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21 minutes ago, legion said:

 

I don't like Brand. I suspect that he's a wrongun. 

 

But what Mac says is spot on. 

 

Take him through the courts or shut the fuck up.. 

Exactly even if he turned out to be the biggest evil scumbag going the sentiment is still the same for me as well, I will still defend my stance leave him alone or go to the police not some dodgy documentary. 

 

I've counted 43 videos (and that's not including the lives on Sean attwoods channel). 

 

The world has gone deeply insane 😂😂

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There are tonnes of eye opening stories here in the Mirror

 

Pile it on boys and girls!! Lay it on thick!!

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/russell-brand-live-allegations-youtube-30955255

 

All of them say click here to read more 

 

This is definitely part of the ongoing historic crimes training, where you have to condemn another person to have any chance of saving your own career. 

 

The crimes will keep increasing, the goal posts will keep moving. 

 

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

could it feed into the online harms act somehow.....that it serves as a test-piece somehow?

 

2 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

It just so happened, of course, that the Online Harms Bill was passed (pending Royal assent) this very week.

 

In the words of Anders (RIP), once of this parish, there are no coincidences.

 

I heard today that the online harms bill will be passed into law by the end of the year. As usual with very little publicised debate or challenge. And also, as usual, we will have to believe that it has already passed into law. 

 

Behaviour modification and conditioning.

 

I can't stand all of these petty wimpish allegations and the victim labels. There is no balance or perspective. There is no opportunity for comparison to financial or medical crimes, the poisoning of the earth, and the kids minds, the increasing humiliation of the 'man in the street', and the disgraceful treatment of the elderly. Where is their dignity? Who is speaking up for them? Who is distancing themselves from the sick people pushing these 'systems' on them?

 

In the past, when these type of allegations happened, it was mostly considered normal, and there was actually room for a lot of different personalities. A lot of people liked it that way, and joined in too, but now they are forced to conform to someone else's idea of a new normal. A miserable, fearful, paranoid and humourless new normal.

 

But that's not bloody coercion is it?! Not when it suits the narritive. 

 

This is not about morals and what is right and just and fair. It never is. 

 

This is the ongoing war on what it is to be human.

 

I do not consent, that's for sure. 

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And this is why it is fruitless, and not productive or very wise, really, to devote time and energy into digesting all these displayed-for-public-consumption grisly details about all sorts of deviant, manipulative behaviour. That ain't the same as not discussing it. Because the fact this is happening in the MSM, online every-fucking-where you want to look, needs to be recognised. But not blindly, obediently swallowed in the docs and mags they are putting out for us,with "facts" carefully organised and presented in a loaded way that will - they hope - produce the desired effect in the watcher and the reader.

 

While the real agenda goes unnoticed in the onslaught of all this "information" on RB and whatever might have been going on for 20 odd years.

 

This "outrage" and "scandal" is being put forward for a reason. It's been allegedly held back for years. So the time is right. For someone. Who? Do we know, for sure? Does it actually matter to us, the intended viewer and the reader, how much we are told of dicks going here and 16 year olds being humiliated and damaged. When what is more likely going on is the planning of laws like the Online Harms Bill, and plenty else I bet.

 

Don't get bogged by the details and the emotive language. That applies as much now as to the Ukraine, Convid or any other psy-op. Look and think beyond that.

 

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A channel on YT worth looking at for a very balanced perspective is Andrew Gold. He used to work for some of the newspapers and was a proper journalist, when such things were allowed.

Brand was off the rails for years in his early days and had an abusive father. Things are rarely black and white.

Kinda interesting, as a side note, there is a marked increase in tv dramas and films about child trafficking/ porn around at the moment. 

The timing of the Brand thing is definitely suspect regardless of allegations. Feels like he is being made a bogeyman, when, we all know wealthy folks and govt do much worse on a daily basis to babies and small children.

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5 hours ago, RobinJ said:

A channel on YT worth looking at for a very balanced perspective is Andrew Gold. He used to work for some of the newspapers and was a proper journalist, when such things were allowed.

Brand was off the rails for years in his early days and had an abusive father. Things are rarely black and white.

