Macnamara Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 The P2 Lodge scandal Propaganda Due (Italian pronunciation: [propaˈɡanda ˈduːe]; P2) was a Masonic lodge under the Grand Orient of Italy, founded in 1877. Its Masonic charter was withdrawn in 1976, and it transformed into an illegal, clandestine, anti-communist, anti-Soviet, anti-leftist, pseudo-Masonic, and radical right[1][2][3] criminal organization and secret society operating in contravention of Article 18 of the Constitution of Italy that banned secret associations.[4] In its latter period, during which the lodge was headed by Licio Gelli, P2 was implicated in numerous Italian crimes and mysteries, including the collapse of the Holy See-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano, the murders of journalist Mino Pecorelli and banker Roberto Calvi, and corruption cases within the nationwide bribe scandal Tangentopoli. P2 came to light through the investigations into the collapse of Michele Sindona's financial empire.[5] P2 was sometimes referred to as a "state within a state"[6] or a "shadow government".[7] The lodge had among its members prominent journalists, members of parliament, industrialists, and military leaders—including Silvio Berlusconi, who later became Prime Minister of Italy; the Savoy pretender to the Italian throne Victor Emmanuel;[8] and the heads of all three Italian intelligence services (at the time SISDE, SISMI, and CESIS). When searching Gelli's villa in 1982, police found a document entitled "Plan for Democratic Rebirth", which called for a consolidation of the media, suppression of trade unions, and the rewriting of the Italian constitution.[9] Outside Italy, P2 was also active in Venezuela, Uruguay, Brazil, and Argentina. Among its Argentine members were Raúl Alberto Lastiri, who was briefly interim president of the country after the end of the self-styled "Argentine Revolution" dictatorship (1966–1973); Emilio Massera, who was part of the military junta led by Jorge Rafael Videla during Argentina's last-civil military dictatorship (1976–1983); the Peronist orthodox José López Rega, who was Minister of Social Welfare (1973–1975) and founder of the paramilitary organisation Argentine Anticommunist Alliance (AAA); and general and convicted murderer Guillermo Suárez Mason.[10] Propaganda was founded in 1877, in Turin, as Propaganda Massonica. This lodge was frequented by politicians and government officials from across Italy who were unable to attend their own lodges and included prominent members of the Piedmont nobility. During its history, the lodge included important Italian figures, such as the poet Giosuè Carducci, politicians Francesco Crispi and Arturo Labriola and journalist Gabriele Galantara.[11] Propaganda Massonica was banned in 1925, alongside all other Masonic lodges and secret societies, by the Fascist regime.[12] Following the end of World War II, Freemasonry became legal again and the lodge was reformed. The name was changed to Propaganda Due when the Grand Orient of Italy numbered its lodges. By the 1960s, the lodge was all but inactive, holding few meetings. This original lodge had little to do with the one Licio Gelli established in 1966, two years after becoming a Freemason.[13] During the Cold War, Italian Freemasonry traditions of free-thinking under the Risorgimento transformed into fervent anti-communism. The increasing influence of the political left at the end of the 1960s had the Masons of Italy deeply worried. In 1971, Grand Master Lino Salvini of the Grand Orient of Italy—one of Italy's largest Masonic lodges—assigned to Gelli the task of reorganizing the lodge.[14] Gelli took a list of "sleeping members"—members not invited to participate in Masonic rituals anymore, as Italian Freemasonry was under close scrutiny by Christian Democracy (DC) in power through the Pentapartito. From these initial connections, Gelli was able to extend his network throughout the echelons of the Italian establishment.[15] In 1967 Giovanni Allavena, former number one of SIFAR, was initiated into the lodge, who gave Gelli the photocopies of 157,000 secret files, containing telephone and environmental interceptions, photographs, correspondence and private information, including on the sex life, of as many personalities. Freemason Frank Gigliotti chose Gelli to form a parallel anti-communist government, in collaboration with the CIA in Rome.[16] In the fall of 1969, General Alexander Haig, supreme commander of NATO in Europe, and Henry Kissinger, security adviser to the Nixon presidency, authorized Gelli to recruit 400 Italian and NATO officers within the Lodge Propaganda 2.[16] Discovery The activities of the P2 lodge were discovered by prosecutors while investigating banker Michele Sindona, the collapse of his bank and his ties to the Sicilian Mafia.[17] In March 1981, police found a list of alleged members in Gelli's house in Arezzo. It contained 962 names, among which were important state officials, important politicians and a number of military officers, including the heads of the three Italian secret services.[14] Future Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi was on the list, although he had not yet entered politics at the time. Another famous member was Victor Emmanuel, the son of the last Italian king. Prime Minister Arnaldo Forlani (whose chef de cabinet was a P2 member as well)[14] appointed a Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry, headed by the independent DC Tina Anselmi. In May 1981, Forlani was forced to resign due to the P2 scandal, causing the fall of the Italian government.[6][18] In January 1982, the P2 lodge was definitively disbanded by the Law 25 January 1982, no. 17. In July 1982, new documents were found hidden in the false bottom of a suitcase belonging to Gelli's daughter at Fiumicino airport in Rome. The documents were entitled Memorandum sulla situazione italiana ("Memorandum on the Italian Situation") and Piano di rinascita democratica ("Plan of Democratic Rebirth"), and are seen as the political programme of P2. According to these documents, the main enemies of Italy were the Italian Communist Party (PCI) and the trade unions, particularly the Communist Italian General Confederation of Labour (CGIL). These had to be isolated and cooperation with the PCI, the second biggest party in Italy and one of the largest in Europe, which was proposed in the Historic Compromise by Aldo Moro, needed to be disrupted.