Be careful in the other side - when you die

[indigo solo]

1,034 - 1,124 AD --
The entire Arab world was enslaved by one man: Hasan
ibn-al-Sabbah 182 (Footnote) , the Old Man of the Mountain. He
established the Hashshashin who operated a part of
Mohammedanism which controlled by terror and fear much
of India, Asia Minor and most of the Mediterranean
Basin. They became a priesthood that used an extremely
effective mind-control mechanism and extortion tool that
enabled the "Assassins" to control the civilized world
for several hundred years.
Their method was simple. Young men were kidnapped and
knocked unconscious with hashish. They were taken to a
garden filled with beautiful black-eyed houris in a
harem decorated with rivers of milk and honey. The
young men were told that they were in paradise. They
were promised they could return and live there forever
if they sacrificed themselves as an assassin of whomever
they were commanded to kill. The men were knocked out
again, and shoved out into the world to carry out the
assassination mission.
Meanwhile, the Old Man of the Mountain sent a messenger
to the caliph or, whatever wealthy ruler from whom they
demanded payment, demanding camel-loads of gold, spices,
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incense or other valuables. If payment did not arrive
on time, the assassin would be sent to kill the
offending party. There was virtually no defense against
the unknown assailant who wanted nothing more than to
carry out his mission, be killed and return to "heaven".
This is a very crude example of how simple and effective
a brainwashing and mind-control operation can be when it
is used skillfully, and forcefully. It is a small scale
demonstration of how the amnesia mind-control operation
is used against the entire IS-BE population of Earth by
the "Old Empire".

 

From 1947 Roswell Alien Interview, Matilda O'Donell McElroy.

 

You can anyway consult this story online or in the library.

 

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Do you remember the movie Bedazzled (2000)? The devil shows a guy, in a big screen, himself the way he would like to be, to convince him to exchange his soul.

 

Now imagine 'devil' making this not via a big screen but in a much more technologically advanced way, even more than using a VR device, maybe by an induced dream. So, you wouldn't be there standing in front of a cinema screen watching a simulation, but experiencing a simulation, and obviously, without the knowledge of such is a simulation.

When you die, you won't see yourself and your [false] memories in a screen, but in a very realistic world, being yourself in the 'movie'. Maybe past-life regressions work like that, who knows?

 

I, personally, have been a very lonely man all my life. Also, I've been a very-very lucid dreamer always, and one of my recurring dreams have been of young and extremely beautiful ladies, with an—out of this world beauty. Sometimes surrounded by them and sometimes being the boyfriend or mate of one. It feels really cool and pleasant, in such way, that when I wake up, I feel depressed.

Beyond looking pathetic or not, I want to warn you.

 

After reading David's experience with the woman he called 'K', I confirmed my intuition about origin of dreams (or most of them).  They are coming from a force that doesn't want us to feel good. Is only an illusion to entrap you, as a false promise, same Hasan ibn-al-Sabbah did. So, when you die, be careful to detect you aren't in a real place but in a simulation about that you'd like at most.

In one of Carlos Castañeda books (I apologize, I don't remember which one), Don Juan Matus gave a lesson to Carlos about recognizing dreams as dreams and make what ever he wanted in them, instead of 'following the script'.
Most of us, specially if we are here, in this forum, have left following the script in this world, but we must to leave following in our dreams, also; specially in those that make us feel great. If we become addict to the emotions in those dreams, in the afterlife they will deceive us very easily.

 

 

[Macnamara]

4 hours ago, indigo solo said:

In one of Carlos Castañeda books (I apologize, I don't remember which one), Don Juan Matus gave a lesson to Carlos about recognizing dreams as dreams and make what ever he wanted in them, instead of 'following the script'.

 

i think don juan tasks carlos with trying to look at his hands during dreaming

 

the act of seeing his hands in dreams then acts as a pathway to lucid dreaming

[shabbirss]

On 7/18/2023 at 5:24 PM, Macnamara said:

 

i think don juan tasks carlos with trying to look at his hands during dreaming

 

the act of seeing his hands in dreams then acts as a pathway to lucid dreaming

an almost impossible thing to do, i've been trying for years !

[Eagle Eye]

Thank you for the information, Indigo Solo. Definitely interesting to look into.

