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10 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Didn't say any of that. You are just gaslighting now. 

Scroll back to where you quoted me before, where you said my responses to you were incorrect.  Telling the truth isn't gaslighting, it's pointing out a flaw in your argument.

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1 minute ago, Nefaria said:

Scroll back to where you quoted me before, where you said my responses to you were incorrect.  Telling the truth isn't gaslighting, it's pointing out a flaw in your argument.

If you want to a genuine conversation or want to know why each one of your statements were Incorrect take it to another thread and I'll pleased to tell you. Otherwise we are just detailing this thread.

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1 minute ago, Fluke said:

If you want to a genuine conversation or want to know why each one of your statements were Incorrect take it to another thread and I'll pleased to tell you. Otherwise we are just detailing this thread.

Please start a new thread, do tell me how my statements are incorrect, you believe you are 100 per cent British?  You believe that there has never been a constant influx of migrants to our island?  That it's only a recent phenomenon? You believe no one ever leaves this island? I think you fail to realise ALL countries are constantly changing, they aren't those rigid concepts maps show them to be. If you don't like the change go somewhere more to your liking (it's what all those migrants are doing!), sorry if you find that insulting.

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5 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

that's because people keep coming on dinghies ad nauseum

Maybe there not trying to migrate, they could be just fitness fanatics that a bored with the gym, it's only 22 miles I believe.

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2 hours ago, Nefaria said:

No they aren't, you can't handle the truth, go ahead, keep living your deluded fantasy that you are "100 per cent British", and England was once a perfect idyllic society before anyone ever came over here in boats, be they rubber dinghies or Viking longships!

Yes, I'm 100% British, even though my grandparents came from Holland in a boat. But society has never been idyllic for East End Jews. It could be much better than it is now or ever has been, but it was definitely better in the late 70s, even with inflation, strikes etc. No internet or mobile phones, for a start. We had industry and farmers were respected. Cash was the normal way to pay, and it was hard to get a credit card so you weren't encouraged to overspend. 

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8 hours ago, Nefaria said:

Okay so white guy in handcuffs = stock photo, same footage over and over of dinghis played over and over on the likes of GB News not stock footage, get ya!  

 

either you believe that the cabal injected everyone with covid jabs because they care about us or you believe that they don't care about us and injected people with the intent to cause harm

 

how you perceive that will likely shape how you perceive the mass immigration issue too because if they are doing things to harm us then they are forcing mass immigration on us because they know it will cause us harm. if on the other hand you believe that the cabal are kind and benevolent people then you will line up for your jabs and hold up 'welcome all migrant signs'

 

i personally don't believe they are motivated by good intent. I believe they know exactly what they are doing and that they intend us harm and that mass immigration is being weaponised by them against us just as the covid jabs were

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4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

either you believe that the cabal injected everyone with covid jabs because they care about us or you believe that they don't care about us and injected people with the intent to cause harm

 

how you perceive that will likely shape how you perceive the mass immigration issue too because if they are doing things to harm us then they are forcing mass immigration on us because they know it will cause us harm. if on the other hand you believe that the cabal are kind and benevolent people then you will line up for your jabs and hold up 'welcome all migrant signs'

 

i personally don't believe they are motivated by good intent. I believe they know exactly what they are doing and that they intend us harm and that mass immigration is being weaponised by them against us just as the covid jabs were

Why do you feel the need to connect two separate subjects?    Covid and immigration? How i view covid has nothing to do with how i view immigration, the two maybe connected in your head but it doesn't make it so in mine.  As i have stated in previous posts, immigration isn't a recent phenomenon, it's not some 21st century plot to unsettle white people.  It's been going on for centuries, the nation of England wouldn't even exist without the invasion of the Germanic tribes taking over from the previous Roman invaders!

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11 hours ago, k_j_evans said:

Yes, I'm 100% British

Ethinically you aren't 100 per cent British, no one is, and that is the point i was making, that the country of today is a product of centuries of immigration!

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the whole thing reminds me of the jo cox incident...just seems too scripted but surely they couldnt recruit that many actors to play along with it? but then i think of the manchester bombing

 

If people can respect my family's privacy at this stage. We are still in shock Last thing I need to be hearing is journalists knocking on family members door Again please be respectful we are mourning
 
 
 
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7 minutes ago, masonfreeparty2 said:

if my dad had just been murdered i'd be too shocked to think about posting on twitter...

You sure you wouldn't post some balloon emojis and then post oasis don't look back in anger?

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54 minutes ago, masonfreeparty2 said:

if my dad had just been murdered i'd be too shocked to think about posting on twitter...

