whiteboyal Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Money, success and passion not being a concern, will studying a 4 year long bachelor degree program (and later on master's or PhD) called physics and philosophy or just physics at a well ranked university lead me to success in finding more evidence of what David Icke says in his books, in which I can become a leading expert in and also have an influence on what is really happening in the world? I only read a few of David's books so far but its clear he uses non-mainstream info or scientists and their studies/research as evidence for certain things he can prove as evidence. From what I noticed a lot of studies and scientists in his books are within the field of physics or similar and provide some of the info David Icke uses. If I pursue heavily studying physics or some other related program and become an expert in the field will I be able to potentially contribute to the kind of research and info David Icke uses and help prove how the nature of reality works in relation to consciousness? I know this is a general and difficult question to answer but appreciate any insights or advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Its up to you what you do. I don't think they will like you trying to teach davids ideas. But give it a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregory-peccary Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 A degree in Physics and Philosophy should give you enough info to work out who is full of shit and who is not. Which theories work, which don't, and where you should apply your energies to prove or debunk various long held theories and various obviously bollocks conspiracy theories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 electromagnetics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) On 3/3/2023 at 5:59 AM, whiteboyal said: Money, success and passion not being a concern, will studying a 4 year long bachelor degree program (and later on master's or PhD) called physics and philosophy or just physics at a well ranked university lead me to success in finding more evidence of what David Icke says in his books i think a lot of content in the alternative media is more meta-physics as it is beyond the current newtonian conception of the world if you are talking purely about what might give you an income in the future then looking at the direction of travel it would be hard not to conclude that things are becoming increasingly electric. So physics might translate into a career in electro-mechanical engineering which would give you a wide scope of options. If you can fix anything electric you will also be a very popular guy! Edited March 7 by Macnamara 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Physics & philosophy are both quite pure subjects rather than applied ones like engineering, but I guess there are good careers out there as well as letting you research David's ideas. Will you get into a lot of student debt doing this course? That would make me hesitate going to uni now, unless I had a reliable income at the end of it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Far better to start a worthy career by learning how to make useful things: wooden clubs, bows and arrows, flint axes, spears, ... WWIII is a-coming and, assuming you survive, everyone left will be needing your skills! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 54 minutes ago, webtrekker said: Far better to start a worthy career by learning how to make useful things: wooden clubs, bows and arrows, flint axes, spears, ... WWIII is a-coming and, assuming you survive, everyone left will be needing your skills! Disagree with wwIII, that was the cold war, it is in fact wwIIII, the war for your heart and mind, everything else i can not fault except grow bags for the win, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 14 hours ago, Campion said: Physics & philosophy are both quite pure subjects rather than applied ones like engineering, but I guess there are good careers out there as well as letting you research David's ideas. Will you get into a lot of student debt doing this course? That would make me hesitate going to uni now, unless I had a reliable income at the end of it. absolutely. At the end of the day this conspiracy stuff can be researched in someones spare time but life needs an income and that means being practical people say 'money can't buy you happiness' but money sure as heck can make your life run smoother and oftentimes that equates to happiness as a life of constant obstacles and challenges can be pretty wearing so i'd aim to try and take what subjects you love and then to see how that can translate into a useful career 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: so i'd aim to try and take what subjects you love and then to see how that can translate into a useful career Yes, and these days apprenticeships are often worth looking into, you can get paid while studying plus you don't get saddled with a huge student debt. Apprenticeships aren't just for manual jobs these days, they're also for professional skills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Depends what you wish to achieve. If you wish to understand Physics, do not go to university. If you wish to earn a living, going to university can help you slot right in to this system, albeit with a substantial debt. I find doing what you are most passionate about is the best fuel source and if that becomes a way to earn a living that is only a massive bonus, always invest your time in what fuels you most. