The criminal element hates a one world governance; that makes me for it. What do you think?

[Gnostic Christian]

5 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

If you want to line up like the Circumcellions did then be my guest, personally i have more important things to do like protecting the good and living my life.

 

Quote from article, aka, the suicide squad.

'On occasion, members of this group assaulted Roman legionaries or armed travelers with simple wooden clubs to provoke them into attacking and martyring them.'

Now you resort to bot like gibberish.

 

Go away. 

 

Regards

DL

[sock muppet]

6 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I liked some of your word above, but now you are sounding stupid.

 

"most awful?

 

I'm not sure how much comprehension you have about convid, but when you finally do get the full picture you will feel quite sick at what was supposed to have been enacted.

 

6 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

You aint seen nothing yet, --- if this world does not unite to take on climate catastrophes.

 

Try this for size, and then please do contribute to the real climate discussion, so we can see how bright you are,

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24007-100000-year-milankovitch-cycle-peaking-2024is-this-the-reason-why-they-are-locking-down-the-human-race/

 

Edited March 5 by sock muppet

[sock muppet]

4 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Go away

 

Your wish is granted, don't be a stranger to the real climate discussion though, your contribution is most welcomed,

[Campion]

22 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Mind you, it will allow the bank to pay us better dividends over time,

 

Hmmm ... you're quite optimistic about the banks, I'm more sceptical whether they would share any extra profit with us. With a global govt, there'd be global rules & taxes for the banks too, so they couldn't shop around for the most favourable jurisdiction any more than criminals. 

 

22 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I don't know what type of sovereignty you want, but taking a criminals hands off our wallets, ---- seems as a good thing for all of our sovereignties.

Right?

 

I don't want anyone to be a victim of crime, but I'm weighing up the pros and cons. Would a global govt give us better security and policing than international cooperation such as interpol? Even if it did, on the other side of the scale there's the extra tax to pay for this new world govt, extra corruption, loss of local culture and democracy because laws are uniform everywhere. Actually it's a big compromise to even have national govts, which prevent more local preferences, but we've got to compromise somewhere. I just think continental govts like the EU are going too far, let alone global govt. 

Edited March 6 by Campion

[EnigmaticWorld]

Nationalism and self-determination is better for social cohesion. Let each tribe rule themselves. World government is a dangerous idea. The criminal perverts that would run it would still be okay with their own criminality. Just look at hate speech laws, do they apply them to their own clique? No, that crap is just for the golems.

[Gnostic Christian]

26 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Hmmm ... you're quite optimistic about the banks, I'm more sceptical whether they would share any extra profit with us. With a global govt, there'd be global rules & taxes for the banks too, so they couldn't shop around for the most favourable jurisdiction any more than criminals. 

 

 

I don't want anyone to be a victim of crime, but I'm weighing up the pros and cons. Would a global govt give us better security and policing than international cooperation such as interpol? Even if it did, on the other side of the scale there's the extra tax to pay for this new world govt, extra corruption, loss of local culture and democracy because laws are uniform everywhere. Actually it's a big compromise to even have national govts, which prevent more local preferences, but we've got to compromise somewhere. I just think continental govts like the EU are going too far, let alone global govt. 

You give our banks way too much power.

 

A world bank does not care about local politics as it answers to all it's government masters equally.

 

As to paying anyone more, the vast majority get a huge raise in pays so shut up and take the criminal pocket out of your pocket.

 

Europe is doing the intelligent and moral thing. 

 

Your "so they couldn't shop around for the most favourable jurisdiction any more than criminals. " ----------

The most favorable jurisdictions system will likely be the one the world leaders elect for their bank.

 

It would be silly to not follow the best systems our collective intelligence can produce.

 

Regards

DL

 

 

[Gnostic Christian]

35 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 1 Nationalism and self-determination is better for social cohesion. Let each tribe rule themselves.

 

2 World government is a dangerous idea. The criminal perverts that would run it would still be okay with their own criminality.

 

3 Just look at hate speech laws, do they apply them to their own clique? No, that crap is just for the golems.

I agree with your first.

2 -- A one world governance, thanks to economy of scale, reduces the dangers, and especially the costs, of what you speak of by quite a bit. If criminals do pop up in the world government, we will have every nation there to see it.

 

Regardless, the bank wants your wealth and do not really care where you got it.