Kinda interesting, as a side note, there is a marked increase in tv dramas and films about child trafficking/ porn around at the moment. 

The timing of the Brand thing is definitely suspect regardless of allegations. Feels like he is being made a bogeyman, when, we all know wealthy folks and govt do much worse on a daily basis to babies and small children.

Yeah I was subscribed to him I personally find him a bit suspect in all this along with Sean attwood but that's just me.

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10 hours ago, Fluke said:

Basically man has sex with lots of women.

 

That's an interesting linguistic re-framing of a man raping a child.

Typical of British society.

 

Clearly there is a deep psychological problem in the broader British-culture that keeps producing monsters like Brand and Savile and then retrospectively shrugging at the resultant piles of raped-children.

 

In a way, Brand is no more complicit that Britain per-se. The British culture seems to create pedophiles en-masse. The average British citizen worships pedophiles on television; recasts the abused children as 'women' and the rapes as 'having sex. Then the culture shrugs, and goes back to manufacturing more pedophiles.

 

How long can this be done without any level of basic self-awareness of how it is ruining the entire society? Endlessly, it appears.

Amazing.

 

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11 hours ago, Fluke said:

....leave [Russell Brand] alone or go to the police not some dodgy documentary.

My sweet summer child, the police ARE the pedophiles.

The idea that a survivor of childhood sexual abuse would rationally approach a British police officer and expect anything but more abuse is absurd.

The police wear the insignia of the British Crown; a pedophile ring. And the insignia of the Freemasons; a pedophile ring.

 

It amazes me how many people on a David Icke forum have clearly not read any of his books.

It's such a quaint notion, that someone would "go to the police" in a post-Savile world.

 

The entire reason Brand is experiencing Trial-by-Media is that there is no functioning legal or policing system in the UK which a survivor could otherwise use. The media is the only thing that vaguely resembles a functioning police force in the UK.

 

There are literally illustrations of pedophiles on the British coins and banknotes. People in the UK pay for stuff, regularly, using little bits of paper and metal with crowned pedophiles printed on them.

 

That kind of culture is a long way from having a real "police" force.

The healing may take fifty years or more of solid, concerted effort and resistance by the British.

Russell Brand IS British society.

Just as Savile was.

Nothing has been learned.

 

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18 minutes ago, octoplex said:

  That's an interesting linguistic re-framing of a man raping a child.

Typical of British society.

 

Clearly there is a deep psychological problem in the broader British-culture that keeps producing monsters like Brand and Savile and then retrospectively shrugging at the resultant piles of raped-children.

 

In a way, Brand is no more complicit that Britain per-se. The British culture seems to create pedophiles en-masse. The average British citizen worships pedophiles on television; recasts the abused children as 'women' and the rapes as 'having sex. Then the culture shrugs, and goes back to manufacturing more pedophiles.

 

How long can this be done without any level of basic self-awareness of how it is ruining the entire society? Endlessly, it appears.

Amazing.

 

 

i don't think you can smear all british people like that.

 

There is definately something rotten in the centre of the british establishment which is what we are all trying to reveal here. To what extent is that rotten element british and to what extent is it sabbatean?

 

Freemasonry came from the knights templar who were a crypto-jewish order. Those knights templar embedded themselves in the british aristocracy and managed to get their bloodline on the throne of britain

 

when sabbatean-jewish families like the rothschilds came into britain they intermarried with those templar bloodlines and were welcomed into the aristocracy

 

From there they have gained control of banking, media and the intelligence services through which they run pedophile rings that serve a couple of different functions. On one level they tie psychopaths into a code of silence (omerta) through the risk of blackmail. The whole epstein (sabbatean) scandal was part of an old blackmail operation that went back to roy cohn and the bronfman family. Epstein was just the latest incarnation of it

 

But deeper still than the blackmail aspect is the dark occult aspect of ritual abuse and sacrifice

 

That sabbatean network recruits psychopaths into it who then carry out their agendas in the various arms of government/society but they aren't just operating in britain and are a global network

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9 minutes ago, octoplex said:

The idea that a survivor of childhood sexual abuse would rationally approach a British police officer and expect anything but more abuse is absurd.