Well that would be the normal response but normal no longer exists...ppl think they have to exist online and share everything. From toilet visits to pics of their meals to every little detail of relationships and family stuff.

 

"Something happens > where's my phone? I need to post!"

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4 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Well that would be the normal response but normal no longer exists...ppl think they have to exist online and share everything. From toilet visits to pics of their meals to every little detail of relationships and family stuff.

 

"Something happens > where's my phone? I need to post!"

it does make you wonder when you read this from the war criminal https://metro.co.uk/2023/06/15/digital-ids-for-all-under-latest-proposals-from-sir-tony-blair-18951998/

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So he was ‘one of them’ then, been through the system,

institutionalised at university,

heart replaced by cold hard communist ideology,

had a moment of clarity in between the bouts of gangstalking,

suddenly flipped realising life isn’t supposed to be like this,

took it out on some nearby fellow drones,

felt satisfied with his protest,

got arrested,

facing life in a secure hospital,

case closed. 
 


 

“A man has been charged with murder after three people were killed in Nottingham.

Valdo Calocane, 31, was arrested after the fatal stabbings of students Grace O’Malley-Kumar and Barnaby Webber, both 19, and school caretaker Ian Coates, 65,Nottinghamshire Police said.

Three other people were injured after Mr Coates’s van was stolen and attempted to run them over in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

According to reports, Calocane arrived in the UK in 2007 with his parents, who are originally from Guinea-Bissau in West Africa.

He graduated from the University of Nottingham with a degree in mechanical engineering last summer.

His father was granted Portuguese citizenship in 2006 while working in Madeira and came to Britain with his wife and three children a short while later, gaining EU settled status, the Telegraph reports.

The family moved to Haverfordwest in west Wales where locals described them as “lovely people”.

 

Calocane’s brother reportedly went to Cambridge University, which his mother worked as a nurse and his father was a carer.

Police were given an additional 36 hours to question him on Thursday.

Yesterday, the families of the victims paid tribute to them as thousands of mourners gathered at a vigil.”

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16 hours ago, Nefaria said:

Why do you feel the need to connect two separate subjects?    Covid and immigration? How i view covid has nothing to do with how i view immigration, the two maybe connected in your head but it doesn't make it so in mine.  As i have stated in previous posts, immigration isn't a recent phenomenon, it's not some 21st century plot to unsettle white people.  It's been going on for centuries, the nation of England wouldn't even exist without the invasion of the Germanic tribes taking over from the previous Roman invaders!

 

if there is no plot to 'unsettle white people' then why do we never talk about islamic slavery?

Why do we never talk about Islamic slavery?

13 June 2023, 9:15am

The beautiful Siwa Oasis in the far western deserts of Egypt is a remarkable place, for multiple reasons. It’s probably been inhabited, continuously, for 12,000 years. Alexander the Great came here to consult the already renowned Oracle of Amun-Ra in 332BC (some say he is buried here, as he loved Siwa so much). You can swim in Roman cisterns fed by one of the 300 natural springs – which also nourish thousands of date palms and olive groves. The locals have their own Berber language – Siwi – spoken nowhere else on earth. 

But there’s one facet of Siwa’s history which is less talked about. Within living memory, they had black slaves here, generally fetched from further south in Africa, and trafficked along Saharan routes trodden by Muslim pilgrims, ultimately heading for Mecca.

If we do anything we should focus on the slavery that still exists – inside the Islamic world and far beyond

As I read about this nugget of history, last week –  sitting on the stunningly silent, mud-brick balcony of Adrere Amellal, a hotel which overlooks the oasis – it jarred quite hard with a news story I’d read an hour previously. Namely, that politicians in California are proposing to pay reparations to black Californians who can prove they descend from slaves. The sums being discussed are not trivial. The official taskforce has decided that entitled individuals should each get up to $1.2 million (£955,000); others say this is nowhere near enough, and every individual should get $200 million (£159 million) – that is not a typo.

Clearly, reparations on almost any scale will be brutal for the Californian budget, whatever Californians democratically decide. The idea is therefore proving controversial. But, from the perspective of Siwa, Egypt, and Muslim North Africa, the entire debate about slavery, in the West, is beyond controversial, it is bizarre, myopic and insanely one-sided. A form of moral solipsism. 

It is as if slavery only ever existed, and only really matters, when done by white Europeans to black people and across the Atlantic to the Americas. The truth, though, is that slavery has been practised everywhere by everyone in every century. In particular, slaving has been practised with great eagerness by the nations and societies of the Islamic world, for time out of mind. This was going on long before the first Portuguese slavers shipped black Africans from little Lagos on the Algarve to the fevered coasts of Brazil. 

