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4 hours ago, Campion said:


This is a very unequal war for sure. On the Palestinian side, you're mentioning Hamas by name as the combatants and presumably the bulk of ordinary civilians are innocent bystanders who have the misfortune to be born into a chronic conflict zone. 


On the other side, you're calling out Israel which is the whole country. Is that what you mean, or could there be a controlling faction which are the aggressors and we should be saying "not all Israelis" are responsible for atrocity? Israel does claim itself to be the only well functioning democracy in the middle east which means we need to look at who votes for whom, but they also have conscription into the IDF if I remember correctly so it could be their young people are put into fighting the war whether they want to or not. 


David Icke talks about the Sabbatean Frankists who are the unelected cabal behind this and other agendas. I'm not so well informed on this as people like him, but if we're to avoid stirring up more divide and rule conflict should we be calling out who are the string pullers and who are the pawns? If the ordinary Israelis and ordinary Palestinians could see where the evil originates maybe they'd be more willing to accept each other as neighbours peacefully. 


The MSM call it the Israel-Hamas war, I suppose Zionism vs Islam (and Christianity) would be more accurate. If DI prefers to name the ‘cabal’ after Sabbatai Zevi, the false 17th Century ‘Messiah’ who converted to Islam, that’s fine, but today they are commonly known as the Zionist Entity.


Not all Jews are Zionists and they are also ‘pawns in the game’ along with the “goyim” they are taught to hate. The Kabbalistic ‘secret society’ who govern world affairs will sacrifice their own for the end game, otherwise they would not invite them to migrate to Israel, the least safe place for Jews.


Operation ‘Cast Lead’ in 2008 and ‘Pillar of Cloud’ in 2014 had a 94% approval rating among Jews, Netanyahu’s popularity plummeted for not “finishing the job” which he is doing now. His friend Bezalel Smotrich said Palestinians are there by mistake, because Ben-Gurion didn’t throw them all out in 1948.


However, there is a sea-change and criminal Netanyahu is hated by many Israelis, while Jews throughout the diaspora are opposing Israel’s military campaign against Gaza, saying ‘not in my name’ and ‘never again for everyone.’ That is what is required, international unity to expose and convict the ‘elite.’



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MOAR watch the water snoooz with Roger Waters and Abbey Martin and their perspective on the festivities in Gaza.



Roger Waters and Abby Martin on the Gaza Genocide


Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters has been accused of anti-Semitism after claiming Hamas’s massacre was “thrown out of all proportion”. The guitarist questioned the origins of the Oct 7 attack, which killed 1,400 Israelis, claiming it could have been a “false flag operation”.


Duration 00:54:40



Alternative if it does not play because this channel is regularly restricted due to UK dictatorship rules on what Britannia and her peoples are allowed to watch because they view us as BIG PHUKIN BABIES THAT CAN NOT HANDLE THE TRUTH, aint that right UK dictatorship, MEH!!!

Fearless Nation





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39 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

"from the river to the sea" is trending in uk


After expelling the population, by force, from northern Gaza, to “safety” in the south, where society has broken down and there is no food, water or fuel, Ehud Olmert now claims the ‘beating heart’ of Hamas is in Khan Younis, in southern Gaza.


Therefore, if they plan to root out Hamas, they have deliberately sent civilians into harm’s way. Previously the ‘command center’ was said to be below al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City which the IDF bombed, besieged and raided, then ordered the patients, medics and refugees to leave.


It makes you wonder, if the ‘militants’ were embedded in this hospital and had stores of missiles, guns and munitions in tunnels, why they didn’t come out fighting? No shot was fired by Hamas. The “evidence” Israel produced of the underground “terrorist activity” is laughable, but the dead and injured they left in their wake is abominable.


Now that thousands of exiles have gathered in southern Gaza, Israel intends to repeat its scorched earth policy there, thus driving the Palestinians into the desert of Sinai. Thousands have been massacred in what Israel calls ‘self-defense’ and ‘world powers’ beholden to the International Bankers agree, that it is proportionate and within the bounds of humanitarian law.


Elon Musk declared that ‘From the River to the Sea’ is anti-Semitic because it “necessarily implies a Jewish genocide” while an Israeli MP for the Likud Party, Nissim Vaturi wrote on X, “We are too humane.” His post said, “Burn Gaza now, no less.” This does not merely “imply” genocide, it is actual incitement to genocide and further barbarism.



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On 11/16/2023 at 6:56 AM, JONJAY79 said:

Is this all about Gas ? 


Even this land grab and gas is a stepping stone to the Great reset. 




It's about ideology and supremacism. Kremlin propagandist Jimmy Dore is just deflecting.


>takes part of your country

"We just want peace"


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A new report revealed Saturday that an Israeli military helicopter opened fire on Palestinian gunmen but wounded Israelis participating in a festival during an Oct. 7 attack by Hamas against Israel.


