Conflict in Israel 2023

[Mr H]

Seems like Israel on the offensive again

 

 

 

 

[legion]

Why do some IDF soldiers have this hugely expanded map of Israel on their uniform..?

It encroaches on many other surrounding countries..

I've heard that this is allegedly the plan for a Greater Israel and it seems like the plan is just beginning. 

 

 

[Screamingeagle]

1 hour ago, legion said:

Why do some IDF soldiers have this hugely expanded map of Israel on their uniform..?

It encroaches on many other surrounding countries..

I've heard that this is allegedly the plan for a Greater Israel and it seems like the plan is just beginning. 

 

 

well war is ment to be continuous so why not....but i don't see them go into Arabia any time soon...

 

Egypt is different story ,have to level down those pyramids for the sake of great reset !!!!

[legion]

10 hours ago, Screamingeagle said:

well war is ment to be continuous so why not....but i don't see them go into Arabia any time soon...

 

Egypt is different story ,have to level down those pyramids for the sake of great reset !!!!

 

And don't forget all the super ancient sites in Modern Iraq.. 

 

I can't see much trouble for Israel to expand into that map on the soldiers arm, except as you mentioned, SA.. 

 

How would /could they possibly do that..? 

 

Frightening to see what they seem to actually want  

 

[Screamingeagle]

@legion

i'm not sure about this 

but i think Egypt and Israel had a "little" war few decades back 

 

 

[peter]

It seems like Putin is arming Iran now ,the Yanks like their proxy wars, maybe Russia will have one of their own soon, if Iran retaliates in any significant way the US will have to become directly involved,whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Edited August 27, 2024 by peter

[legion]

16 hours ago, Screamingeagle said:

@legion

i'm not sure about this 

but i think Egypt and Israel had a "little" war few decades back 

 

 

 

Israel has had several wars with all its neighbours since 1948, except Saudi Arabia as far as I know. 

 

That's a sizeable chunk of SA - almost half. I haven't looked where their oilfields are but guess they are scattered around the whole country. 

I've never heard about or remember seeing anything about the Saudi Army. 

With their wealth I would presume that it's a good size and well armed with modern equipment. 

 

I'm gonna go look.. 

[legion]

31 minutes ago, legion said:

I'm gonna go look.. 

 

Well.. 

It's ranked 22nd in Military Power in the world, which seems pretty low considering it's wealth. 

 

But it's ranked 2nd in the region with Iran being number 1.

 

I've looked at some numbers on the below links and it would seem that the USA would not have much trouble with SA, should it be dragged into a War supporting Israel. 

 

SA has stopped using the Petro-Dollar very recently. And Venezuela has more oil than SA and is much closer to home for the USA. 

 

If it really does kick off in the Middle East, I believe that map is entirely feasible. 

 

https://www.warpowersaudiarabia.com/ 

 

https://www.warpowersaudiarabia.com/airpower.php 

 

https://www.warpowersaudiarabia.com/landpower.php 

 

 https://www.warpowersaudiarabia.com/manpower.php 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2024 by legion
Reasons

[legion]

Are these Australian Lawyers antisemitic for getting together and advising on their interpretation of International Law..? 

 

There's rumblings around the world that are getting louder by the week. 

Are they in time..? 

 

 

Quote - 

Australian Lawyers Warn Federal Ministers their Support of Israel Contravenes International Law

by Paul Gregoire

published on 25 Aug 2024

 

(Fact Checked)

 

Over 100 Australian and Australia-based lawyers and legal scholars published an open letter on Thursday 22 August 2024, calling on prime minister Anthony Albanese, foreign affairs minister Penny Wong, defence minister Richard Marles and attorney general Mark Dreyfus to implement an arms and energy embargo on Israel.

 

This is in light of a 19 July 2024 advisory opinion of the International Court of Justice, which finds that Israel’s presence in the occupied Palestinian territories – the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem – illegal, and that it’s required to remove its occupying force, settlement and settler communities from the region where it is operating an apartheid regime.