[14] Gelli's goal was to form a new political and economic elite to lead Italy away from the danger of Communist rule. More controversially, it sought to do this by means of an authoritarian form of democracy.[19] P2 advocated a programme of extensive political corruption: "political parties, newspapers and trade unions can be the objects of possible solicitations which could take the form of economic-financial manoeuvres. The availability of sums not exceeding 30 to 40 billion lire[21] would seem sufficient to allow carefully chosen men, acting in good faith, to conquer key positions necessary for overall control."[14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Macnamara said: CDC Director Julie Gerberding Admits Vaccines Can Cause Autism-Like Symptoms autism-like symptoms = autism. So right there the head of the CDC admitted that children with an underlying mitochondrial disorder can develop fevers after the jabs that then lead to autism After she left the CDC Gerberding went into the private sector where she became the president of Merck's vaccine division... https://www.bitchute.com/video/7IP7LM56qc8/ Have you read any of the various books on vaccines causing autism? (one in particular was excellent, will try and drag out a title at some stage) Its scientifically sound as plain as day and... Poignant bit at around 2mins in. RE vaccines and meeting with Trump 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 A Strategy of Tension The concept of a strategy of tension is that you carry out a false flag attack that you then blame on your opponents so that you can then justify a beefing up of the state's power in order to counter the perceived threat. The term 'false flag' dates back to the times of sail ships where warships would fly their enemies colours to pretend to be friendly so that they might approach their enemy before launching a surprise attack. This ties into the P2 lodge because its members were involved with the CIA's 'stay behind armies' that were created across europe to act as sabateur forces in the event of a soviet invasion of europe. This was called 'operation gladio'. It's believed that an operation gladio unit associated with the P2 lodge carried out a train bombing in bologna, in 1980, that killed 85 people that was then blamed on left wing groups to enable the italians to increase state controls over the general populace. This then leads to the question over whether or not the train bombings in london might have been a similar type of operation and certainly drills for that exact scenario were being carried out in london on the day of the attacks: Eleven Years Ago: The London 7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks? Fictional 7/7 "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's subway By Prof Michel Chossudovsky Global Research, July 10, 2016 Global Research 8 August 2005 A fictional “scenario” of multiple bomb attacks on London’s underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005. Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client. The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring: POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now. HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise? POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don’t want to reveal their name but they’re listening and they’ll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they’d met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on. (BBC Radio Interview, 7 July 2005) http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2005/07/100665.jpgIn response to the flood of incoming email messages, Peter Power –who is a former senior Scotland Yard official specializing in counterterrorism– responded in the form of the following “automatic reply”: “Thank you for your message. Given the volume of emails about events on 7 July and a commonly expressed misguided belief that our exercise revealed prescient behaviour, or was somehow a conspiracy (noting that several websites interpreted our work that day in an inaccurate / naive / ignorant / hostile manner) it has been decided to issue a single email response as follows: It is confirmed that a short number of ‘walk through’ scenarios planed [sic] well in advance had commenced that morning for a private company in London (as part of a wider project that remains confidential) and that two scenarios related directly to terrorist bombs at the same time as the ones that actually detonated with such tragic results. One scenario in particular, was very similar to real time events. However, anyone with knowledge about such ongoing threats to our capital city will be aware that (a) the emergency services have already practiced several of their own exercises based on bombs in the underground system (also reported by the main news channels) and (b) a few months ago the BBC broadcast a similar documentary on the same theme, although with much worse consequences [??]. It is hardly surprising therefore, that we chose a feasible scenario – but the timing and script was nonetheless, a little disconcerting. In short, our exercise (which involved just a few people as crisis managers actually responding to a simulated series of activities involving, on paper, 1000 staff) quickly became the real thing and the players that morning responded very well indeed to the sudden reality of events. Beyond this no further comment will be made and based on the extraordinary number of messages from ill informed people, no replies will henceforth be given to anyone unable to demonstrate a bona fide reason for asking (e.g. accredited journalist / academic). [ signed ] Peter Power” (quoted in London Underground Exercises: Peter Power Responds, Jon Rappoport, July 13 2005 http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/power_responds_terror_drills.htm) Mock Terror Drills http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/waronterrorism.jpgThere was nothing “routine” in the so-called “walk through” scenarios. Visor’s mock terror drills (held on the very same day as the real attack) was by no means an isolated “coincidence”. Power’s email response suggests that mock drills are undertaken very frequently, as a matter of routine, and that there was nothing particularly out of the ordinary in the exercise conducted on July 7th, which just so happened to coincide with the real terror attacks. There have indeed been several documented high profile cases of mock terror drills in the US and the UK, held prior or on exactly the same day and at the same time as the actual terror event. In the three previous cases reviewed below, the mock drills bear a canny resemblance to the real time terror attacks. 