Conflict in Israel 2023

[legion]

3 minutes ago, legion said:

 

The End of Western Pluralist Democracy 36

September 1, 2024  in Uncategorized by craig

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No major western leader is ever again going to be able to speak about human rights or ethical values, without attracting howls of derision. They are turning on their own people in order to prevent protest at a genocide they actively support.

Keir Starmer stepped up the pressure on opponents of Zionist genocide on Thursday with the arrest of journalist Sarah Wilkinson and the charging of activist Richard Barnard, both under the draconian Section 12 of the Terrorism Act which carries a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

The UK MSM has of course ignored these, but is universally carrying outrage at the conviction of two Hong Kong activists for sedition, which carries a maximum sentence of … 2 years.

But they tell us it is China and not the UK which is the authoritarian dictatorship.

(To be plain, I do view the Hong Kong convictions as also an unwarranted interference with free speech. I merely point out the incredible hypocrisy of the British Establishment and far worse laws here).

Richard Barnard has been charged and will face trial, apparently related to public speeches supporting the Palestinian right to armed resistance.

Sarah Wilkinson was released on bail after about 14 hours. Like the recent arrest and bailing of Richard Medhurst, the arrest and bailing is a device to chill her reporting and activism.

The harassment of dissident journalists at ports, using the extensive powers of the Terrorism Act for questioning and confiscation of communications equipment, has become routine. I myself suffered detention, interrogation and confiscation of equipment for “terrorism” last October.

But the Sarah Wilkinson case is an escalation, in that this is a raid on a journalist whose home was invaded by 16 policemen at 7.30am, while she was arrested and taken to the police station as her home was comprehensively turned over, presumably looking for gunmen under the bed.

More details of the raid have come out which are scarcely believable. Armed counter-terrorism police wearing balaclavas were used against a peaceful, female journalist. She was manhandled and physically hurt. The ashes in her mother’s funerary urn were desecrated in a “search”. And Sarah’s bail conditions include that she may not use a computer or mobile telephone.

It is a fascist government that sends 16 police to bust a peaceful journalist at home at 7.30am.

Like the stopping of Richard Medhurst’s plane on the tarmac by police vehicles and his being dragged from the plane (which had just landed and was en route to the gate anyway) this is an authoritarian theatre of intimidation, a Nazi stamping of the violence of the state.

Richard Barnard is a co-founder of the brilliant Palestine Action, which has done so much to disrupt the Israeli arms industry in the UK as it continues to send vital equipment to carry out the mass destruction of civilians in Gaza.

 

Richard has been charged under Section 12 of the Terrorism Act over two speeches he made supporting the Palestinian resistance.

I have of course said this before, but it bears repeating:

Palestine has the legitimate right of self-defence against the illegal occupation.
The occupying power Israel has no right of self-defence. That is the plain position in international law.

Yet in the UK, it is legal to offer full-throated support to Israel’s genocide and to wish that all Palestinians are exterminated.

IDF participants in genocide happily move between Israel and the UK with no legal consequences.

Yet it is illegal to support certain Palestinian organisations when engaged in legal acts of armed resistance.

The state’s actions against activists have been ramped up – as I predicted – since Starmer came to power.

Five young activists in Glasgow were ten days ago given sentences ranging from 12 months to 24 months in prison for direct action against Thales weapons plant in Govan, which makes parts for Israel’s Watchkeeper drones, widely used against civilians in Gaza.

The sentences from Sheriff Judge McCormick were savage – far higher than would normally be given on the specified charges, which were of breach of the peace, vandalism, disorderly conduct and acting in an abusive manner.

These normally would attract at most a suspended sentence on a first offence. McCormick also ignored the Scottish government guidelines not to give custodial sentences of 24 months or less but to seek alternatives.

More tellingly, McCormick completely ignored the elephant in the room: the genocide in Gaza, which Thales are supplying.

(The fact the action occurred before the genocide should be properly viewed as a commendable act of prescience.)

The Zionist Starmerite Establishment were quick to crow over the jailing – notably Luke Akehurst and John Woodcock (who is laughably called Lord Walney nowadays and is the Government Adviser on political violence) who said “Activists considering breaking the law to get their way need to see there will be consequences”.

This follows similarly harsh sentencing of climate change activists, including those who merely took part in Zoom calls discussing direct action.

The authoritarian reaction of the threatened Zionist ruling class is a worldwide phenomenon. Redoubtable Australian journalist Mary Kostakidis has been ludicrously charged under hate speech laws for retweeting mainstream pro-Palestinian tweets.

