How is Mr.Icke able to sell his books and audibles through Amazon?

[Henrawrian]

Mr.Icke spoke out against censorship from amazon who bans anything that speaks out against globalist agenda in his new book, "The Dream."  Middle of page 420.  If so, how is Mr.Icke able to sell his books and audio books on Amazon??

 

"Mass censorship of those exposing any aspect of the cult agenda for the world....this is why Amazon now dominates the book distribution market and can pivitally decide what is and isn't sold..."  - David Icke, "The Dream", middle of page 420.

Edited October 3, 2023 by Henrawrian

[Grumpy Grapes]

It is bizarre, unless Amazon have ulterior motives. Is there anything in the book that TPTB approve of? Or maybe they are waiting for a backlash. Mind you, there are other controversial books of his on Amazon, eg his 9/11 book. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dream-Extraordinary-Revelation-Who-Where/dp/1838415335/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=156656137371&gclid=CjwKCAjw9-6oBhBaEiwAHv1QvJBjpwprJTb3txU_FIW4PAe86XFEM-jurMizNNgldjlwOnAOJIcNFRoCZhcQAvD_BwE&hvadid=664716729564&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9045784&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9796985494119638093&hvtargid=kwd-2158139545825&hydadcr=13696_2323636&keywords=david+icke+the+dream&qid=1696364558&sr=8-1

Edited October 3, 2023 by Grumpy Grapes

[Grumpy Grapes]

Waterstones, the UK book shop, is also selling some of his books: The Dream and The Trap. 

https://www.waterstones.com/author/david-icke/24617

[Mr Crabtree]

Dr Vernon sells books through Amazon too, I guess it's a jungle out there, I can only agree with Grumpy Grapes, they MUST have ulterior motives I went on Amazon books and started counting, but I stopped counting after 42 titles, it got boring, so I sat down and watched some paint drying!

[Jason57]

Do Amazon know that passage is in the book?

[Henrawrian]

On 10/3/2023 at 3:27 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:

It is bizarre, unless Amazon have ulterior motives. Is there anything in the book that TPTB approve of? Or maybe they are waiting for a backlash. Mind you, there are other controversial books of his on Amazon, eg his 9/11 book. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dream-Extraordinary-Revelation-Who-Where/dp/1838415335/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=156656137371&gclid=CjwKCAjw9-6oBhBaEiwAHv1QvJBjpwprJTb3txU_FIW4PAe86XFEM-jurMizNNgldjlwOnAOJIcNFRoCZhcQAvD_BwE&hvadid=664716729564&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9045784&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9796985494119638093&hvtargid=kwd-2158139545825&hydadcr=13696_2323636&keywords=david+icke+the+dream&qid=1696364558&sr=8-1

What's TPTB stand for?

 

David has all of his books sold on Amazon.  I believe if the globalists are waiting for a backlash, it should've happened decades ago.

 

Sometimes i wonder if Mr.Icke might actually be a controlled opposition similar to Alex Jones (A.K.A. Bill Hicks).  All the banning from 26 countries and social media might possibly be simply a show that brings more followers under him.  The fact that his books are circulated through amazon doesn't make any sense unless this is so.

 

Also, if you check out Ickonic.com, a lot of the videos posted on there goes against Mr.Icke's views on the nature of reality.  It's as if he himself doesn't know the contents he puts on his own platform.

 

I also noticed between the years after 911 through 2005, Mr.Icke's appearance changed DRASTICALLY.  He suddenly aged incredibly all the sudden similar to Alex Jones.  Makes me wonder if the David Icke we see today is the real David Icke.  Plastic surgery is remarkable nowadays...

 

I wish what Mr.Icke says regarding the Nature of Reality is true.  I just hope he's truly not part of the cult and he truly is David Icke.

[Grumpy Grapes]

3 minutes ago, Henrawrian said:

What's TPTB stand for?

 

David has all of his books sold on Amazon.  I believe if the globalists are waiting for a backlash, it should've happened decades ago.

 

Sometimes i wonder if Mr.Icke might actually be a controlled opposition similar to Alex Jones (A.K.A. Bill Hicks).  All the banning from 26 countries and social media might possibly be simply a show that brings more followers under him.  The fact that his books are circulated through amazon doesn't make any sense unless this is so.

 

Also, if you check out Ickonic.com, a lot of the videos posted on there goes against Mr.Icke's views on the nature of reality.  It's as if he himself doesn't know the contents he puts on his own platform.