1. CIA Sponsored Exercise on the Morning of 9/11 On the morning of September 11 2001, within minutes of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the CIA had been running “a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building”. The simulation was held at the CIA Chantilly Virginia Reconnaissance Office. The Bush administration described the event as “a bizarre coincidence”. The matter was not mentioned by the media.(AP, 22 August 2002) The CIA sponsored simulation consisted in a “scheduled exercise” held on the morning of September 11, 2001, where “a small corporate jet crashed into one of the four towers at the agency’s headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.” (Quoted in Associated Press, 22 August 2002.) The news concerning the 9/11 Chantilly aircraft crashing simulation was hushed up. It was not made public at the time. It was revealed almost a year later, in the form of an innocuous announcement of a Homeland Security Conference. The latter entitled “Homeland Security: America’s Leadership Challenge” was held in Chicago on September 6, 2002, barely a few days before the commemoration of the tragic events of 9/11. The promotional literature for the conference under the auspices of the National Law Enforcement and Security Institute (NLESI) stated what nobody in America knew about. On the morning of 9/11, the CIA was conducting a pre-planned simulation of a plane striking a building. One of the key speakers at the National Law Enforcement and Security Institute conference was CIA’s John Fulton, Chief of the Strategic War Gaming Division of the National Reconnaissance Office a specialist in risk and threat response analysis, scenario gaming, and strategic planning. (See . The National Law Enforcement and Security Institute website is: http://www.nlsi.net/ See also The Memory Hole at http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm): On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day. Information is the most powerful tool available in the homeland security effort. At the core of every initiative currently underway to protect our country and its citizens is the challenge of getting the right information to the right people at the right time. How can so much information from around the world be captured and processed in meaningful and timely ways? Mr. Fulton shares his insights into the intelligence community, and shares a vision of how today’s information systems will be developed into even better counter-terrorism tools of tomorrow. (Ibid) 2. October 2000 Mock Terror Attack on the Pentagon In late October 2000 (more than ten months prior to 9/11), a military exercise was conducted which consisted in establishing the scenario of a simulated passenger plane crashing into the Pentagon. The Defense Protective Services Police and the Pentagon’s Command Emergency Response Team coordinated the exercise. According to a detailed report by Dennis Ryan of Fort Myer Military Community’s Pentagram, “the Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise, as the crash was called, was just one of several scenarios that emergency response teams were exposed to on Oct. 24-26 [2000]”: The fire and smoke from the downed passenger aircraft billows from the Pentagon courtyard. Defense Protective Services Police seal the crash sight. Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid. (…) Don Abbott, of Command Emergency Response Training, walks over to the Pentagon and extinguishes the flames. The Pentagon was a model and the “plane crash” was a simulated one. On Oct. 24, there was a mock terrorist incident at the Pentagon Metro stop and a construction accident to name just some of the scenarios that were practiced to better prepare local agencies for real incidents. (Dennis Ryan, “Contingency planning, Pentagon MASCAL exercise simulates scenarios in preparing for emergencies”, MDW NEWS 3 Nov 2000. http://www.mdw.army.mil/ ) 3. Britain’s Atlantic Blue, April 2005 In Britain, there were several documented exercises of terror attacks on London’s underground system. In addition to the 7/7 exercise conducted by Visor Consultants, a similar mock terror drill on London’s transportation system entitled “Atlantic Blue” was held in April 2005, barely three months prior to the real attacks. In 2003, a mock terror drill labelled OSIRIS 2 was conducted. It consisted, according to Peter Power in testing the “equipment and people deep in the Underground of London”. It involved the participation of several hundred people. (Interview with Peter Power, CTV, 11 July 2005). “Atlantic Blue” was part of a much larger US sponsored emergency preparedness exercise labelled TOPOFF 3, which included the participation of Britain and Canada. It had been ordered by the UK Secretary of State for the Home Department, Mr. Charles Clarke, in close coordination with his US counterpart Michael Chertoff. The assumptions of the Visor Consultants mock drill conducted on the morning of July 7th were similar to those conducted under “Atlantic Blue”. This should come as no surprise since Visor Consultants was involved, on contract to the British government, in the organisation and conduct of Atlantic Blue and in coordination with the US Department of Homeland Security. As in the case of the 9/11 simulation organized by the CIA, the July 7, 2005 Visor mock terror drill, was casually dismissed by the media, without further investigation, as a mere “coincidence”, with no relationship to the real event. Foreknowledge of the 7/7 Attack? According to a report of the Associated Press correspondent in Jerusalem, the Israeli embassy in London had been advised in advance by Scotland Yard of an impending bomb attack: Just before the blasts, Scotland Yard called the security officer at the Israeli Embassy to say they had received warnings of possible attacks, the official said. He did not say whether British police made any link to the economic conference.