Mono Inc Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 I'm impatient but still hope it will be 4/20, 42, the answer to life the universe and everything just keeps poping up in Starship and Superheavy development 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Latest News 17/04/2023 LiveLIVE SpaceX halts Starship launch at last minute Elon Musk's company SpaceX postpones the debut launch of the most powerful rocket ever built The entrepreneur says a frozen valve meant the giant rocket could not take off as planned, but they will try again in a few daysThe vehicle is being put to the test in the belief it could eventually usher in an era of interplanetary travel Thousands of people had gathered on beaches along the Gulf of Mexico hoping to witness the spectacle When it does eventually take off, the planned test flight should fly most of the way around the Earth and splash down in Hawaii Ahead of the launch Musk said he wanted to lower expectations, and said afterwards that the team had learned a lot What an absolute farse ! In case we forget Hitler seemed to have a pretty good mastery of rocket technolgy That was 80 years ago! he mass produced them and was able to shower London with over 3,000 with very few technical problems. Now it's fingers crossed whether they'll even get of the launch pad because of basic problems like a "frozen valve" . The controllers defienietly do not want civillians in space . These space tourism companies have two main objectives , to destroy investors wealth and convince people these primative rockets are cutting edge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 15 hours ago, oz93666 said: What an absolute farse ! In case we forget Hitler seemed to have a pretty good mastery of the only thing those rockets have in comon is the word rocket.....but i wouldn't expext anything less from you Oz!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, screamingeagle said: the only thing those rockets have in comon is the word rocket.....but i wouldn't expext anything less from you Oz!!! They're esentially the same , both used liquid oxygen at -183C so they have to have pumps and valves that don't freeze up at these temperature . A frozen valve was the reason given for yesterdays abort , if we believe that ... So apparently enginerring has taken a step backward over the last 80 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 no they are not,it's like saying that all tires of today and 100 years ago are the same because they have valve and air 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Inc Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 3:17 PM, oz93666 said: Latest News 17/04/2023 LiveLIVE SpaceX halts Starship launch at last minute Elon Musk's company SpaceX postpones the debut launch of the most powerful rocket ever built The entrepreneur says a frozen valve meant the giant rocket could not take off as planned, but they will try again in a few daysThe vehicle is being put to the test in the belief it could eventually usher in an era of interplanetary travel Thousands of people had gathered on beaches along the Gulf of Mexico hoping to witness the spectacle When it does eventually take off, the planned test flight should fly most of the way around the Earth and splash down in Hawaii Ahead of the launch Musk said he wanted to lower expectations, and said afterwards that the team had learned a lot What an absolute farse ! In case we forget Hitler seemed to have a pretty good mastery of rocket technolgy That was 80 years ago! he mass produced them and was able to shower London with over 3,000 with very few technical problems. Now it's fingers crossed whether they'll even get of the launch pad because of basic problems like a "frozen valve" . The controllers defienietly do not want civillians in space . These space tourism companies have two main objectives , to destroy investors wealth and convince people these primative rockets are cutting edge. Any engineer worth his salt knows that usually not everything works first try. This was a test Your the superstar engineer who didn't even know how a refrigerator worked. Tell me who these investors in SpaceX are, I would like to know. Comparing Starship/Superheavy to a V1 or V2 is laughable. Formula one cars breakdown often, there the cutting edge of automobile technology. Hitler knew Jack about rocket science 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, screamingeagle said: no they are not,it's like saying that all tires of today and 100 years ago are the same because they have valve and air I hope your not suggesting the latest rocket is tubeless Edited April 18, 2023 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 7 hours ago, peter said: I hope your not suggesting the latest rocket is tubeless take a pick tubless or engineless(this one is powered by bouncing from the dome and if you are wondering how it get there,it's aconspiracy) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Inc Posted April 20, 2023 Author Share Posted April 20, 2023 The development prototype lifted off and didn't destroy the launch pad Mission accomplished Not long to wait for the next try 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Mono Inc said: The development prototype lifted off and didn't destroy the launch pad Mission accomplished Not long to wait for the next try Where's this space x supposed to be going ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mono Inc said: The development prototype lifted off and didn't destroy the launch pad Mission accomplished Not long to wait for the next try But you forgot to mention it then blew up!!! Musk is playing this down as if no big problem ! So huanity is being indoctrinated here to believe space tourism is dangerouse and not realistic in Musk's own words after yesterdays explosion Word for word quote! " Success is not what should be expected , that would be insane " Edited April 21, 2023 by oz93666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 That was one expensive firework... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) On 4/21/2023 at 11:43 AM, oz93666 said: So huanity is being indoctrinated here to believe space tourism is dangerouse and not realistic in Musk's own words after yesterdays explosion Word for word quote! " Success is not what should be expected , that would be insane " I'm not saying one way or another but is that statement in context ,just asking I think there is an old saying that is very relevant, If at first you don't succeed etc etc etc How many times do you think they tried different configurations of electric motors before one worked good enough to be put into production or what about the original jet engine,do you think they built the motor and it worked so well right off the bat and didn't suffer any catastrophic failures etc so they just bunged them straight into an Me 262 and off they went . Notice that these two examples were in their day brand new technologies. There is a lot of things I don't agree with about Musk and what he is doing ,but in this regard at least he is having a go and to suggest he is spending all this money just to somehow make humanity believe that space tourism isn't safe so they wont partake , from my point of view is a bit silly, I think that most people realize that space travel at this point in time is not safe. It is a matter of perceived risk more people get killed in cars and in small planes but they still get in them Edited April 22, 2023 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Where will SpaceX starship go? The flight plan called for the Starship spacecraft to reach a higher altitude of about 150 miles before splashing down in the Pacific Ocean near Hawaii about 90 minutes later. A bit of an expensive to do for all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Inc Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 2:43 AM, oz93666 said: But you forgot to mention it then blew up!!! Musk is playing this down as if no big problem ! So huanity is being indoctrinated here to believe space tourism is dangerouse and not realistic in Musk's own words after yesterdays explosion Word for word quote! " Success is not what should be expected , that would be insane " He was talking about this specific test and he said it beforehand. It isn't a big problem, it was expected. How does the falcon 9 fit in to your conspiracy. Very reliable and takes tourists to space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 hours ago, alexa said: Where will SpaceX starship go? up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, peter said: up Then down, what a waste of time & money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 7 hours ago, peter said: I'm not saying one way or another but is that statement in context ,just asking I think there is an old saying that is very relevant, If at first you don't succeed etc etc etc How many times do you think they tried different configurations of electric motors before one worked good enough to be put into production or what about the original jet engine,do you think they built the motor and it worked so well right off the bat and didn't suffer any catastrophic failures etc so they just bunged them straight into an Me 262 and off they went . Notice that these two examples were in their day brand new technologies. There is a lot of things I don't agree with about Musk and what he is doing ,but in this regard at least he is having a go and to suggest he is spending all this money just to somehow make humanity believe that space tourism isn't safe so they wont partake , from my point of view is a bit silly, I think that most people realize that space travel at this point in time is not safe. It is a matter of perceived risk more people get killed in cars and in small planes but they still get in them We have to view this in the contex of what is happening in the world in all areas ... There is a controlling Cabal who do not want human progress . Everything is controlled and corupted , The medical system is drug based offering over priced medication that may supress symptoms but cause more issues late , even doctors when surveyed say they wouldnt themselves take cemotherapy .... The education system is to dumb everyone down , force feed with stupid facts which are all forgotten in a few years , The legal system ensures crime continues . And the economic structure keeps us all poor. So the area of Space is no different. 25 years ago the Cabal saw that independent entrepreneurs were pushing to get into space if the Cabal didn't get control of this sector there would be a dozen different start up companies the public would be willing to invest in and things would be out of their control. So they push forward two of their guys , Branson and Musk (always give the public the illusion of choice) These two were already 'golden boys' haveing exelled in other areas and were hero's to many , so the public investors who wanted to get back to the moon , now have a simple choice , they buy shares in Musk or Branson these are known figures they can trust in this way true independent start ups are starved of funds and fail. Then it's relativly easy to manage these two companies to make sure they achieve little . Wild promises to keep investment coming that are never realized. and convincing the public this is really a very difficult task and they can't expect too much too soon The Cabal do not want the public in Space , they already have bases on the moon and elswere which must remain secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, alexa said: Then down, what a waste of time & money. If every one had that attitude we would all be still sitting around rubbing two sticks together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Inc Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, alexa said: Then down, what a waste of time & money. Not your time or money. Back to the caves everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Mono Inc said: How does the falcon 9 fit in to your conspiracy. Very reliable and takes tourists to space. Ah yes .... Falcon 9 a seperate Musk run rocket enterprise ... No frozen valves on these rockets , they all perform the task without problems , over and over Hundreds of succesful launches .. They're putting up the 5G satelight network so mind control signals can be beamed to even the remotest location (transduced by nano chips in our bodies which most have injested). ... So it's full steam ahead with these rockets ! He's got 4,000 5G satelights in orbit already with plans for anothe 8,000. He has used only one launch (to my knowlede) to put tourists into low Earth orbit and rendevue with the space station ... This is not a problem for the Cabal , people are already there , as I said in another post it's moon and mars bases they want kept secret , and they generally want to prevent people wizzing around in space in large numbers. The ET's have thousands of UFO missions daily abducting people and other things and large scale tourism would interfer. This thread has not dealt with most of the problems arising from the recent launch. At take off the thrust destroyed the launch pad , so that all has to be rebuilt .... The flying concret smashed into and damaged near by tanks which service the rocket so these have to be fixed. And photos from the launch show 5 of the 33 engine not fireing (see still in video above circled in red). So it's a cataloge of errors and setbacks all delaying things.... The destruction of the launch pad is rediculouse ! This couldn't have been forseen? Apollo figured out how to avoid this 60 years ago! I'm not suggesting Musk plots and plans how to delay this prodject ... It's all done by mindcontrol/mindinfluence of him and the engineeres involved , they are influence to overlook certain things ..... The ET's who are the real controllers are expert at this. Niether do I believe Musk chose 33 engines in a knowing way . This was also probably suggested by engieeres as a good idea , and they were mind managed to do this by the ET controllers ... WHY ? To discredit the truth movement! ... They knew truthers would see this 33 and make the freemason link and the public hearing this wouldn't believe it and think truthers are crazy... This is a big component in their stratagy to discredit conspyracy theorists , our numbers are very small . but we are the only opposition they face, and they do know with modern media ideas can go viral overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, oz93666 said: We have to view this in the contex of what is happening in the world in all areas ... There is a controlling Cabal who do not want human progress . I'm not disagreeing with what you said above I was looking at it from a purely engineering perspective What will be the ultimate use of these and for how long is anyone's guess, in my opinion technology has already surpassed this mode of operation and as such has been withheld from the general public for quite a while because of the inconvenient questions that will eventually be asked. I can't see this new technology being integrated into common human society until the drilling for oil becomes financially unviable and I can't see that happening any time soon as the new theories on oil formation has nothing to do with ancient forests etc( therefore a finite resource) it is a by product of the formation of group of rock forming minerals called olivines which are common and found in volcanic igneous rock .This type of rock is being produced all the time and if the theory is correct oil is being continuously created and replenished Edited April 23, 2023 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, peter said: ...... in my opinion technology has already surpassed this mode of operation and as such has been withheld from the general public for quite a while because of the inconvenient questions that will eventually be asked. I agree with that Peter ... Particularly with regard to Space travel. Back in the 1980's Bob Lazar was recruited by the US Government to furthur develop anti gravity craft he reports he saw many hangers with different types of craft being worked on in Area 51 ... This is where the missing Trillions $ from the pentagon budget go each year , mostly off world ... A clear picture has emerged of this "Secret Space Program" from literally hundreds of whistleblowers .... approximately a million mind subjugated humans living off planet in bases and advanced craft ... this SSP had bases on the moon before Apollo 11 was faked. 1 hour ago, peter said: ..new theories on oil formation has nothing to do with ancient forests etc( therefore a finite resource) it is a by product of the formation of group of rock forming minerals called olivines which are common and found in volcanic igneous rock .This type of rock is being produced all the time and if the theory is correct oil is being continuously created and replenished . I have come across this abiogenic petroleum theory , but not looked into it deeply , very complex ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, oz93666 said: Back in the 1980's Bob Lazar was recruited by the US Government to furthur develop anti gravity craft Yes Bob Lazar is an interesting character, he has never changed his story in 35 or so years ,never made a cent from telling his story and is reluctant to even talk about it. To me that demonstrates loads of credibility 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Starship grounded indefinitetly Musk needs permision from the Federal Aviation Authority for every launch , The FAA have just anounced they are withholding this untill an extensive investigation is carried out on the impact of the concret debris and dust on the environment wildlife and residense of the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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