“These historic findings by the ICJ do not create new obligations for states,” the local lawyers explain to the politicians, who should be aware of this, as it is. “These obligations have existed for decades, and – regrettably – most states, including Australia, have been in violation of them. Rather, the advisory opinion is a formal, authoritative reminder of these obligations.”

 

Hopefully, the AG does take heed of this warning, as depending upon the other key ministers to action it could be a stretch as currently Albanese, Wong and Marles have all been charged with complicity in the ICJ ruled “plausible” genocide that’s taking place in Gaza, within a case that was submitted to the International Criminal Court (ICC) by 100-plus Australian lawyers in March.

 

And 11 months into the Gaza genocide, with the official death toll having surpassed 40,000, and many thousands more deaths yet to be accounted for, the Albanese government now stands nakedly before the public, after having attempted to deny that genocide-facilitating trade with Israel does exist, not only complicit in mass slaughter but contributing to apartheid as well.

 

Merely fulfilling our obligations

According to the 100 plus legal experts, the obligations that our nation is bound to as a result of these findings include not recognising Israel as encompassing the occupied Palestinian territories, abstaining from treaty relations or diplomatic missions that involve Israel acting on behalf of them, and ending economic, trade or investment relations that contribute to the occupation.

 

Further requirements that Australia is obligated to take under international humanitarian law are not to aid or assist in the illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories, ensure that the occupation is brought to an end to permit Palestinian self-determination and to contribute to efforts that bind the UN General Assembly and its Security Council to act in accordance with this advice.

“We consider the legal obligations pertaining to trade and investment to be crucial from a legal and practical point of view,” the Australian lawyers warn the Albanese government in their 22 August statement published in Overland.

 

“Any good-faith interpretation of this obligation involves, at the very least, a comprehensive arms and energy embargo on Israel that covers the export, import and transfer of weapons, including parts, components and other dual-use items, as well as military jet fuel,” the legal professionals make certain.

The lawyers further point to the ICJ’s “detailed exposition of the role of water management, city planning and infrastructure and land policies in Israel’s illegal practices of occupation, racial segregation and annexation”, so, they explain to the top ministers, including the nation’s chief lawmaker, that this means “Australia must urgently suspend” ties related to these areas.

 

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/australian-lawyers-warn-federal-ministers-their-support-of-israel-contravenes-international-law/ 

 

Edited August 27, 2024 by legion
Reasons

[legion]

James Corbett - Corbett Report 

(Canadian living in Japan) 

 

Gaza Genocide 

 

"As we approach the ten month mark of the slaughter in Gaza, it's time to peel back the layers of deception surrounding October 7th, the Israeli response, and the true meaning of this conflict. We must call things by their right name. The Gaza holocaust must end."
.

 

https://old.bitchute.com/video/lTTkIqhSqoEx/ 

 

 

[legion]

Ex Ambassador - Craig Murray

" It is a hard thing to lose the entire belief system in which you were brought up – probably particularly hard if like me, you had a very happy life right from childhood and were highly successful within the terms of the governmental system.

I have however now finally shred the last of my illusions and I am obliged to acknowledge that the system of which I am a part – call it “the West”, “liberal democracy”, “capitalism”, “neo-liberalism”, “neo-conservatism”, “Imperialism”, “the New World Order” – call it what you will in fact, it is a force for evil. "

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/08/we-are-the-bad-guys/ 

 

 

[Campion]

11 hours ago, legion said:

Ex Ambassador - Craig Murray

" It is a hard thing to lose the entire belief system in which you were brought up – probably particularly hard if like me, you had a very happy life right from childhood and were highly successful within the terms of the governmental system.

I have however now finally shred the last of my illusions and I am obliged to acknowledge that the system of which I am a part – call it “the West”, “liberal democracy”, “capitalism”, “neo-liberalism”, “neo-conservatism”, “Imperialism”, “the New World Order” – call it what you will in fact, it is a force for evil. "

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/08/we-are-the-bad-guys/  

 

He might as well take the extra step and say white people are the force for evil.  I could kind of understand if he said he was still on a journey of understanding but he's doing no more than regurgitating the standard Frankfurt school critical theory agenda of blaming the white westerners, and thinking he's shed all his illusions. Apart from one comment later on when he says "I thought that at some stage human decency must outweigh Zionist lobby cash. But I was wrong."  Whether it's Zionists or not isn't the point, if he's prepared to consider that western governments are being manipulated by conspiratorial forces it rather undermines his main point that it's the west which is the source of the evil. But he's still stuck in the trap of blaming and hating his own civilisation instead of following his own logic and seeing where it leads. 

