What have you learned since being on the forum?

[Mr H]

The things for you that have impacted you the most?

 

For me.

 

1. That I am not always right, and other people are far more knowledgeable and experienced than me in certain things

 

2. Religion - although I don't believe in religion. It is a subject that absolutely fascinates me and although I don't often participate through lack of knowledge. When the guys do a deep dive on a religious topic - they are my favourite read here and I've learned so much.

 

3. Covid 19 - the sharing of critical information has been a godsend for me, especially during the height of the pandemic. It also helped me gain strength to say no when all the restrictions happened against the authorities which wasn't in my nature previously.

 

4. Health. - There has been some incredibly insightful information shared here which has improved my health and also introduced me to new concepts like the New German medicine which really opened my eyes.

 

5. Flat earth - I was considering this theory quite seriously. But reading through the threads I'm confident it's round.

 

6. Interacting with others has given me hope in humanity. It's nice to see that there are still many decent people in this world that actually really care.

[Anti Facts Sir]

Since I joined an earlier version of the DIF over a decade ago, probably too much to even list here!

 

Back then, I absorbed as much info as I could - the veil was really beginning to lift from my eyes and reading so much detailed stuff about what really has been going on both confirmed my own growing sense of reality and also gave me actual info that I could refer to and base my own opinions on.

 

Second time around, it's been more of the same but much more intense because the biggest scam of our lifetime was unfolding around us and it actually had the ability to affect our everyday lives, our freedom and our future. The more info posted here about the laws, our rights, and exposing the absolute fraud taking place empowered people to stick to their guns and not give in to the attempt to force vaccinations and restrictions on everybody.

[Bombadil]

I have learnt that a lot of members feel they can abuse moderators without being punished. That members get pissy if they don’t get agreement to everything they post. Most don’t want to learn anything, they want an echo chamber. Virtually no discussion on most subjects. No one reads or respects the forum rules. 
 

Not to worry though you can slag me off on the Crowhouse.

[Anti Facts Sir]

Sadly yeah there is a lot of that side of things. Learned quite a bit about that too myself!

[Bombadil]

1 minute ago, Bombadil said:

I have learnt that a lot of members feel they can abuse moderators without being punished. That members get pissy if they don’t get agreement to everything they post. Most don’t want to learn anything, they want an echo chamber. Virtually no discussion on most subjects. No one reads or respects the forum rules. 
 

Not to worry though you can slag me off on the Crowhouse.

All joking aside, I have learnt how many people view the forum as a stepping stone to meeting David Icke. Not you all. Prat’s who get banned straight away!

You are all as nuts as I am. We can’t agree on anything so we are doomed to failure.
 

[Captainlove]

I have learnt that im not alone in my thinking. And mostly find this forum very interesting. But i do hate the constant fear mongering here. 

[screamingeagle]

5 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

But i do hate the constant fear mongering here

you realize that is no a coincidence

[Captainlove]

1 minute ago, screamingeagle said:

you realize that is no a coincidence

Yes of course.

[screamingeagle]

16 hours ago, Mr H said:

The things for you that have impacted you the most?

one thing that hits me is how many people in the past did/do what D.I does.....the  moment when you realize,re realize the fight was and is always on !!!

 

i think i would miss much of them if it wasn`t for the forum

[lake]

1. That people on alternative media will lie about you .... and others will believe them (so they did no research or individual thought)
2. That the removal of 5.8 million posts (over ten years of research) means nothing to people .... they just don't wish to think about it
3. That I have never seen anyone change their mind on an alternative forum .... so again no actual thought
4. That people build walls around themselves and only want to be right in this alternative media
5. That there is not much difference between alternative media and main stream .... all about 'likes'
6. That there are so very many paranoid people who join alternative forums .... which limits any actual effect they could have in this realm
7. That many in the alternative are gay or bi etc .... vastly a greater percentage than should be
8. That throughout near all alternative forums there are only .... maybe .... 100 people who actually post anything and most of them are utterly stuck in the indoctrination they have accepted
9. That there are a shed load of arseholes who infect the alternative media .... and come back and back and back ....
10. That .... on the whole no one wants an actual in-depth conversation about anything (too difficult as it may well destroy their point of indoctrination)
11. That over the last 20 years the level of intelligence on alternative forums has decreased
12. That ALL alternative media is used and allowed in order to gather information
13. That I find most of you now repetitive and there is nothing posted (mainly .... some few interesting bits) which has any research done. You research seemingly nothing, just post for 'likes'

 

Could go on but fuck it I don't really care anymore about alternative media .... WHAT have YOU done to change anything? Posted on a very unused forum .... Preaching to the already converted? 