 

That is between the criminals who have their hands in our collective wallets.

 

3- All governments are guilty of not having a lower threshold for lies that they allow to be told and spread.

 

We allow demonstrable fraud by religious and political charlatans and con men, without either being given the right to sue, or a political legal arm to bring liars to heel.

 

Free speech means free to lie without retribution.

 

Go for true speech, which is what a world bank has to give because they cannot hide the numbers produced by all the world. Security of the masses and their wealth is guaranteed by the people you elect.

 

I only vote for winning propositions. A one world bank is a win win for all except thieves and liars.

 

Regards

DL 

 

Edited March 6 by Gnostic Christian

[Campion]

5 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

A world bank does not care about local politics as it answers to all it's government masters equally.

 

All the more reason to have a choice of banks that do care about local people, instead of a global bank that's answerable to only one world govt. 

 

11 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

The most favorable jurisdictions system will likely be the one the world leaders elect for their bank.

 

It would be silly to not follow the best systems our collective intelligence can produce.

 

Favourable for the banks or for us? I don't see how us ordinary folk can hope for a world gov that benefits us, it's already hard enough with the system we've got now. 

[Campion]

17 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I only vote for winning propositions. A one world bank is a win win for all except thieves and liars.

 

I'm not sure what you mean. One single bank with a monopoly over the whole world? Or multiple world banks which (in theory) compete? We already have banks that span many countries like HSBC. If you want a global bank, go ahead and choose one. Leave the smaller banks and building societies to others that want them. What's wrong with giving customers the freedom of choice? 

[Gnostic Christian]

53 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

All the more reason to have a choice of banks that do care about local people, instead of a global bank that's answerable to only one world govt. 

 

 

Favourable for the banks or for us? I don't see how us ordinary folk can hope for a world gov that benefits us, it's already hard enough with the system we've got now. 

I think all of us getting a 30% raise should be incentive enough, bank wise, with local representation.

 

If getting a criminals hand out of your wallet with a system governed by your own government, what can I say?

 

Enjoy getting screwed.

 

Regards

DL

[Gnostic Christian]

37 minutes ago, Campion said:

I'm not sure what you mean. One single bank with a monopoly over the whole world?

A monopoly run by whom, if not those who control the bank you presently use?

 

38 minutes ago, Campion said:

(in theory) compete?

I have personally done price fixing for big business, when those cases were being won by businesses doing price fixing. We criminals, past tense for myself,  --- as usual, --- were laughing at the honest.

 

Theories are often wrong.

43 minutes ago, Campion said:

freedom of choice? 

Lol.

 

Do you not see or feel all the strings on you?

 

Regads

DL

[Campion]

16 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I think all of us getting a 30% raise should be incentive enough, bank wise, with local representation.

If getting a criminals hand out of your wallet with a system governed by your own government, what can I say?

Enjoy getting screwed.

Regards

DL

 

We might be getting our wires crossed GC, which criminals do you mean? Is it the bankers themselves who are the criminals, or is it that global banks can make it harder for gangsters doing their money laundering? Or maybe you mean both. Not sure how you get to 30% pay rise either. 

 

16 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

A monopoly run by whom, if not those who control the bank you presently use?

 

Yes, a monopoly being one bank controlled by the central world gov. 

 

16 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I have personally done price fixing for big business, when those cases were being won by businesses doing price fixing. We criminals, past tense for myself,  --- as usual, --- were laughing at the honest.

Theories are often wrong.

 

Good on you for reforming. I also think most advertising is hoodwinking us too, and especially brand names are a form of overpricing. 

"In theory" I was being sarcastic, the free market capitalism is largely a myth with large global corporations. 

 

16 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Do you not see or feel all the strings on you?

 

Yes, that's why I'm here (& elsewhere) doing research and learning about the strings so I can cut them. Also practicing things like mindfulness and meditation to be more aware of my own mind. It's a learning process. 

[Campion]

18 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

Nationalism and self-determination is better for social cohesion. Let each tribe rule themselves. World government is a dangerous idea. The criminal perverts that would run it would still be okay with their own criminality. Just look at hate speech laws, do they apply them to their own clique? No, that crap is just for the golems.