[legion]

9 hours ago, Campion said:

 

He might as well take the extra step and say white people are the force for evil.  I could kind of understand if he said he was still on a journey of understanding but he's doing no more than regurgitating the standard Frankfurt school critical theory agenda of blaming the white westerners, and thinking he's shed all his illusions. Apart from one comment later on when he says "I thought that at some stage human decency must outweigh Zionist lobby cash. But I was wrong."  Whether it's Zionists or not isn't the point, if he's prepared to consider that western governments are being manipulated by conspiratorial forces it rather undermines his main point that it's the west which is the source of the evil. But he's still stuck in the trap of blaming and hating his own civilisation instead of following his own logic and seeing where it leads. 

 

It would seem to me that Mr Murray is in the process of 'waking up' to the fact that Zionists control a lot of Western Governments. 

He's also waking up to the fact that the ICJ and ICC are being completely ignored and nobody appears to be doing anything about it. 

He comes from the 'old school' and as he says he believed that the system (with it faults) should work well enough to prevent such unlawful actions, such as the Palestinian Genocide. 

I think he's still in shock as to just how much the system is corrupt or in shock as to how much the system has become in the past few years.. 

 

[legion]

10 hours ago, Campion said:

he's still stuck in the trap of blaming and hating his own civilisation instead of following his own logic and seeing where it leads

 

As I said above - I believe that he's in the middle of a waking up that shaking him to his very core. 

He's alarmed at dissident journalists being arrested under 'terrorist legislation' and is wondering whether to flee the country himself, as he himself had been held and questioned by intelligence services upon returning from a Gaza event in Iceland a few month back 

 

Mr Murray's world has been turned upside down. 

 

I'm certainly not in agreement with lots of his thoughts about all sorts of things but I do respect his knowledge of international law and how governments SHOULD work. 

 

He a fascinating man who seems to have real integrity. 

 

Let's see how his unfolding process goes..? 

 

[legion]

10 hours ago, Campion said:

  Whether it's Zionists or not isn't the point

 

For him it is a big point. 

 

He's always supported the Palestinians and put an extraordinary amount of effort and time into doing whatever he could to help. 

 

He attended the first ICJ case against Israel despite obviously not being welcome and managed to give the world a report on the proceedings. 

[Campion]

4 hours ago, legion said:

For him it is a big point. 

 

He's always supported the Palestinians and put an extraordinary amount of effort and time into doing whatever he could to help. 

 

He attended the first ICJ case against Israel despite obviously not being welcome and managed to give the world a report on the proceedings. 

  

Sure, we're all on a journey towards finding the truth, and as a proud westerner I'm naturally triggered when I see smears like those. Of course it's not just him, nothing personal, it's the whole cult cover story about the west vs Islam vs the Eurasians. Unfortunately the Palestinians are right at the crosshairs of the whole agenda and suffering more extremely than the rest of us.  

[EnigmaticWorld]

You would think a guy that has supposedly done a lot of diggin' into zio shenanigans would notice their hand in the East, and that they don't even like the West. That's the red flag with folks like Murray, which makes his work read like anti-white thirdworldist propaganda.

 

Someone needs to ask "muh evil West" Murray why whites would support Israel when they don't even like whites or the West, especally when siding with them creates resentment towards us, then the problems end up on our doorsteps. Does Murray just believe white folks decided to commit cultural suicide one day? I would find that hard to believe, I just think he has a dog in this fight that he is not being completely honest about.

 

This is what people mean when they say "dollar store anti-zionist". If you're scapegoating the West for zionism, then you might just be doing the zios job for them by undermining the West for the messianic age.

Edited September 1, 2024 by EnigmaticWorld

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

>Europeans under attack by the same people

No fucks given from Craig. Must be a cohencidence.