 

I also noticed between the years after 911 through 2005, Mr.Icke's appearance changed DRASTICALLY.  He suddenly aged incredibly all the sudden similar to Alex Jones.  Makes me wonder if the David Icke we see today is the real David Icke.  Plastic surgery is remarkable nowadays...

 

I wish what Mr.Icke says regarding the Nature of Reality is true.  I just hope he's truly not part of the cult and he truly is David Icke.

 

TPTB = the powers that be = the ruling elite. 

 

I've long thought that David has been unwittingly manipulated into the position he's in today, so he could be considered as controlled opposition. Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation simultaneously published his early books and some of the newspapers that subsequently mocked him. 

 

He has been censored, but not to the point where he couldn't do what he's done so far. That could be coming to an end soon, the way things are going. 

 

He doesn't agree with everything on his website, especially this forum. 

 

His hair turned white back in the 1990s, probably due to stress during his 'turquoise period'. 

 

[Henrawrian]

3 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

TPTB = the powers that be = the ruling elite. 

 

I've long thought that David has been unwittingly manipulated into the position he's in today, so he could be considered as controlled opposition. Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation simultaneously published his early books and some of the newspapers that subsequently mocked him. 

 

He has been censored, but not to the point where he couldn't do what he's done so far. That could be coming to an end soon, the way things are going. 

 

He doesn't agree with everything on his website, especially this forum. 

 

His hair turned white back in the 1990s, probably due to stress during his 'turquoise period'. 

 

It wasn't just his hair color that changed.  It seems everything about him physically has changed.

 

He says in several of his books that the reason why our bodies age and "die" is because that is what we believe.  Therefore, that is what manifests.  If so, why does Mr.Icke grow old?  If he dies, will his body computer vanish?  He claims that he is very often in another state of consciousness throughout his days in his nrw book, "The Dream."  This means he believes this world and everything in it is false reality more than most of us.  Makes me wonder why he aged and changed so much within a 4 year period. 

 

He claims in his books that he doesn't allow negativity, including anger and stress, into his life after his mind blew up.  If he changed so much physically due to stress, he's basically contradicting what he's been saying for years.  He also says getting angry is a choice and that he doesn't get upset when people mock him. He sure seems upset enough to mention Russel Brandt and Joe Rogan multiple times throughout the year through interviews and books. Stuff like this makes me wonder about the validity of his words. 

[Grumpy Grapes]

8 minutes ago, Henrawrian said:

It wasn't just his hair color that changed.  It seems everything about him physically has changed.

 

He says in several of his books that the reason why our bodies age and "die" is because that is what we believe.  Therefore, that is what manifests.  If so, why does Mr.Icke grow old?  If he dies, will his body computer vanish?  He claims that he is very often in another state of consciousness throughout his days in his nrw book, "The Dream."  This means he believes this world and everything in it is false reality more than most of us.  Makes me wonder why he aged and changed so much within a 4 year period. 

 

He claims in his books that he doesn't allow negativity, including anger and stress, into his life after his mind blew up.  If he changed so much physically due to stress, he's basically contradicting what he's been saying for years.  He also says getting angry is a choice and that he doesn't get upset when people mock him. He sure seems upset enough to mention Russel Brandt and Joe Rogan multiple times throughout the year through interviews and books. Stuff like this makes me wonder about the validity of his words. 

 

I believe him to be, for the most part, a decent guy, but I think there has been a lot of emotion over the years that he has either suppressed or kept private.

 

Except for his autobiography, he is reluctant, understandably, to acknowledge his mistakes in public. 

[Grumpy Owl]

On 10/4/2023 at 10:45 PM, Henrawrian said:

Also, if you check out Ickonic.com, a lot of the videos posted on there goes against Mr.Icke's views on the nature of reality.  It's as if he himself doesn't know the contents he puts on his own platform.

 

Ickonic is not David Icke's platform, it is a venture that was set up by his sons Gareth and Jaymie, and which happens to host a lot of David's videos.

[Henrawrian]

On 10/7/2023 at 10:24 AM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Ickonic is not David Icke's platform, it is a venture that was set up by his sons Gareth and Jaymie, and which happens to host a lot of David's videos.

Doesn't David ever see what's posted on Ickonic?  Or his davidicke.com website?  I see so many monetary links that contradict what he's trying to say on his website.  There's even monetary links to Elon Musk, making him seem like a hero with his CDB Gummies. I seriously dunno what's going on.  Things are going out of control.  I don't know what to believe anymore.  David says one thing, but his Ickonic platform and website says another.