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 If I had it all to do again, I would learn a trade, master it, and sell my skills wherever needed because in the near future, practical skills will be at a premium. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, Campion said: Yes, and these days apprenticeships are often worth looking into, you can get paid while studying plus you don't get saddled with a huge student debt. that was how it was done back in the day when britain had the word 'great' in its title 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 16 hours ago, Macnamara said: that was how it was done back in the day when britain had the word 'great' in its title That's the road many of my mates travelled. The local council always hired apprentices and - in the days when we had major engineering companies in our city - they would pick the cream of the crop to take on. Schools taught woodwork and metalwork as well as domestic science for the lasses. Lads of 18 and 19 that I knew were making good money while I was scraping by on a student grant plus whatever I could make loading newspaper lorries at night. The armed forces offered trades too. My friend Jed joined the RAF and when he left after 12 years, worked out in Saudi making a mint working on their aircraft. The elites don't want an educated and skilled working class. They don't want us thinking for ourselves and having excellent problem-solving skills. They'd rather ship those jobs overseas and write Giros every week (that dates me, I know). They turned the UK into a 'service economy' whatever that means. They sold off the assets of the people to their party donors and with it the rights of the workers. Class hatred was very strong back then but these days, maybe not so much. The job is done. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteboyal Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 On 3/8/2023 at 9:11 AM, TheConsultant said: Depends what you wish to achieve. If you wish to understand Physics, do not go to university. If you wish to earn a living, going to university can help you slot right in to this system, albeit with a substantial debt. I find doing what you are most passionate about is the best fuel source and if that becomes a way to earn a living that is only a massive bonus, always invest your time in what fuels you most. Why not go to university to understand physics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 8 hours ago, whiteboyal said: Why not go to university to understand physics? As controversial as it may sound, Physics is very misunderstood in academia. As an example, Quantum Physics is the study of light yet incorrectly describes what light is throughout. Our interpretation of repeatable experiments holds no barring whatsoever on the explanation given Double-Slit Experiment being a prime example. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteboyal Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 10 hours ago, TheConsultant said: As controversial as it may sound, Physics is very misunderstood in academia. As an example, Quantum Physics is the study of light yet incorrectly describes what light is throughout. Our interpretation of repeatable experiments holds no barring whatsoever on the explanation given Double-Slit Experiment being a prime example. yeah i heard about that, so are you saying universities teach some of the wrong info? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Study what your interested in ,remember it's up to you,why ask someone else's advice. The answer you receive will only be from the perspective of the advice giver anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peter Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 23 hours ago, DonaldJ Nephilim said: On 3/2/2023 at 11:59 PM, whiteboyal said: Money, success and passion not being a concern, will studying a 4 year long bachelor degree program (and later on master's or PhD) called physics and philosophy or just physics at a well ranked university lead me to success in finding more evidence of what David Icke says in his books, in which I can become a leading expert in and also have an influence on what is really happening in the world? I only read a few of David's books so far but its clear he uses non-mainstream info or scientists and their studies/research as evidence for certain things he can prove as evidence. From what I noticed a lot of studies and scientists in his books are within the field of physics or similar and provide some of the info David Icke uses. If I pursue heavily studying physics or some other related program and become an expert in the field will I be able to potentially contribute to the kind of research and info David Icke uses and help prove how the nature of reality works in relation to consciousness? I know this is a general and difficult question to answer but appreciate any insights or advice. Dear Whiteboyal.. You don't need to immerse in anything when there is so much to learn, know, explore, become.. All you need do is familiarize yourself with a little bit of everything to acquire the big picture, like how I did it... It's too easy.. I did it when I was 14 to 15.. I cleaned up, and took the bus to Western University Ontario (UWO).. At 14, I confidently walked into the university Chemistry building with a list of chemicals and chemistry apparatus that I wanted/needed for my little basement