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15 hours ago, FraggleRed said:

This is fantastic. I love the sentiment here, and how it gets directly to the heart of what is to be done. I fully agree. It is the time for action.

 

They can not hide behind the technocratic excuse of not being Physicians nor Scientists and having to rely on the advice of the afore mentioned, fraud has already been admitted to, and not just the fraud that pfizer committed, the whole sorry episode, all of it, was nothing but fraud waged against, We, the People and facilitated by the MSM fraudcasters for circa one and a half years on all channels, all formats 24/7 without escape, along with force, the threat of force, intimidation and fear, and that all adds up to crimes against Mankind and treason.

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On 1/28/2024 at 5:10 PM, Puzzle said:

Well now they have advanced tech to stop you doing anything about it and it’s only going to get worse. Being interfered with mentally and physically when you know it’s happening. I’d say when it gets to the stage that they’d stop you checking out of your own accord but it’s not ‘when’ anymore is it!

 

The sheep don’t know they’re someones ’bitch’

 

Yet.

 

Until something changes to stop that tech, we’re fucked. No one’s coming forward to show us how to stop it. Knowing what it is isn’t stopping it.

 

You can change your thought pattern all you want they’ll change it back again for you.

 

 

Unless.......

 

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Maybe!!!!

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So David gives us a solution at 1 hr 14mins, https://davidicke.com/2024/02/03/yes-the-real-reason-for-covid-fake-vaccines/

Basically, the DS is transmitting the mindcontrol using the MSM, 5G, HAARP etc...

WE on the other hand can use the natural network which has always been in place, called 'field' and we are ALL connected.

This is like Enki vs Enlil situation here. One is into tech, the brother is all for natural way.

 

Start sending your thoughts out there. Raise your vibration and be an example.

People don't want to be slaves, they look to what is fun and that is what we need to create.

 

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On 1/30/2024 at 7:35 PM, DaleP said:

You know this doesn't work. We've been there many times.

Even if we were to collect a large number of signatures, it will get closed if it doesn't suit them. It has already been done.

 

I was being a bit tongue in cheek. But it does actually hint at a solution.

 

Non conformity, loss of trust - i.e. withdraw consent to be governed.

 

The fact is our system IS based on Rousseau's Social Contract theory. Back when I was researching FMOTL I registered with a Legal Service that allowed me to ask questions to specialist Barristers. I contacted one who specialized in our constitutions and it was confirmed that we British are Governed by Consent as laid out by Rousseau. It still holds force today.

 

So what does that mean.

 

It means our Government only has authority to rule us if we consent to that rule, i.e. if we agree with the government actions.

 

Now you can't trigger a new system just because you don't like a policy, that ain't going to cut it. Its basically that we agree to be Governed, good or bad, unless it gets tyrannical.

 

However, we are 'in' the system and we only have the tools provided to us by the system that we can use.

 

There is another method, and that would be violent revolution, but we know that doesn't always go well and its not what most people want.

 

In regard to violent, there's a very good reason it doesn't work. Again its our social contract with the government. Any uprising unless it is the entire population can be seen as a minority, and as long as the government holds the consent of the majority then any force can be justified to maintain order. The Police and Forces will have to obey the system. In the EU lethal force is authorized.

 

So unless you can match their fire power, when it comes to violent uprising, the government holds the legitimate legal cards to do what it wants.

Only if the Police and Forces KNOW the people, all of them, agree they no longer agree to be governed by the authorities could the forces side with the government. But things have to get really bad before that happens. We're nowhere near that point.

 

So we follow Gandhi's lead. Non conformity on mass scale to signal we no longer consent to be ruled as we have been.

 

To do that, using the tools of the system, as best as I can tell, simply means NOT voting en masse.

 

If everybody was to not vote at the next general election, that would legitimately signal that the Public have lost confidence in BOTH/ALL Parties and no longer agree for things to go on as they are.

 

I would suggest to make this legally tight, a register should be set up and a campaign started to explain the reasons and the solution of not voting to signal withdrawal of consent of our Social Contract and encourage people to sign in advance to signal their intent.