[EnigmaticWorld]

On 6/26/2024 at 1:28 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:

"These are not honest people, they are subversive Marxists who pretend to care about people that died in order to manipulate you into hating your own country. John Pilger is a pathological liar. He claims that the US is pursuing a long-standing ambition to dominate the Eurasian landmass when in fact Putin and Dugin have both publically admitted that it is actually Russia's goal."

 

- Johnny Gat

 

 

Wouldn't be surprised if there is a Dugin link somewhere.

Edited September 1, 2024 by EnigmaticWorld

[EnigmaticWorld]

3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

they don't even like the West.

 

 

What's taking Craig so long to notice that they're not on the West's side? Am I supposed to believe that he has been writing about them for years but hasn't bothered looking into their ideology? The guy has a comment section, so surely he would listen to peoples advice or something. Come on now.

 

>"We seem to be disproportionatalely ruled by a certain group of people that are not like us. Maybe we should look into what motivates them and what they believe."

If common sense was common, surely that would be the first thing people ask when they begin to notice.

 

Edited September 1, 2024 by EnigmaticWorld

[legion]

7 hours ago, Campion said:

  

Sure, we're all on a journey towards finding the truth, and as a proud westerner I'm naturally triggered when I see smears like those. Of course it's not just him, nothing personal, it's the whole cult cover story about the west vs Islam vs the Eurasians. Unfortunately the Palestinians are right at the crosshairs of the whole agenda and suffering more extremely than the rest of us.  

 

I believe that when Craig says 'the West' he means the bastards who have been 'placed in power' and not by any means Western citizens. 

 

He's very liberal minded (small L) and married to a woman from Uzbekistan with whom he has children. He met her when he was working there for the UK government - and where he was when he 'blew the whistle' on the UK and the USA accepting and acting on information given under torture. 

 

I've read EWs posts under your post and am going to respond - I'm guessing you'll be reading more of my comments about Murray.. 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2024 by legion
Reasons

[legion]

6 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

You would think a guy that has supposedly done a lot of diggin' into zio shenanigans would notice their hand in the East, and that they don't even like the West. That's the red flag with folks like Murray, which makes his work read like anti-white thirdworldist propaganda.

 

30 minutes ago, legion said:

I believe that when Craig says 'the West' he means the bastards who have been 'placed in power' and not by any means Western citizens. 

 

He's very liberal minded (small L) and married to a woman from Uzbekistan with whom he has children. He met her when he was working there for the UK government - and where he was when he 'blew the whistle' on the UK and the USA accepting and acting on information given under torture. 

 

I've read EWs posts under your post and am going to respond - I'm guessing you'll be reading more of my comments about Murray.. 

 

 

I'm putting more together now.. 

BRB

Edited September 1, 2024 by legion

[legion]

7 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Does Murray just believe white folks decided to commit cultural suicide one day? I would find that hard to believe, I just think he has a dog in this fight that he is not being completely honest about.

 

As my post above - Murray married to etc etc.. 

I guess that is his 'dog in the fight' over his acceptance of immigration. 

 

I certainly don't agree with everything he does and says but he seems to know procedures of International Law and how Governments are supposed to work and act. 

 

He is totally PRO-MRNA vaxxine and I fought tooth and nail with the moderators on his blog just to (not) be allowed to mention Dr Mike Yeadon's name

7 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

during the plandemic in the comment section. I even emailed Murray to complain about the moderation team and the right to try to discuss Dr Mike Yeadon and he responded. Not with the answer I wanted but he did respond that he was busy and trusted his team. 

 

He also wants Scottish Independence purely to join the EU again..!! 

 

There's lots to not like about him. 

 

7 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

>Europeans under attack by the same people

No fucks given from Craig. Must be a cohencidence.

 

Fuck I'm rusty on the functions here  

 

Firstly it's not a Ukrainian genocide is it..? Ukraine was genociding Russian speaking Ukrainians living near the border. Russia eventually stepped in.. Blah blah blah.. All theatre, right..? Ukraine and Russia working for the same cult. 

 

I honestly don't think Murray sees this. Like he couldn't see the Convid lies and the Vaxx lies. Maybe I'm wrong. 

