Gluoniel Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 So, Arizona Wilder mentioned this "Old Ones" on her interview with David Icke. Here there is a transcription: Quote [Arizona Wilder] Well, it’s kind of two-fold. First of all, they needed the psychic abilities because they control, or attempt to control, events. Because I would have the ability to foretell what was going to happen. And they needed the information to try to control an outcome that was good for them. The second thing is that during the rituals, you had to have psychic ability. You have to be very powerful in that way to call out The Old Ones, who are also reptilian, that come from another dimension. They actually materialize from out of another dimension, and are present at rituals. And they are so powerful, and there is such an evilness about them, that they want out of this other dimension. And they have to be called out by someone who has that power. And the reptilians don’t have this power. That’s very important. They don’t have this power to call out these Old Ones who have to do with them. Quote [Arizona Wilder] We have the ability to foresee, to be able to become vibrationally higher, and see into those levels, go into those levels. And in fact, Agencies use this. They call it “Remote Viewing.” Humans have the ability to go into the past, go into the future, to go to other places, to astrally leave their body, and to see things. And we’ve always had this ability. And it’s like having a third eye, which they don’t have. They don’t have this ability. So during ritual, these Old Ones are called out, and they are what Christianity would have called the demons. They are called out, and there is a circle that has a hexagon in there -- which is a powerful occultic symbol -- and then there is a pentagram. And then in the middle of that there is a triangle. And if you’re the one calling them out, then you stand in the triangle so that you’re not devoured or taken by these creatures that come out. They are reptilian also but they appear to be different than the reptilians that are channeled by the royals during rituals. These Old Ones are summoned and they appear in the middle of a hexagon (from what I understood) and with other occult symbols, they are kept from going outside that hexagon. They see the bloody reptilian rituals. But well, who are these Old Ones? Were they here on Earth in the past? Were they the ones who first entered our 3rd dimension to mix with humans? What else did they do on Earth? Why are they summoned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 This is an excelent question Gluoniel and your post is well crafted with all the essential refferences .... A lot of weight has been placed on the ground breaking interview DI had with Arizona Wilder over 20 years ago .. this interview is very important and still available on Youtube .... but it was just one person's story and she may have been subject to mindcontrol to deliver some false info. After decades of looking into this I am convinced the Reptillians are a physical group of ET's who , with 2 others , control this planet . The Reps can shapeshift and kill and replace key figures in society .... they are also technologically advanced and can (using technology) materialise right in front of you ... As for the "old ones" .. whistleblowers from the SSP ( such as Correy Goode) do talk of many sub spiecies of Reps , some with stubby wings , some with tails , some very tall , again this info is in the public domain so most likely will have disinfo weaved in. Above is an artist impression of CG's encounter with a Drako Reptillian ( these are not standard Reps who are only 7 ft tall) CG said being in it's pressence was like being mentally raped .... These are physical beings who eat flesh , travel in UFO type craft , but are telepathic and can telleport. So this is a very tricky area , full of disinfo put there by the Reps themselves , I would suggest expanding resarch into the SSP and of course the work of Karl Mollison .. https://video.getwisdom.com/watch_video.php?v=1033 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinder_darkskys Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 hi i watch a lot of the video Oz posted an i tend to agree with Oz ; So this is a very tricky area , full of disinfo put there by the Reps themselves , I would suggest expanding research into the SSP and of course the work of Karl Mollison. he get some stuff right but he more wrong. which could be explain by miss-information from E+T. Reppies are a interests to me. so i tend to track these subject. I fallows more then a few since i been here and talked to at 1 person who claimed to be abducted by Reppies. interesting subject to me is religion and reppies ; I believe they ether helped create religion and or created it them self Which is why see connection to the dead. Our own programing makes them a threat. we relate the apple and the serpent. in this way.. in the vid Karl Mollison make this connection. pulls out a bunch of numbers out of a$$ of possible life expectancy of these species based on no facts. but claim they know of what we call god and even go's so far as to try and connect these life forms. with what we refer