[Talorgan]

2 hours ago, Henrawrian said:

Doesn't David ever see what's posted on Ickonic?  Or his davidicke.com website?  I see so many monetary links that contradict what he's trying to say on his website.  There's even monetary links to Elon Musk, making him seem like a hero with his CDB Gummies. I seriously dunno what's going on.  Things are going out of control.  I don't know what to believe anymore.  David says one thing, but his Ickonic platform and website says another.

I think the thing is to trust ones own

 senses and critical thinking about any subject .

Eg looking up sources of information etc 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Talorgan

[Ynot Hump]

The answer to the original question is.... MONEY

[Grumpy Grapes]

David's book was first published on September 1st, just over a week before the film premiere of "Dream Scenario", on 9/9/23.

[Certified Green of Heart]

On 10/9/2023 at 5:54 AM, Henrawrian said:

Doesn't David ever see what's posted on Ickonic?  Or his davidicke.com website?  I see so many monetary links that contradict what he's trying to say on his website.  There's even monetary links to Elon Musk, making him seem like a hero with his CDB Gummies. I seriously dunno what's going on.  Things are going out of control.  I don't know what to believe anymore.  David says one thing, but his Ickonic platform and website says another.

 

Interesting, thanks for the tip off *so to speak*. (Depending on how out of control this potentially is).... but from me just as a random person I couldn't validate any of this, as I don't immersed enough in Ickonic at present as compared to DI's strictly own stuff.... but yeah interesting enough I suppose.

[Certified Green of Heart]

On 10/4/2023 at 11:12 PM, Henrawrian said:

It wasn't just his hair color that changed.  It seems everything about him physically has changed.

 

He says in several of his books that the reason why our bodies age and "die" is because that is what we believe.  Therefore, that is what manifests.  If so, why does Mr.Icke grow old?  If he dies, will his body computer vanish?  He claims that he is very often in another state of consciousness throughout his days in his nrw book, "The Dream."  This means he believes this world and everything in it is false reality more than most of us.  Makes me wonder why he aged and changed so much within a 4 year period. 

 

He claims in his books that he doesn't allow negativity, including anger and stress, into his life after his mind blew up.  If he changed so much physically due to stress, he's basically contradicting what he's been saying for years.  He also says getting angry is a choice and that he doesn't get upset when people mock him. He sure seems upset enough to mention Russel Brandt and Joe Rogan multiple times throughout the year through interviews and books. Stuff like this makes me wonder about the validity of his words. 

 

It's a reasoned enough assessment, but so is what Grumpy Grapes says after you! 

 

Good input nevertheless, and who doesn't wish that aging is something we could have better control of, anyway it's always worth pointing this and other things out either way.....Peace.

[Certified Green of Heart]

On 10/4/2023 at 11:01 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:

His hair turned white back in the 1990s, probably due to stress during his 'turquoise period'. 

 

Is this torquoise period, a known saying or one you invented?  Just wondering if so, about what inspired that phrase as such AND what does it mean exactly? 

 

...........So, since torquoise is a color too, I ASSUME that is being used in a rather different context to his hair turning gray or white etc?  Just can't think back to a time I've seen or heard that phrase before.

[Certified Green of Heart]

11 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

David's book was first published on September 1st, just over a week before the film premiere of "Dream Scenario", on 9/9/23.

 

And on this other matter, what is the possible consequence or relevance there? 

Not to say it doesn't exist, but I have not heard of a film Dream Scenario. (I am not exactly on the tip of everything)

sooooo annyway......Apart from the word Dream? What is to be read into this if anything by your opinion please?

[Grumpy Grapes]

5 hours ago, Certified Green of Heart said:

 

Is this torquoise period, a known saying or one you invented?  Just wondering if so, about what inspired that phrase as such AND what does it mean exactly? 

 

...........So, since torquoise is a color too, I ASSUME that is being used in a rather different context to his hair turning gray or white etc?  Just can't think back to a time I've seen or heard that phrase before.

It's David's expression, used in his autobiography to describe the time back in the early 1990s when he was wearing turquoise clothes and was struggling to deal with overwhelming psychic energies and new challenging information. 

 

[Grumpy Grapes]

6 hours ago, Certified Green of Heart said:

 

And on this other matter, what is the possible consequence or relevance there? 

Not to say it doesn't exist, but I have not heard of a film Dream Scenario. (I am not exactly on the tip of everything)

sooooo annyway......Apart from the word Dream? What is to be read into this if anything by your opinion please?