American activist Professor Danny Shaw was turned over by the FBI on return to the USA following a trip which included speaking on a panel alongside me at the Palestine International Film Festival.

Also in the United States my friend Scott Ritter has been raided by the FBI and all his electronics and other materials confiscated.

I have spoken to Danny Shaw and to Richard Medhurst. In all of these arrests and detentions, including my own, the emphasis has been on confiscating electronics and on questioning focusing very strongly on contacts, meetings and sources of finance.

The Five Eyes intelligence services are plainly building up Venn diagrams of the democratic opposition to Zionism and the neoliberal project. It is notable that many of those recently arrested over Palestine – including Mary Kostakidis, Richard Medhurst, Scott Ritter and myself – were active in the campaign to free Julian Assange.

I have always maintained that Keir Starmer’s record shows that he will be an even bigger danger to civil liberties than the Tories. It is worth noting that all of the Tory recent draconian legislation – The Public Order Act, The National Security Act and even the Rwanda Act – was not opposed or was supported by Starmer as the pretend “Leader of the Opposition”.

Starmer and Cooper are continuing the Tory policy of challenging a High Court ruling won by Liberty, that Suella Braverman acted illegally in tabling secondary legislation lowering the threshold to ban a demonstration on grounds of inconvenience to the public.

The forthcoming Online Safety Act will be truly chilling, including making it illegal to publish what the government deems misinformation.

Starmer has always been MI5-controlled. The fact that, while a Tory government was in power, the Crown Prosecution Service destroyed all the key documentation revealing Starmer’s involvement in the Assange, Savile and Janner cases (the last being far more important than generally appreciated), shows the extent to which Starmer is a protected Deep State asset.

If we are to survive this descent onto fascism as a society, we need to be prepared to dissent now, and each of us needs to be prepared to go to jail if necessary.

A last word to Craig Mokhiber, the senior UN international lawyer who resigned in protest at UN pusillanimity in face of genocide:

 

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/09/the-end-of-western-pluralist-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-1067221 

 

 

@EnigmaticWorld

 

Latest blog posted very recently. 

 

Is this Murray inching closer to the realisation..? 

Is this Murray sticking the boot into the West..? (just governments and/or populations) 

Is this Murray scaring the remaining dissenters into silence..? 

Is this Murray helping draw out dissenters into the open..? 

Is this Murray risking his own liberty..? 

 

(interesting comments below the article as usual) 

[legion]

""It is with regret that I inform the House (of Commons, lower house of parliament) today the assessment I have received leaves me unable to conclude anything other than that for certain UK arms exports to Israel, there does exist a clear risk that they might be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law," Lammy said." (more in the link)  

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-says-it-is-suspending-30-its-350-arms-export-licences-israel-2024-09-02/ 

 

 

[Screamingeagle]

On 9/3/2024 at 1:00 PM, legion said:

It is with regret that I inform the House (of Commons, lower house of parliament) today the assessment I have received leaves me unable to conclude anything other than that for certain UK arms exports to Israel, there does exist a clear risk that they might be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law," Lammy said.

please the masters in every opportunity....

[legion]

8 hours ago, Screamingeagle said:

please the masters in every opportunity....

 

Interesting use of words you have highlighted. 

 

Why 'regret'...? 

That word is suplerflous to the basic statement. (or should be) 

 

 

 

[legion]

Mr Craig Murray has popped up on another channel.. 

 

UK friends of Israel / Gaza 

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/gdnI0hdHh9xh 

 

 

[legion]

Possible change coming.. 

 

" Can the World Save Palestine from US-Israeli Genocide?

On September 18th, the UN General Assembly is scheduled to debate and vote on a resolution calling on Israel to end “its unlawful presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory” within six months. Given that the General Assembly, unlike the exclusive 15-member UN Security Council, allows all UN members to vote and there is no veto in the General Assembly, this is an opportunity for the world community to clearly express its opposition to Israel’s brutal occupation of Palestine. "

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-likely-vote-next-week-push-end-israel-presence-palestinian-territory-2024-09-10/ 

 

https://www.globalresearch.ca/world-save-palestine-us-israeli-genocide/5868067 

 

 

[Campion]

3 hours ago, legion said:

Possible change coming..

 

Fair enough but there's a queue, several resolutions against Russian invasion of Ukraine but no effect yet. Then there's resolutions about the Sudan war, Yemen war, Burmese war etc etc.  They all show up how toothless the UN is at these times which is perhaps the point, paving the way for a world army. 