The police wear the insignia of the British Crown; a pedophile ring. And the insignia of the Freemasons; a pedophile ring.

 

but this attack on brand IS coming from the government.

 

The british crown represents kether on the kabbalistic tree of life as the freemasons are a kabbalistic, magical order that stem from the knights templar who are completely enmeshed with the british aristocracy

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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think you can smear all british people like that.

 

 

The British citizenry knowingly funds the world's largest global pedophile ring (the Monarchy)

If citizens disagree, they should stop paying taxes immediately.

 

Enough is enough. No more excuses.

 

The British fund the world's largest pedophile network.

The British trade using money with pedophiles printed on it.

The British have an entire national broadcasting television company entirely predicated on child-rape; the BBC.

 

The British can wriggle and squirm and make excuses, but that is the plain reality of it.

They fund it; they celebrate it; they excuse it.

 

Difficult to hear; but then the truth is often hard to digest.

Brand is Britain, and he appears to very accurately represent the country internationally. He is an embodiment of the national character, in conglomerate.

Just as The Crown also represents Britain: looted wealth and child-rape.

So at least there is more transparency now we know who Brand really is.

The illusion of progress in the UK has been exposed.

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9 hours ago, Observations said:

I can't stand all of these petty wimpish allegations and the victim labels. There is no balance or perspective.

 

what it all seems to try and do is heap all the blame for everything in the world at the feet of white men

 

woman say they want 'equality' and that they are equal to men in all ways. If that is the case then they must also accept EQUAL RESPONSIBILITY. That's how that works. If they are equal people with equal responsibility then they are not mindless automatons lead astray by men. They can't have it both ways. Are they capable of thinking and acting for themselves or aren't they?

 

Another area of victimhood is the whole race thing. I was skimming through the headlines today and saw a headline about a woman saying her husband was pulled over by the police for the crime of 'driving while black'. Its a common complaint that black people are harassed by the police. But the crime stats show that black people are disproportionately responsible for crime. But do they then ask 'hey guys, what's going on here with all this crime? Why are we doing this?' No they instead blame white police who they accuse of 'racism' and by doing so they never have to self reflect on their own behaviours

 

the same applies to women who are never asked to self reflect on their own behaviours

 

Instead the sabbatean control system wants everyone to blame white men for everything and to encourage everyone to turn them into demons and of course many people are only too willing to do this because it means they never have to self examine themselves.

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5 minutes ago, octoplex said:

 

The British citizenry knowingly funds the world's largest global pedophile ring (the Monarchy)

If citizens disagree, they should stop paying taxes immediately.

 

Enough is enough. No more excuses.

 

The British fund the world's largest pedophile network.

The British trade using money with pedophiles printed on it.

The British have an entire national broadcasting television company entirely predicated on child-rape; the BBC.

 

The British can wriggle and squirm and make excuses, but that is the plain reality of it.

They fund it; they celebrate it; they excuse it.

 

Difficult to hear; but then the truth is often hard to digest.

Brand is Britain, and he appears to very accurately represent the country internationally. He is an embodiment of the national character, in conglomerate.

Just as The Crown also represents Britain: looted wealth and child-rape.

So at least there is more transparency now we know who Brand really is.

The illusion of progress in the UK has been exposed.

 

well i think your agenda is becoming more clear

 

interesting that i never even noticed you as a poster until you suddenly jumped on this issue which you are now using as a stick to beat british people with

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19 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think you can smear all british people like that.

 

There is definately something rotten in the centre of the british establishment which is what we are all trying to reveal here. To what extent is that rotten element british and to what extent is it sabbatean?