 

7 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

Wouldn't be surprised if there is a Dugin link somewhere.

 

(John Pilger is dead now BTW) 

Was Pilger against Western people or their governments..? 

And without going to look I confess to knowing nothing of Dugin unless my memory is jogged. 

 

4 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

What's taking Craig so long to notice that they're not on the West's side? Am I supposed to believe that he has been writing about them for years but hasn't bothered looking into their ideology? The guy has a comment section, so surely he would listen to peoples advice or something. Come on now.

 

>"We seem to be disproportionatalely ruled by a certain group of people that are not like us. Maybe we should look into what motivates them and what they believe."

If common sense was common, surely that would be the first thing people ask when they begin to notice.

 

 

I think this is what is dawning on Murray right now.

 

He's had fingers in many pies and spreads himself very thin - with family time - and time in prison for the false charge of naming the accusers of Alex Salmond sex assault and rape allegations /trial - campaigning for Assange - producing music festivals - attending endless Palestine cause events - running for MP in the recent election.. I could go on but you get the picture - and he's not young - and his health isn't great either. 

 

I'm very interested in his next few blogs, given this admission of loosing all faith and sense of what he believed in. 

 

His comment section is always interesting and there's lots of tasty morsels to be found there. 

 

The moderation team seem to be allowing anti-zionist comments with all the usual links and stuff that goes with it.. 

 

 

I'm open minded still. 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2024 by legion
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[legion]

@EnigmaticWorld

Dugin. 

Yes - just had a quick gander 

Daughter blown up. 

Ex Soviet defecter 

I'm aware of some small bits about him but not in any depth to comment re - Pilger - Murray - Dugin. 

 

[legion]

 

The End of Western Pluralist Democracy 36

September 1, 2024  in Uncategorized by craig

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No major western leader is ever again going to be able to speak about human rights or ethical values, without attracting howls of derision. They are turning on their own people in order to prevent protest at a genocide they actively support.

Keir Starmer stepped up the pressure on opponents of Zionist genocide on Thursday with the arrest of journalist Sarah Wilkinson and the charging of activist Richard Barnard, both under the draconian Section 12 of the Terrorism Act which carries a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

The UK MSM has of course ignored these, but is universally carrying outrage at the conviction of two Hong Kong activists for sedition, which carries a maximum sentence of … 2 years.

But they tell us it is China and not the UK which is the authoritarian dictatorship.

(To be plain, I do view the Hong Kong convictions as also an unwarranted interference with free speech. I merely point out the incredible hypocrisy of the British Establishment and far worse laws here).

Richard Barnard has been charged and will face trial, apparently related to public speeches supporting the Palestinian right to armed resistance.

Sarah Wilkinson was released on bail after about 14 hours. Like the recent arrest and bailing of Richard Medhurst, the arrest and bailing is a device to chill her reporting and activism.

The harassment of dissident journalists at ports, using the extensive powers of the Terrorism Act for questioning and confiscation of communications equipment, has become routine. I myself suffered detention, interrogation and confiscation of equipment for “terrorism” last October.

But the Sarah Wilkinson case is an escalation, in that this is a raid on a journalist whose home was invaded by 16 policemen at 7.30am, while she was arrested and taken to the police station as her home was comprehensively turned over, presumably looking for gunmen under the bed.

More details of the raid have come out which are scarcely believable. Armed counter-terrorism police wearing balaclavas were used against a peaceful, female journalist. She was manhandled and physically hurt. The ashes in her mother’s funerary urn were desecrated in a “search”. And Sarah’s bail conditions include that she may not use a computer or mobile telephone.

It is a fascist government that sends 16 police to bust a peaceful journalist at home at 7.30am.

Like the stopping of Richard Medhurst’s plane on the tarmac by police vehicles and his being dragged from the plane (which had just landed and was en route to the gate anyway) this is an authoritarian theatre of intimidation, a Nazi stamping of the violence of the state.

Richard Barnard is a co-founder of the brilliant Palestine Action, which has done so much to disrupt the Israeli arms industry in the UK as it continues to send vital equipment to carry out the mass destruction of civilians in Gaza.