to them as the fallen angles. He dose say we all die us and them. but because of extremally long life spans. Have try or tend to forget about his existence. Human reppie mind set. is the most primitive part of our brain. Males tend to fallow this more the females. If something try to kill you as male human males tend fight back. where as a female might try to reason there way out. Males not so much. Reppie and the dead Grays and the dead. the key words here are The dead. Reppies are fire smoke an ash is there historical roll. which seem to point to advancement throw destruction. Where as the roll for Grays is advancement throw education ; Wisdom. while Reppie use fire an smoke for upliftment Grays is after death. instead of falling to fire an smoke. it raising to the clouds. which we of core call spiritual enlighten state of beaning. so you have to look for the core values in my studies i found that the reppies have this upliftment. as well but more directed to the real world an the pyramids. And the here and now. the term harvangers of the dead come to mind. With both party's They both use mountain's Reppie volcanos < they all work together we don't. Grays use place's like Mount Sinai. I use these places to make a point. Abductions ; generally are evasive Which is to say you not coming back the way you when in. Reppies encounters tend to be more aggressive including torcher and rape. can lead to death. I go so far as to say high suicide rate would be likely. Hence not a lot reppie abduction posts. If you live throw it your probly unlikely to want a debate about it here. The above words are form my lady friend Who was here on the site they were ; torcher and rape. Sky's PeaceLovesAll 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Jordan Maxwell doesn't talk too much about ET's or Reps . But he does relate this story in a video (don't ask which one) It stuck in my mind , so I'll recount it best as I can remember .... An aquaintance of JM's , an accountant I think he was ... told him this story .... He and a group of friends planned a weekend camping out (in the US somewhere remote) ... four married couples and their children , perhaps 16 in total .... They drove in 4 cars and found a good spot to camp for the night , they were fairly high up and could look out on a lower area of forest , They started to put up tents when one of there party noticed activity in a clearing below and way off ... they could just make out a group of human sized individuals wearing cloaks forming a circle. Soon the party stopped erecting their tents and were all straining to see what was going on ... perhaps one had binoculars ... It seemed a reptilian like creature apeared in the circle , and strait away it turned to look in the direction of the campers ..... In a flash the whole camping party were paralysed and rooted to the spot . A reptilian creature materialised amongst them , it walked among the terrified group examining each one , staring in their faces and sniffing them .... Then they all recieved a telepathic message ... "Go ... get away from here and never come back" . The Rep. vanished , the group paralysis was lifted and the whole party erupted in screams of terror ...scrambled into their cars and raced away leaving tents and belongings behind! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinder_darkskys Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 kind weird right Oz not quite the way we use to hearing about Reppies close encounter. how ever it dose fit with my earlier statement. 2 main type veggy eater n meet eater stranger still is a warning. to leave. The cloaked form and numbers of cloaked forms there were and the of the use of what we call magic cycle. all fall in the standee for reppie story's and for behavers. this is the 1st time i seen a reppie giving warning. I seen it them warn us but make a mind to mind link to warn interesting i'll keep and eye out for the audio book This species is not just old on Earth Gluoniel on earth we are talking likely over 6,000.000 year old. so we not really talking about ALIENS we talking about the foundation of all life on earth. Keeping in mind they left earth. and abandon it. so coming along now and saying they own claim the Earth, we own you. Well it is out the question. and away to provoke a fight. which we can't win. Quote Oz ;So this is a very tricky area , full of disinfo put there by the Reps themselves. We do a great job at that as well. making our self's our own worst enemy. we see here every day disinfo for ego Sky's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cinder_darkskys Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) Not secure http://www.whale.to/c/wilder.html main context this all stinks of a pys op an the Bohemian Grove Sky's Edited May 23 by cinder_darkskys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jason57 said: Yes I was aware of this rumour that AW disavowed her original claims .... The evidence is not strong , just typed words from an unprovable source , it would be much more convincing if she apeared on a video talked into the camera recanting her original story .... But lets supose her new story is accurate She now says "I was kidnapped and worked over i.e. given