 

Slavery is such an intrinsic part of Islam that the treatment, utility, and social status of slaves is expressly discussed in multiple verses of the Koran. Notoriously, the Koran allows slave owners sexual rights to their female chattels – the woman is not permitted to refuse. This fact was exploited by Isis terrorists when they seized Yazidi girls as unwilling concubines. 

With this divine approval of slavery, it is therefore unsurprising that Islamic societies took to slaving with gusto from the outset, as they conquered their way across Europe, Africa, and Asia. In Africa, Islamic imperialists were especially zealous. Whereas the evil white European trans-Atlantic slave trade transported maybe 12 million people from Portugal, Spain, Holland, Britain, France etc to the Americas over 400 melancholy years, various khans, sultans and emirs forcibly imported possibly 15-20 million black Africans to the Maghreb, Arabia, and so forth. No one is entirely sure of the number, but it is big.

Indeed, not only was the Muslim/African slave trade likely larger in numbers taken, it began much earlier, and went on far longer – perhaps 1400 years – and it was arguably even crueller. Why crueller? Because Muslim slavers castrated, brutally and automatically, so many of their male captives. They did not even care to breed them. Black African male slaves dragged by Muslim traders along the many interiorcross-desert routes, or bought on the Swahili coast, were infertile human mules to be used and then dumped. A visit to the dreadful Muslim slave pens in Zanzibar – one of the most claustrophobically evil places on earth – will give any visitor a sense of this fierce sadism, that endured over a thousand years.

And that, of course, is just Africa. While white Europeans restricted themselves almost entirely to the trans-Atlantic trade, Muslim slavers ranged widely across Europe, Asia, anywhere. Barbary pirates – like the infamous Salé Rovers – took white slaves from Italy, Spain, France, Britain, Bosnia, Croatia, Russia, even America, well into the 19th century. At least a million white slaves were seized in total. In England they particularly preyed upon remote coasts like Devon and Cornwall – humble fishermen out of Penryn, or Polperro, if they got unlucky, could end up as helots building the lavish palaces of Islamic Morocco.

At the same time, Muslim conquerors in south Asia were busy enslaving many millions there: a sense of the scale is given by particulars: eg, just one Delhi Sultan, Alauddin Khalji (died 1316), is said to have owned 50,000 slave boys, and 70,000 construction workers. Further south, Muslims across Indochina enslaved indigenous peoples, en masse. And of course, everywhere in the world, Muslims voraciously hunted for young white-skinned female slaves for sex. Circassian girls in the Caucasus were particularly prized; it was once claimed that Egyptian royalty might have died out if the caliphs had not had pale-skinned green-eyed Circassian girls to keep their ardour sharpened.

 

It’s a grim history. Yet no one has ever really sat down and totalled the number of slaves taken by Islamic nations and societies. It could be double the numbers of people enslaved by western Europeans since Columbus.

In fact, and if anything, we tend to actively diminish Islamic slavery. We minimise it, ignore it, or defang its nastiness. For example, if you try Googling the words ‘Islam’ and ‘slavery’ you get – first result – mealy mouthed pap like this from the BBC: ‘Islam treated slaves as human beings as well as property. Islam banned the mistreatment of slaves – indeed the tradition repeatedly stresses the importance of treating slaves with kindness and compassion. Islam allowed slaves to achieve their freedom and made freeing slaves a virtuous act.’ Islamic slavery is seen here as practically an act of kindness. There is no mention of wholesale castration and rape. And certainly no mention of reparation.

So why do we have this insanely one sided view of slavery? Even though slavery was not abolished in half of the Islamic world until the 20th century (in Mauritania as late as 1981)? 

Perhaps it is because Muslims are not wallowing in Muslim guilt, and are therefore immune to being guilt-tripped. Perhaps it is because Muslims do not have a special class of academics, weaponising ‘intrinsic’ Muslim evil against Muslims themselves. 

Instead, they have accepted that horribly bad things occurred, on a literally imperious scale, but the only sane solution is to draw a line. Slavery was an evil thing, it happened everywhere, but we cannot alter the past: we move on. If we do anything we should focus on the slavery that still exists – inside the Islamic world and far beyond.

Siwa itself is a good example of a place that has moved on. Black people are a fairly common sight, many of them are descendants of slaves. There seems, to this outside observer, to be little anger or resentment. Life endures – and sometimes improves. ‘Cleopatra’s spring’ still bubbles away in the shade of the date palm. And from this timeless perspective it is California and the wider West that, apparently, needs emancipation: from its delusions, its self-absorption, its ecstasies of grief and its moral orgasms of remorse – and its crazy belief that folding money and statue-toppling can repair history, while ignoring the actual history of the world.