 

That way, when there are low turnouts in the Polls, the Government can't just claim it was a low turnout but still counts, if millions of people have signed a list to say they do not intend to vote because they no longer have faith in the political parties, and wish to withdraw their consent to be governed by them, and then do not turn up to vote, then that will prove it was an action taken by the Public to peacefully and legitimately signal loss of faith in the system as it is and end our contract with the government.

 

If it works, what happens after that, f*ck knows.

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1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

I was being a bit tongue in cheek. But it does actually hint at a solution.

 

Non conformity, loss of trust - i.e. withdraw consent to be governed.

 

The fact is our system IS based on Rousseau's Social Contract theory. Back when I was researching FMOTL I registered with a Legal Service that allowed me to ask questions to specialist Barristers. I contacted one who specialized in our constitutions and it was confirmed that we British are Governed by Consent as laid out by Rousseau. It still holds force today.

 

So what does that mean.

 

It means our Government only has authority to rule us if we consent to that rule, i.e. if we agree with the government actions.

 

Now you can't trigger a new system just because you don't like a policy, that ain't going to cut it. Its basically that we agree to be Governed, good or bad, unless it gets tyrannical.

 

However, we are 'in' the system and we only have the tools provided to us by the system that we can use.

 

There is another method, and that would be violent revolution, but we know that doesn't always go well and its not what most people want.

 

In regard to violent, there's a very good reason it doesn't work. Again its our social contract with the government. Any uprising unless it is the entire population can be seen as a minority, and as long as the government holds the consent of the majority then any force can be justified to maintain order. The Police and Forces will have to obey the system. In the EU lethal force is authorized.

 

So unless you can match their fire power, when it comes to violent uprising, the government holds the legitimate legal cards to do what it wants.

Only if the Police and Forces KNOW the people, all of them, agree they no longer agree to be governed by the authorities could the forces side with the government. But things have to get really bad before that happens. We're nowhere near that point.

 

So we follow Gandhi's lead. Non conformity on mass scale to signal we no longer consent to be ruled as we have been.

 

To do that, using the tools of the system, as best as I can tell, simply means NOT voting en masse.

 

If everybody was to not vote at the next general election, that would legitimately signal that the Public have lost confidence in BOTH/ALL Parties and no longer agree for things to go on as they are.

 

I would suggest to make this legally tight, a register should be set up and a campaign started to explain the reasons and the solution of not voting to signal withdrawal of consent of our Social Contract and encourage people to sign in advance to signal their intent.

 

That way, when there are low turnouts in the Polls, the Government can't just claim it was a low turnout but still counts, if millions of people have signed a list to say they do not intend to vote because they no longer have faith in the political parties, and wish to withdraw their consent to be governed by them, and then do not turn up to vote, then that will prove it was an action taken by the Public to peacefully and legitimately signal loss of faith in the system as it is and end our contract with the government.

 

If it works, what happens after that, f*ck knows.

 

Agree with all of the above, what we have been doing here is building the case against them, a slow escalation of events that are now happening in very many places, they have no where to hide, we know who they are, all they can do is stall for time and carry out distractions, misdirection's and interference with what they have left at their disposal, continue to turn over every stone and expose them for what they are and have done, eventually even the money will run out and no longer be able to afford the bribes and payments for services rendered, and those that were enticed by such temptations will just walk away, one by one the legs of this tentacled beast will be hacked off.

 

On 2/4/2024 at 4:04 AM, DaleP said:

Basically, the DS is transmitting the mindcontrol using the MSM, 5G, HAARP etc...

WE on the other hand can use the natural network which has always been in place, called 'field' and we are ALL connected.

 

Exactly, time to focus with the collective unconscious, find the truth and project it back to the field with love, overcome the [D]ark [S]ide actors whom do the same, they can not stand in the light.

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17 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

I was being a bit tongue in cheek. But it does actually hint at a solution.

 

Non conformity, loss of trust - i.e. withdraw consent to be governed.

 

The fact is our system IS based on Rousseau's Social Contract theory. Back when I was researching FMOTL I registered with a Legal Service that allowed me to ask questions to specialist Barristers. I contacted one who specialized in our constitutions and it was confirmed that we British are Governed by Consent as laid out by Rousseau. It still holds force today.

 

So what does that mean.

 

It means our Government only has authority to rule us if we consent to that rule, i.e. if we agree with the government actions.

