5G IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US

[Deca]

2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

You asked for a 5G related type tower, I gave you one. I also didn't learn about this from some dude on youtube he just happens to post provable and demonstrable information regarding some of the things I know.

Below explains quite thoroughly that some input is seen beyond the speed of flow through or around the wires. Very small, but that is the scalar or magnetic element of electromagnetism arriving almost instantaneously. 
 

Do you understand a single word you just said? Who is talking about seeing a distant star with induction "soundwave like" propagation? 

er your hero  youtube dude dialectic induction 

 

[Deca]

1 minute ago, TheConsultant said:

ELI5: Its bouncing electromagnetism off an object and measuring its shape and size/distance by the reflected signal received back.

so where is the scalar effect you keep claiming ? 

 

[TheConsultant]

1 minute ago, Deca said:

so where is the scalar effect you keep claiming ? 

 

BY PHASE CANCELLATION OF THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENT. I have said that a handful of times now.

[Deca]

15 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

You asked for a 5G related type tower, I gave you one. I also didn't learn about this from some dude on youtube he just happens to post provable and demonstrable information regarding some of the things I know.

Below explains quite thoroughly that some input is seen beyond the speed of flow through or around the wires. Very small, but that is the scalar or magnetic element of electromagnetism arriving almost instantaneously. 
 

Do you understand a single word you just said? Who is talking about seeing a distant star with induction "soundwave like" propagation? 

er that video has nothing to do with scalar waves ...but how EM waves work ???? 

 

dude you are just wasting my time and bring nothing new to the table but confusion 

 

[Deca]

11 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

BY PHASE CANCELLATION OF THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENT. I have said that a handful of times now.

 

The interference of two waves. When in phase, the two lower waves create constructive interference (left), resulting in a wave of added amplitude. When 180° out of phase, they create destructive interference (right), resulting in a wave of zero amplitude.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_interference

 

 

AGAIN NOTHING NEW ....

 

[TheConsultant]

4 minutes ago, Deca said:

but how EM waves work

 

It shows a meaningful measurement on the equipment as the switch it pressed above leakage, this is the tiny scalar component of EM arriving almost instantaneously. As EM is both electrical and magnetic. It is registered as a very small electrical signal when in fact it is magnetic.

Get a roll of copper, wrap it around a rolling pin, take the rolling pin out. Attach leds to every few twists and then drop a magnet through the open end. What happens?
 

3 minutes ago, Deca said:

AGAIN NOTHING NEW ....

it is when its utilising phase cancellation as described above to remove either the electrical or the magnetic, using right-hand rule. Not the entire signal, just one element of the coaxial circuit.

[Deca]

11 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

 

It shows a meaningful measurement on the equipment as the switch it pressed above leakage, this is the tiny scalar component of EM arriving almost instantaneously. As EM is both electrical and magnetic. It is registered as a very small electrical signal when in fact it is magnetic.

Get a roll of copper, wrap it around a rolling pin, take the rolling pin out. Attach leds to every few twists and then drop a magnet through the open end. What happens?
 

it is when its utilising phase cancellation as described above to remove either the electrical or the magnetic, using right-hand rule. Not the entire signal, just one element of the coaxial circuit.

the video has f all to do with scalar waves ....the video does not mention or reference them in any way ..STOP bubbling made up shit .............

 

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Get a roll of copper, wrap it around a rolling pin

thats called a coil 

 

and its  Electromagnetic Induction

 

https://www.sciencefacts.net/electromagnetic-induction.html

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Deca

[TheConsultant]

1 minute ago, Deca said:

the video has f all to do with scalar waves ....the video does not mention or reference them in any way ..STOP bubbling made up shit .............

It is a reference to what I am talking about. How does any signal arrive at the bulb instantly if its purely electrical? I was giving you a simple demonstration of the very thing I am attempting to discuss.

Does it say this is scalar, scalar waves are detected? No, but that doesn't mean it cannot demonstrate precisely what I am talking about and know about.

Here is the experiment I described above with copper coil and LEDs
 

Magnetic induction and electrical induction are not dissimilar - its how wireless charging works.
 

and here is some young geek showing you demonstrably you do not know what you are talking about.

[webtrekker]

Sorry, just jumping in to the middle of a conversation, but maybe the CIA can shed some light on Scalar waves ...

 

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf

 

Don't know if that applies at all to your conversation though!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by webtrekker
typo

[TheConsultant]

8 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Sorry, just jumping in to the middle of a conversation, but maybe the CIA can shed some light on Scalar waves ...

 

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf

 

Don't know if that applies at all to your conversation though!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think I posted that and another in a page prior, but absolutely something they have discussed, developed and financed.

[Deca]

 

yep their no evidence for them its all speculation 

 

[TheConsultant]

10 minutes ago, Deca said:

 

yep their no evidence for them its all speculation 

 

Except for an entire branch of Physics and Equations that relate? as well as the demonstration above? As well as many simple demonstrations and explanations, other than that yes its pseudoscience and speculation.