Your posts reach near no one new .... and these days your posts are bullshit or half arsed research.

 

I read this forum .... I wonder why I bother now .... just shit posts which are copies of other information or just ego shit!

 

What did I learn from alternative media .... the people are as stupid as those who only look at main stream media .... controlled and uncaring!

[Anti Facts Sir]

Harsh @lake , but unquestionably true.

 

I remember the 2012 era DIF and it was a very different beast, but of course that couldn't be allowed to continue. There's a been a lot of sabotage and subterfuge.

[lake]

11 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

 

I remember the 2012 era

 

You only have to look at the real research done back then .... such as this thread which you were part of ....

 

 

All linked and documented .... Now the posts are nothing but wants for likes or to promote a self .... or a great deal are My God is the best .... when all those believed books are written by men.

Daft thing is that I know that there is vastly greater than me .... It is just not within books written by other men!

[Captainlove]

1 hour ago, lake said:

1. That people on alternative media will lie about you .... and others will believe them (so they did no research or individual thought)
2. That the removal of 5.8 million posts (over ten years of research) means nothing to people .... they just don't wish to think about it
3. That I have never seen anyone change their mind on an alternative forum .... so again no actual thought
4. That people build walls around themselves and only want to be right in this alternative media
5. That there is not much difference between alternative media and main stream .... all about 'likes'
6. That there are so very many paranoid people who join alternative forums .... which limits any actual effect they could have in this realm
7. That many in the alternative are gay or bi etc .... vastly a greater percentage than should be
8. That throughout near all alternative forums there are only .... maybe .... 100 people who actually post anything and most of them are utterly stuck in the indoctrination they have accepted
9. That there are a shed load of arseholes who infect the alternative media .... and come back and back and back ....
10. That .... on the whole no one wants an actual in-depth conversation about anything (too difficult as it may well destroy their point of indoctrination)
11. That over the last 20 years the level of intelligence on alternative forums has decreased
12. That ALL alternative media is used and allowed in order to gather information
13. That I find most of you now repetitive and there is nothing posted (mainly .... some few interesting bits) which has any research done. You research seemingly nothing, just post for 'likes'

 

Could go on but fuck it I don't really care anymore about alternative media .... WHAT have YOU done to change anything? Posted on a very unused forum .... Preaching to the already converted? 

Your posts reach near no one new .... and these days your posts are bullshit or half arsed research.

 

I read this forum .... I wonder why I bother now .... just shit posts which are copies of other information or just ego shit!

 

What did I learn from alternative media .... the people are as stupid as those who only look at main stream media .... controlled and uncaring!

Your comments are disappointing, and you have a right to them. I think the people on this forum are mostly trying their best to understand and try to get answers.

I ask you, most of us are still fairly new to this concept, so why dont you show us how to be better at this alternative stuff. Were meant to be in this together to help humanity. Someone with your experience should be willing to show us how its done.

 

[peter]

I have learned Utube has become the bastion  of truth for the alternative thinker (  tong in cheek ) because it allows people to cheery pick any evidence required to re-enforce  their own personal beliefs,without any thought processes being brought to the fore and all dissenting views being discarded

[Cleo]

I'm reassured that I'm not alone in my 'weirdness' since I recently became a lurker on here , AND, that I/we should question everything we are told.

[Anti Facts Sir]

50 minutes ago, Cleo said:

I/we should question everything we are told.

This is a very good place to start!

 

As the late Anders (once of this parish until cancer claimed him) used to tell me, there are no coincidences.

[peter]

1 hour ago, Cleo said:

I/we should question everything we are told.

yes a very good place to start , look from as many angles as possible before committing or being committed

[Anti Facts Sir]

David Icke's buzz phrase at the time I joined the DIF origianlly was "Joining the Dots" or something to that effect. I think that's what drew me to his work, and to this place. I'm not good at many things, but I seem to have a knack for joining the dots. And I was surprised to learn just how much of this illusion is underpinned by things that are linked, be it people, places, symbolic stuff, whatever. 

[Bombadil]

12 hours ago, Captainlove said:

Your comments are disappointing, and you have a right to them. I think the people on this forum are mostly trying their best to understand and try to get answers.

I ask you, most of us are still fairly new to this concept, so why dont you show us how to be better at this alternative stuff. Were meant to be in this together to help humanity. Someone with your experience should be willing to show us how its done.

 

As a mod looking from the other side of things, I believe there to be far too many topics here. Hundreds with little or no response. As either a member or mod I think it can be off putting to trawl through so much. 

Ok, as a mod I acknowledge it is my responsibility to keep things in order. The problem arises that by merging content it can very often lead to incoherent posts because of posts being directly tied to time.

