Looks like they're on to Russell Brand now.

[RobinJ]

9 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Going off a lot of his video's from his early days in his university lectures, Jungian. I think we need to judge Peterson in context; if people have placed him in the 'truth community' then they will judge him quite harshly from that perspective. But judging him as clinical psychologist thrust into the spotlight whilst he was mostly asleep; he is simply a flawed individual with much to learn - like most of us. 

I feel he is more involved than simply being flawed. He's being built up as some kind of all knowing hero who is always right.

[screamingeagle]

16 hours ago, sock muppet said:

If Peterson is a Psychologist then what school of thought is he a student of, Freud or Jung?

more of Jung ,i would say,he was very clever to build his fan base,and go alnog with agenda(i would say as orderd) when the time was "right"

[RobinJ]

I remember back in the day when I learned NLP stuff, there was a section which went along the lines of; if you can get someone to know, like and trust you, then you can persuade them to change or believe just about anything.

This is how many narcissistic personalities work.

Peterson was put there for the long game. Gain trust with his degrees etc then change perceptions.

[BornFreeNowAgain]

5 hours ago, RobinJ said:

I feel he is more involved than simply being flawed. He's being built up as some kind of all knowing hero who is always right.

True Robin. But I think we also sometimes make the mistake of starting to place people in places they don't wish to be, or group people in camps so we can better make sense of them. How many of us, have got talking to someone who is awake to one aspect of the agenda, only to be disappointed (even shocked) at how much other stuff they don't know, or are not willing to even look at. Recently I have come across a few of those, and you think "oh great someone who is awake', only to find they are not as awake to much of it as you thought. From that perspective you might harshly judge someone, but it was ME who placed them in that position. A lot are doing that with Peterson. 

 

Yes, no doubt he comments on a lot of things like an expert these days, but I would imagine he gets asked his opinion a lot (how much did David get asked about things on the Geordie Podcast about others) and given he has many millions of fans, Peterson I am sure feels a responsibility to voice his. Lets be honest here, we ALL have opinions on pretty much everything, we just don't all have millions of fans or a Worldwide audience picking it all apart. I say this fully acknowledging that Peterson's recent comments on the Palestine and further back on COVID are disappointing and evidence at the minimum, that he is asleep on the much wider agenda. But, I have some sympathy to a degree, or maybe it is compassion for someone who is going through their awakening, whilst dealing with a lot of cr@p thrown at him, where everything he says is now scrutinised. Many of us had years away from the spotlight to wake up.  

[BornFreeNowAgain]

Off the top of my head Peterson has;

 

• Stood against the Freedom of speech or compelled speech with regards to the gender issues which is a massive part of the current agenda towards transhumanism
• Stood up to the Universities, Psychological institutions
• Stood up against the idea that we should have equality based on quota's not on abilities
• Stood against a lot of the woke agenda
• Helped millions of people and inspired thousands to turn their lives around

He is not a 'truther' just a guy doing his part, or doing the best he can with what he knows and is right now. Is he perfect, hell no, but none of us are. I am surprised that many are calling him out given that he has never claimed to be a 'truth guru'. Some people must be perfect if they can so freely cast aspersions towards someone who is actually doing good (outside the truth community in the real World), albeit not perfect. 

[EnigmaticWorld]

7 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Yes, Peterson is a very manipulative underhand person, using deep psychology methods to influence those who are unaware, or on the surface like young ones who tend to need a "cause" to get behind.

He says a lot of great sounding things but it is all surface as you say. He seemed to appear out of nowhere on the Internet and now he is interviewed on mainstream and called the grandfather. That alone is enough to be suspicious.

 

 

He throws tantrums and tries to get peoples anonymity taken away when he hears opinions that he doesn't like too. All the "anti-woke" crap is just the cheese on the mouse trap. I guess anonymity doesn't matter to him because he is milquetoast.

Edited November 2 by EnigmaticWorld

[RobinJ]

All psy-ops need an anti hero Brand and Peterson do fit that. They also get us arguing amongst ourselves. Brand is a confusing one as he could quite possibly have turned his life around and be who he says.

Peterson, I just don't trust him at all, something rings fake with him for me. 

The problem most halfway there awake people is that once they realise what's going on in some aspect, its easier to see the system is collapsing, and they step back into fear of loss mode. Then they refuse to look at  more. We all get to a point where we see that we have been played and many don't know what to do about it. We will get through this, its just a painful process for some more than others.

[bamboozooka]

brands got alex jones on his show.

that puts him in the same circles as icke

[screamingeagle]

8 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

brands got alex jones on his show.

that puts him in the same circles as icke

nice try.....no it does not!!!

[EnigmaticWorld]

2 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

brands got alex jones on his show.

that puts him in the same circles as icke

 

The difference is that Icke doesn't avoid certain topics or speaking to certain guests like them.