chemistry lab.. I walked into the Dean's office of 'The Honourable Mr. Fred Pattison', and asked his tall red/blond haired secretary if I could speak with the Dean.. Out he came, and invited me into his office.. I explained that I needed specific chemicals and apparatus for my experiments with plants.. He pulled out his Merck Index Chemicals Manual, and quizzed me on all the dangerous chemicals in my list.. I knew what each one was used for.. Suddenly he was phoning the resident Glass-Blower telling him to make everything I requested for free, and phoning the Library telling them to issue me with a library card, and phoning Chemical Stores telling them to pick up my chemicals list, and he handed me the key to the front room of chemical stores telling me to leave the key inside on the desk, and that my chemicals order would be ready noon tomorrow for pick up.. Then he requested that I drop in on the top floor labs cold-call, and chat with them... That was the only time in my whole life that I was ever treated with honour, dignity, and respect.. As I exited his office, and was slowly closing the huge door I heard him say to his secretary in a deep voice "Prodigy"... I told you that so I could tell you this: I used my university library rights to read the bases and ceilings of every Science, every weekend for two years... I didn't need to know the full contents of each science, only the beginnings and the ends.. The rest, my mind would figure out if I needed it.. I did the same with the world's bibles, philosophies, schools of thought, martial arts, religions, governance, psychiatry... I did as Mr. Pattison requested in visiting the top floor labs.. I knocked, and was invited in.. The fellow said "I've heard about you.. Show me your list of chemicals.. Ok, I have these, but not these, here's the clean vials and the clean spoons, here's where the used spoons go.. Take what you need, Don't contaminate, and tell me when you're finished".. Ok, I'm finished.. "Ok, Let me see what you've got.. Ok, now I have given you what you wanted, here's what I have.".. His lab apparatus was crammed full lab black lab-tables covered with attached apparatus, bubbling, boiling, steaming, stirring, evaporating, condensing, moving through glass tubing, ending dripping into a single flask.. "I won't tell you what it does, only that it stops here,".. He pointed to a flask that had spinning magnets in it an a tiny flame under it.. "It stops here.. I would love to hear your opinion on it.".. I slowly panned the whole apparatus assembly from start to end, then focused deeply upon the troubled flask, and stared at it with all of me (eyes, brain, mind, & spirit) for a couple minutes while he hovered over me waiting patiently for 'the big miracle'.. The moment I had a new thought on it I pointed at the problem flask, saying "Why don't you give it rest right here.".. He stood straight up with his hands in the air, and Shouted "YES!", and dove into five huge thick chemistry manuals... I had solved his problem, not knowing anything about university Chemistry... If you have a functional viable mind you don't need to know the contents of something, only the start and end of it, like making a baby, all you need to know is how to kiss while you're happy and smiling, and how a baby is born, the rest just happens: huffa-huffa zip zop ploosh Eyieee splat Waaahhhhhhh... But, If you've ingested cocaino or meth, and an excess of booze, or if your mum did while she was pregnant with you, you probably don't possess a viable functional mind, nor a living spirit, so forget it.. Coke and alcohol suicided your brain, mind, and spirit.. It all got melted.. You got mutated into a zombie bonobo.. You are dead-inside... Stop using those horrid cellphones. The radiation destroys/melts your brain, mind, and spirit.. I have 150 various cellphones and the like, but I have never ever sent a text.. I have made about ten emergency calls with those deadly toys, and that's it.. I keep one in the truck's glove-box, turned off, for emergency use only... I read that there are about 2 billion humans globally with cellphone microwave brain-cancer... Way back in early WW2, there were two electronics researchers in a lab researching radar for the North American military.. They were both hospitalized in their early 40's.. They died of microwave radiation like Mme. Curie died of radiation.. Their autopsies found all their internal organs were cooked to a nice meaty brown.. What makes cellphone microwave radiation safe, to hold those damn deadly things against the side of your head all day..? Microwaves cook tissues is scientific fact.. Cellphones is Suicide.. This world is gagagoogoo kookoo Insane... At 16, I walked into Victoria Hospital, and down the hall to the private research-labs.. I peaked in the window of an occupied lab.. The smiling old fellow came to the door, and invited me in.. He looked a bit confused.. He said "Well you're here, and I'm here, so there must be a higher reason for it, so I'm gonna teach you my trade, which is Nuclear Physics.".. He treated me the same as Mr. Pattison did.. "Look at this, this is heavy water, don't touch it, but you can pick it up by the handle an inch up to feel its weight.. This stuff here is radium.. I'm gonna show you a powerful but useless chemical reaction.".. He poured concentrated sulphuric acid into a thick-walled test-tube one-third full, then gently slowly poured-in an equal amount of ethyl alcohol floating on the acid, then dropped in a pinch of