 

Yes very true. Social cohesion is the excuse for all of the woke agenda ... First they destroy the cohesion we used to have with mass immigration and persuade everyone to have competing identities and communities. Then they bring in all this stuff about hate speech, diversity quotas, antifa, white privilege, BLM, inclusivity etc etc to supposedly glue society back together again.  And when it doesn't work, it's the fault of the gollums again. 

 

All this stuff in the news today about ending the channel boat people will be cancelled out by increasing legal routes for them to come in. 

Edited March 7 by Campion

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

19 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

I agree with your first.

2 -- A one world governance, thanks to economy of scale, reduces the dangers, and especially the costs, of what you speak of by quite a bit. If criminals do pop up in the world government, we will have every nation there to see it.

 

 

This assumes that we'll be able to see their corruption and that surveilance will be aimed at those in charge instead of the public. Pattern recognition is associated with the general intelligence factor too, and elites are targeting higher IQ populations before they bring in world gov.

 

And lets assume that certain groups wouldn't be overrepresented in this world government, and that all tribes would have their say. Well, I don't want that either. I don't want other tribes with different values imposing their values on my tribe, and I don't want my tribe imposing our values on them. All groups have in group bias so it's dangerous, and I can't see people singing Kumbaya together unless they're totally uprooted from their cultures and share the same values, or mind controlled with some kind of brain chip or drugs, and that would be immoral.

 

19 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Free speech means free to lie without retribution.

 

I'm not a free speech absolutist. I don't want hostile subversives whispering in the ears of women and children, and poisoning the minds of my people. I understand that people will have different views on what is poison though. I think a lot of westerners would agree that our press is a problem though, and that we should probably have our own press machine and entertainment industry that doesn't despise our existence.

Edited March 7 by EnigmaticWorld

[Macnamara]

On 3/1/2023 at 9:15 PM, Gnostic Christian said:

The criminal element hates a one world governance; that makes me for it.  What do you think?

 

no the criminal element who are behind the central banks are FOR world governance as they want central control over everyone and everything

[Gnostic Christian]

4 hours ago, Campion said:

 

We might be getting our wires crossed GC, which criminals do you mean? Is it the bankers themselves who are the criminals, or is it that global banks can make it harder for gangsters doing their money laundering? Or maybe you mean both. Not sure how you get to 30% pay rise either. 

 

 

Yes, a monopoly being one bank controlled by the central world gov. 

 

 

Good on you for reforming. I also think most advertising is hoodwinking us too, and especially brand names are a form of overpricing. 

"In theory" I was being sarcastic, the free market capitalism is largely a myth with large global corporations. 

 

 

Yes, that's why I'm here (& elsewhere) doing research and learning about the strings so I can cut them. Also practicing things like mindfulness and meditation to be more aware of my own mind. It's a learning process. 

More of a seeking process, but kudos for showing you seek Gnosis.

 

Think dualistically and it becomes easier to open your single eye. Give your non-physical esense your form, given that you should be calling your God I am, and mean yourself.

 

Criminals that I have in mind when thinking of economies, are the ones who get away with tax fraud etc., while the rest of us suckers, who pay their tax share, ignore the huge amount of damage that causes to the honest tax payer. Especially young parents.

 

Regards

DL

[Gnostic Christian]

4 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Yes very true. Social cohesion is the excuse for all of the woke agenda ... First they destroy the cohesion we used to have with mass immigration and persuade everyone to have competing identities and communities. Then they bring in all this stuff about hate speech, diversity quotas, antifa, white privilege, BLM, inclusivity etc etc to supposedly glue society back together again.  And when it doesn't work, it's the fault of the gollums again. 

 

All this stuff in the news today about ending the channel boat people will be cancelled out by increasing legal routes for them to come in. 

Sometimes your on, and I see that sometimes you get off, immoral and not too bright.

 

Get the definition of woke and show what is wrong with the policy it advocates.

 

Which woke issue particularly offends you, or is your deflective rant all you have?

 

Give an argument one can speak to and not just your prejudices en mass.

 

Regards

DL

[Gnostic Christian]

2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

targeting higher IQ populations before they bring in world gov.

Of course.

 

Would you expect them to go to the less intelligent and be accused of all kinds of idiocies.

 

The high I Q rule so of coursed the more intelligent rulers and regimes have to be sought out first. They will be the ones to set the banks policy.

 

2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I don't want other tribes with different values imposing their values on my tribe,

Imposing?

 

You follow laws imposed on you all the time, so shut up, take your pay increase.

