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same happened in Munich - one of these "protesters" rolled out his little carpet to pray in the street - they have 0 gratitude for the countries that let them in - off with them all as soon as possible and the rest of clueless western protesters with them, we will see how far they come with their civil rights ins arab ruled countries

 

 

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1 hour ago, Velma said:

 

"Just like trump just like Hitler". 🤔 Really? That's not a serious person in this video.

 

They voted the Hamas in. 

 

https://youtu.be/XEEr5OxezfQ?si=bEKMOmBTf4-SdpZS

Video shows Hamas converting water pipelines into missiles. 

 

Why do you think the neighbouring Arab nations want nothing to do with the people of Gaza? 

 

https://rumble.com/v3rfp31-hamas-documented-atrocities-footage-released-by-israel-of-barbaric-attack-o.html

 

https://rumble.com/v3p1wmg-bodycam-footage-of-hamas-shooting-toilets-at-festival.html

 

Bodycam footage of Hamas shooting toilets at festival

 

Nearly a week on and still new and disturbing footage manages to find its way out of the Supernova Festival, which unwittingly found itself on the front line of the surprise Hamas attack. This footage, shot by one of the Hamas soldiers themselves with a bodycam, shows the militants approaching toilets at the festival. Without checking what or who they were shooting at, the soldier opens fire systematically at each cubicle, one by one. It is not known if anyone was alive before the shooting, however it is unlikely anyone was alive afterwards.

The attack on the Supernova Festival killed over 260 civilians, the opening of the Hamas ‘Al Aqsa Flood.’ Israel’s response was to formally declare war on Hamas, and begin bombardment of Gaza.

 

 

Harrowing images from Israeli border towns attacked by Hamas

 

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/harrowing-images-israeli-border-towns-attacked-by-hamas-2023-10-18/

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

lets face it you are either ignoring reality or you simply haven't seen the amount of information that i have

 

lets build some substance to that statement....

 

by now everyone will have heard of the movement sweeping through academia called 'critical race theory' which is being used to indoctrinate the younger generation as they pass through the universities. It is singling out white people as uniquely 'oppressors' and we can ask ourselves as we look at the sweep of history and all the terrible things that have been carried out by people of all skin colours whether it is the communist murders of tens of millions by the chinese and cambodians or the mongol hordes that swept west wiping out whole cities who would not open their gates to the invaders or the relatively new religion of islam which spread, by the sword, across north africa and across the levant and up into europe until it was banging on the gates of vienna, or the human sacrifices of the incas and aztecs or the slave trade of the jews, arabs and african kings of dahomey etc etc etc

 

clearly 'oppression' is not singularly a white issue!

 

so someone clearly has it in for white people and is spreading a distorted view of history to poison peoples world view against white people. Elon musk recently pointed the finger at 'liberal jews' as the people pushing anti-white racism. If we dig a bit deeper we can see that 'critical race theory' is an outgrowth of CRITICAL THEORY which was introduced, like a cancer, into western universities by the jewish, marxist intellectuals of the FRANKFURT SCHOOL.

 

The frankfurt school left germany as the nazis came into power and were aided into tenure in american universities through the influence of powerful sabbatean billionaires like the rockefellers. The rockefellers grew rich through standard oil company and then created the chase manhattan bank which became one of the private banks which attended a secret meeting on jekyl island in which a plan to create a central bank was hatched. Those handful of private banks clubbed together into a cartel and by subterfuge got the federal reserve bill passed in congress in 1913. And that's where things REALLY started to go wrong for the world!

 

One of that cabal of bankers was jacob schiff who bankrolled a marxist revolutionary by the name of bernstein aka trotsky. Schiff put trotsky in touch with the jewish, masonic b'nai brith group and they prepared an army of revolutionaries with pockets bulging with bankster money to go back to russia to foment a revolution.

 

Schiff had also caused russia harm by funding a complete modernisation of the japanese military and navy which then challenged russia in a sea battle and beat them. Perhaps we could consider if this caused a chain of events that then lead to an imperialist japan bombing pearl harbour and bringing the US into world war 2....

