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‘It all disappeared with Brexit’: Craft beer boom ends as more than 100 UK firms go bust

New trade barriers were compounded by Covid and tax changes

 

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/aug/19/craft-beer-boom-uk-firms-bust-brexit

 

Kimi Karjalainen and his brother Marko poured their life savings into Bone Machine Brewing Co when it opened in Pocklington, East Yorkshire, in 2017 before moving to Hull, as part of the craft beer revolution that swept Britain.

“The entire investment, not including time and labour that we gave for free, was about £70,000,” Karjalainen said. Four weeks ago, it was gone. “That was my parents’ retirement.”

“It just got too much – Brexit,” Karjalainen said. “We were heavily geared for export. We’d be selling to Finland, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, Netherlands, Italy, Spain. We had Hungary in the pipeline. And it all disappeared with Brexit.”

Post-Brexit trading arrangements with European Union countries meant that Bone Machine’s craft beers needed to be accompanied by expensive and time-consuming paperwork.

“Everyone was saying ‘it’s too complicated to import anything from the UK any more’,” Karjalainen said. “In terms of pure output, that was about 30% to 40% of what we made. In terms of income, it was probably more than half.”

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7 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

‘It all disappeared with Brexit’: Craft beer boom ends as more than 100 UK firms go bust

New trade barriers were compounded by Covid and tax changes

 

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/aug/19/craft-beer-boom-uk-firms-bust-brexit

 

Kimi Karjalainen and his brother Marko poured their life savings into Bone Machine Brewing Co when it opened in Pocklington, East Yorkshire, in 2017 before moving to Hull, as part of the craft beer revolution that swept Britain.

“The entire investment, not including time and labour that we gave for free, was about £70,000,” Karjalainen said. Four weeks ago, it was gone. “That was my parents’ retirement.”

“It just got too much – Brexit,” Karjalainen said. “We were heavily geared for export. We’d be selling to Finland, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, Netherlands, Italy, Spain. We had Hungary in the pipeline. And it all disappeared with Brexit.”

Post-Brexit trading arrangements with European Union countries meant that Bone Machine’s craft beers needed to be accompanied by expensive and time-consuming paperwork.

“Everyone was saying ‘it’s too complicated to import anything from the UK any more’,” Karjalainen said. “In terms of pure output, that was about 30% to 40% of what we made. In terms of income, it was probably more than half.”

That’s a shame.

Thing is, everyone and their mothers was brewing their own craft ale, the market was saturated, and the best of the best of the beers were skimmed off the top and went on to be resilient companies. 
It is a real shame though, as our peers in Europe love our beer, and rightly proud we should be. It’s a humongous market and we should be competing, not concerning ourselves with unnecessary unclear legislation. 

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20 hours ago, Zaphod said:

Craft beer usually means expensive. I doubt if cask ale served in GB is being harmed by Brexit, ad I've never seen draught real ale anywhere else but GB for 50 years. 

 

It is more complex getting stuff across borders. I sometimes order wine and cheese from the EU, and there is a truckload more cost/complexity and only certain couriers will touch it. 

 

So goes both ways, and definitely impacts beer. As said many Europeans love British cask.

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5 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

 

It is more complex getting stuff across borders. I sometimes order wine and cheese from the EU, and there is a truckload more cost/complexity and only certain couriers will touch it. 

 

So goes both ways, and definitely impacts beer. As said many Europeans love British cask.

In the US, the supply of good British beer has pretty much dried up, at least in my neck of the woods. Sam Smiths, which used to be plentiful, can't be found except at a few high-end specialist stores that charge over $8 a bottle. European beers - German, Belgian, and Czech - are cheaper and easier to find. Other British goods have either increased significantly in price, or have disappeared. Trader Joe's - a grocery chain that formerly carried foods from all over the world, now carries only one two British cheeses whereas before, it was at least a dozen. Whole Foods, now owned by Bezos, has about 25% of their former selection of British goods. EU produced goods can be found quite easily there, especially cheese and wine. You can even buy part-baked French bread but it costs $5 a loaf.

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4 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

In the US, the supply of good British beer has pretty much dried up, at least in my neck of the woods. Sam Smiths, which used to be plentiful, can't be found except at a few high-end specialist stores that charge over $8 a bottle. European beers - German, Belgian, and Czech - are cheaper and easier to find. Other British goods have either increased significantly in price, or have disappeared. Trader Joe's - a grocery chain that formerly carried foods from all over the world, now carries only one two British cheeses whereas before, it was at least a dozen. Whole Foods, now owned by Bezos, has about 25% of their former selection of British goods. EU produced goods can be found quite easily there, especially cheese and wine. You can even buy part-baked French bread but it costs $5 a loaf.

 

Wow that's tough.

 

One tip on the US Beer front as a great UK style substitute is Sierra Nevada Pale Ale:

 

https://sierranevada.com/

 

It was one of the first in the US Craft Ale boom, and is a genuine family product. It is now bigger scale and you can buy it in the UK, but overall it has stayed true.

