Why do we suffer and what is the solution?

[shabbirss]

17 hours ago, Lilymoon said:

But God would creat some thing in an image God would improve. Well humans like to create demons and monsters well oblivious God would not create such thing. 
 

Well I’m not sure what God would do in day. You say God may not think, enjoy or have entertainment in well such case I’m not sure what God would do other than continue creating things and having people worship.

 

I was using the holographic universe theory going around has evil God creating sims for entertainment and sims just doing what the programming code tells it to do.

If it was good all loving God like the bible is saying than every thing is created because God wants you to experience it. It just that when people say why does God allow pain and suffering Christians say because of free will. I find that argument does not really hold up. In my view my God is too perfect would not allow genocide, mass killings, torture and terrible dictators. There may be dictators but not terrible dictators. Every thing you experience is because God would experience it.

 

Well emotions, thoughts and ideas are free will well the body sensations and problems wrong with body are God divine temple along with earth and Christians can’t answer this.

 

 

 

We only have 5 senses
We only experience 5% of reality
95% is unknown and will always be unknown.
but in the meantime, using our 5 senses,we can put some of these puzzles together...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by shabbirss

[atenea]

On 11/27/2023 at 9:48 PM, Origin said:

You are in a kind of pre set sequence. You enter a specific point. We all do it. You can't go back to an older segment. Nor can you really leave the cinema/cave. Some are invited to explore the cinema. And that is an anomaly in itself. Only the other side can initiate that. Your cinema/illusion consists of trillions of constantly reconnecting segments. The truth is that you can't grasp in any way where you really are. We are like monkeys standing in front of a kind of monolith without realising that it isn't one. We are never alone and all anomalies are orchestrated. No one can do it by themselves. Nobody. Everything that Experiencer encounter, including NDEer, it's all the same, takes place within the cinema. My recommendation. I wouldn't believe anything Humans say, by that I mean everyone. Because we know nothing. And even what we struggle to find out has all been predetermined. And it will only help you to move forward. I know very well that I can't change absolutely nothing. Only the sum of all of this can be observed. We don't have control over anything. And I can say that Source has an infinitely increasing expectation the further you evolve. 

Seen from that wider point of view... I agree with what you're saying

[Certified Green of Heart]

13 minutes ago, atenea said:

Seen from that wider point of view... I agree with what you're saying

 

Yes Origin can make sense sometimes, it's just that not every pattern knows how to read us, when we don't make sense! 

[Origin]

There is no reason to believe that I know anything significant that would benefit Humans. 

[Origin]

On 11/30/2023 at 9:08 PM, Certified Green of Heart said:

 

Yes Origin can make sense sometimes, it's just that not every pattern knows how to read us, when we don't make sense! 

OK. I guess I don't do anything without a reason. The probability that someone has something very special to find is quite possible. Videos appear when they are required. No human language is required for this. This can neither be prevented by the system nor can certain areas of research be hidden. Perhaps source is more present than imagined. If everything exists at the same time, there must necessarily be something to study. 

[Certified Green of Heart]

On 12/2/2023 at 4:58 PM, Origin said:

OK. I guess I don't do anything without a reason. The probability that someone has something very special to find is quite possible. Videos appear when they are required. No human language is required for this. This can neither be prevented by the system nor can certain areas of research be hidden. Perhaps source is more present than imagined. If everything exists at the same time, there must necessarily be something to study. 

 

THAT THERE^^ a possibly better approach (or angle as to the unknown) for?-- (for arguement sake) for--- in some people's eyes anyway on behalf of humans --not unexpectedly since we are human-- but for whatever cause, rhyme or any reason by which to impartially (let's suppose) put into words A THING, that leaves for me still a whole heap of intuition available for interpretation on any matter on any subject in the universe where granted reasonable,

bla bla bla,...

but anyway yeah THAT THERE in your latter post, still roundedly a bit better than above it where you say basicly some or all stuff you post is not relevant to humans and ok I think I might get the gist there--but when or where that withstanding or not withstanding (on either side of the quantum fence, assuming there is such a fence, lol) and all unknowns therefore un-?-tenable to your average human's way of thinking, that when perhaps neither narratable or fathomable to us by words, naturally (woefully or not) comes back to humans and their own agenda or issues or bias or whatever when the unknown is just that, okay, and so that to view at viewers discretions as with all things.. (as I know we  as humans tend to think too much in terms of ourselves), and so all considered (in the universe.. including how many pixels constitute this post and how much of my gray matter might it take to compile this sentence which maybe I didn't anticipate through lack of knowing, haha) , and not forgetting even though you don't believe in too many words or at times any words, which I guess is understandable given the diverse nature of things, and especially inexplicable things.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Certified Green of Heart

[Certified Green of Heart]

My above post could be adapted to this thread by asking why do we suffer so much in knowing, when it is just like thinking too much, and if thinking alone gets us nowhere...? (that would be how to adapt the above broad post of mine above)

 

To Exist in Hope (like in search of the unknowable as is credible to expect in some ways) -or- Live in Validation of Life as We Find It... *as much as I like to learn stuff, the latter might very well be a good idea - at least for balance, up to whatever a point*, if we are embracing life fully that is.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Certified Green of Heart

[Origin]

42 minutes ago, Certified Green of Heart said:

 

THAT THERE^^ a possibly better approach (or angle as to the unknown) for?-- (for arguement sake) for--- in some people's eyes anyway on behalf of humans --not unexpectedly since we are human-- but for whatever cause, rhyme or any reason by which to impartially (let's suppose) put into words A THING, that leaves for me still a whole heap of intuition available for interpretation on any matter on any subject in the universe where granted reasonable,

bla bla bla,...

but anyway yeah THAT THERE in your latter post, still roundedly a bit better than above it where you say basicly some or all stuff you post is not relevant to humans and ok I think I might get the gist there--but when or where that withstanding or not withstanding (on either side of the quantum fence, assuming there is such a fence, lol) and all unknowns therefore un-?-tenable to your average human's way of thinking, that when perhaps neither narratable or fathomable to us by words, naturally (woefully or not) comes back to humans and their own agenda or issues or bias or whatever when the unknown is just that, okay, and so that to view at viewers discretions as with all things.. (as I know we  as humans tend to think too much in terms of ourselves), and so all considered (in the universe.. including how many pixels constitute this post and how much of my gray matter might it take to compile this sentence which maybe I didn't anticipate through lack of knowing, haha) , and not forgetting even though you don't believe in too many words or at times any words, which I guess is understandable given the diverse nature of things, and especially inexplicable things.

There was a time when I believed all of Humans nonsense. Your so-called universe didn't find that funny. At first it destroyed my assumption that I knew something. Looking back, it is more than embarrassing that I first tried to explain it to myself with human concepts. Then I saw things with my eyes that contradict everything humans believe in. Then I was forced to learn all patterns of source in order to understand it. That was particularly funny. I found myself in an impossible construct. With the disadvantage that there was no one there to exchange information with. As a reaction I question the whole existence. Apparently, I continue to be entertained with contrary opinions from the other side against my will. I don't know anything, and yet it's a weirdly higher factor than I knew before. You don't seriously believe that you are a life form/being, do you? Those who challenge it will be faced with unexpected answers. The construct loses all its magic. And everything goes into the distant future or past, it's the same anyway.

[robhr]

I like your views, Mr H. However I believe there is never any end to our suffering, but that is okay because suffering is a beautiful experience. But I do see your point, when you realize your true nature and reality you will accept all of the suffering that comes, it is what was meant to be for yourself, it is what has to happen, it is a beautiful experience.

[Certified Green of Heart]

The best thing of all is SUFFERING IS FREE!!!!