 

Once trotsky and his revolutionaries gained control of russia they murdered over a million christians in 'the terror'. The reason they had been thrown out of russia in the first place is because the rothschilds had created a network of secret societies (these are mentioned in the zionist encycolpedia) which planned to overthrow russia so that the sabbateans could take control. As part of this agenda they assassinated tzar alexander II which lead to a backlash of pogroms against the wider jewish community amongst which the sabbateans were hiding.

 

So all the 'wokery' and mass immigration of today which is being pushed by the authoritarian-left all comes from marxism and the sabbateans and here is a contemporary cartoon depicting karl marx being celebrated by the wall street bankers who continue to fund marxism to this day as part of their CORPORATE SOCIALISM hence why fink's BLACKROCK corporation is pushing woke ESG's onto other corporations

 

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so lets tie in israel to all of this....

 

churchill wrote a newspaper piece claiming that two forces where competeing for the soul of the international jewish community: zionism and marxism

 

But the truth is that the dichotomy is false as both were created by the sabbatean network to achieve different things. Zionism was created to grab palestine so that a new temple could be built in jerusalem to beckon in the messianic age and walter rothschild, as head of the zionist federation in britain, put that goal in their grasp by getting his freemasonic co-conspirators in britain to sign over palestine to the zionists with the balfour declaration. This is why there is no lasting ceasefire in gaza because the goal is really to drive the palestineans out so that the sabbateans can create their 'greater israel' of biblical prophecy

 

The marxist wing which they created through a cousin of the rothschilds, karl marx, had a variety of goals including the creation of a hegelian conflict between state-capitalism and state-socialism out of which a third way of technocracy would emerge and boy are we seeing that emerge now with the smart cities and the 15 minute cities and the ulez and the biometrics and mass surveilance and central bank digital currency and social credit scores and driverless cars etc

 

The marxist wing is also waging a perpetual war against 'the west' aimed at a complete breakdown of our culture, our religion, our societies, our nations, our identity and our sense of self worth. I would place all those agendas under the umbrella term 'cultural marxism' which i would describe as death by a thousand cuts. In fact the sabbatean-jewish, marxist saul alinsky, spoke i think about how many fleas could bring down a mighty bear by sucking it dry whilst the bear could not remove such tiny opponents...

 

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here's just a snippet from corbett's website. The full episode is worth listening to or reading:

 

But regardless of the relationship, Kissinger, Rockefeller—two peas in a pod—with the same agenda, to open up China, from the Mao era of Great Leap Forward and then the Cultural Revolution, which was an interesting time, in which Mao did a very astute political maneuver. Let's not say that he was a stupid man. He was a disgusting, horrible, cruel, perverse person, probably the greatest mass murderer in the history of the world, but he was not necessarily a stupid man. One does not retain control over a country for that long, in those types of revolutionary situations, without some politically astute moves. And the Cultural Revolution, in some ways—although all of this needs a large degree of fleshing out—can be seen as a type of counter-revolution instituted by Mao against the counterrevolutionary tendencies that were taking place within his own party.

Again, it was an interesting maneuver to get the people against the Chinese Communist Party, which was turning against Mao, so that he could retain his power. An interesting set-up. But at any rate the Cultural Revolution was what occurred after the Great Leap Forward—the utter disgusting, horrific failure of the Great Leap Forward, which managed to maintain Mao's control over the country.

And then after that point, at the point where the handover took place and Mao was out of power, we started to see a new generation of Chinese leadership taking over. And this is where the story gets extremely interesting and connects again with these same figures of Chase Manhattan, of Rockefeller, Kissinger—all of these figures come together at a very interesting point, and we'll take this from a 1986 work by Michel Chossudovsky, Towards Capitalist Restoration where he writes:

The 1979 visit of Deng Xiaoping to the US was followed in June 1980 by the equally significant encounter in Wall Street of Rong Yiren, chairman of CITIC, and David Rockefeller. The meeting, held in the penthouse of the Chase Manhattan Bank complex, was attended by senior executives of close to 300 major US corporations. A major agreement was reached between Chase, CITIC, and the Bank of China, involving the exchange of specialists and technical personnel to "identify and define those areas of the Chinese economy most susceptible to American technology and capital infusion."