 

The first time I decided that I wanted to see my own hands in my dreams, perhaps less than a year ago, I did get to see them. The dream felt more like a past life memory, though maybe it was just a dream. I was a farmer on my own land. Several hired workers were around me busy at tasks. I was using my hands to point and instruct as to what needed to be done.

 

It was an interesting dream. I have been practicing remembering my dreams my entire life. This thread helps me wonder if I should try to see my hands again. I simply wish to stay awake while my body sleeps is all.

 

It is your body that sleeps, not you. You are not your body. You are a spirit that encompasses your body. It is your body that needs some sleep.

 

[RobinJ]

I'm not really getting it why seeing your hands in dreams is so important. Can someone explain?

I see myself in total in all my dreams. In some I am both the experiencer and I am also observing myself with a kind of detachment. So I'm in a story but I can also get an overview of the whole scene.

I feel those ones are about an important message. I get emotions, language, colours, noise, everything. Sometimes in my visions it's like watching a video that comes in rapidly only some subtitles are missing. They stay with me until I analyse them and figure out the meaning. I write them down so I can see what others they join up with.

Fun times!

[indigo solo]

By watching your hands you can test your free will if you're dreaming. There's nothing specific in your hands, only the intention of you by seeing them, which is not part of the dream script but your free will. It would work with toes as well. But hands are the closest and most known by you object, so it is perfect to test your free will in dreams.

 

I have never seen my hands in dreams. In the other hand (LOL), I have managed to realize when I'm dreaming and have been able to force the dream to change. For instance: I've lived together with psychopaths and narcissist all my life. I hardly can endure them. When someone appear in a dream behaving like a narci-psycho, I get very, very angry, and instantly I realize I'm dreaming. I have been so harassed all my life by narci-psychos, I can endure they appear in dreams, when I'm supposed to rest. So I defend my self in so strong way, the narci-psycho character in the dream turns into a dwarf and gets the hell out of my dream.

 

Anyway, I have a lot of lucid dreams I can't know they are, and once awaken, I wonder how to gain free will and consciousness in all dreams. All of them.

[RobinJ]

11 hours ago, indigo solo said:

By watching your hands you can test your free will if you're dreaming. There's nothing specific in your hands, only the intention of you by seeing them, which is not part of the dream script but your free will. It would work with toes as well. But hands are the closest and most known by you object, so it is perfect to test your free will in dreams.

 

I have never seen my hands in dreams. In the other hand (LOL), I have managed to realize when I'm dreaming and have been able to force the dream to change. For instance: I've lived together with psychopaths and narcissist all my life. I hardly can endure them. When someone appear in a dream behaving like a narci-psycho, I get very, very angry, and instantly I realize I'm dreaming. I have been so harassed all my life by narci-psychos, I can endure they appear in dreams, when I'm supposed to rest. So I defend my self in so strong way, the narci-psycho character in the dream turns into a dwarf and gets the hell out of my dream.

 

Anyway, I have a lot of lucid dreams I can't know they are, and once awaken, I wonder how to gain free will and consciousness in all dreams. All of them.

Perhaps you continue to dream of the same kinds of people because your subconscious is trying to tell you to find a way to resolve that in your waking life. Its nagging you to get on with it or trying to show you to move on.

I used to always have dreams of trying to escape someone or some weird monster thing.

I no longer have them because I'm not in the same situation and I've done a lot of work to improve past issues.

For me, when I understand the dream meaning then I am able to let go and move forward.

[Eagle Eye]

On 4/22/2024 at 7:21 AM, indigo solo said:

I've lived together with psychopaths and narcissist all my life. I hardly can endure them.

When I, “pray for those persecuting me,” I have actually seen almost illogical results- yet always positive. In prayer, I ask for specific positive outcomes, as opposed to reiterating what is actually going on. I don’t think it particularly matters if one believes in God, or what have you. It’s the act of prayer itself, as if your words themselves are just that powerful. I hope this helps.

 

 

 

[DaleP]

17 hours ago, Eagle Eye said:

When I, “pray for those persecuting me,” I have actually seen almost illogical results- yet always positive. In prayer, I ask for specific positive outcomes, as opposed to reiterating what is actually going on. I don’t think it particularly matters if one believes in God, or what have you. It’s the act of prayer itself, as if your words themselves are just that powerful. I hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

Correct. You are all processed by the curse/system that is placed long ago.