 

[TheConsultant]

 

[sock muppet]

I won't be long and i'm just pointing out the bleedin obvious and why this thread has rambled on a bit.

You stated this

1 hour ago, Deca said:

so where is the scalar effect you keep claiming ?

 

You placed a laughing smiley at @oz93666 suggestion of alien tech's involvement and then proceeded to ask the question of

 

On 5/21/2023 at 8:08 PM, Deca said:

HAARP not "scalar" waves what ever that is

 

The above comment of yours demonstrates that you did not know of the existence of Scalar Wave technology, and invited anyone to answer the question of what it is.

You then go on to proclaim that the posters are hijacking your thread, see here

 

On 5/21/2023 at 8:40 PM, Deca said:

right what relevance has this to 5G and the video I posted ...simple F all ..and you are just misdirecting and hijacking this thread 

 

And then this statement

 

On 5/21/2023 at 8:50 PM, Deca said:

stop being gullible or trolling my threads

 

You then explain the use for DEW by this comment

 

On 5/21/2023 at 8:53 PM, Deca said:

right why would they need "scalar weaponry" when they can do it with direct energy weapons ??? ...again I see no need or evidence of scalar weaponry

 

The above is fair comment for the use of DEW against small targets because of beam forming, you now agree that there is Scalar Weaponry in existence, but you miss the elephant in the room which is, what is best for LARGE targets such as 911

 

The posters are simply trying to answer your initial question of 'what is it' and are providing examples of its existence, the hard part to grasp about Scalar technology is how it is implemented in a real world scenario and its more useful effect for LARGE targets, scalar waves are easy to produce, just twang a rubber band, or you can stimulate it from both ends grasping/clamping it for the material to resonate with the frequency being induced in the material,

 

So how does a pendulum swing?, when you know, you know,

[Deca]

right I think the consultant needs to define what he thinks a scalar wave is 

then show some actual objective evidence 

 

I already looked at this years ago and realised it was a buzz word /pseudoscience ok 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Deca

[Deca]

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https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4121

 

Let's start off with some basic definitions. A scalar field is a concept in mathematics and physics, in which a single value is assigned to every point in space. An example of this would be to describe the temperature in space, where there would be a single finite number assigned to every point. The science behind these is called scalar field theory. Compare this to a vector field, in which every point in space has a vector, consisting of a direction and a strength. Gravity in space can be defined by a vector field, as can the magnetic field surrounding a magnet. Those are legitimate science. Many of the same terms are used by the proponents of a pseudoscientific version also called scalar field theory, and from now on, whenever I refer to scalar field theory we're talking about the made-up version. This new type of scalar field theory takes it a step beyond legitimate science, based on the assumption that the scalar field has four or more dimensions, in which something they call scalar energy is also present at each point in space. Scalar waves are the hypothetical electromagnetic waves propagating along this field; although, unlike conventional waves that propagate outward like ripples in a pond, scalar waves propagate through space longitudinally, like ocean waves breaking on a long straight beach. These scalar waves, also called Tesla waves or Maxwellian waves, are said to be the mechanism of zero-point energy. It should be stressed that this definition of scalar field theory is not supported by experiment or by any actual physics.

This is fortuitous for the proponents of scalar field theory: Once you leave the realm of real science, you can pretty much make up whatever you want, and it's no more or less legitimate. There are endless web pages dedicated to this topic

 

 

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Deca

[Deca]

 

[Deca]

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ether, also spelled aether, also called luminiferous ether, in physics, a theoretical universal substance believed during the 19th century to act as the medium for transmission of electromagnetic waves (e.g., light and X-rays), much as sound waves are transmitted by elastic media such as air. The ether was assumed to be weightless, transparent, frictionless, undetectable chemically or physically, and literally permeating all matter and space. The theory met with increasing difficulties as the nature of light and the structure of matter became better understood. It was seriously weakened (1887) by the Michelson-Morley experiment, which was designed specifically to detect the motion of Earth through the ether and which showed that there was no such effect. (Ether theories were also used to explain gravity beginning in the 17th century, but they did not have the popularity of those explaining the propagation of light.)

 

With the formulation of the special theory of relativity by Albert Einstein in 1905 and its acceptance by scientists generally, the ether hypothesis was abandoned as being unnecessary in terms of Einstein’s assumption that the speed of light, or any electromagnetic wave, is a universal constant.

https://www.britannica.com/science/ether-theoretical-substance

Edited May 24, 2023 by Deca

[Deca]

12 hours ago, Deca said:

no you explain how you can see a distance star with your induction ,"sound wave like" propagation first from your youtubber expert stop trying to shift the burden of proof 

 

 

 

[TheConsultant]

Call it the pseudoscientific term quantum fields if it helps you sleep at night. The fabric is there, it is measurable its understood. Gravitational waves are the detection of it, so do interferometers on the other axial plane to Michaelson-Morley experiment.