 

Richard has been charged under Section 12 of the Terrorism Act over two speeches he made supporting the Palestinian resistance.

I have of course said this before, but it bears repeating:

Palestine has the legitimate right of self-defence against the illegal occupation.
The occupying power Israel has no right of self-defence. That is the plain position in international law.

Yet in the UK, it is legal to offer full-throated support to Israel’s genocide and to wish that all Palestinians are exterminated.

IDF participants in genocide happily move between Israel and the UK with no legal consequences.

Yet it is illegal to support certain Palestinian organisations when engaged in legal acts of armed resistance.

The state’s actions against activists have been ramped up – as I predicted – since Starmer came to power.

Five young activists in Glasgow were ten days ago given sentences ranging from 12 months to 24 months in prison for direct action against Thales weapons plant in Govan, which makes parts for Israel’s Watchkeeper drones, widely used against civilians in Gaza.

The sentences from Sheriff Judge McCormick were savage – far higher than would normally be given on the specified charges, which were of breach of the peace, vandalism, disorderly conduct and acting in an abusive manner.

These normally would attract at most a suspended sentence on a first offence. McCormick also ignored the Scottish government guidelines not to give custodial sentences of 24 months or less but to seek alternatives.

More tellingly, McCormick completely ignored the elephant in the room: the genocide in Gaza, which Thales are supplying.

(The fact the action occurred before the genocide should be properly viewed as a commendable act of prescience.)

The Zionist Starmerite Establishment were quick to crow over the jailing – notably Luke Akehurst and John Woodcock (who is laughably called Lord Walney nowadays and is the Government Adviser on political violence) who said “Activists considering breaking the law to get their way need to see there will be consequences”.

This follows similarly harsh sentencing of climate change activists, including those who merely took part in Zoom calls discussing direct action.

The authoritarian reaction of the threatened Zionist ruling class is a worldwide phenomenon. Redoubtable Australian journalist Mary Kostakidis has been ludicrously charged under hate speech laws for retweeting mainstream pro-Palestinian tweets.

American activist Professor Danny Shaw was turned over by the FBI on return to the USA following a trip which included speaking on a panel alongside me at the Palestine International Film Festival.

Also in the United States my friend Scott Ritter has been raided by the FBI and all his electronics and other materials confiscated.

I have spoken to Danny Shaw and to Richard Medhurst. In all of these arrests and detentions, including my own, the emphasis has been on confiscating electronics and on questioning focusing very strongly on contacts, meetings and sources of finance.

The Five Eyes intelligence services are plainly building up Venn diagrams of the democratic opposition to Zionism and the neoliberal project. It is notable that many of those recently arrested over Palestine – including Mary Kostakidis, Richard Medhurst, Scott Ritter and myself – were active in the campaign to free Julian Assange.

I have always maintained that Keir Starmer’s record shows that he will be an even bigger danger to civil liberties than the Tories. It is worth noting that all of the Tory recent draconian legislation – The Public Order Act, The National Security Act and even the Rwanda Act – was not opposed or was supported by Starmer as the pretend “Leader of the Opposition”.

Starmer and Cooper are continuing the Tory policy of challenging a High Court ruling won by Liberty, that Suella Braverman acted illegally in tabling secondary legislation lowering the threshold to ban a demonstration on grounds of inconvenience to the public.

The forthcoming Online Safety Act will be truly chilling, including making it illegal to publish what the government deems misinformation.

Starmer has always been MI5-controlled. The fact that, while a Tory government was in power, the Crown Prosecution Service destroyed all the key documentation revealing Starmer’s involvement in the Assange, Savile and Janner cases (the last being far more important than generally appreciated), shows the extent to which Starmer is a protected Deep State asset.

If we are to survive this descent onto fascism as a society, we need to be prepared to dissent now, and each of us needs to be prepared to go to jail if necessary.

A last word to Craig Mokhiber, the senior UN international lawyer who resigned in protest at UN pusillanimity in face of genocide:

 

 

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2024/09/the-end-of-western-pluralist-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-1067221 

 

Edited September 2, 2024 by legion