 

Now you can't trigger a new system just because you don't like a policy, that ain't going to cut it. Its basically that we agree to be Governed, good or bad, unless it gets tyrannical.

 

However, we are 'in' the system and we only have the tools provided to us by the system that we can use.

 

There is another method, and that would be violent revolution, but we know that doesn't always go well and its not what most people want.

 

In regard to violent, there's a very good reason it doesn't work. Again its our social contract with the government. Any uprising unless it is the entire population can be seen as a minority, and as long as the government holds the consent of the majority then any force can be justified to maintain order. The Police and Forces will have to obey the system. In the EU lethal force is authorized.

 

So unless you can match their fire power, when it comes to violent uprising, the government holds the legitimate legal cards to do what it wants.

Only if the Police and Forces KNOW the people, all of them, agree they no longer agree to be governed by the authorities could the forces side with the government. But things have to get really bad before that happens. We're nowhere near that point.

 

So we follow Gandhi's lead. Non conformity on mass scale to signal we no longer consent to be ruled as we have been.

 

To do that, using the tools of the system, as best as I can tell, simply means NOT voting en masse.

 

If everybody was to not vote at the next general election, that would legitimately signal that the Public have lost confidence in BOTH/ALL Parties and no longer agree for things to go on as they are.

 

I would suggest to make this legally tight, a register should be set up and a campaign started to explain the reasons and the solution of not voting to signal withdrawal of consent of our Social Contract and encourage people to sign in advance to signal their intent.

 

That way, when there are low turnouts in the Polls, the Government can't just claim it was a low turnout but still counts, if millions of people have signed a list to say they do not intend to vote because they no longer have faith in the political parties, and wish to withdraw their consent to be governed by them, and then do not turn up to vote, then that will prove it was an action taken by the Public to peacefully and legitimately signal loss of faith in the system as it is and end our contract with the government.

 

If it works, what happens after that, f*ck knows.

 

Thanks for asking the barristers on our behalf.

 

You can try to change what's in the light but its effect is minimal whereas there are people who have been opening portals where the old gods have been kept locked up. They had a vision of building a beautiful place, a natural world, utopia. The task was completed last year. Someone who is a part of secret society, so secret that the names, houses have never been mentioned in the forum, said that this year is going to be the judgment day per the bible. It ends there as far as the Christian prediction goes but another era is starting. He said that unlike the Jesus era, everybody needs to be a saviour hence the houses are releasing info which was not disclosed before. One of the houses hold information on how the pyramid stones were moved and as we have discussed it correctly....using sound. This written record is a several thousand years old. People from this house live longer than average people....like their average age is 100-year old and the secret is in the water they drink.

 

So my point is not to get complacent just because there are others who are changing the world, keep on doing your own bit, inject your contribution to the morphogenetic field. This year is all about pus coming out so we'll still have a bumpy ride for a year or two but I think we are moving in the right direction. Have faith because that vision you hold, we collectively share will manifest. And ignore the NPCs. You do you. Don't waste your time or energy. It's a done deal. You are either in it or not.

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Look at the power of morphogenetic field in play ->Metronome synchronisation

If this is the case, placing a word under a glass of water will transfer that energy.

So who or what are you aligning with? Truth, the most high I hope.

Metronomes are powerful, are we? 😛

 

EDIT: and look at this and see what isolation does. Once the separation were removed...

You know why tptb wanted us all locked up in our home.

 

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On 1/30/2024 at 7:46 PM, DaleP said:

 

Well you know there is no law against the use of that 'tech' whatsoever. Hence it is not regulated and they are free to do whatever they like with it especially nobody but only a few knows it is being used. Let's keep that hash hash eh?

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

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I see things havent improved on this thread. All that seems to happen is people sharing info which is fine. But in the world nothing has changed or improved yet. The OP said 'That we have talked enough' yet thats all that happens here. What are people waiting for? A saviour.

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36 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

I see things havent improved on this thread. All that seems to happen is people sharing info which is fine. But in the world nothing has changed or improved yet. The OP said 'That we have talked enough' yet thats all that happens here. What are people waiting for? A saviour.

Your quite right. It’s in our DNA.