Extremely interesting. Well, now we have a very solid lead, a very specific point on which to start building our case. This is, again, a confluence of this Rong Yiren, which I am probably mispronouncing. (And let me just of course add the caveat to any Chinese speakers in the crowd that I apologize for butchering your language and every single name in this episode of the podcast.)

Rong Yiren, the chairman of CITIC, which is obviously something that deserves more scrutiny, with David Rockefeller of the Chase Manhattan Bank, three hundred major US corporations, meeting and engaging in a large agreement on technical and specialist exchange of information and personnel to identify and define those areas of the Chinese economy "most susceptible" to American technology and capital infusion.

So who is Rong Yiren? What was CITIC? Where did this come from? How does this relate to the presidency of Deng Xiaoping?

Well, let's start boiling this down in a fascinating little piece of this puzzle that was provided by Bloomberg a couple of years ago. Of course this is not exactly hidden knowledge that was never known before this Bloomberg report, but it was interestingly summarized in a December 27, 2012, "Bloomberg Report - Heirs of Mao's Comrades Rise as New Capitalist Nobility'."

This is a fascinating story about a group that was known as The Eight Immortals. And yes, I am not making that up: they're known as The Immortals. And this is a group, a new class of people who have risen, that were connected to eight people specifically, who survived the Cultural Revolution of Mao and were in high-ranking positions in the Chinese Communist Party to start implementing a very different agenda from Mao's agenda, in the reign of Deng Xiaoping. So picking up from that article:

The people generally known as the Eight Immortals are now all dead, though all but three lived into their 90s. Their stature in China is on a par with that of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in the U.S. They are:

Deng Xiaoping;

General Wang, who fed Mao’s troops;

Chen Yun, who took charge of the economy when Mao assumed power in 1949;

Li Xiannian, who was instrumental in the plot that ended the Cultural Revolution;

Peng Zhen, who helped rebuild China’s legal system in the 1980s;

Song Renqiong, the Party personnel chief who oversaw the rehabilitation of purged cadres after the Cultural Revolution;

President Yang, who backed Deng’s order to carry out the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown; [and]

Bo Yibo, a former vice premier and the last of the Immortals to die, at 98, in 2007.

Or, in the Chinese pronunciation of these names . . . [Chinese pronunciation]

Continuing with the Bloomberg article:

They emerged from the Cultural Revolution after Mao’s death in 1976, during which many of them had been in internal exile, to find an economy in ruins. Gross domestic product in 1978 was $165 a person, compared with $22,462 in the U.S. With Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong booming, the Immortals were surrounded by capitalist success stories.

The victorious Communists had executed landlords after 1949. Farms had become People’s Communes. Factories belonged to the state.

The Immortals turned that on its head in the 1980s: Farmers could lease land. Private enterprise - at first on a small scale, later bigger - was tolerated, then encouraged. Deng took the gamble that in order to stoke growth, some “flies and mosquitoes” could be tolerated, said Ezra Vogel, an emeritus professor at Harvard, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, who wrote a 2011 biography of Deng.

Alright, so there you go, there it is, in a nutshell, The Eight Immortals and their progeny, which now are still in control of so many different facets of the state-controlled economy there in China, that it is extremely interesting. The not strictly state-controlled anymore, the now private enterprise/state-controlled hybrid system that China is prototyping for the New World Order system. And it's interesting—I mean, it's fascinating—to look at these eight families and the way that their connections continue to wield inordinate amounts of power over the political and economic life of China. And there's more on that in this story in Bloomberg and in other stories that have been published in Bloomberg, in various pieces of this puzzle that will be found in a million different places, which I'm going to ask your help for in hoping to connect some of those pieces later on in this episode.