(AP, 7 July 2005) Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was warned by his embassy not to attend an attend an economic conference organized by the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE) in collaboration with the Israeli embassy and Deutsche Bank. Netanyahu was staying at the Aldridge Hotel in Mayfair. The conference venue was a few miles away at the Great Eastern Hotel close to the Liverpool subway station, where one of the bomb blasts occurred. Rudolph Giuliani’s London Visit Rudolph Giuliani, who was mayor of New York City at the time of the 9/11 attacks, was staying at the Great Eastern hotel on the 7th of July, where TASE was hosting its economic conference, with Israel’s Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as keynote speaker. Giuliani was having a business breakfast meeting in his room at the Great Eastern Hotel, close to Liverpool Street station when the bombs went off: “I didn’t hear the Liverpool Street bomb go off,” he explains. “One of my security people came into the room and informed me that there had been an explosion. We went outside and they pointed in the direction of where they thought the incident had happened. There was no panic. I went back in to my breakfast. At that stage, the information coming in to us was very ambiguous.” (quoted in the Evening Standard, 11 July 2005.) http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Netanyahu-Israel.jpgIsraeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Rudolph Giuliani knew each other. Giuliani had officially welcomed Netanyahu when he visited New York City as Prime Minister of Israel in 1996. There was no indication, however, from news reports that the two men met in London at the Great Eastern. On the day prior to the London attacks, July 6th, Giuliani was in North Yorkshire at a meeting. After completing his term as mayor of New York City, Rudi Giuliani established a security outfit: Giuliani Security and Safety. The latter is a subsidary of Giuliani Partners LLC. headed by former New York head of the FBI, Pasquale D’Amuro. After 9/11, D’Amuro was appointed Inspector in Charge of the FBI’s investigation of 9/11. He later served as Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division at FBI Headquarters and, Executive Assistant Director for Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence. D’Amuro had close links to the Neocons in the Bush adminstration. It is worth noting that Visor Consultants and Giuliani Security and Safety LLC specialize in similar “mock terror drills” and “emergency preparedness” procedures. Both Giuliani and Power were in London at the same time within a short distance of one of the bombing sites. While there is no evidence that Giuliani and Power met in London, the two companies have had prior business contacts in the area of emergency preparedness. Peter Power served on the Advisory Board to the Canadian Centre for Emergency Preparedness (CCEP), together with Richard Sheirer, Senior Vice President of Giuliani and Partners. who was previously Commissioner at the NYC Office of Emergency Management, and Director of New York City Homeland Security. (See CCEP at http://www.ccep.ca/ccep_shei.html) Concluding Remarks One should not at this stage of the investigation draw hasty conclusions regarding the mock terror drill of a terror attack on the London underground, held on the same day and at the same time as the real time attacks. The issue cannot, however, be dismissed. One would expect that it be addressed in a serious and professional fashion by the police investigation and that the matter be the object of a formal clarification by the British authorities. The issue of foreknowledge raised in the Associated Press report also requires investigation. More generally, an independent public inquiry into the London bomb attacks is required. https://www.globalresearch.ca/7-7-mock-terror-drill-what-relationship-to-the-real-time-terror-attacks/821 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Peter Power's 7/7 London Bombing Drill Was "Almost Precisely" What Transpired That Same Day https://www.bitchute.com/video/SLjPpoCviY13/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 MKULTRA mind control experiments by the CIA January 18 1977: Senate Committee Hearings: CIA’s covert research in behavioral modification The joint Senate hearings were led by Sen. Edward Kennedy; the focus was Project MK-ULTRA. But the hearings, as John Marks concluded, added little information about CIA’s behavior-control programs. CIA officials (both past and present) who testified adopted the pattern of lying to Congress as they had lied to the press after the first revelations about MK-ULTRA came out. They took the position that basically nothing of substance was learned during the 25-odd years of research; the bulk of which, they claimed, had ended in 1963. That proposition was, on its face, absurd; “CIA officials actively experimented with behavior control methods for another decade after Sid Gottlieb and company lost the research action.” Among the veteran CIA witnesses who committed outright perjury, Marks cites Robert Lashbrook — who was likely the agent who pushed Frank Olson out the window to his death — who had supervised one of CIA’s “safehouses” and, according to George White’s diary, Lashbrook was present at the time of an “LSD surprise” experiment . Nevertheless, Lashrook denied firsthand knowledge of the safehouse operations. Dr. Charles Geschickter testified that he had not tested stress-producing drugs on human subjects while both his own 1960 proposal to the Agency and the CIA’s documents indicate the opposite. (Marks. Ch 12) Senator Kennedy was not prepared to deal with such inconsistencies. He took no action to follow up obviously perjured testimony. Marks notes that although only a congressional committee could compel