Written by Sean Thomas

Sean Thomas is a bestselling author. He tweets from @thomasknox.
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16 hours ago, Nefaria said:

Why do you feel the need to connect two separate subjects?    Covid and immigration? How i view covid has nothing to do with how i view immigration, the two maybe connected in your head but it doesn't make it so in mine.  As i have stated in previous posts, immigration isn't a recent phenomenon, it's not some 21st century plot to unsettle white people.  It's been going on for centuries, the nation of England wouldn't even exist without the invasion of the Germanic tribes taking over from the previous Roman invaders!

 

MASS immigration IS a new phenomenon and started just after the war with the windrush

 

We have not seen the population increase by over 10 million in as many years before. It is completely unprecedented nor have we seen so many people coming from so many places and it is absolutely part of an agenda to destroy the societal cohesion of these islands to transform everyone into rootless global citizens of the technocratic gulag

 

covid and immigration are 100% connected because the same WEF crowd like tony blair who have pushed 'the great reset' and the digital vaccine passports and track and trace etc are the same people behind the mass immigration

 

so if they intend harm with the covid psyop then why would you suppose that they intend something good with the mass immigration? That would be mindless. The truth is that everything those people do is aimed at harming us, fracturing us, impoverishing us and ultimately enslaving or destroying us

Conman Blair's cynical conspiracy to deceive the British people and let in 2million migrants against the rules: Explosive new biography lays ex-PM's betrayal bare 

  • Tom Bower's new book Broken Vows: Tony Blair - The Tragedy of Power lays bare how PM presided over a silent conspiracy to change face of UK
  • Book reveals how Blair instructed ministers to wave tens of thousands of asylum seekers into the UK under cover of their being ‘economic migrants’
  • Also sheds light on his shocking dealings with some of the world's worst dictators, his relationship with Wendi Deng and Cherie's jealousy

By James Slack Political Editor For The Daily Mail

Published: 23:30 BST, 26 February 2016 | Updated: 08:50 BST, 27 February 2016

The main aim of allowing in millions of people was to make the country ‘see the benefit of a multicultural society’. The Blair government did not see its job as being to ‘control immigration’. The policy is revealed today in a Daily Mail serialisation of an authoritative biography of the former prime minister by Tom Bower, an internationally-acclaimed investigative journalist.

Over coming days, we will also reveal:

  • A devastating dossier on how Mr Blair deceived his Cabinet, Parliament and the country into war in Iraq;
  • Shocking details of his money-making dealings with some of the world’s worst dictators;
  • The truth about his relationship with Rupert Murdoch’s ex-wife Wendi Deng.

Based on interviews with more than 200 senior civil servants, ex-ministers and other insiders, the book shows Mr Blair did not want the public to know his true plans on immigration. He is said to have told ministers and officials: ‘Don’t mention the advantages of immigration in public because they won’t even want that.’

The rules on allowing in foreign spouses and students were dramatically relaxed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466485/How-Blair-cynically-let-two-million-migrants-Explosive-biography-reveals-PM-s-conspiracy-silence-immigration-debate.html

 

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16 hours ago, Nefaria said:

 It's been going on for centuries, the nation of England wouldn't even exist without the invasion of the Germanic tribes taking over from the previous Roman invaders!

 

the romans occupied and then left

 

the germanic tribes were northern europeans from the same geographic area as britain which is to say northern europe

 

the anglo-saxons did not wipe out the existing people as the field of genetics has shown. Most british people are descended from the people who were here before the anglo-saxons and those anglo-saxons were still 'native' of northern europe; the same people have always been here:

 

''Researchers found that England’s population was a mostly homogeneous genetic group – one that was no more than 40 percent Anglo-Saxon. It had been argued that the Anglo-Saxon migrations wiped out indigenous populations, but the DNA tells a different story – that Anglo-Saxons intermarried with, rather than replaced, native people.''

https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2015/0318/Where-did-the-British-come-from-Fine-scale-genetic-study-reveals-clues

 

 

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18 hours ago, Nefaria said:

immigration.........it's not some 21st century plot to unsettle white people

Anger Grows Across Europe Over EU's Mandatory Migrant Quotas

by Tyler Durden
Friday, Jun 16, 2023 - 08:30 AM

Authored by John Cody via Remix News,

“Should the law pass the European Parliament, the FPÖ demands a referendum in Austria on this asylum package, because this agreement does nothing to turn Europe into a fortress”

Conservative European parties, as well as governments like Poland’s, are launching various measures to push back against a new EU law that will lead to forced migrant relocations across Europe. The law could particularly affect nations such as Hungary and Poland that have been traditionally opposed to mass immigration, but other conservative parties from countries like Germany and Austria are also calling for referendums and other actions against the EU’s migrant quota scheme.