But let's continue on. Picking up that thread from The Eight Immortals and their influence, back to what we were talking about earlier, with that secret meeting in 1980 with Chase Manhattan and Rockefeller meeting with Rong Yiren of the CITIC group, well, that ties into this story of the Immortals. Reading again from that Bloomberg article:

Within months, Wang Jun, the general’s son [that's General Wang one of the Immortals] was made head of business operations at the newly formed CITIC, known then as China International Trust & Investment Corp. The group, founded by Rong Yiren, was set up to attract overseas investment at a time when the country’s foreign exchange reserves were $840 million. He turned it into a sprawling empire to drive China’s growth. CITIC now runs China’s biggest listed securities firm, backs a Beijing soccer team and develops luxury real estate projects. China’s reserves today stand at $3.3 trillion.

840 million to 3.3 trillion! So that gives you a sense of what CITIC is and how it relates to the current Chinese hierarchy. But let's focus even more closely in on that Rong Yiren character, who in June 1980 was meeting with Rockefeller at the top of Chase Manhattan complex in Manhattan. We can find this from an obituary to Rong Yiren that was run at the time of his death. So this obituary, entitled "The death of China’s 'red capitalist' and the 1949 revolution" reads, in part:

In CITIC’s first year of operations, Rong met with more than 4,000 foreign businessmen. He also enlisted Henry Kissinger, the former US secretary of state who established diplomatic relations with Beijing in 1971, as one of the company’s main international advisors.

Rong facilitated investment by building infrastructure in the free trade zones and helping foreign firms set up operations. Philip Wong, a Hong Kong delegate to China’s National People’s Congress, told the China Daily on October 28: “If not for his [Rong’s] ability and vision in setting up CITIC, the pace of economic development in China would not have been so fast.”

By 1992, Rong’s CITIC had become a business empire, involved in shipping, power generation and construction. Today, CITIC has 200 enterprises around the world and total assets of $US6.3 billion. As CITIC developed, so did Rong’s private businesses. In 1979, he sent his son, Larry Rong, to Hong Kong to manage his investments there. In 2005, Larry Rong was named by Forbes magazine as China’s richest man, with a fortune of $1.64 billion.

Billion with a "b" . . .

Rong senior also played a key role in the further opening up of the Chinese economy after the suppression of the anti-government protests in May and June of 1989. Deng Xiaoping justified the massacre of workers and students in Tiananmen Square on the grounds that it was necessary to defend the 'socialist system'. In reality, it was aimed at crushing the opposition of the working class to the impact of the regime’s free market policies.

"Free market"—yes, an interesting little bit of propaganda snuck in there.

In 1993, Rong was promoted to Vice President of China, as a symbol of Beijing’s determination to accelerate “market reform”. As the obituary to Rong in the British Financial Times noted: “The post was mainly ceremonial, but it sent a clear message: China’s new blend of communist politics and market economics was here to stay. And it was the ‘red capitalist’ who had shown the way.” The same year, China received $111 billion of contracted foreign direct investment—nearly four times the amount that had been invested in the entire 10-year period from 1979 to 1989.

A very interesting character and you will notice the little bits of propaganda and the little bits of the narrative that are already being inserted into this, in very, very subtle but very powerful ways. For example, it's the free trade, it's the capitalist aspects of this CITIC and these types of organizations that are to blame for the incredible oppression and political oppression that we saw at Tiananmen Square and that we've seen in various other contexts from Beijing, that's somehow to do with the free market system with capitalism. Because of course when we're talking about these Eight Immortals and their progeny controlling hundreds of billions—trillions of dollars ultimately if we include the Chinese reserves—in all of these various corporations—the state-controlled corporations—this is somehow free market, this is somehow the example of capitalism.

