woman who was held hostage by Hamas in Gaza for 15 months says she was detained for some time at United Nations facilities. During a phone call with UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, Emily Damari - who was released earlier this month - said she was held at sites belonging to the UN's agency for Palestinian refugees (Unrwa). Israel has repeatedly accused personnel from Unrwa of being involved in the 7 October attacks and said that its buildings in Gaza were used by Hamas. The Israeli government plans to ban the organsiation from operating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazthehobo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Trump wants to kick the Palestinians out of palestine and refurbish the area turning it into a ‘riviera.’ The Palestinians will no doubt be happy with this proposal. Interestingly, if you reverse that a little and instead say “I want to kick out the Jews from Israel. Send them elsewhere. Turn Israel into a Middle Eastern Butlins.”…..uh oh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) This news article is from 9th February. So, the original plan was obviously to annex either north or south Gaza. After the Israeli mafia realised that they couldn't get away with it, then they must have concocted the insane 'U.S. to buy and rebuild Gaza' plan. For the benefit of the Palestinians, of course. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g3yyv4egeo 'Israel troops withdraw from corridor that split Gaza in two.' Israeli troops have withdrawn from the Netzarim Corridor - a military zone cutting off the north of the Gaza Strip from the south. Hundreds of Palestinians in cars and on carts laden with mattresses and other goods began returning to northern Gaza following the pull-out - often to scenes of utter destruction. The Israeli withdrawal is in line with the Israel-Hamas ceasefire agreement of 19 January under which 16 Israeli hostages and 566 Palestinian prisoners have so far been freed. Edited February 21 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just watched the Hamas 'hostage' release stage show on MSM. Could be in the nominations for an Oscar. Loved the Israeli families in star of david t-shirts in ecstatic celebrations and tears. Well done Polanski. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/22/2025 at 10:48 AM, Dragon Slayer said: Just watched the Hamas 'hostage' release stage show on MSM. Could be in the nominations for an Oscar. Loved the Israeli families in star of david t-shirts in ecstatic celebrations and tears. Anything to do with Israeli citizens, which is reported on by the MSM, is always cast in a joyous light. The staged interviews with the Tel Aviv morning joggers are what cracks me up the most. Now, it seems, we are back to the usual 'Everything connected to Israel is under continual attack' stories. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr72nrzjj5no 'Man injured in attack at Berlin Holocaust memorial.' A man has been seriously injured in a knife attack near Berlin's Holocaust memorial, German media is reporting. The incident took place at around 18:00 local time (17:00 GMT), police said on X, adding that investigations into what happened "are ongoing". According to Tagesspiegel newspaper, officers had cordoned off the site and were carrying out a search. Police spokesman Florian Nath was quoted by German tabloid Bild as saying "the perpetrator is on the run" - and "the murder weapon has not yet been found". The man was reportedly injured with a sharp object and has been transported by the fire brigade to hospital. "Rescue workers are on site caring for several people who witnessed the events," the police statement on X added. The knife attack appears to have taken place on the northern side of the memorial - opposite which sits the US Embassy. It is not yet clear what caused the attack or if the assailant has been apprehended. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydln190xqo 'Three buses explode in Israel in suspected terror attack, police say.' Three buses have exploded in Bat Yam, south of Tel Aviv, in what Israeli police say is a suspected terror attack. Devices in two other buses failed to explode, they said, adding that "large police forces are at the scenes, searching for suspects". Transport Minister Miri Regev paused all buses, trains and light rail trains in the country so that checks for explosive devices could be carried out, Israeli media reports said. Footage on social media shows at least one bus on fire in a parking lot, with a large plume of smoke rising above. There have been no reports of casualties at this stage, police said. (Hmm...) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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