huge amounts of electric shock by unknown perpetrators, (which resulted in a hospitalization) I did not realize that I was being “prepared” i.e. programmed, for an interview with David Icke, ....That interview took place within 5 months ... and individuals “magically” appeared in my life to connect me with David Icke.... " Who would do this to her ? Who could do this electric shock mind control to her? Obviously MI5/CIA operatives . And who have the ability to make "Magical" coincidences occour "chance" meetings happen that led her to DI ? only the advanced ET's , who can psycically manipulate people and direct them (without their knowledge) to be in certain places at certain times ... these ET's also control the CIA/MI5 . And what would be the aim of all this ? To furthur discredit DI make him look crazy .. But mainly I would suggest to discredit and muddle the idea of Reps and Rep replacement which would later come out anyway through other sources (SSP and Karl Mollison) ... So now if the notion of Rep replacement is brought up , it's laughed off as being rubbish , because the originator of this idea has disavowed her story! Even so an opinion poll has shows 12 million Americans believe politicians are shape shifting reps ! ..https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/12-million-americans-believe-lizard-people-run-our-country/316706/ So I do have problems with AW original interview ... the idea that someone , like the queen , who is a Rep can shift her form from human looking to Rep , in a ritual ... this is not mentioned as being posible by any other sources becaused shifting form is a long and complex procedure ... This AW interview led DI away from his original idea that the reps were ET's to thinking they are astral beings , non physical .. a big missdirection. Edited May 24 by oz93666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluoniel Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 On 5/21/2023 at 8:12 PM, oz93666 said: Jordan Maxwell doesn't talk too much about ET's or Reps . But he does relate this story in a video (don't ask which one) It stuck in my mind , so I'll recount it best as I can remember .... An aquaintance of JM's , an accountant I think he was ... told him this story .... He and a group of friends planned a weekend camping out (in the US somewhere remote) ... four married couples and their children , perhaps 16 in total .... They drove in 4 cars and found a good spot to camp for the night , they were fairly high up and could look out on a lower area of forest , They started to put up tents when one of there party noticed activity in a clearing below and way off ... they could just make out a group of human sized individuals wearing cloaks forming a circle. Soon the party stopped erecting their tents and were all straining to see what was going on ... perhaps one had binoculars ... It seemed a reptilian like creature apeared in the circle , and strait away it turned to look in the direction of the campers ..... In a flash the whole camping party were paralysed and rooted to the spot . A reptilian creature materialised amongst them , it walked among the terrified group examining each one , staring in their faces and sniffing them .... Then they all recieved a telepathic message ... "Go ... get away from here and never come back" . The Rep. vanished , the group paralysis was lifted and the whole party erupted in screams of terror ...scrambled into their cars and raced away leaving tents and belongings behind! That is very impressive and scary. Although, I would think that these rituals would be held in a more organized way, in a more secret place, by the elite, not at an accessible forest (accessible for the public). From what I understand, the rituals also need to be underground, where the Earth 3rd dimension frequency is weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluoniel Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 9 hours ago, Jason57 said: The problem is I cannot find the original publication or video made by Arizona Wilder herself saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason57 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 All i know is, if it's true that humanity is enslaved by reps, then humanity it truly fucked. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gluoniel Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 We need other kind of people to gain power, people who don't come from the blue blood lineage, that doesn't have reptilian blood, and weren't raised by these Illuminati elites or lodges. According to the EnterTheStars Youtube channel, the purest human bloodline without reptilian taint comes from the biblical Noah. Or well, myself, for example, I think I don't have reptilian blood (or not too much, at least), LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason57 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Sadly, that won't be allowed to happen. I honestly just want out of this world, but then we have the Christians proclaiming Hell and Hindus proclaiming reincarnation. Is there nowhere I can go and just not exist lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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