truthful testimony, neither Kennedy nor any other investigator put any real pressure on the Agency to reveal the content of the research — what was actually learned — as opposed to the experimental means of carrying it out. The Joint Senate Committee Report (1977) revealed that CIA’s MKULTRA project had subjected 7,000 servicemen and women had been used as guinea pigs along with many thousands of unsuspecting, civilians, including children, and prisoners. In some cases the diabolical experiments resulted in permanently disabling its subjects. The salvaged documents that had been overlooked by Gottlieb and Helms were known within the agency as the “Family Jewels.” They provided a glimpse into the horrific — even depraved — nature of the experiments and the devastating effect on the (mostly) unwitting human victims. They proved to be a treasure trove for investigative reporters and historians. John Marks, whose Freedom of Information request was a three year struggle with the CIA, finally obtained 16,000 pages; they were the primary source for his award winning book, The Search for the Manchurian Candidate (1979) and for several other books, including: Mind Manipulators (1978) by Alan Scheflin and Edward Opton; Operation Mind Control: The CIA’s Plot Against America (1978; 2nd ed. 1994) by Walter Bowart; The Mind Stealers, Psychosurgery and Mind Control (1978) by Samuel Chavkin; BLUEBIRD: Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Psychiatrists (2000) by Dr. Colin A. Ross; Secrets & Lies: A History of CIA Mind Control & Germ Warfare (2007) by Gordon Thomas. https://ahrp.org/1977-senate-committee-hearings-cias-covert-research-in-behavioral-modification/ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Geoengineering aka 'chemtrails' are a thing: Former CIA Director John O. Brennan Speaks to CFR on Chemtrails 1966 US Government Document Outlines National Weather Modification Programs And Implications https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents/19680002906_1968002906.pdf 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: Mysterious Deaths of 911 Witnesses plus the DC Madam: https://www.bitchute.com/video/BQBgQvqXFhky/ There used to be a great montage of bush and cheney lying about the iraq war that the youtube algorithms seem to have disappeared down the communist memory hole so the closest thing i could find was this montage buried in a segment by the dumb turks so you have to skip to 1 minute 35 seconds to hear the montage: These fucking liars killed millions. Great montage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 hours ago, TheConsultant said: Honestly I do not know the ins and outs of the story surrounding it at all only that its not just plausible it goddamn works! Who was investing and what was misunderstood? Sorry for delay - from memory - the investors claimed they thought it wasn't Electrolysis, that Meyer claimed he had a new type of it, but he didn't. In fact thats true, he claimed he had a water splitter device that worked differently to electrolysis. They got an engineering advisor or rather expert in to rule on it, and the advisor ruled it was electrolysis and nothing more - he didn't say it didn't work as expected, just that it was plain old Electrolysis after all. So Stan was deemed a fraud for claiming it wasn't electrolysis when it was and not for claiming the device worked when it didn't. But the headlines don't explain that. He was tarred a fraud and his idea got buried despite the fact that he was seen and televised driving it 100's of miles and it clearly worked. My issue with it - to get it working on a car you need positive earth, my Lotus is a negative earth like every other car. So to go down that road you've got to be ready to solve odd issues integrating with modern instrumentation that works on negative earth. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: CDC Director Julie Gerberding Admits Vaccines Can Cause Autism-Like Symptoms autism-like symptoms = autism. So right there the head of the CDC admitted that children with an underlying mitochondrial disorder can develop fevers after the jabs that then lead to autism After she left the CDC Gerberding went into the private sector where she became the president of Merck's vaccine division... https://www.bitchute.com/video/7IP7LM56qc8/ And lets not forget the original whistleblower that murder.Inc took an instant dislike to and threw him out on his arse, Dr Andrew Wakefield And lets not forget Del Bigtree's importance to help bring attention to Andrews work, Vaxxed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Sorry for delay - from memory - the investors claimed they thought it wasn't Electrolysis, that Meyer claimed he had a new type of it, but he didn't. In fact thats true, he claimed he had a water splitter device that worked differently to electrolysis. They got an engineering advisor or rather expert in to rule on it, and the advisor ruled it was electrolysis and nothing more - he didn't say it didn't work as expected, just that it was plain old Electrolysis after all. So Stan was deemed a fraud for claiming it wasn't electrolysis when it was and not for claiming the device worked when it didn't. But the headlines don't explain that. He was tarred a fraud and his idea got buried despite the fact that he was seen and televised driving it 100's of miles and it clearly worked. My issue with it - to get it working on a car you need positive earth, my Lotus is a negative earth like every other car. So to go down that road you've got to be ready to solve odd issues integrating with modern instrumentation that works on negative earth. Whenever an inventor is killed they change his story with a "he made false/wild claims" angle: 1) Nikola Tesla 2) Starlite "the blastproof material" 3) Jan Sloot 4) Fogelman's wing The inventor ALWAYS makes "fraudulent claims" in their POST-DEATH account... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, Truthblast said: Whenever an inventor is killed they change his story with a "he made false/wild claims" angle: 1) Nikola Tesla 2) Starlite "the blastproof material" 3) Jan Sloot 4) Fogelman's wing The inventor ALWAYS makes "fraudulent claims" in their POST-DEATH account... Yes, it is what they do. Unfortunately people don't look past the headline or question what's reported. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, pi3141 said: Yes, it is what they do. Unfortunately people don't look past the headline or question what's reported. His patent. https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/21/79/f2/7aebcf545568c6/US20050246059A1.pdf Back engineered demonstration Edited April 17, 2023 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Congressman Larry McDonald (D) of Georgia on the show Crossfire in 1983 exposing the Rockefeller Cartel New World Order group of elites seeking one world government and absolute tyranny. He was killed weeks later in Flight 007 along with 269 passengers. https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=8WDBSU2RSUDX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 7 hours ago, TheConsultant said: His patent. https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/21/79/f2/7aebcf545568c6/US20050246059A1.pdf Back engineered demonstration This is the documentary that got me going on all the Free Energy and Over Unity stuff over 2 decades ago - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 16 hours ago, Truthblast said: If I remember correctly the Saudis offered him Billions to buy his patents. Yes that's correct, he refused knowing the technology was good for us and the planet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Truthblast said: 3) Jan Sloot Obviously the work I do this was of great interest to me. Having looked into it, I don't think there was any foul play. The people who would gain would be the MPEG working group and they may have incorporated the idea into MPEG. However with my understanding of video encoding I don't think it would be possible to transmit a picture at the video bit rates he claimed unless the signal was not self contained and used another method, like for instance a colour wheel with colours assigned a short code for reference. This is totally feasible and even MPEG relies on toolkits and of course codes to work. I really wish we knew the truth on this. I think he did it, the witnesses claimed he was able to play several videos at once on an old PC, back in those days playing 1 video maxed out the PC, so he definitely did something, but over the years I've never found out how he did it. I can only guess he used a short code system to assign colours which the receiver would look up on a colour wheel to get the colour. Hence receiver would need substantial, pre-installed codecs to work.But he would only need to transmit a code for pixels or blocks of pixels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, pi3141 said: Free Energy and Over Unity stuff over 2 decades ago I hope you found some of the multiple ways to do just that in that time frame. I assume you did yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 4/15/2023 at 4:28 PM, Morpheus said: @EnigmaticWorld talk about all guns blazing. Why not start a little softer, like, there were no weapons of mass destruction and Blair/Bush are war criminals. Russian dossier/collusion on Trump was false. Hillsborough was a cover-up. 3 big topics to start. Can you explain the hillsborough cover up as im not up to speed with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, Captainlove said: Can you explain the hillsborough cover up as im not up to speed with this one. People that were in positions of authority were negligent at the time it happened, and a desperate attempt to shift blame away from themselves ensued, this was aided and abetted by those elsewhere within the frame work of the lawful/legal/awful system that, we the people, are commanded to live by, and the old boy network of nods and winks still very much alive, kicking and in full effect, thus demonstrating how these coveted positions of social standing to elevate ones self into the cozy club are easily corrupted by those whom do not accept responsibility nor accountability when it all goes horribly wrong on their watch, but are all too willing to take the lucrative wealth and stature that goes with the job. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster Quote: 'The Hillsborough disaster was a fatal human crush during a football match at Hillsborough Stadium in Sheffield, South Yorkshire, England, on 15 April 1989.' Quote: 'The second coroner's inquests were held from 1 April 2014 to 26 April 2016.[13] They ruled that the supporters were unlawfully killed owing to grossly negligent failures by police and ambulance services to fulfil their duty of care.' Quote: 'In June 2017, six people were charged with offences including manslaughter by gross negligence, misconduct in public office and perverting the course of justice for their actions during and after the disaster.' So in summary it took 28 years for the truth to come out and reveal levels of corruption within the lawful/legal/awful system that, we the people are commanded to live by, but those at the top, are above the Law, which is EVIL in my book. And now convid, do you really think that, we the people will stand for another 28 years of time wasting by corrupt stooges occupying positions of influence, control, authority and power? GTFO!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, TheConsultant said: I hope you found some of the multiple ways to do just that in that time frame. I assume you did yes? Yes - Energy, energy everywhere but not a drop to drink. There are many ways to skin that cat. We live in a sea of energy, we could easily tap 'Free Energy' it's all around us. I don't believe fuel or energy shortages need to exist, we already have the solutions, and that's without getting into exotic technologies. I thought of one years ago - atmospheric voltage increases with height - skyscrapers are fitted with lighting conductor strip from top to bottom - what do you reckon the voltage potential would be at the bottom of that strip. From memory, Tesla was first to explain the potential at the top of the Great Pyramid is either 200 or 2000 Volts. There are loads of skyscrapers in America, the power out of those weather strips could power street lights for instance. Then there's Ed Leedskalin's theory - that's the one I'm trying