You seem hellbent on attempting disprove something overtly apparent. 

Even quantum quackery says "everything is connected to everything else". Well yes true, that is the very fabric of our existence and it is infinite and not quantifiable nor quantizable.

Experiment:
Take a magnet, put a CRT Television on static channel, step back 20 metres, wave the magnet around and look at what occurs to the screen (you may need to use binoculars). The magnetic field stops (depending on magnet strength) a few centimetres away from the magnet itself. What is the magnetic field perturbing? Many multitudes of distance away from where its apparent field is measurable?

Scalar is longitudinal compression and rarefaction along this fabric, call it quantum fields as it will make you happier. Scalar is what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance". He was wrong, quantum now calls that "spooky action at a distance" quantum entanglement. 
 

The explanation is wrong, but the phenomena is very real. Much like most of our understanding as light is not a particle and wave. 

By the way Einstein mostly stole his work as well as being wrong for most of it.

[Deca]

 

[sock muppet]

4 hours ago, Deca said:

right I think the consultant needs to define what he thinks a scalar wave is 

then show some actual objective evidence

 

911 the demonstration, in numerical terms of the numbers 9 = death, forced through the gate of 11 = passage, BQQM, you got it yet, tick tock = time, and it don't wait for no man nor ignorance.

[Deca]

8 hours ago, TheConsultant said:

Call it the pseudoscientific term quantum fields if it helps you sleep at night. The fabric is there, it is measurable its understood. Gravitational waves are the detection of it, so do interferometers on the other axial plane to Michaelson-Morley experiment.

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what are you on about ?????

You seem hellbent on attempting disprove something overtly apparent. 

 

I don`t have to disprove anything ....IT YOU THAT HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF ...YOU NOT PROVIDED ANY CREDABLE EVIDENCE !!!!

Even quantum quackery says "everything is connected to everything else". Well yes true, that is the very fabric of our existence and it is infinite and not quantifiable nor quantizable.

 

what's that got to do with anything " we are part of the universe"  

Experiment:
Take a magnet, put a CRT Television on static channel, step back 20 metres, wave the magnet around and look at what occurs to the screen (you may need to use binoculars). The magnetic field stops (depending on magnet strength) a few centimetres away from the magnet itself. What is the magnetic field perturbing? Many multitudes of distance away from where its apparent field is measurable?

 

great YOU do it and post your video findings 

Scalar is longitudinal compression and rarefaction along this fabric, call it quantum fields as it will make you happier. Scalar is what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance". He was wrong, quantum now calls that "spooky action at a distance" quantum entanglement. 

 

what are you talking about quantum fields ?   referenced scalar fields  ..as that's were the misinterpretation for "scalar waves" came from

 

and no Einstein was not talking about Scalar when he made that quote ....you are mixing up and confusing things .

 

clearly you don`t know what you post about or have limited knowledge you gained from pseudoscience on youtube making whacky claims not backed by real science  

 

8 hours ago, TheConsultant said:

The explanation is wrong, but the phenomena is very real. Much like most of our understanding as light is not a particle and wave. 

By the way Einstein mostly stole his work as well as being wrong for most of it.

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by Deca

[TheConsultant]

When Einstein said "spooky action at a distance" he was being sarcastic and attempting to discount or dismiss the possibility of what people call quantum entanglement. Others may say "the fabric of existence connects everything to everything else" We are all in the same immaterial 'soup', all actions affect everything within that 'soup'

Edited May 25, 2023 by TheConsultant

[xpwales]

I can understand 5G beam-forming being practical at short distances (street lamps, local masts etc.), but could it target an individual over long distances and through trees, buildings, mountains etc.? This is just my way of thinking but I would suggest that beam forming could be compared to holding a stick and pointing it to some target; if the stick is short and the target is nearby (less than 5m) it's easy to be accurate and the margin of error is small.

But what if the stick was 5miles long and the target was 5miles away, imagine the margin of error and the difficulty in maintaining position on a moving target, and the chances of direct line of sight would surely be very low.

 

I agree that satellites would have direct line of site.

 

But how are targets identified by 5G?

I would imagine that targeting is done via A.I./computers and not by human agents knowing where the target is at any point in time, so how does the A.I. use 5G to identify a target from 8 billion people?

 

Could 5G be used to provide feedback data on the results/effects of targeting an individual? If not, what would be the use/advantage of the targeting say a average citizen?

 

If 5G is just based on a specific range of frequencies (GHz/THz) using pulsed/shaped-wave modulation and focused (beam-formed) radiation, surely it's measurable using conventional (but maybe expensive) GHz/THz equipment. In which case the evidence collected by targets/engineers around the world would be overwhelming with thousands of published reports and law suits. Additionally, would Gov./Financial funders risk such an overt deployment, imagine the cost of deploying billions of 5G street lamps, masts etc., only to be measured and exposed for it's harm by the public using conventional equipment.

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by xpwales