In Poland, the country’s parliament has launched a video campaign against the measure and is about to adopt a resolution proposal authorizing the government to exercise its veto power and not accept the proposal on migrant quotas at the next EU summit. There is also talk of putting the question of mandatory migrant quotas to a national referendum, which will run simultaneously during national elections this autumn.

In Austria, meanwhile, an online petition was launched to reject forced resettlement, while the German right has also protested the controversial new measure.

Poland’s ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party has prepared a draft resolution that would give the government a strong mandate to reject the forced resettlement of migrants based on quotas from Brussels.

The forced migrant quotas, as a part of the EU Pact on Migration and Asylum, were decided last week at the council of the EU interior ministers. According to the plans, EU member states will either accept a certain number of immigrants or be forced to pay at least €20,000 per migrant into the EU coffers. 

Rafal Bochenek, the PiS party’s spokesperson, recalled that the Polish parliament had passed resolutions similar to the current one before, for example in 2016, but they gave the authority to discuss these issues at the EU level. 

“Now, we want to give the Polish government a strong mandate to use a veto in the European Council,” said the spokesperson of the ruling party. The politicians of Law and Justice wrote in the draft resolution that “The Sejm of the Republic of Poland strongly opposes the attempt to introduce mechanisms for the forced resettlement of illegal economic migrants at the EU level.” 

Austria’s FPÖ also calls for referendum

However, Poland is not the only country considering a referendum on the issue, with Austria’s most popular party, the Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ), also calling for a national vote.

In promoting the new petition, Kickl noted that Austria has been hit twice in the last eight years by large waves of migration, both of which caused enormous damage across the country.

“Since 2015, the EU has missed every opportunity to protect the citizens of Europe from the import of terror and social tensions,” said MEP Harald Vilimsky, head of the European delegation of the FPÖ. He said he believes that the only hope is that with next year’s EU elections, a fundamental change can be initiated, and then a referendum can be used to deviate from this mistaken path. According to the MEP, help should be provided in the migrants’ homeland so that they do not leave.

“Should the law pass the European Parliament, the FPÖ demands a referendum in Austria on this asylum package, because this agreement does nothing to turn Europe into a fortress. That is why politicians must do everything we can to implement a ‘Fortress Austria’ and to protect the country from the new migration of peoples,” said FPÖ leader Herbert Kickl.

Kickl has skewered Austria’s government for going along with the proposal, claiming it has “stabbed Austrians in the back.” The FPÖ has long criticized the Christian democrats, the ÖVP, for being weak on immigration and other conservative ideals.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anger-grows-across-europe-over-eus-mandatory-migrant-quotas

 

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4 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

So he was ‘one of them’ then, been through the system,

institutionalised at university,

heart replaced by cold hard communist ideology,

had a moment of clarity in between the bouts of gangstalking,

suddenly flipped realising life isn’t supposed to be like this,

took it out on some nearby fellow drones,

felt satisfied with his protest,

got arrested,

facing life in a secure hospital,

case closed. 
 


 

“A man has been charged with murder after three people were killed in Nottingham.

Valdo Calocane, 31, was arrested after the fatal stabbings of students Grace O’Malley-Kumar and Barnaby Webber, both 19, and school caretaker Ian Coates, 65,Nottinghamshire Police said.

Three other people were injured after Mr Coates’s van was stolen and attempted to run them over in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

According to reports, Calocane arrived in the UK in 2007 with his parents, who are originally from Guinea-Bissau in West Africa.

He graduated from the University of Nottingham with a degree in mechanical engineering last summer.

His father was granted Portuguese citizenship in 2006 while working in Madeira and came to Britain with his wife and three children a short while later, gaining EU settled status, the Telegraph reports.

The family moved to Haverfordwest in west Wales where locals described them as “lovely people”.

 

Calocane’s brother reportedly went to Cambridge University, which his mother worked as a nurse and his father was a carer.

Police were given an additional 36 hours to question him on Thursday.

Yesterday, the families of the victims paid tribute to them as thousands of mourners gathered at a vigil.”

Right, so he wasn't some random just off the boat. I wonder what the real story here is. Victims were students and a caretaker. Whole family sound like they're very much in the system, so the "lone nutter from the outside" doesn't apply either. Wales is notorious for heavy radiation and various military crap and experiments. Maybe something screwed up his mind. Maybe he was MK Uktra-ed.

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