to get my head around - he was right, energy flows in both directions simultaneously- as part of my power systems module we tested electric motors, motors are also generators, but we engineer them to be one or the other, why not use both modes - recoup the power they generate during the off cycle. Which is kinda similar to Bedini, but I think Bedini tapped the noise floor, energy out the vacuum. How much energy does the Earth hold in noise? Nuclear power is nature's gift to us if used wisely - like not building a station on a fault line and making sure the minimum safety requirements are doubled or tripled - it's only concrete ffs, make em thick The list goes on, energy, energy everywhere but not a drop to drink as I like to say. I've got a Tasla coil I removed from a TV years ago, gonna try connecting an aerial to it sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 The Iran-contra affair: The Secret Government - Bill Moyers (1987) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Operation Northwood Operation northwood was an idea cooked up by the CIA to try and foment a hot war against castro by crashing a plane into a building which could then be blamed on castro who would be accused of a 'terrorist' attack. This foreshadowed the 911 attacks which then kick started the 'war on terror'. Just prior to 911 a neoconservative group called the 'project for a new american century' had been created by jewish neocons kagan and kristol which had written a paper that said a new pearl harbour type event would be needed in order to achieve the groups goals. Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against American citizens that originated within the US Department of Defense of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for CIA operatives to both stage and commit acts of violent terrorism against American military and civilian targets, blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the remote control of civilian aircraft which would be secretly repainted as US Air Force planes,[2] a fabricated 'shoot down' of a US Air Force fighter aircraft off the coast of Cuba, the possible assassination of Cuban immigrants, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas,[3] blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating terrorism in U.S. cities.[2] [4] The proposals were rejected by President John F. Kennedy.[5][6][7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) Blackmail operation run by britisb intelligence in ireland: Kincora Boys' Home The Kincora Boys' Home was a boys' home in Belfast, Northern Ireland that was the scene of serious organised child sexual abuse, causing a scandal and attempted cover-up in 1980, with allegations of state collusion.[1] The Northern Ireland Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry (HIA) began examining allegations relating to the Home on 31 May 2016, including claims that there was a paedophile ring at the home with links to the intelligence services. Northern Ireland Secretary Theresa Villiers said that all state agencies would co-operate with the inquiry.[2] On 20 January 2017, the HIA inquiry concluded that the abuse which took place at Kincora Boys' Home was limited to the actions of three staff members, and did not take place with the collusion of the state or intelligence services.[3] The head of the HIA suggested that it was a matter of urgency that the victims be compensated up to £100,000.[4] In 2016, Gary Hoy, a former resident of Kincora lost a UK Supreme Court challenge to the powers of the HIA, which could not compel the UK security services to hand over documents or testify.[5] Clint Massey, another former resident, likewise stated in 2015 that due to the scope of the allegations, the HIA was inappropriate and instead Kincora should be investigated by the Goddard Inquiry.[6] Richard Kerr, a former resident of the institute for boys rejected the remarks made by HIA, specifically that the abuse was "limited to 3 staff members" and in March 2016 filed a High Court Writ in Belfast suing 4 Government Agencies. He had continued to challenge the veracity of its investigation and has advocated to increase scope of the investigation to include sexual abuse at Europa Hotel in Belfast, Northern Ireland, as well as in UK and Europe Allegations of cover-up Allegations were later made that the RUC had been informed of the abuse at the home for years previously, but had not moved to prevent it. In his 1999 book The Dirty War, Martin Dillon claims that McGrath, who was also the leader of an obscure loyalist paramilitary group called Tara, may have been employed by MI5 since the 1960s and was being blackmailed into providing intelligence on other loyalist groups.[12] Ian Paisley, leader of the Democratic Unionist Party and moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church which he founded in 1951, was accused of failing to report McGrath's abuse to the relevant authorities. He initially denied ever being advised by his informant, a church member, Valerie Shaw, that it was taking place. Paisley later gave other versions acknowledging learning from Shaw about McGrath's homosexuality.[13] During this time, it was alleged by the satirical current affairs magazine Private Eye that high-ranking members of the Whitehall Civil Service and senior officers of the British military were involved in the sexual abuse of boys in Kincora. Later revelations In April 1990 a writer called Robert Harbinson (also known as Robin Bryans) stated in the Dublin-based magazine Now that Lord Mountbatten, Anthony Blunt and others were all involved in an old-boy network which held gay orgies in country houses on both sides of the Irish border, as well as at the Kincora Boys' Home. Harbinson sent letters and postcards to the rich and powerful in British establishment circles but once the postcards began to circulate there were complaints to the police and Harbinson was warned that he would be prosecuted for criminal libel.[21] An example of his letter-writing style is copied here. In July 2014 former military intelligence officer Colin Wallace said that any new investigation into the abuse at the home should have access to information from intelligence agencies.