Trakmaster Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Yes, the old topic again. However, please bear with me for a second. The Illuminati are not the bad guys suggested by certain conspiracy theorists and fundamental Christians. No, the Illuminati have had a very bad picture painted about them, and they are actually okay. Weishaupt just wanted to change things for the better. His ideology has been misrepresented by many people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONJAY79 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On 9/13/2023 at 2:52 PM, Trakmaster said: Yes, the old topic again. However, please bear with me for a second. The Illuminati are not the bad guys suggested by certain conspiracy theorists and fundamental Christians. No, the Illuminati have had a very bad picture painted about them, and they are actually okay. Weishaupt just wanted to change things for the better. His ideology has been misrepresented by many people. Are you saying any member of the illuminati are now the good guys? I believe there are plenty of groups now all at war with each other fighting this real life Game of thrones episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trakmaster Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 Still the same at the top of the pyramid. What happens below is up to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 (edited) or As Above, not so Below, lol. I want to believe you OP, but.... take Russell Brand, I didn't GET NOTHING from learning what he has to say, despite whatever else the critique clique are saying about him to slice him and dice him. NOW THAT'S SHAMEFUL despite whatever else RB maybe construed as. ----- Here's one I can believe Freemasons did heard on my radio, they made lonely people less lonely by having a project setup in which they provided free basic equipment for people to watch birds in their own gardens That be in a county not real far away from where I live here in the UK. Other than that I am not super knowledgeable of any good traits. But going back to the point more widely, it's like any news of an empire I suppose or clique of whatever prestige, the so called lowly people at the butt end just expect BAD all the time (partly their own fault for accepting damnation), but there it is, THE SIMPLE BUT SAD EXPECTATION on the more common side! (or dark side) Edited September 19 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetragrammaton Posted Saturday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:48 PM (edited) Quote No, the Illuminati have had a very bad picture painted about them, and they are actually okay Which illuminati are we talking about here? Are we talking about the pseudo-illuminati who are merely politicians & businessmen (in Washington DC & London), who were able to convince the military they were the "real deal"? Whose sole focus was on finite corporeal power. Or are we talking about the real illuminati? Quote the Illuminati They no longer go by that name. And their ethos & purpose has changed into something new & different. OP your starting point is to seek out a copy of 'English Illuminati' by Alistair Lees. The book will explain to you the history of how the charter papers, rituals, degrees & ciphers of the Bavarians changed hands through history. Should be noted no one in the early 20th century had these charter papers. All the money & power in the world (at that time) could not get them. But someone did.... Edited Saturday at 04:49 PM by Tetragrammaton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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