potassium permanganate crystals, and set it in the safety fume hood.. In about two-minutes the chemical reaction started.. I was amazed... I left that lab filled-up with a new Science... Twenty-years later I figured-out how to build a device that would vacuum nuclear particles out and off of nuclear waste (a sampler cct), but nuclear science told me my idea couldn't work, that I was just delusion.. Mindless spirit-dead cokeheads who can't even solve 17 times 7 in their heads tell me that my Sciences can't work... I figured out how to crack the bonds of the inert elements to the tune of 200-million new chemical compounds... BS-Science cokefried elitists tell me it can't work, so they've rejected my offer... I could have saved the Pacific Ocean from dying with this device... Humanity didn't want it... I could create new medicines that would regrow damaged brains and new organs.. The mindless gagagoogoo cokefries in authority tell me it can't work, that it's all just an old man's delusion, but they sure tried hard to steal my well-hidden science-notes to appease their dreams of avarice, so I burned all my 100,000 alien nephilim science papers, and the 100-CD's, and smashed the two alien engines to dust on the anvil.. The liquid electricity power supply, and the liquid light engine no longer exist.. I ain't delusional, your whole species is... I sure ain't gonna let vicious violent bonobo power-hungry money-sucking hoodlums have these dangerous technologies!.. 8 hours ago, DonaldJ Nephilim said: Dear Peter.. It goes much deeper and wider than that sir.. To be the full complete human one needs to know the bases and ceilings of everything humanity knows, to give the student of life a solid base being what we are, then you specialize.. How can you specialize if you don't know what you're interested in..? (read that statement 20-times).. If one is asking advice it means one doesn't have a viable base.. It means one is essentially forever essentially 'parent-dependent'... To be the full human it is absolutely necessary one knows the bases and ceilings of everything there is in humanity and in our Creators two science encyclopedias, the akashic records and the voynich..... It should be a school year, teaching kids all the ceilings and bases of all the sciences, and socialitics, 100% exam-free at year's end... The kiddies get a school year without exams, without the regimenting, packaging, and permeating stench of the herd's common-latrine... During that year of bases and ceilings, the system should be kind and lenient, allowing all mistakes and misgivings without any strictness, treating the kiddies like the classroom is one big happy carefree family on vacation.. Even serve milk and cookies occasionally during class.. Call it 'the vacation school year'... If a student doesn't care about a specific base or ceiling, then let it slide for that individual.. So What if someone chooses to not like something.. That's part of what makes us individuals.. Teach individualism in this specialty year... Make the boxy latrine-biased educational system work more, stifle less... Way back when I was a kid in school, they erased us, and crushed our spirits, then filled us up with insane sewage... Now days school is just extended daycare so the kiddies won't be home alone making illegitimate babies, and burning the houses down, while mummies and daddies are at work... Now days kids don't have the wits, will, nor ability to learn... School gives them nothing... Most kiddies would rather have a video-games and cellphone class room, with free cocaine with their milk and cookies... I would like to see the chocolate tree air-defoliated extincted to kill the world's cocaine... The big mess the world is in is because of cocaine... Cocaine is anunnaki zombie candy... 38 minutes ago, DonaldJ Nephilim said: I should add to that post: " It should be a school year, teaching kids all the ceilings and bases of all the sciences, and socialitics, 100% exam-free at year's end..." It should be a school year, teaching kids all the ceilings and bases of all the sciences, and socialitics, and basically what all the tools are, and how all the tools work, the basics of how we use humanity's tools.. Taught, but not enforced, just taught enough so every child, every boy and girl, every human, knows those tools are there/here, and what they do, without the need to become skilled in them.. I.E.: 'Dear Students: This is a VISE GRIP.. It adjusts thus.. It locks thus.. It can squeeze things like this.. It can turn a stubborn bolt or nut.. It can pull a nail.. It can turn a damaged screw.. It can rip sheet steel.. It can bend metal.. It can cut thick wire.. It can cut a coat hangar.. It can act as a portable hand-held vise to hold something tight and snug.. It can be used as a clamp.. It can be used to turn a stubborn cap off a can or bottle.. If you leave it out in the rain for a year it will rust horribly like this one did.. Respect your tools, and they will last and work forever.. Brand name 'ViseGrips' have lifetime warranty stamped right into the metal, which means if you wreck it, any store that sells them will replace it free.. Vise Grips are available in several sizes formats for different tasks.. If you buy the cheap ones that don't have 'visegrip' stamped into the metal, they don't work well, and they don't last very long... The real ones are a bit expensive.. Sometimes you can get good ones from garage sales for just a couple dollars... The students (girls & boys) each gets the op to hands-on explore the vise grip tool.. Each gets to test out each different type of vise grip, Once.. If they don't catch onto it the first lesson, then that's OK.. If a girl student wishes to not touch the tool, then let it slide for that student.. This is just 'Show and Tell', it isn't a life or death thing.. It just means that person doesn't want to touch that tool, she only wants to look at it, if that.. Don't enforce it.. This class is presentation show and tell only.. At least now they have been indoctrinated into seeing and hearing about the tool's existence.. It isn't a lesson to be enforced, nor tested, nor examed.. 