So you'll see the way that certain pieces of the narrative are inserted here to try to create false paradigms that are, again, at that two-dimensional stage. It's capitalism versus socialism, and they butt heads, and, oh, look what results. And there are other aspects of this that I think are worth highlighting. For example, when Heinz Kissinger himself poses something that I think is also becoming another idea that is pushed in this China vs. the US narrative, which is that, "Well, you know, when you think about militarily from the perspective of empire, the Chinese are kind of the good guys."

HENRY KISSINGER: The Chinese believe in the superiority of their culture, the uniqueness of their culture, and they are delighted and proud if you respect it. But there's no way you can become a Chinese. If you are not part of the Chinese culture, born into the Chinese culture, you cannot become one, so it's hard to imagine Chinese armies intervening somewhere to make Chinese culture (inaudible) Chinese governing principles. That is not a Chinese way of thinking.

The Chinese way of thinking is that the majesty of the Chinese conduct and the achievements of Chinese society will inspire respect which leads to a cooperative action, but it's not one that they have historically attempted to bring about by military force. They'll use military force if they feel themselves threatened, and ruthlessly, but it's hard for me to visualize a Chinese military strategy designed to back up a Chinese World Government, even in the name of universal peace.

SOURCE: CSIS Special Book Discussion: “On China,” with Henry Kissinger

And so here's the narrative that becomes kind of the counternarrative to the mainstream narrative that is propagated in the West, which of course is that the US and NATO are the good guys in this Cold War scenario. Well, of course there has to be a counternarrative—an alternative narrative—that is subtly injected into the conversation by people like Kissinger, who have been intimately involved with the creation of this red capitalist system since its inception, as we've already detailed in various ways and which we will continue to detail. But he gets to insert certain things that become part of the counternarrative as well, like, "Oh, well, China—they don't go out and militarily invade other countries. They're the 'good' side of the New World Order." And so I think that's another thing that we and the alternative media really have to be careful about: What counternarratives are we propagating, and are they truly counter to the system that is being established? Are they truly counter to the megabillionaire financial elite interests that are puppeteering this butting of heads of the capitalist and socialist system?

read on here https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-297-china-and-the-new-world-order/

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Hamas, the monstrous, human animals, treated their hostages with humanity, shared what scant food they had with them and tried to obtain any medicines they required. The captives parted from their Palestinian captors, thankful, smiling and waving goodbye.  

 

By contrast, the only democracy in the Middle East, fired tear gas and live rounds at the families waiting for the release of their loved ones from Ofer Prison, killing another journalist.

 

The prisoners, mainly women and children recounted the dire conditions in which they were kept. They had no beds, blankets or electricity, little food and were subjected to torture.

 

They were also forbidden from celebrating their freedom, but while they were being released, dozens more were being detained during raids on Jenin and Nablus.

 

Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard told the hostages to “keep your mouth shut or we will shut them for you” and said their families should have been arrested and jailed to silence them. If the abductees were to speak out about how “friendly” the “terrorists” were, it would be a PR disaster for Israel.

 

 

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/the-hostages-families-should-have-been-jailed-to-shut-them-up-says-former-us-citizen-who-was-an-israeli-spy/articleshow/105481322.cms

 

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The only thing I will say about this is look at Israel's history ,the 6 day war with Egypt when they bombed an American war ship  and killed 34 sailors they said it was a terrible mistake only after they got found out as they were trying to blame Egypt to pull America into the conflict .They were also up to their arm pits in 9/11 the four dancing Israelis that spent 8 months in jail, were pardoned and sent home, they said they were there to film the event. Gaza has always been a thorn in Israel's side   Hamas lob a few rockets then there is a disproportionate response and Gaza looses more land ,how many times has that happened, one would have to ask the question ,are there any Israeli operatives within the Hamas hierarchy and if so the fact that it came  out a couple of weeks ago about the large oil and gas reserves under Gaza and the occupied territories ,the answer to that very question could shine a new light on whats going on      

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On 11/29/2023 at 11:19 AM, peter said:

American war ship  and killed 34 sailors they said it was a terrible mistake only after they got found out as they were trying to blame Egypt to pull America into the conflict .