 

Freemasonry came from the knights templar who were a crypto-jewish order. Those knights templar embedded themselves in the british aristocracy and managed to get their bloodline on the throne of britain

 

when sabbatean-jewish families like the rothschilds came into britain they intermarried with those templar bloodlines and were welcomed into the aristocracy

 

From there they have gained control of banking, media and the intelligence services through which they run pedophile rings that serve a couple of different functions. On one level they tie psychopaths into a code of silence (omerta) through the risk of blackmail. The whole epstein (sabbatean) scandal was part of an old blackmail operation that went back to roy cohn and the bronfman family. Epstein was just the latest incarnation of it

 

But deeper still than the blackmail aspect is the dark occult aspect of ritual abuse and sacrifice

 

That sabbatean network recruits psychopaths into it who then carry out their agendas in the various arms of government/society but they aren't just operating in britain and are a global network

I am treating that smear with the contempt it deserves. 

 

Us working class have a particular way of dealing with peados 

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lets remind ourselves here of who is in charge of the government department that is now coming after brand.....seems like far from being a 'british' problem a lot of the people involved are second generation immigrants:

 

Lucy Claire Frazer is descended from Jewish immigrants

Soon after graduating, Frazer interned at the Israeli Ministry of Justice.

Frazer supported the UK remaining within the European Union prior to the 2016 referendum.

In June 2022, Frazer declared her support for Johnson in the 2022 vote of confidence in his Conservative Party leadership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Frazer

 

a dossier WAS handed, by the british, to the home secretary exposing pedophilia in parliament and here is the home secretary who then 'lost' that dossier:

 

Leon Brittan was born in London, the son of Rebecca (née Lipetz) and Joseph Brittan, a doctor. His parents were Lithuanian Jews who had migrated to Britain before the Second World War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Brittan

 

and here is another person that was implicated:

 

Greville Ewan Janner, Baron Janner of Braunstone, QC (11 July 1928 – 19 December 2015) was a British politician, barrister and writer.

He was associated with a number of Jewish organisations including the Board of Deputies of British Jews, of which he was chairman from 1978 to 1984, and was later prominent in the field of education about the Holocaust.

Janner was born in Cardiff, Wales, to Lithuanian Jewish (Litvak) parents

He was also a vice-president of the World Jewish Congress[15] until 2009 and of the Jewish Leadership Council until 2015.[17][18] He was president of the National Council for Soviet Jewry (1979–85) and the Commonwealth Jewish Council

Janner was created a life peer as Baron Janner of Braunstone, of Leicester in the County of Leicestershire in 1997.[21] He was President and an Officer of the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Anti-Semitism.[22][23] Janner was associated with the Labour Friends of Israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greville_Janner

 

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

lets remind ourselves here of who is in charge of the government department that is now coming after brand.....seems like far from being a 'british' problem a lot of the people involved are second generation immigrants:

 

Lucy Claire Frazer is descended from Jewish immigrants

Soon after graduating, Frazer interned at the Israeli Ministry of Justice.

Frazer supported the UK remaining within the European Union prior to the 2016 referendum.

In June 2022, Frazer declared her support for Johnson in the 2022 vote of confidence in his Conservative Party leadership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Frazer

 

a dossier WAS handed, by the british, to the home secretary exposing pedophilia in parliament and here is the home secretary who then 'lost' that dossier:

 

Leon Brittan was born in London, the son of Rebecca (née Lipetz) and Joseph Brittan, a doctor. His parents were Lithuanian Jews who had migrated to Britain before the Second World War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Brittan

 

and here is another person that was implicated:

 

Greville Ewan Janner, Baron Janner of Braunstone, QC (11 July 1928 – 19 December 2015) was a British politician, barrister and writer.

He was associated with a number of Jewish organisations including the Board of Deputies of British Jews, of which he was chairman from 1978 to 1984, and was later prominent in the field of education about the Holocaust.

Janner was born in Cardiff, Wales, to Lithuanian Jewish (Litvak) parents

He was also a vice-president of the World Jewish Congress[15] until 2009 and of the Jewish Leadership Council until 2015.[17][18] He was president of the National Council for Soviet Jewry (1979–85) and the Commonwealth Jewish Council

Janner was created a life peer as Baron Janner of Braunstone, of Leicester in the County of Leicestershire in 1997.[21] He was President and an Officer of the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Anti-Semitism.[22][23] Janner was associated with the Labour Friends of Israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greville_Janner

 

 

yes and all given honours by the immigrant royal family who are from germany, like the rothschilds....