100% exam-free at year's end... It doesn't matter if a student doesn't catch onto it.. What matters is that they have now been shown the thing and its features,and are aware of its existance, then move onto the next life-lesson.. Teach a new tool tomorrow, like 'The Hammer'.. Ooooooo: the Hammer.... I walked into my back yard early spring.. I heard a tiny persistent tapping from over the fence.. I looked.. The beautiful foxy oh so gorgeous single female neighbour, a true pure 'Ginger', pure and innocent as it gets, was pounding-in the loose raised spikes in her deck, holding the hammer by the claw, hitting the heads of the nails with the butt-end of the hammer's wooden handle.. I glanced up to the sky, and whispered 'thankyou', then looked at my feet to be sure I was still on planet earth... 'Hi there neighbour.. There's another way to use the hammer that works a bit easier.. You hold the wooden part, and hit the nails with the round metal part.. It's a lot easier on the wrist and arm that way.. She blushed, and said 'Oh Silly Me.'.. "No, not silly dear gorgeous princess, it's just now you know the two ways to use a hammer.".. And I did it all with a straight poker face with that laughter-bomb really wanting to detonate.. Twern't easy... I sold her a refurbished garage-sale lawn-mower for 25-bucks.. After using it twice she wanted a refund because it wouldn't work anymore.. 'Where's your gas can?'.. "Oh, does it use gas? Where do you put the gas in?".. I held tight to my poker face skilfully quite well, as I do so get lots of practise... I had to twice look at my feet to be sure I'm still on planet earth... This Tools-Basics Class is absolutely necessary if humanity is to survive itself... The dear ginger-princess got a new job, working in a native friendship centre.. She proudly informed me, "I'm gonna be a Politician." 'Errrrr YuP!..' I've changed my mind ,I'm going to advise @whiteboyal to study medicine so he can help with your verbal diarrhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 25 minutes ago, DonaldJ Nephilim said: I take it you're upset about my truth about: 'coke turning people into mindless soulless hateful zombies', and my truth that 'coke is essentially anunnaki and zombie candy', and my truth about the fact that 'coke should be extincted because it is the reason for the big mess in humanity'... Is that why your sudden outburst of hate and anger sir..? You can take it anyway you want ,but believe me I'm certainly not upset if I was you would know it @whiteboyal asked for advice ,basically I said it should be his choice, maybe you should start a thread yourself entitled anunnaki and zombie candy "Is that why your sudden outburst of hate and anger sir..?" ,give me a break, have you ever thought of a political career,I think you probably already have one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/3/2023 at 6:59 AM, whiteboyal said: Money, success and passion not being a concern, will studying a 4 year long bachelor degree program (and later on master's or PhD) called physics and philosophy or just physics at a well ranked university lead me to success in finding more evidence of what David Icke says in his books, in which I can become a leading expert in and also have an influence on what is really happening in the world? I only read a few of David's books so far but its clear he uses non-mainstream info or scientists and their studies/research as evidence for certain things he can prove as evidence. From what I noticed a lot of studies and scientists in his books are within the field of physics or similar and provide some of the info David Icke uses. If I pursue heavily studying physics or some other related program and become an expert in the field will I be able to potentially contribute to the kind of research and info David Icke uses and help prove how the nature of reality works in relation to consciousness? I know this is a general and difficult question to answer but appreciate any insights or advice. Perhaps physics is not a good way to describe something meaningfully. Not yet. Let's say something has amazing possibilities to create a special domain. And what science does is study fragments with current possibilities. I am nobody, but I know that nothing of significance has happened in last 170 human years. The predecessors in today's India knew basically current answers. Concerning especially illusions. And what will be discovered has not been and will not be decided by humans. And no one can really tell you what to do for your own personal journey. Just do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 On 3/11/2023 at 12:02 PM, whiteboyal said: yeah i heard about that, so are you saying universities teach some of the wrong info? not just some,lots 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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