This is quite true, but according to James Bamford, the Liberty was also a spyship, and one other compelling reason was that it had evidence that Israeli troops were systematically massacring Egyptian POWs. Nice people. 

 

Another interesting little known fact about the early days of Israel. In WWII, Tel Aviv was attacked a couple of times by Italian bombers.. but never ever by German ones, even though air raids would have perfectly feasible. That fact suggests that the Third Reich and the Zionist leadership had some sort of secret agreement. 

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3 hours ago, Velma said:

On a lighter note... Kissinger is dead!

 

 

Maybe they stopped giving him whatever was keeping him alive when he started speaking out of turn somewhat. 

 

Another of the 'great and bad' has departed, New Lab incompetent chancellor Alistair Darling, friend of the bankers, enemy of the disabled, benefit claimants and homeless. 

 

Possibly the Bliar champagne will not remain unopened for very long...😉

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More explosive power used against Gaza in a month than on Hiroshima (VIDEO)

Israel’s offensive against Hamas has also been deadlier than years of US assaults on Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a UN report
1 Dec, 2023

According to a new UN report, the combined explosive power unleashed by the IDF in Gaza since October 7 already exceeds that of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima by the US at the end of WWII. The Palestinian death toll is now higher than the count following several years of US strikes on Afghanistan and Iraq.

The Israeli bombardment campaign was launched following the surprise Hamas attack on Israel, in which 1,200 people were killed. Israel’s response has so far claimed the lives of over 15,000 Gazans, including some 6,000 children, according to the enclave’s health officials.

https://www.rt.com/news/588318-israel-gaza-bombing-report/

Why is the Auschwitz museum justifying Israel’s genocide?

Ali Abunimah 30 November 2023

The international council of the Auschwitz museum earlier this month issued a statement supporting Israel’s genocide in the Gaza Strip under the banner of “self-defense.”

This grotesque move by an institution whose alleged mission is “to warn against indifference” to the kinds of atrocities perpetrated by the Nazis at the infamous Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp, came on 18 November.

This was after weeks of merciless Israeli bombing which had by that time killed more than 13,000 Palestinians, including 5,500 children.

According to The New York Times – no friend of the Palestinian people – the pace of Israel’s killing of civilians in Gaza “has few precedents in this century.”

To find a historical comparison for so many large bombs in such a small area, we may “have to go back to Vietnam or the Second World War,” Marc Garlasco, a military adviser for the Dutch organization PAX and a former senior intelligence analyst at the Pentagon, told the Times.

And yet the official guardians of the memory of the estimated 1.1 million people murdered at Auschwitz are not flinching.

“Threatened in its existence, the State of Israel has the right to self-defense in accordance with international law and the principles of humanitarianism,” the Auschwitz council said.

“The existence of a free, sovereign and democratic Jewish state is one of the pillars of world peace,” it asserted, dropping any pretense of political neutrality.

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/why-auschwitz-museum-justifying-israels-genocide

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Maurice Henry Blinken, was a Hungarian Jew and early backer of Israel, who studied its economic viability, he was also the grandfather of the current ‘mediator’ between the USA and Israel, Antony Blinken, who can hardly be impartial.

 

As the Secretary of State, Blinken has repeated his insistence "that Israel act in accordance with international humanitarian law and the laws of war" which it has never done, not since 1948 and certainly not since the October 7th 2023.

 

Blinken said that meant "taking more effective steps to protect the lives of civilians, including by clearly and precisely designating areas and places in southern and central Gaza where they can be safe and out of the line of fire." There is no safe place in Gaza, but Israel obliges by dropping warning leaflets on designated targets.

 

He said, "It means avoiding further significant displacement of civilians inside of Gaza. It means avoiding damage to life-critical infrastructure, like hospitals, like power stations, like water facilities.” Too late, all of the above has already occurred and resumed with gusto after the pause, without any repercussions for Israel.