[bamboozooka]

looks like im 7 years behind

 

 

[Grumpy Grapes]

RUSSELL BRAND endorsed a book on TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION called "Super Mind" (2016), about how to achieve 'cosmic consciousness'. That book was by NORMAN ROSENTHAL, a psychiatry professor and Senior Researcher at the American government's NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health), and he was the first psychiatrist to describe and diagnose Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).

 

Brand wrote: "Dr. Norm is a cosmonaut of consciousness, launching into the murky abyss and returning with meteoric treasures for us all."

 

Also endorsing the book was the 'New Ager', supposedly, ARIANNA HUFFINGTON ("The Huffington Post"; a member of Richard Branson's "The B Team"; political commentator).

[bamboozooka]

and ickes renegade film was produced by 2 companies that produce for netflix

i'm sure someone could link ickes book publishers to the isrealites if they wanted to

after all we are told they run everything

Edited November 17 by bamboozooka

[Grumpy Grapes]

8 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

and ickes renegade film was produced by 2 companies that produce for netflix

i'm sure someone could link ickes book publishers to the isrealites if they wanted to

after all we are told they run everything

 

His first 2 books were published by a subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch's "News Corporation" (Murdoch not Jewish, by the way).

[bamboozooka]

31 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

His first 2 books were published by a subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch's "News Corporation" (Murdoch not Jewish, by the way).

so that was in the 90's

got any more up to date stuff

 

just skimming ickes last 2 books says publisher david ickes books.

who prints them any ideas

Edited November 17 by bamboozooka

[Macnamara]

29 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

Murdoch not Jewish, by the way

 

we can't always be sure about that because at times in history sabbatean jews have gone under ground

 

for example when edward I threw the jews out of england some remained but professed in public to be christian whilst secretly behind closed doors remained covert kabbalists.

 

the knights templar are a good example of that

 

in spain when the catholic church expelled jews many once again pretended to convert to christianity and became 'merranos' who were secretly kabbalists. Its possible that many of the conquistadors who savaged the americas were merrano jews and its very likely that ignatius loyolla who founded the jesuits was one

 

Those people remained networked using cryptography and hidden watermarks. They often worked in the paper trade

[RobinJ]

So after all the last few years of revelation of the underbelly, people are still looking for heroes and anti heroes. Satan versus God, this section of society against that.

No wonder its so easy for the cabal to control us really.

[Grumpy Grapes]

56 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

we can't always be sure about that because at times in history sabbatean jews have gone under ground

 

for example when edward I threw the jews out of england some remained but professed in public to be christian whilst secretly behind closed doors remained covert kabbalists.

 

the knights templar are a good example of that

 

in spain when the catholic church expelled jews many once again pretended to convert to christianity and became 'merranos' who were secretly kabbalists. Its possible that many of the conquistadors who savaged the americas were merrano jews and its very likely that ignatius loyolla who founded the jesuits was one

 

Those people remained networked using cryptography and hidden watermarks. They often worked in the paper trade

His mother was Jewish though apparently he doesn't talk about that. 

 

"Another example of Murdoch's synergy is his investment in a small Israeli company that specialized in encryption—a service that turned out to be quite profitable when combined with his digital satellite empire. Thanks to Murdoch's proven ability to combine business interests, the Israeli encryption technology became the industry standard for satellite receiver boxes.

Murdoch's strong personal and business attachments to Israel led him to become a strong political backer and close friend of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. His favorable coverage of the Israeli government has not really been reciprocated—Murdoch has faced legal trouble in Israel for tax reasons—but he has received recognition in the U.S.: in 1982 the American Jewish Congress in New York voted Murdoch "Communications Man of the Year."

https://www.wrmea.org/2003-june/rupert-murdoch-and-william-kristol-using-the-press-to-advance-israel-s-interests.html

Edited November 17 by Grumpy Grapes

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

His mother was Jewish though apparently he doesn't talk about that. 

 

"Another example of Murdoch's synergy is his investment in a small Israeli company that specialized in encryption—a service that turned out to be quite profitable when combined with his digital satellite empire. Thanks to Murdoch's proven ability to combine business interests, the Israeli encryption technology became the industry standard for satellite receiver boxes.

Murdoch's strong personal and business attachments to Israel led him to become a strong political backer and close friend of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. His favorable coverage of the Israeli government has not really been reciprocated—Murdoch has faced legal trouble in Israel for tax reasons—but he has received recognition in the U.S.: in 1982 the American Jewish Congress in New York voted Murdoch "Communications Man of the Year."

https://www.wrmea.org/2003-june/rupert-murdoch-and-william-kristol-using-the-press-to-advance-israel-s-interests.html

 

well if that's the case then he would pass the test for israeli citizenship because for jews they perceive their jewish identity to pass through the matriarchal line which means if your mother is jewish then you are jewish:

 

''Although according to Jewish law ("halacha") Jewish identity is conferred only through matriarchal descent or conversion, Israel's Law of Return granted Israeli citizenship to anyone with a maternal or paternal Jewish grandparent.''