 

The film is on general release in November, so you'll see it soon. Did they know what David was writing about? 

 

More generally, do the Ruling Elite approve of some of his esoteric/'New Age' beliefs? I think so, e.g. intuition. 

 

[Hegel Schmegel]

On 11/1/2023 at 7:49 AM, Certified Green of Heart said:

 

Is this torquoise period, a known saying or one you invented?  Just wondering if so, about what inspired that phrase as such AND what does it mean exactly? 

 

...........So, since torquoise is a color too, I ASSUME that is being used in a rather different context to his hair turning gray or white etc?  Just can't think back to a time I've seen or heard that phrase before.

 

Despite my overall skepticism of Richard Cox and the impression he likes to give of being open-minded and objective in his smoothly articulate analysis of conspiracy theories & a few of the major personalities operating in the subculture who espouse them, I would still recommend to Ickettes and DIF newbies interested in learning more about David Icke's 'turquoise period' and his subsequent transition from jumpsuit to parapolitical pantaloons their checking out a few episodes of Cox's "Deep State Consciousness" podcast (even though I do not follow the show myself, as a part of me suspects Cox of being a crypto-normie, or possibly an intelligent asset or agent). Still, the following is a list of a few episodes he's done in his commendably fairly neutral coverage of David Icke's 'turquoise period':

 

September 16, 2021

"Contemplating Conspiracy: Madness or Magician? Encounters with David Icke"

January 7, 2022

"Reading David Icke: The Truth Vibrations"

February 5, 2022

"Reading David Icke: Heal the World"

April 24, 2022

"Reading David Icke: The Robots' Rebellion"

August 11, 2022

"Reading David Icke: I Am Free, I Am Me"

February 15, 2023

"Reading David Icke: The Biggest Secret"

 

On 10/3/2023 at 8:03 AM, Henrawrian said:

Mr.Icke spoke out against censorship from amazon who bans anything that speaks out against globalist agenda in his new book, "The Dream."  Middle of page 420.  If so, how is Mr.Icke able to sell his books and audio books on Amazon??

 

"Mass censorship of those exposing any aspect of the cult agenda for the world....this is why Amazon now dominates the book distribution market and can pivitally decide what is and isn't sold..."  - David Icke, "The Dream", middle of page 420.

 

It could be a case of Amazon serving as an information gatherer, the way many suspected Facebook of being a CIA creation, designed for the (covert) purpose of data mining. Perhaps the controllers want to know who is buying David Icke and Ezra Levant books, should FEMA ever come to town. Only speculating here. I do know that a lot of book reviews of 'controversial' authors that are submitted and (curiously) approved on Amazon remain hidden from the view of those interested in the reviewer's entire site contributions, thus making these available only to a very narrow readership, as they likely want to keep exposure to these types of works to a bare minimum.

[Hegel Schmegel]

On 10/4/2023 at 5:45 PM, Henrawrian said:

I also noticed between the years after 911 through 2005, Mr.Icke's appearance changed DRASTICALLY.  He suddenly aged incredibly all the sudden similar to Alex Jones.  Makes me wonder if the David Icke we see today is the real David Icke.  Plastic surgery is remarkable nowadays...

 

I've observed this, myself. If you compare Icke on the cover of the 2018 book Everything You Wanted To Know But Were Never Told (up on Amazon, by the way) with the bright, smiling, softer image of him as shown on the back cover of The Biggest Secret (1999), there's definitely a striking contrast and one can understand how one might think these photos to be of two different persons. Still, I think his sons would know if their father was an imposter. But in all seriousness, I personally think this apparent anomaly can be chalked up to mere entropy and the wear and tear that comes with the territory, of speaking truth to power.

 

More to the point of this thread, I would have to disagree with Icke's comment as expressed in his new book (hereinabove quoted), about Amazon censoring authors into exposing the global cult system. I haven't found this to be the case at all. A search of numerous conspiracy writers along the same vein of Icke turns up in the Amazon search engine.

 

As one who hasn't read his latest book, I don't know if Icke provides any examples to back up this claim. Has any of his own books ever been removed from Amazon?

 

I can only think of a few titles that Amazon has banned/removed, and probably only due to outside influences, be they anti-Constitution forces and of the dark, or otherwise.

 

Interestingly, if not tellingly, Flat Earth appears to be one of the greatest of taboo subjects, with several known titles into promoting this theory nowhere to be found on Amazon.