 

the royals renamed themselves 'windsor' during the war to sound less german. They changed their name from saxe-coburg-gotha

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10 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Lucy Claire Frazer is descended from Jewish immigrants

Soon after graduating, Frazer interned at the Israeli Ministry of Justice.

Frazer supported the UK remaining within the European Union prior to the 2016 referendum.

 

right and boris johnson's grandfather was turkish and possibly a 'donmeh' who were the supporters of sabbatai zevi the messiah of the sabbateans who half of the jewish world supported when he declared himself the messiah. the muslim turks captured him and forced him to convert to islam and his followers in turkey followed suit but behind doors they secretly carried on their sabbatean religion

 

what do you need to operate in secret? you need passwords, secret hand grips, secret hand signs, codes of behaviour and oaths.

 

boris is the guy who tried to ram all this net zero stuff down our throats that rishi sunak is now slowing down. And who is the guy upset at rishi sunak slowing all that down? zac goldsmith. the goldsmith family were intermarried with the rothschilds.

 

Zac's father jimmy infiltrated the british trade unions through a group called 'great britain 75' which he set up with david stirling who was one of the founders of the secret air service that use the winged dagger as their symbol which also happens to be the symbol of the operation gladio secret armies which tie into the ukraine conflict which was kick started by the jewish neocons such as victoria nuland working with their ally the jewish comedian zelensky

 

Are the stirling family one of the knights templar families? certainly i know of a stirling aristo who is a member of the knights of st john which merged with the templars after the french king shut down the templars in france

 

here is boris with a head of the rothschild family:

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here is the german queen in her knights of st john garb (into which the templars merged when the order was seemingly shut down in britain....not really shut down just merged with the knights of st john...)

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As far as I can tell this morning, the latest charge is that Brand flashed someone.

 

I think that based on how these accusations aren't sticking and they've thrown every means of attack towards him - that this IS a coordinated attack of some sort.

 

As for the graphic description, culled from the documentary, posted a few times by someone who says "we shouldn't forget the brutality of his crime" (or words to that effect) You are missing the point. It's all he said/she said - that post with the alleged victims accusations cannot be verified unless this goes through the judicial process. It's why we have courts of law. 

 

Are they asking us to just forget that small detail and it take it as gospel that what she said was true? I certainly hope this person doesn't work in the the legal profession or for any media outlets - because they've clearly got a screw loose if they expect us to believe newspapers like The Mirror as the purveyors of absolute truth. Actually, I'd say they should really re-think their lives at this point.

 

Nobody is taking a side - we're discussing the much bigger picture of how the media/government can go after someone, destroy their reputation, and make their lives a misery without taking the correct legal paths. That is fundamentally wrong. This is trial by media, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Let the courts tell us what is right or wrong  - not a bunch of journalists. 

 

If the courts find Brand guilty, fine - he'll get what he deserves. If not, then let there be a full apology and compensation. But neither of these are for us to decide.

 

You do realise that if all these supposed victims come forward now, a judge may well ask "why not sooner?" - ah, the fear and stigma, of course! Yes, but how would that explain multiple victims ALL coming forward at the same time? Were they all just waiting till around September 2023 to do the deed? None of this would stand up in court. One or two, yes, that argument would work - but multiple victims all at once? 

 

Oh, and if these victims really gave a crap - they would press charges against him. 

 

And let's not forget the incentive here. If they do come forward there's going to be a hefty pay day when they sell their stories to the newspapers. They, as much as Brand, also have financial incentive here. He has his job that brings an income - but they too could make a small fortune selling their story to The Sun. 

 

The fact that this really isn't as black and white as is being presented is yet more reason to leave this up to the courts and not some government funded documentary. And we've all seen how quick the government has been to 'intervene' and ask, in a not-so-roundabout-way to have his channels demonetised - even though he's yet to be found guilty.