 

Certainly 1000x better than Tranny Juice.

 

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3 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

 

Wow that's tough.

 

One tip on the US Beer front as a great UK style substitute is Sierra Nevada Pale Ale:

 

https://sierranevada.com/

 

It was one of the first in the US Craft Ale boom, and is a genuine family product. It is now bigger scale and you can buy it in the UK, but overall it has stayed true.

 

Certainly 1000x better than Tranny Juice.

 

I used to drink that when in lived out west. Also beer from the Anderson Valley Brewing Company whose beer was of  exceptional quality. Back then, I used to go fishing off Mendocino and you could buy their beer for a reasonable price. Also Moylans which was a brewpub that served top-notch fish and chips and their own beers. https://moylans.com/

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Never really heard of this Bone Machine Brewing Co. and they were supposedly around the corner from me. They didn't market themselves locally too well. Though as I recall they were maybe too expensive to be worthwhile despite looking like good beer.

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17 minutes ago, Rhayader said:

Never really heard of this Bone Machine Brewing Co. and they were supposedly around the corner from me. They didn't market themselves locally too well. Though as I recall they were maybe too expensive to be worthwhile despite looking like good beer.

 

I'm always keen to support local Breweries and indeed local wineries:

 

https://www.denbies.co.uk/ and  https://surreyhills.co.uk/ are at the same site:.

 

Also like these two, nearer Guildford and the Sussex Border.

https://www.craftybrewing.co.uk/

 

https://firebirdbrewing.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 8/20/2023 at 8:55 AM, Mikhail Liebestein said:

“It just got too much – Brexit,” Karjalainen said. “We were heavily geared for export. We’d be selling to Finland, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, Netherlands, Italy, Spain. We had Hungary in the pipeline. And it all disappeared with Brexit.”

Post-Brexit trading arrangements with European Union countries meant that Bone Machine’s craft beers needed to be accompanied by expensive and time-consuming paperwork.

“Everyone was saying ‘it’s too complicated to import anything from the UK any more’,” Karjalainen said. “In terms of pure output, that was about 30% to 40% of what we made. In terms of income, it was probably more than half.”

 

Everyone is keen to 'blame Brexit' when in reality it is the EU that is making importing difficult, and it's all deliberate of course.

 

The EU is just a big protectionist racket designed to protect its own 'big companies' from any kind of outside competition.

 

On 8/21/2023 at 2:00 PM, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

In the US, the supply of good British beer has pretty much dried up, at least in my neck of the woods. Sam Smiths, which used to be plentiful, can't be found except at a few high-end specialist stores that charge over $8 a bottle. European beers - German, Belgian, and Czech - are cheaper and easier to find. Other British goods have either increased significantly in price, or have disappeared. Trader Joe's - a grocery chain that formerly carried foods from all over the world, now carries only one two British cheeses whereas before, it was at least a dozen. Whole Foods, now owned by Bezos, has about 25% of their former selection of British goods. EU produced goods can be found quite easily there, especially cheese and wine. You can even buy part-baked French bread but it costs $5 a loaf.

 

The USA is just as protectionist, but you'd think that in the absence of any recognised trade deal with the EU, it would be just as easy for UK companies to export to the USA.

 

At work, our customer base is primarily end consumers, while our exports to EU customers have died a death in the last couple of years, business to customers in the USA is booming.

 

I don't know whether UK companies are being put off from exporting, or whether USA distributors are being encouraged to source 'preferentially' from EU businesses.

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I think the scamdemic fouled things up greatly. At one time, there were hundreds of ships waiting to get unloaded and not enough dockers or admin staff to cope. That certainly caused massive delays in getting goods onto shelves, but that's over with. We were told that production in the UK was a problem but I don't know if that's true. There are companies that sell British food over here and they have no problem getting stock in, but it's mostly stuff from the big boys like HP Sauce, Walker's Crisps, and chocolate/sweets/biscuits. Having said that, I bought a couple of bottles of Sam Smith's organic lager yesterday for $4.99 a bottle and they had plenty in stock.

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On 8/24/2023 at 9:49 PM, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

There are companies that sell British food over here and they have no problem getting stock in, but it's mostly stuff from the big boys like HP Sauce, Walker's Crisps, and chocolate/sweets/biscuits.

 

Yeah, the 'big brands', owned by the likes of BlackRock, Vanguard etc, who all happen to be American. 😉

 

You'll probably find that stuff is manufactured in the US though, rather than imported from the UK.

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5 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Yeah, the 'big brands', owned by the likes of BlackRock, Vanguard etc, who all happen to be American. 😉

 

You'll probably find that stuff is manufactured in the US though, rather than imported from the UK.

 

Yes, and one of the joys of the UK is not the big brands, but the small local ones.

 

Here's a great cider firm from Winkleigh in Devon:

 

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