 

As anyone who has been raised in a religious cult/sect knows, truth should always be able to withstand any purported falsehoods, and yet with many of these groups, members are warned to stay clear of literature critical of their belief system, and told that such reading material is full of lies and of the Devil and that it would only work to weaken their faith, when in fact it is often the very information these lost souls need to hear the most.

 

On 10/4/2023 at 5:45 PM, Henrawrian said:

All the banning from 26 countries and social media might possibly be simply a show that brings more followers under him.  The fact that his books are circulated through amazon doesn't make any sense unless this is so.

 

Some critics of David Icke assume that his main reason for being so upset over being banned in these European countries is because these bans cut into his lecture circuit income, that has tickets reportedly sometimes selling for close to $100 a piece. (Anyone who does an online search and has seen David Icke's estimated net worth knows that he doesn't need the money.) They go onto say that even if Icke is banned from in-person speaking in these lands that these audiences are not banned from simply getting the same basic information from his books and from off his website.

[QueenRia]

The cult still has to operate through laws and through people, and I think they need an official, "lawful" reason in order to ban something, and also the platform itself doesn't do it automatically, there needs to be a powerful lobby (like a BigPharma lobby) or politician or whatever, that says a specific book is to be banned. The dictatorship is not officially in place yet, so they would also need a very believable reason for the greater public to ban a well-known author like David Icke, and for the people in the book industry/on Amazon who are carrying out the ban. I believe the cult would rather not draw too much attention to him, and banning his books would raise A LOT of public attention, and need A LOT of explaining... 

In the beginning they worked through ridicule, and no one was talking Mr. Icke seriously anyway. Now it's too late. So many books are out there. They are going to massively expose themselves if they suddenly officially not let him on Amazon or Audible.

[Henrawrian]

On 11/5/2023 at 9:50 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

 

Despite my overall skepticism of Richard Cox and the impression he likes to give of being open-minded and objective in his smoothly articulate analysis of conspiracy theories & a few of the major personalities operating in the subculture who espouse them, I would still recommend to Ickettes and DIF newbies interested in learning more about David Icke's 'turquoise period' and his subsequent transition from jumpsuit to parapolitical pantaloons their checking out a few episodes of Cox's "Deep State Consciousness" podcast (even though I do not follow the show myself, as a part of me suspects Cox of being a crypto-normie, or possibly an intelligent asset or agent). Still, the following is a list of a few episodes he's done in his commendably fairly neutral coverage of David Icke's 'turquoise period':

 

September 16, 2021

"Contemplating Conspiracy: Madness or Magician? Encounters with David Icke"

January 7, 2022

"Reading David Icke: The Truth Vibrations"

February 5, 2022

"Reading David Icke: Heal the World"

April 24, 2022

"Reading David Icke: The Robots' Rebellion"

August 11, 2022

"Reading David Icke: I Am Free, I Am Me"

February 15, 2023

"Reading David Icke: The Biggest Secret"

 

 

It could be a case of Amazon serving as an information gatherer, the way many suspected Facebook of being a CIA creation, designed for the (covert) purpose of data mining. Perhaps the controllers want to know who is buying David Icke and Ezra Levant books, should FEMA ever come to town. Only speculating here. I do know that a lot of book reviews of 'controversial' authors that are submitted and (curiously) approved on Amazon remain hidden from the view of those interested in the reviewer's entire site contributions, thus making these available only to a very narrow readership, as they likely want to keep exposure to these types of works to a bare minimum.

I never thought of it that way.  It's very possible, like you said, that it builds a clear list of individuals that can be targetted for fema enslavement.

[Henrawrian]

On 11/19/2023 at 4:17 AM, QueenRia said:

The cult still has to operate through laws and through people, and I think they need an official, "lawful" reason in order to ban something, and also the platform itself doesn't do it automatically, there needs to be a powerful lobby (like a BigPharma lobby) or politician or whatever, that says a specific book is to be banned. The dictatorship is not officially in place yet, so they would also need a very believable reason for the greater public to ban a well-known author like David Icke, and for the people in the book industry/on Amazon who are carrying out the ban. I believe the cult would rather not draw too much attention to him, and banning his books would raise A LOT of public attention, and need A LOT of explaining... 

In the beginning they worked through ridicule, and no one was talking Mr. Icke seriously anyway. Now it's too late. So many books are out there. They are going to massively expose themselves if they suddenly officially not let him on Amazon or Audible.

That makes sense.  It would do more harm for the globalists to ban his books.  Banning it would draw more attention by creating the question of "what is it that the media doesn't want us to know?"