We were brought up in a Christian society. We worshipped the image of our society’s saviour dying in excruciating pain. Once we’ve got our new saviour to take all the responsibility for our lives, to take all the blame, then we’ll kill him. 
We are savage brutes pretending to be civilised, good people. 
 

Its all our own fault

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13 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Your quite right. It’s in our DNA.

We were brought up in a Christian society. We worshipped the image of our society’s saviour dying in excruciating pain. Once we’ve got our new saviour to take all the responsibility for our lives, to take all the blame, then we’ll kill him. 
We are savage brutes pretending to be civilised, good people. 
 

Its all our own fault

 

But everyone is at a different stage of evolution so let NPCs be NPC. What matters is you and how you proceed because everyone has free will.

I have lost will to talk to people. Not trying to be someone high up there and EGO is something we need to watch out because that is a trap.

But it has become like talking to primary school children, you try to discuss the Quantum theory with 7-year old...... Let them entertain themselves with tiktok. I'll pass. lol

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34 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

But everyone is at a different stage of evolution so let NPCs be NPC. What matters is you and how you proceed because everyone has free will.

I have lost will to talk to people. Not trying to be someone high up there and EGO is something we need to watch out because that is a trap.

But it has become like talking to primary school children, you try to discuss the Quantum theory with 7-year old...... Let them entertain themselves with tiktok. I'll pass. lol

Most people as you say watch tiktok,BBC or CNN and totally believe in all the crap. What hope do we have when these lemmings go over the cliff? What difference is it going to make if i dont go along with them,they will take us with them,and free will wont matter a fuck.

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1 hour ago, DaleP said:

 

But everyone is at a different stage of evolution so let NPCs be NPC. What matters is you and how you proceed because everyone has free will.

I have lost will to talk to people. Not trying to be someone high up there and EGO is something we need to watch out because that is a trap.

But it has become like talking to primary school children, you try to discuss the Quantum theory with 7-year old...... Let them entertain themselves with tiktok. I'll pass. lol

Bullshit, as you well know. Like I said, shame on you.

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1 hour ago, Captainlove said:

I see things havent improved on this thread. All that seems to happen is people sharing info which is fine. But in the world nothing has changed or improved yet. The OP said 'That we have talked enough' yet thats all that happens here. What are people waiting for? A saviour.

 

Ok but this is a forum, it's where people come to talk. People are doing some things, and not doing other things to disengage from the agenda. Most of us are doing something as isolated individuals though so it doesn't seem to add up to much in aggregate. When people do get organised, is when there's a backlash because that's seen as more of a threat. When you say saviour do you mean a leader? Yes I recognise there's risks to that too. It's a big dilemma, to get behind leaders and organise ourselves or to stay as we are, atomised. 

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2 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

But everyone is at a different stage of evolution so let NPCs be NPC. What matters is you and how you proceed because everyone has free will.

I have lost will to talk to people. Not trying to be someone high up there and EGO is something we need to watch out because that is a trap.

But it has become like talking to primary school children, you try to discuss the Quantum theory with 7-year old...... Let them entertain themselves with tiktok. I'll pass. lol

Free will is what we have, but never really use, because we want to survive. A few different saviours used their free will in the past, and they got killed for it. 
 

Although I do agree, society- particularly the teens to 25 yr olds, have become really malicious and dumbed down, the ones I’ve come into contact with anyway. They don’t fuck around and have a brutal desperate mindset. 

1 hour ago, Captainlove said:

Most people as you say watch tiktok,BBC or CNN and totally believe in all the crap. What hope do we have when these lemmings go over the cliff? What difference is it going to make if i dont go along with them,they will take us with them,and free will wont matter a fuck.

Exactly, your either a lemming at the front- first off the cliff, or a lemming at the back, reluctantly shuffling off last. As the old saying goes- we’re all in this together. To think anything different means you are no longer human

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2 hours ago, Captainlove said:

Most people as you say watch tiktok,BBC or CNN and totally believe in all the crap. What hope do we have when these lemmings go over the cliff? What difference is it going to make if i dont go along with them,they will take us with them,and free will wont matter a fuck.