 

Edited September 17, 2024 by Campion

[Talorgan]

 

Likewise and again,

These  planted exploding radios in Lebanon should be condemned by  Western politicians

for what it is ,ie

mass  indiscriminate terrorist activity which is not going to help end the conflict 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2024 by Talorgan

[Campion]

3 hours ago, Talorgan said:

Likewise and again,

These  planted exploding radios in Lebanon should be condemned by  Western politicians

for what it is ,ie

mass  indiscriminate terrorist activity which is not going to help end the conflict 

 

I agree, and for most conflicts and wars our leaders are clear in calling for ceasefires and negotiated peace settlements. The middle east is an exception though, people have got in hot water calling for immediate ceasefire in Gaza and now there's a rather lukewarm response to the latest attacks in Lebanon. 

[legion]

On 9/17/2024 at 10:47 PM, Campion said:

there's a queue

 

Indeed, there is..

 

On 9/17/2024 at 6:54 PM, legion said:

unlike the exclusive 15-member UN Security Council, allows all UN members to vote and there is no veto in the General Assembly

 

Still toothless as you say. 

 

On 9/18/2024 at 5:07 PM, Talorgan said:

mass  indiscriminate terrorist activity which is not going to help end the conflict

 

No one in power wants an end to the conflict. 

 

On 9/18/2024 at 8:31 PM, Campion said:

The middle east is an exception

 

 

Perhaps because of the IDF patch I posted before..? 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2024 by legion
Reasons

[Mitochondrial Eve]

I could be wrong but something smells off with this alleged Greater Israel patch and I would like to know the original source.

 

How do we know the image is not photoshopped? And, even if it is real, how do we know that the badge was not self commissioned by an extreme right / fringe member of the IDF (after all it is a one-off)?

 

I am not saying that I trust Ryan McBeth, but nevertheless I feel his points are worthy of consideration. He has made a video which calls into question the authenticity of this image and has posted about it on Substack too.

 

Apparently the first Twitter image of the alleged patch is the one below but there is no original source provided and McBeth doesn't trust Twitter / X imagery because the "compression is horrible" and "heavy" due to the sheer number of images that are processed daily.

 

McBeth further comments on Israel's "lack of expeditionary capability" and the inability to find the patch for sale. He also makes some points about "the lack of a concept of 'A promised land of Israel' in the Jewish religion" but this is disputed by several commenters and I feel is less reliable as a point.

 

He claims that the image was subsequently spread by a "bot network" all over Twitter / X which raises suspicions.

 

Before accepting the image as genuine, perhaps some due diligence is needed?

 

https://ryanmcbeth.substack.com/p/is-this-greater-israel-patch-real

 

 

 

[legion]

Pretty sure I first saw it in a video clip and then found it in a post on Telegram. 

The video I saw was probably a few weeks ago now. 

I'll try to find it at some point over the weekend. 

 

It could be that some elitist forces only are wearing them, unsanctioned. 

Regardless - they seem to be real enough for me at the moment. 

 

Ties in with Israeli air strikes and terror campaigns in neighbouring countries. 

 

 

[Screamingeagle]

15 minutes ago, legion said:

Pretty sure I first saw it in a video clip and then found it in a post on Telegram.

with today`s tech (even public one ) that is easy to edit,fake it.....i would say the biggest clue is that the half of UAE is marked ,they are not  going in there in the near future.

 

[legion]

24 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said:

with today`s tech (even public one ) that is easy to edit,fake it.....i would say the biggest clue is that the half of UAE is marked ,they are not  going in there in the near future.

 

 

If the map is a plan, then it's not short term. 

Look at how long it's taken to get Israel to where it is today. 

 

Israel expanding north looks real enough as the next stage. 

 

Who knows how the end of the Petro-Dollar is going to pan out with BRICS growing in force..? How is this going to change USA relationship with SA. We know how quickly USA can change it's stance on certain countries / regimes

Because it's going to be USA military doing all / most of the dirty work. 

 

 

 

[legion]

29 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said:

with today`s tech (even public one ) that is easy to edit,fake it.....i would say the biggest clue is that the half of UAE is marked ,they are not  going in there in the near future.

 

 

There were several soldiers in the video I recall seeing. It was a video from a phone. 

[Screamingeagle]

1 minute ago, legion said:

 

There were several soldiers in the video I recall seeing. It was a video from a phone. 

maybe crisis actors ,have you seen that girl who praises the beeper attack,i bet my bikes that she was acting,no way that was spontaneous!!

[Mazthehobo]

I keep thinking that something big must happen soon…

Not because I’m doing a vague Nostradamus prediction… but….