 

The Blinken Administration continued, "And it means giving civilians who've been displaced to southern Gaza the choice to return to the north as soon as conditions permit." Conditions may never permit, because there is little left remaining in northern Gaza which could sustain a meaningful life. It is a graveyard for children.

 

The International community pays lip service to Israel’s genocidal campaign in Palestine, expressing “concern” and warning of impending famine and disease, but doing nothing about it. They are more concerned about people supporting the resistance, Hamas, who Antony Blinken blames for everything!

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8 hours ago, Velma said:

including by clearly and precisely designating areas and places in southern and central Gaza where they can be safe and out of the line of fire.

Judging from their past record, such precisely designated areas and places should be avoided like the plague.

 

Few were spared as the Israelis pushed forward.

 

A convoy of Indian peacekeeper soldiers, flying the blue United Nations flag from their jeeps and trucks, were on their way to Gaza when they met an Israeli tank column on the road. As the Israelis approached, the UN observers pulled aside and stopped to get out of the way. One of the tanks rotated its turret and opened fire from a few feet away. The Israeli tank then rammed its gun through the windshield of an Indian jeep and decapitated the two men inside. When other Indians went to aid their comrades, they were mowed down by machine-gun fire.

 

Another Israeli tank thrust its gun into a UN truck, lifted it, and smashed it to the ground, killing or wounding all the occupants. In Gaza, Israeli tanks blasted six rounds into UN headquarters, which was flying the UN flag. Fourteen UN members were killed in these incidents. One Indian officer called it deliberate, cold-blooded killing of unarmed UN soldiers. It would be a sign of things to come.

 

James Bamford on the 1973 Yom Kippur war  - from 'Body of Secrets'

 

8 hours ago, Velma said:

The International community pays lip service to Israel’s genocidal campaign in Palestine

 

I always wonder what exactly constitutes the often cited but highly mysterious 'international community'. 

 

Certainly it's not the ordinary people of different countries who demonstrated in their millions against the war on Iraq. Is the 'international community' a mass of compromised and bribed politicians? Or maybe Dr Coleman's Committee of 300?

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On 11/26/2023 at 7:35 PM, Macnamara said:

 

lets build some substance to that statement....

 

by now everyone will have heard of the movement sweeping through academia called 'critical race theory' which is being used to indoctrinate the younger generation as they pass through the universities. It is singling out white people as uniquely 'oppressors' and we can ask ourselves as we look at the sweep of history and all the terrible things that have been carried out by people of all skin colours whether it is the communist murders of tens of millions by the chinese and cambodians or the mongol hordes that swept west wiping out whole cities who would not open their gates to the invaders or the relatively new religion of islam which spread, by the sword, across north africa and across the levant and up into europe until it was banging on the gates of vienna, or the human sacrifices of the incas and aztecs or the slave trade of the jews, arabs and african kings of dahomey etc etc etc

 

clearly 'oppression' is not singularly a white issue!

 

so someone clearly has it in for white people and is spreading a distorted view of history to poison peoples world view against white people. Elon musk recently pointed the finger at 'liberal jews' as the people pushing anti-white racism. If we dig a bit deeper we can see that 'critical race theory' is an outgrowth of CRITICAL THEORY which was introduced, like a cancer, into western universities by the jewish, marxist intellectuals of the FRANKFURT SCHOOL.

 

The frankfurt school left germany as the nazis came into power and were aided into tenure in american universities through the influence of powerful sabbatean billionaires like the rockefellers. The rockefellers grew rich through standard oil company and then created the chase manhattan bank which became one of the private banks which attended a secret meeting on jekyl island in which a plan to create a central bank was hatched. Those handful of private banks clubbed together into a cartel and by subterfuge got the federal reserve bill passed in congress in 1913. And that's where things REALLY started to go wrong for the world!