 

I don't waste my time or energy on tiktokers. They can jump all their like. They will just get stuck in hell, recycled. I'll be dying in peace knowing I have friends in deep dark places. 😆

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Hi , the legal system is part of the "matrix" , the clowns have done their act & now it's time for the jugglers, legal will not cut it , without excuses act for yourself & your family, exodus from cities is a priority, , motorhome living , rural living , river canals, or maybe change country 🤔  cities will be the 1st to feel the impact, of reset. I moved from the UK to Brasil 20 yrs ago , the writing was already on the wall, now I look at Paraguay or Uruguay,  land for freedom lovers to thrive & survive , use their own law systems etc, do no harm & respect for others. 

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Piers Corbyn is trying to start a political party, in addition to running (or trying to run) for Mayor of London, though he's in fundraising mode at the moment (£25,000. He's optimistic).

 

https://theunitedfront.uk/

 

It's a shame he doesn't team up with Louise Creffield and others, instead of them all going it alone. 

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Talking of Louise Creffield, she gives an update on her campaign and a shift in her outlook:

 

"However, the truth has dawned on me: I don't want to spend my life in perpetual combat, fighting against the tide until my dying day. So today, I am making a pivotal shift. I'm choosing to no longer focus my energy on what the government is or isn't doing.

 

Instead, I am dedicating myself solely to finding the solution. What can we create together? This is the essence of our new, big campaign. While we've been quiet publicly, please know that work has been fervently progressing in the background.

 

However, as we edge closer to launching this monumental campaign, we're confronted with financial hurdles that threaten to stall our progress. This is where we need your help more than ever. If you haven't had a chance to donate yet, please consider doing so now. Your support could be the difference that enables us to bring our vision to life. If you're curious about the work we've been doing behind the scenes,

 

This shift in focus will define our journey from now on. I invite you to join me on Thursday 29th February at 7:30pm for a live session where I will explain more about our new direction and how you can be a part of it.

 

I encourage you to watch our previous live sessions, where we dive deeper into our plans and progress."

 

Previous sessions:

 

 

 

 

 

 

BE PART OF CREATING THE NEW

 

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On 2/7/2024 at 11:35 AM, pi3141 said:

Non conformity, loss of trust - i.e. withdraw consent to be governed.

 

The fact is our system IS based on Rousseau's Social Contract theory. Back when I was researching FMOTL I registered with a Legal Service that allowed me to ask questions to specialist Barristers. I contacted one who specialized in our constitutions and it was confirmed that we British are Governed by Consent as laid out by Rousseau. It still holds force today.

 

 

 

Modern democracies are in crisis. Could 18th-century political theorist Edmund Burke help us find a way out? 

 

Even just 40 years ago, electoral participation on the scale we are witnessing in 2024 would have been unthinkable. More than half of the world’s population live in countries that will hold (or have already held) an election this year.

 

But this great year of elections will unfold against a backdrop of deep unease about the state of democracy. The number of democracies is declining, trust in democracy is weakening, and voter turnout is trending downwards.

 

Appetite for political reform  is strong. Citizens have made their discontent known through abstention, protests, votes for anti-establishment candidates and even violence.

When thinking about how to address this crisis, we could do worse than looking to the 18th-century statesman and political theorist Edmund Burke (1729-1797) who witnessed a similar crisis of representation not long after entering the British parliament. 

 

In 1768, radical MP John Wilkes was excluded from parliament having been earlier outlawed for libelling King George III in a piece of journalism. Parliament then repeatedly refused to seat him when he won re-election several times, and eventually gave the seat to his defeated opponent instead. When troops fired on a crowd of Wilkes’s supporters, killing several, riots engulfed London for days.

 

The reason parliament refused to admit Wilkes, Burke sensed, had less to do with his boorishness, demagoguery or slandering (today he would be branded a populist) and more to do with the opposition to King George that Wilkes gave voice to. Given that many members of parliament owed their pensions to the king, they were keen to avoid offending him by seating one of his enemies, even if this stoked popular anger.

 

When Wilkes became the focal point of a large campaign demanding political reform, MPs condemned the protesters as unruly (much as MPs today have tried to restrict protests  in the name of public order). Popular sympathy with Wilkes even spread to America, where colonists’ complaints about their own lack of representation had already occasioned violence and would eventually erupt into a full-blown war of independence.