[22] Wallace said that he received intelligence in 1973 that boys at the home were being abused, but some of his superior officers refused to pass on information.[22] He also said that the Terry and Hughes inquiries did not examine evidence relating to the intelligence services.[22] In August 2014 another former intelligence officer, Brian Gemmell, said that he also had been ordered to stop investigating allegations of abuse at the home.[23] He said that he learned details of what happened in the home while gathering information on loyalists.[23] He was told he was running two agents who had close links to the home.[23] As well as telling him not to investigate, the senior officer told him to stop running an agent.[23] He had spoken out anonymously before, but dropped his anonymity because he wanted the allegations to be investigated again.[23] It was alleged that extreme Ulster loyalists who were members of a paedophile ring committing offences at the Home were being blackmailed by MI5 and other branches of the security forces during the Troubles. In 2015 campaigners were trying to have Kincora included in a wide-ranging inquiry to establish whether the security services prevented action on the abuse so they could compromise some of the perpetrators.[24] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kincora_Boys'_Home Edited April 17, 2023 by Macnamara 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 The Gulf of Tonkin Incident In 1964 the US was already running covert ops in north vietnam and flying unofficial sorties against the vietcong. However in order to get 'boots on the ground' they pretended that a violent exchange had occurred between the north vietnamese navy and the US navy which never actually occurred. President LBJ then made an address to the american people saying that with great reluctance he was going to have to wage landwar in vietnam. Other false flags used to begin wars included the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana harbour in 1898 and the sinking of the lusitania which then brought the US into world war 1. The Gulf of Tonkin incident (Vietnamese: Sự kiện Vịnh Bắc Bộ) was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War. It involved both a proven confrontation on August 2, 1964, carried out by North Vietnamese forces in response to covert operations in the coastal region of the gulf, and a second, claimed confrontation on August 4, 1964, between North Vietnamese and United States ships in the waters of the Gulf of Tonkin. Originally American claims blamed North Vietnam for both attacks. Later investigation revealed that the second attack never happened; the American claim is that it was based mostly on erroneously interpreted communications intercepts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Later revelations In April 1990 a writer called Robert Harbinson (also known as Robin Bryans) stated in the Dublin-based magazine Now that Lord Mountbatten, Anthony Blunt and others were all involved in an old-boy network which held gay orgies in country houses on both sides of the Irish border, as well as at the Kincora Boys' Home. The Cambridge Five As i've found out reading into the SOE and its activities in the second world war the british intelligence services were absolutely riddled with marxists. There were different circles of people eg homosexuals, marxists, pedos, jews, satanists and oftentimes these circles overlapped with each other. The fifth of the cambridge 5 that is often not named is believed by some to be victor rothschild. The maquis (french resistance) which the SOE armed, funded and trained in the second world war was also jam-packed with communists. The Cambridge Five was a ring of spies in the United Kingdom that passed information to the Soviet Union during the Second World War and The Cold War and was active from the 1930s until at least the early 1950s. None of the known members were ever prosecuted for spying. The number and membership of the ring emerged slowly, from the 1950s onwards.[1] The general public first became aware of the conspiracy after the sudden flight of Donald Maclean (cryptonym: Homer) and Guy Burgess (cryptonym: Hicks) to the Soviet Union in 1951. Suspicion immediately fell on Harold "Kim" Philby (cryptonyms: Sonny, Stanley), who eventually fled to the Soviet Union in 1963. Following Philby's flight, British intelligence obtained confessions from Anthony Blunt (cryptonym: Johnson) and then John Cairncross (cryptonym: Liszt), who have come to be seen as the last two of a group of five. Their involvement was kept secret for many years: until 1979 for Blunt, and 1990 for Cairncross. The moniker Cambridge Four evolved to become the Cambridge Five after Cairncross was added.[1] The term "Cambridge" refers to the recruitment of the group during their education at the University of Cambridge in the 1930s. Debate surrounds the exact timing of their recruitment by Soviet intelligence. Blunt claimed that they were not recruited as agents until after they had graduated. A Fellow of Trinity College, Blunt was several years older than Burgess, Maclean, and Philby; he acted as a talent-spotter and recruiter.[2] All of the five were convinced that the Marxism–Leninism of Soviet communism was the best available political system, and especially the best defence against the rise of fascism. All pursued successful careers in branches of the British government. They passed large amounts of intelligence to the Soviets, so much so that the KGB became suspicious that at least some of it was false. Perhaps as important as the intelligence they passed was the demoralizing effect to the British establishment of their slow unmasking, and the mistrust in British security this caused in the United States. Many others have also been accused of membership in the Cambridge ring. Blunt and Burgess were both members of the University Pitt Club as well as the Cambridge Apostles, exclusive secret societies at Cambridge University.[3] Other Apostles accused of having spied for the Soviets include Michael Straight. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Five Edited April 17, 2023 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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