There are some really good topics that deserve more attention Imo. I just don’t have the time or permission to go through everything. It would take weeks of dedicated time to resolve. There is then the issue of offending members when mods act.

 

I shouldn’t really comment on moderation but I feel it is important for members to be aware of the logistics in resolving issues. Also that it’s difficult to keep everyone happy and find a middle ground.

 

When you suggest members such as @lake get more involved in making others aware, I think you have a good point. The problem for @lake and others such as @Macnamara for example is that very often great debatable content is ignored or swamped by pointless replies. I imagine it must be demoralising to heavily research a subject to be met with indifference.

 

Im not implying you do this @Captainlove. Just making a general observation of appearances on many topics.

 

MOD NOTE: If more members of standing would consider being moderators it would make resolving the important issues more manageable. 

[Mr Crabtree]

16 hours ago, Captainlove said:

Yes of course.

Fear mongering makes the world go round, it must do, because they've all jumped on the bandwagon, governments, their bought and paid for MSM, instill fear and keep people on the wrong foot all the time and that way they won't have time to figure out what's really happening! They'll be too busy with the American /Chinese threats, the 'war' in the Ukraine, monkey pox, bird flu, the next disclosure in the Schofield crisis, what bollock Jo Biden's dropped now, Boris might bring down Rishi, the 'real' truth about Nichola Bulley's death, the new search for Maddie McCann etc, the list, and the smokescreens, go on! It all goes to prove that very old adage = 'BULLSHIT BAFFLES BRAINS'!

Edited June 3 by Mr Crabtree

[Captainlove]

1 hour ago, Bombadil said:

As a mod looking from the other side of things, I believe there to be far too many topics here. Hundreds with little or no response. As either a member or mod I think it can be off putting to trawl through so much. 

Ok, as a mod I acknowledge it is my responsibility to keep things in order. The problem arises that by merging content it can very often lead to incoherent posts because of posts being directly tied to time.

There are some really good topics that deserve more attention Imo. I just don’t have the time or permission to go through everything. It would take weeks of dedicated time to resolve. There is then the issue of offending members when mods act.

 

I shouldn’t really comment on moderation but I feel it is important for members to be aware of the logistics in resolving issues. Also that it’s difficult to keep everyone happy and find a middle ground.

 

When you suggest members such as @lake get more involved in making others aware, I think you have a good point. The problem for @lake and others such as @Macnamara for example is that very often great debatable content is ignored or swamped by pointless replies. I imagine it must be demoralising to heavily research a subject to be met with indifference.

 

Im not implying you do this @Captainlove. Just making a general observation of appearances on many topics.

 

MOD NOTE: If more members of standing would consider being moderators it would make resolving the important issues more manageable. 

Thanks bomb wise words.

[Campion]

2 hours ago, Bombadil said:

As a mod looking from the other side of things, I believe there to be far too many topics here. Hundreds with little or no response. As either a member or mod I think it can be off putting to trawl through so much. 

 

I belong to several busy forums and it's a big challenge to triage the content and keep up with the stuff that's relevant to me, let alone make detailed replies rather than just pick out one or two points to pick up. Often I just use likes, and try to use up my daily allowance, to show them that someone's in the room and listening, to give some encouragement and thanks for all the work which I can see some members giving to the forum.  

 

How do other members keep up with the content? If I look at the 'All Activity' screen it's incredibly busy with everything, and only shows the first couple of lines or so, to decide whether to read the whole thing so I tend to be caught by the clickbaity stuff. On the other hand if I use the 'Notifications' screen I end up in an echo chamber of  only reading the members I've followed. 

 

But otherwise I've learned a lot of useful content and also honed my skills at skim reading to quickly decide if something's worth closer attention or not. For practical action rather than theory, I tend to go elsewhere and my involvement here has led me to other organisations which are active in real life. 

 

Another thing I've learned is how much I'm limited by wanting to stay anonymous and avoid accidentally doxxing myself, so I tend to hold back from saying more and stick with generalities instead. 

[Macnamara]

I've learned that there are people out there that are listening....

 

it feels like progress is finally being made

 

some of those people are now playing significant roles in creating new networks and its going to be interesting to see what comes out of it all. I see green shoots

 

I feel like i am hearing more and more people out there giving voice to the same thoughts that i am having and it feels good. There are more and more people thinking along the same lines about what's wrong and what can be done about it

Edited June 3 by Macnamara

[alexa]

I have learned loads while bring here especially in the covid era, I have also learn't to unlearn to learn & to be as truthful as I possibly can. Amen 

[Anti Facts Sir]

Whatever else, if the convid thread and all the info posted there has saved even one person's life then it's been worth it. Corny but true.