 

 

The people can always annihilate you


In some ways we might have expected Burke to have sided with the MPs against a demagogue and his followers. After all, Burke is often associated with the view that representatives should be trustees rather than delegates – that is, they should be free to act according to their own judgement rather than bend to popular pressures.

Burke famously told his own constituents in Bristol that he would not always obey them, especially when what they wanted was either unjust or foolish. When some Bristolians objected to more toleration for Catholics, for example, Burke refused to heed them. On this basis, it would not have been surprising if Burke had explained to the protesters that their grievances were misplaced and their actions futile.

 

But this is not at all how Burke approached the Wilkes crisis. Burke disliked Wilkes but rather than lecturing his supporters for protesting or defending parliament’s privileges, he warned his parliamentary colleagues about the dangers of failing to respond sympathetically to popular discontent.

What worried Burke was that parliamentarians would use public disorder as an excuse to numb themselves against legitimate protest, and so risk losing the people’s trust. As a representative institution, Burke argued, parliament’s job was to study and remedy popular complaints rather than dismiss them as unreasoned, unenlightened, or excessive. Even violent protesters never forfeited their right to representation.

 

As he put it in one of his speeches:

 

If you lay down a rule that because the people are absurd, their grievances are not to be addressed, then it is impossible that popular grievances should receive any address at all, because the people when they are injured will be violent; when they are violent, they will be absurd – and their absurdity will in general be proportioned to the greatness of their grievances, and then the worse their suffering, the further they will be from their remedy.

 

 

 

This is not a Burke that will be familiar to many today. But it is the Burke that politicians the world over need to listen to. This is because politicians more than ever have a long list of excuses – from populist insurgencies to disinformation campaigns, from AI-deepfakes to media manipulation – for disregarding anti-establishment complaint as absurd, inauthentic or irrational.

 

The consequences of that disregarding, however, could be disastrous. The people can always do more than just vote or protest. As Burke cautioned his fellow MPs, even when it looks like the people can “do nothing else” they “will always be able to annihilate you”. Burke’s point was that all government rests ultimately on popular opinion, meaning that if people decide in large numbers to withhold their assent to obey, then something closer to a revolution could result.

 

Securing representative democracy may thus require politicians to show more openness to democratic reforms, more sympathy to protesters and less willingness to use populism as a pretext for democratic retrenchment.

 

Link - https://theconversation.com/modern-democracies-are-in-crisis-could-18th-century-political-theorist-edmund-burke-help-us-find-a-way-out-220341

 

 

It still holds true today, our Government rests on our consent to be governed by them. Withdraw consent in large numbers, which historically is what violent revolution was, and the government has no authority - they can't order the army in, they have no authority.

 

Resort to violent revolution and the Government has the authority to send in the troops and crush the unlawful rebellion. There's no way around it, unless consent has been lawfully withdrawn, en masse. 

 

I think we just need to stop voting.

 

If every body stopped, no politician could claim they had a mandate from the people to endorse their leadership and policies.

 

It is that simple.

 

Britain's government right to rule IS based on Rousseau's social contract, at least, that's largely agreed among legal people, Barristers, Judge's etc

 

see this - 

 

The Social Contract

 

The Social Contract, originally published as On the Social Contract; or, Principles of Political Right (French: Du contrat social; ou, Principes du droit politique), is a 1762 French-language book by the Genevan philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau. The book theorizes about how to establish legitimate authority in a political community, that is, one compatible with individual freedom, in the face of the problems of commercial society, which Rousseau had already identified in his Discourse on Inequality (1755).

 

The Social Contract helped inspire political reforms or revolutions in Europe, especially in France. The Social Contract argued against the idea that monarchs were divinely empowered to legislate. Rousseau asserts that only the general will of the people has the right to legislate, for only under the general will can the people be said to obey only themselves and hence be free. Although Rousseau's notion of the general will is subject to much interpretive controversy, it seems to involve a legislature consisting of all adult members of the political community who are restricted to legislating general laws for the common good.

 

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Rousseau argues that legitimate authority must be compatible with individual freedom. Such authority can only be compatible with individual freedom if it is consented to, and hence there must be a social contract.

 

Link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Contract#:~:text=A state has no right,must be a social contract.

 

 

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