 

One of that cabal of bankers was jacob schiff who bankrolled a marxist revolutionary by the name of bernstein aka trotsky. Schiff put trotsky in touch with the jewish, masonic b'nai brith group and they prepared an army of revolutionaries with pockets bulging with bankster money to go back to russia to foment a revolution.

 

Schiff had also caused russia harm by funding a complete modernisation of the japanese military and navy which then challenged russia in a sea battle and beat them. Perhaps we could consider if this caused a chain of events that then lead to an imperialist japan bombing pearl harbour and bringing the US into world war 2....

 

Once trotsky and his revolutionaries gained control of russia they murdered over a million christians in 'the terror'. The reason they had been thrown out of russia in the first place is because the rothschilds had created a network of secret societies (these are mentioned in the zionist encycolpedia) which planned to overthrow russia so that the sabbateans could take control. As part of this agenda they assassinated tzar alexander II which lead to a backlash of pogroms against the wider jewish community amongst which the sabbateans were hiding.

 

So all the 'wokery' and mass immigration of today which is being pushed by the authoritarian-left all comes from marxism and the sabbateans and here is a contemporary cartoon depicting karl marx being celebrated by the wall street bankers who continue to fund marxism to this day as part of their CORPORATE SOCIALISM hence why fink's BLACKROCK corporation is pushing woke ESG's onto other corporations

 

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Don't disagree with any of this Jewish Marxists ..

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57 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

had no backbone when hamas snook in by supersonic microlight vehicles

 

douglas murray has gone full on israeli shilling

masks slipping all over the place

 

This conflict just carries on and on, almost as if someone's got an interest in it not finishing. 

 

When we compare it with other conflicts between terrorists or dictators and western states there's plenty of examples where the west gets humiliated by the supposed underdogs. America gave up in Vietnam, the British state lost against the IRA and had to start negotiating concessions, the west lost its war in Afghanistan, and were too scared to get involved in Syria. 

 

The narrative is demoralisation and weakness for the west whereas the plucky little country of Israel comes out on top. 

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2 hours ago, Fluke said:

Or a country that has a backbone. 

I see you didn't comment on the other points I made and then totally disregarded the main question and therefore the entire premise of the post.

I'm not saying one way or another but I think the question I posed is a valid one given my observations of the previous 40 or so years with regards to Israel

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1 hour ago, Campion said:

 

a. 

 

The narrative is demoralisation and weakness for the west whereas the plucky little country of Israel comes out on top. 

 

Plucky little Israel has massacred 1,000 innocent people in 24 hours.

 

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/gaza-witnesses-bloodiest-day-yet-israeli-massacres-enar

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4 hours ago, Velma said:

 

Plucky little Israel has massacred 1,000 innocent people in 24 hours.

 

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/gaza-witnesses-bloodiest-day-yet-israeli-massacres-enar

Plucky little Israel is indeed little - about the size of Wales - but has the 4th largest armed forces in the world. This amazing fact is never commentated on by our tame media and politicians. 

 

Also always ignored is the troubling fact that due to a daft and subservient German government, those armed forces include three state of the art submarines meaning that all of Europe - including Britain - is now in range of Israel's nuclear missiles. 

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4 hours ago, Velma said:

 

That's horrific, and how much of this unequal fight is paid for and equipped with American "aid"? 

 

In theory Palestine should have plenty of rich Islamic brother countries queuing up to support them but Iran is about the only one to help, even then not directly but via their Hezbollah proxy. Instead there's a lot of rhetoric and some humanitarian aid but nothing to even up the battlefield, the other muslims don't put their money where their mouths are.   We are told that more muslim involvement would be an escalation and risk the war spreading; maybe so but in that case why isn't the American input also called escalation? It looks as if Israel is all tooled up to deal with a major invasion from their big neighbours like they were in 1967 and instead use that firepower against their weakest neighbour. 

 

We have long been told from the 19th century up to the cold war that we need a balance of power between countries to secure peace, and mutually assured destruction has kept the peace in Europe since WW2. But Palestine is deliberately being kept weak even by their allies. 

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