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/israel-balancing-demographics-jewish-state/

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

8 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

well if that's the case then he would pass the test for israeli citizenship because for jews they perceive their jewish identity to pass through the matriarchal line which means if your mother is jewish then you are jewish:

 

''Although according to Jewish law ("halacha") Jewish identity is conferred only through matriarchal descent or conversion, Israel's Law of Return granted Israeli citizenship to anyone with a maternal or paternal Jewish grandparent.''

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/israel-balancing-demographics-jewish-state/

 

 

 

"Then 45, she met London banker Tim Attias, 35, through the Kabbalah"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10944891/FEMAIL-reveals-Jerry-Halls-star-studded-relationships.html

 

"Minority holders of GOGI include investors in that business unit affiliated with Michael Steinhardt, Lord Jacob ROTHSCHILD and Rupert MURDOCH"

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1528356/000121390011005432/f1012g2011a1ex99i_genie.htm

 

Rupert Murdoch’s mother's 101st birthday guest

https://web.archive.org/web/20100718031724/https://www.jwire.com.au/news/the-rabbi-and-the-dame/6281

 

Gala Featuring RUPERT MURDOCH, Michael Gove, -Henri Lévy.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/03/29/algemeiner-unveils-3rd-annual-jewish-100-list-at-star-studded-gala-featuring-rupert-murdoch-michael-gove-bernard-henri-levy/

[k_j_evans]

On 11/17/2023 at 3:50 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:

RUSSELL BRAND endorsed a book on TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION called "Super Mind" (2016), about how to achieve 'cosmic consciousness'. That book was by NORMAN ROSENTHAL, a psychiatry professor and Senior Researcher at the American government's NIMH (National Institute of Mental Health), and he was the first psychiatrist to describe and diagnose Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).

 

Brand wrote: "Dr. Norm is a cosmonaut of consciousness, launching into the murky abyss and returning with meteoric treasures for us all."

 

Also endorsing the book was the 'New Ager', supposedly, ARIANNA HUFFINGTON ("The Huffington Post"; a member of Richard Branson's "The B Team"; political commentator).

TM is actually just a technique of what is basically self-hypnosis, which helps to relieve stress by releasing endorphins, oxytocin, serotonin and dopamine. The TM Organisation, on the other hand, is a loony cult with fingers in any number of political pies.

[Grumpy Grapes]

44 minutes ago, k_j_evans said:

TM is actually just a technique of what is basically self-hypnosis, which helps to relieve stress by releasing endorphins, oxytocin, serotonin and dopamine. The TM Organisation, on the other hand, is a loony cult with fingers in any number of political pies.

 

But why are more and more dodgy characters endorsing apparently 'positive' New Age ideas/techniques? Are they just jumping on the New Age bandwagon for personal gain, or is there a dark side to engaging with the subconscious mind? IMO it's both. 

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

But why are more and more dodgy characters endorsing apparently 'positive' New Age ideas/techniques? Are they just jumping on the New Age bandwagon for personal gain, or is there a dark side to engaging with the subconscious mind? IMO it's both. 

 

''super mind'' sounds a bit like 'hive mind'....

 

so if a goal of the cabal is to hook everyones brain to the artificial intelligence controlled cloud then i suppose anything that feeds into that will be pushed by the cabal

 

a goal of occult groups is to initiate their members to create an etheric bond between the initiate and the groups egregore and people like elon musk and mark zuckerburg seem to be moving to make that connection a physical one through the use of technology

[Grumpy Grapes]

21 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

''super mind'' sounds a bit like 'hive mind'....

 

so if a goal of the cabal is to hook everyones brain to the artificial intelligence controlled cloud then i suppose anything that feeds into that will be pushed by the cabal

 

a goal of occult groups is to initiate their members to create an etheric bond between the initiate and the groups egregore and people like elon musk and mark zuckerburg seem to be moving to make that connection a physical one through the use of technology

 

It could be that a merger is on the cards - the physical with the etheric; they are next door to each in terms of frequency, so it is said.

'Spiritual Technology'. 

[Grumpy Grapes]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

It could be that a merger is on the cards - the physical with the etheric; they are next door to each in terms of frequency, so it is said.

'Spiritual Technology'. 

 

Here's an article on spirit tech

https://mindandculture.org/projects/past-projects/spirit-tech/

 

Here's a new age website by James J Hurtak, who inspired "The Crystal Connection" by Randall Baer. 

https://keysofenoch.eu/

Edited November 21 by Grumpy Grapes