 

Forget about Brand - just look at how this is playing out and how, if we allow it to run rampant, the mainstream media can destroy absolutely anyone they perceive to be a threat. 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, ArchonBeliever25421932 said:

 

Nobody is taking a side - we're discussing the much bigger picture of how the media/government can go after someone, destroy their reputation, and make their lives a misery without taking the correct legal paths. That is fundamentally wrong. This is trial by media, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Let the courts tell us what is right or wrong  - not a bunch of journalists. 

 

If the courts find Brand guilty, fine - he'll get what he deserves. If not, then let there be a full apology and compensation. But neither of these are for us to decide.

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Zooming all the way out, and not to negate all the intelligent and perceptive opinions; is there a not a power struggle playing out globally? A spiritual warfare. 

Call me old fashioned, but I still hold fast to there being movers and shakers in the world with a moral compass. ?

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2 hours ago, octoplex said:

 

It amazes me how many people on a David Icke forum have clearly not read any of his books.

It's such a quaint notion, that someone would "go to the police" in a post-Savile world.

 

I know the feeling, of why would you trust the police any more than Saville or someone, but due process at least has to be seen to be done. Maybe that turns out to be not much better than being cornered and hammered by the press, but at least the general public might get behind Brand more JUST IN CASE he is innocent...Or at least can be acquitted of the shakey charges.

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2 hours ago, Macnamara said:
2 hours ago, octoplex said:

The idea that a survivor of childhood sexual abuse would rationally approach a British police officer and expect anything but more abuse is absurd.

The police wear the insignia of the British Crown; a pedophile ring. And the insignia of the Freemasons; a pedophile ring.


Tick!! BUUUUUUT not sure whether to fully align with that (as if accusing ALL police)..or speak as Mac did in that one post anyway, just in terms of the structure of the government, and corrupt power faiths of the Sabbats, which credibly or not >>that>> pedophilia could proliferate from.

 

Disclaimer, Mac is the **Sabbat-ians (or -eans) Expert in that field** not me. 🙂

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9 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

Brand was off the rails for years in his early days and had an abusive father. Things are rarely black and white.

Didn't know that, in regards to having an abusive father, very worthy to say! 👍 
From how young do we think he would have started to go off the rails?... Logic would seem obvious, at least from teenage years...Probable to say isn't it?.....sooo before he became a celeb or "truther wannabe" is the highlight of that there!? He became unruly and desperate to express himself from a time before fame took hold I think is likely - especially with the abusive father, depending on how bad and how long that went on for in his family life.

 

1 hour ago, ArchonBeliever25421932 said:

You do realise that if all these supposed victims come forward now, a judge may well ask "why not sooner?" - ah, the fear and stigma, of course! Yes, but how would that explain multiple victims ALL coming forward at the same time? Were they all just waiting till around September 2023 to do the deed? None of this would stand up in court. One or two, yes, that argument would work - but multiple victims all at once? 

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1 hour ago, ArchonBeliever25421932 said:

The fact that this really isn't as black and white as is being presented is yet more reason to leave this up to the courts and not some government funded documentary. And we've all seen how quick the government has been to 'intervene' and ask, in a not-so-roundabout-way to have his channels demonetised - even though he's yet to be found guilty.

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3 hours ago, wagdog19 said:

 

Zooming all the way out, and not to negate all the intelligent and perceptive opinions; is there a not a power struggle playing out globally? A spiritual warfare. 

Call me old fashioned, but I still hold fast to there being movers and shakers in the world with a moral compass. ?

 

Yes, that was partly what I was alluding to when I talked about something going on that isn't a conflict that we (ie the little people) need to get involved with, and invest our energies in.

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On 9/19/2023 at 4:16 PM, allymisfit said:

Right on!

The guy is a scumbag and the sooner we see the back of him, the better.

 

He's another puppet to the shit show we are all watching.

 

Doenut believes it's part of a humiliation ritual he's going through.

 

 

 

On 9/19/2023 at 4:17 PM, allymisfit said:

Spot on, Northern Star. It's all designed this way. They love their numerology.

Do not, under any circumstances walk through any long grass if Brand has been spotted in the vicinity, he's the most deadly of all the venomous vipers, his ancestors probably descended from the one in the Garden of Eden, should he offer you an apple,🤔 say 'NO' 🥴you know it makes sense!👍

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