 

This is all very boring now. Planes flying into buildings got my attention. Scores of beheadings got my attention etc…. And to an extent exploding phones has got my attention but my point is we have been so desensitised to death and destruction that missiles being exchanged (even when they land on schools or UN refugee centres) doesn’t grab attention enough.

 

It was the same technique with covid. Media used fake images of people collapsing in China and then Italy, and then scared us with daily death counts until by the time the omicron (I think) came along people just didn’t rush out to get the jab. The fear factor had diminished.

 

And, for me at least, it’s the same with israel and Ukraine. 
They have invaded. They have bombed. Innocent folk have been killed. Rinse and repeat. 
 

Gotta do something big to keep the attention. 
 

What will happen? Nuke would be an obvious choice, but maybe something like a hostage situation on a cruise ship somewhere, or a wave of terrorists rampaging through the city (like Paris a while back). Something to make it all feel a lot closer to home.

 

Maybe even a theme park massacre. 
 

Anyway, you get my drift. Just thinking out loud….

 

Enjoy your day!

[Campion]

It looks like the cult brotherhood wants to open up a second front in Lebanon / Northern Israel and expand the war, perhaps bringing in Iran too. Just as there's a new front opened up with the Ukraine war in Kursk. They are heating up the wars for some reason, and I expect some more developments when the new US president is sworn in. 

[legion]

On 9/20/2024 at 6:10 PM, legion said:

 

Perhaps because of the IDF patch I posted before..? 

 

 

 

I haven't found the video that I believe I saw with an IDF soldier wearing this patch.

 

What I did find was an Israeli MM article putting the idea forwards of invasion and expansion to the North..  

 

A gift given to the Jewish people

He highlighted that Lebanon was part of the Land of Israel and was given to the Jewish people by God, citing verses that claimed that the Land of Israel stretched until the Euphrates River. "In our generation, God gives us the ability to receive the gift [of Israel] again, to conquer and settle the land."

 

"Today it is clear that the time has come to conquer the Lebanese territories as well, only in this way can the threat be removed and true peace brought to the entire country. After the conquest and expulsion of the hostile population, a Jewish settlement must be established, thus completing the victory." 

 

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-821752 

 

 

[Mazthehobo]

Why don’t Lebanon or any of the Israeli Resistance fire more than one missile at a time?

 

It seems they fire one missile and a dozen drones which mostly get intercepted. If they fired, say 50, I dunno, might be a bit more successful.

 

But then again I’m a lover, not a fighter. 

[Mazthehobo]

6 hours ago, legion said:

 

I haven't found the video that I believe I saw with an IDF soldier wearing this patch.

 

What I did find was an Israeli MM article putting the idea forwards of invasion and expansion to the North..  

 

A gift given to the Jewish people

He highlighted that Lebanon was part of the Land of Israel and was given to the Jewish people by God, citing verses that claimed that the Land of Israel stretched until the Euphrates River. "In our generation, God gives us the ability to receive the gift [of Israel] again, to conquer and settle the land."

 

"Today it is clear that the time has come to conquer the Lebanese territories as well, only in this way can the threat be removed and true peace brought to the entire country. After the conquest and expulsion of the hostile population, a Jewish settlement must be established, thus completing the victory." 

 

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-821752 

 

 

THe chief rabbi sounds a bit like a terrorist. His logic is similar to 

“If we kill all homosexuals then homophobia will be no more!”

 

 

[Screamingeagle]

some religious nutcase calling for war,killing.......i have seen that many times ,no surprises there 

[Seconal]

On 9/27/2024 at 4:32 PM, Mazthehobo said:

Why don’t Lebanon or any of the Israeli Resistance fire more than one missile at a time?

 

It seems they fire one missile and a dozen drones which mostly get intercepted. If they fired, say 50, I dunno, might be a bit more successful.

 

But then again I’m a lover, not a fighter. 

 

I assume that they don't have enough missile launchers despite having many missiles. And despite being a 'lover not a fighter', your mind has contemplated war.

Edited September 30, 2024 by Seconal

[Mr H]

All kicking off again...

 

I'm actually getting quite sick of having to hear about more death and destruction. And watch more stupid humans kill and murder. This place really sucks sometimes..

[Mikhail Liebestein]

26 minutes ago, Mr H said:

All kicking off again...

 

I'm actually getting quite sick of having to hear about more death and destruction. And watch more stupid humans kill and murder. This place really sucks sometimes..

 

Both sides dehumanise each other; and as always the truth is the first casualty of war.

The ordinary Lebanese, Israelis and Iranians are mostly fine, decent people. I've met all those nationalities. The issue as always is the leadership.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Mikhail Liebestein