The Haaretz newspaper said an Israeli security assessment was based on an investigation by police with Hamas gunmen who were arrested Oct. 7.


Haaretz reported that the military helicopter arrived at the site of the festival and opened fire on the gunmen but also wounded several festival participants.


It said, according to the assessment, the gunmen had no prior information about the festival which was held close to the Kibbutz Re'im, near the borders with Gaza.


Israel's Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper also published a report on Israeli Air Force helicopters intervening in the attack carried out by Hamas from Gaza on Oct. 7.


The newspaper reported that the Israeli forces “found it difficult to identify Hamas militants,” adding that helicopter pilots “used artillery” against civilians at the festival.


"The Hamas terrorists were instructed to slowly blend in with the crowd and not to move under any circumstances,” the newspaper said it its report.


“In this way, they tried to fool the air force into believing that those below were Israelis. This deception worked for a while, until the Apache helicopters had to break free of all restraints. The pilots found it difficult to distinguish who was a terrorist and who was an Israeli,” the report added.


The newspaper said that "when they realized that, some of them decided to use artillery shells against the terrorists independently, without getting permission from their superiors."


Police estimated that the number killed in the festival was 364, but did not reveal their identities.


The investigation details are contrary to the official Israeli narrative on the attack by the Palestinian resistance group which claimed Hamas gunmen slaughtered the revelers in the festival.




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Former prime minister of Israel Ehud Barak acknowledged in an interview on Monday that the bunkers underneath al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza that have been continually propped up by the Israeli military as a reason that they needed to bomb and raid the facility were actually built by Israel.


In an interview on CNN, Christiane Amanpour asked Barak whether or not he felt the Israeli government has sufficiently proved that the tunnels under al-Shifa were being used as major command centers by Hamas forces.


In response, Barak simply said that “it’s already known for many years that … the bunkers that originally [were] built by Israeli constructors underneath Shifa were used as a command post of the Hamas,” seemingly offering this as proof that Israeli officials’ claims were true.



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On 11/18/2023 at 1:50 PM, Velma said:

Now that thousands of exiles have gathered in southern Gaza, Israel intends to repeat its scorched earth policy there, thus driving the Palestinians into the desert of Sinai. Thousands have been massacred in what Israel calls ‘self-defense’ and ‘world powers’ beholden to the International Bankers agree, that it is proportionate and within the bounds of humanitarian law.


Some might say Israel has the right to protect itself against the cowards that brutally slaughtered innocent young people at a festival? 


Some might also say the Palestinians that allowed hamas in the first place has it coming.


Play stupid games win stupid prizes? 

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3 hours ago, Velma said:

And some might say an Israeli attack helicopter brutally slaughtered innocent young people at the festival.



Terrible article Velma. 


The absolute animals that attacked innocent Israelis at the festival had this coming and the Palestinians that hurled and applauded when a half naked womens corpse being driven through Palestine. What else are they to do?


Do you think Israel has the right to defend itself? 





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33 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

has israel the right to defend itself - yes

did israel defend itself - no

did israel retaliate - yes

is retaliation the same as defending - no


that should clear things up

Oh okay so they shouldn't retaliate then?

What about the Palestinians that allowed themselves to be ruled by hamas? Play stupid games win stupid prizes. 


Hope that clears things up.

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what will you have more to fear - some millions Jews in the world or some Billion - radicalized Muslims?

Answer that for yourself. Muslims give a damn about their own people - they just want to overtake other religions.
We are currently in a dangerous situation in Europe until our gouvernments kick them out - which will be difficult cause their own countrys dont want them back and many have thrown away their passports. They should never been allowed to demonstrate here in the first place.


remember they had water cannons against their own people on anti Covid demos and where are police and water cannons now?



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Israeli false-flag all the way.


Max Igan made a good point recently, and it's basically the qui-bono question.


As if "Hamas" wouldn't know the consequences...they do a pin-prick on Israel, and that's all they could hope for,,, and Israel obliterates Palestine in return. How does "HAMAS" then serve Palestine and Palestinians, or even "HAMAS" itself? They just gave the Israeli government the green light to "utterly destroy" their (supposedly)sworn enemy.

As if anyone wouldn't know...these utter nutcases and their satanic garbage ideology. 

Islam is no better. 


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As soon as the "40 headless babies" propaganda story broke, the Israeli government had this creepy advert ready and were showing it on Youtube adverts (and probably other social media). My brother saw it a couple of days into the 'conflict' on a YT ad. It's in the style of a children's cartoon and features rainbows and unicorns.


It was posted to the Israeli Foreign Affairs Ministry youtube channel on October 11th. And it's still up there now despite no real evidence to support the claim and Israel admitting they can't confirm it.




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