 

As to your censorship, it just shows that you are more insecure than most.

 

If you fear another value, it means that you know you are following some deficient one. 

 

Consider that last pure psychobabble. I believe it but could not prove it.

3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

despise our existence.

 

Art makes us think.

 

You seem to think all your betters inferior. Not surprising how you would like to inquisition ideas and people.

 

You are a really good Christian. You have everyone they do.

 

Regards

DL

[Gnostic Christian]

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

no the criminal element who are behind the central banks are FOR world governance as they want central control over everyone and everything

You must think your own government to be really incompetent and not protecting the wealth or people as much as you think.

 

A bank does not care about your list of concerns.

 

All it wants is your I D and numbers.

 

You and I are not that important to anyone, individually or as a class, as far as the bank is concerned.

 

It manipulates cash, not ideas.

 

Regards

DL

 

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said:

You must think your own government to be really incompetent and not protecting the wealth or people as much as you think.

 

 

no i don't think they are incompetent at all. I think they are completely captured and in the employ of the globalists behind the central banks

 

i think they are doing EXACTLY what they have been tasked to do and i think it is working very well. The conspirators must be very happy at the all the progress they are making

Edited March 7 by Macnamara

[EnigmaticWorld]

1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Of course.

 

Would you expect them to go to the less intelligent and be accused of all kinds of idiocies.

 

No, of course I wouldn't expect that. That would destroy their chances of having a globalized homogenous slave race if they didn't go for Europeans, South Koreans, and the Japanese first.

 

The powers that be are the real racists and supremacists because they believe that lower IQ people make better slaves. I might recognize people have differences in intelligence, but elites are evil because they see IQ differences and they see an opportunity to put their boot on peoples necks

 

1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:

You follow laws imposed on you all the time, so shut up, take your pay increase.

.

I don't think everything is about money.

 

1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:

As to your censorship, it just shows that you are more insecure than most.

 

What because I don't think people that want to destroy my people should be given free reign to subvert my country?

 

1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:

If you fear another value, it means that you know you are following some deficient one.

 

Bullshit. It means I know that not all cultures share the same values and that they're not going to agree on everything. How about you explain to me how you deal with stuff like this:

 

 

How would you get all tribes to agree on how this world government would be run?

 

1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Art makes us think.

 

Some of it yes, but much of it is being used as a weapon now.

 

1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said:

You seem to think all your betters inferior.

 

No I don't. I'm not the one trying to enslave people just because of their biological differences like I explained above, I'm calling them out.

Edited March 7 by EnigmaticWorld

[JCP]

On 3/4/2023 at 9:24 PM, sock muppet said:

And here is the elephant in the room, now you have already given us the usual suspects line up, and it has been corrupted by those who stole the power in the first place, to ensure the survival of their own species at the expense of everyone else on planet stupid, it is the Law itself that is at fault by willfully turning the blind eye to such matters to those that think they are above it because they are all on the payroll, nice bunch of fukin cunts are they not?

Once again, capitalism is a better way than bartering, which is the only true capitalistic method of exchange, but fuked if i'm to carry a bag of chickens around, to pay for a cup of tea and a cheese sandwich, how about you?

 

IMHO, capitalism was not stolen, but instead created by the criminals (government) to ensure their survival at the expense of everyone else and for the total control of the masses. Even the idea that capitalism could be stolen or manipulated in such a way, makes it an undesirable system. I do agree that Law is a contributing factor; but that is to be expected, since the criminals are ones who writes the laws.

 

We have been programmed to the idea that it is necessary to buy or trade in order to provide an equitable distribution of goods and services in order to obtain them. That is only true in capitalism and it certainly is not equitable. There are other proposed systems that require no method of exchange. A Resource Based Economy is a good example. I for one refuse to fight for a system that is intent on maintaining our slavery and perpetual wars, and continue to be open to other alternatives.

 

 

Capitalism creates Casino Nations ......................... It is the intentional cultivation of the criminal class

 

(Disclaimer - I do not agree with the end of this video claiming that voting will make the changes the world needs) 

[sock muppet]

14 minutes ago, JCP said:

IMHO, capitalism was not stolen, but instead created by the criminals (government) to ensure their survival at the expense of everyone else and for the total control of the masses. Even the idea that capitalism could be stolen or manipulated in such a way, makes it an undesirable system. I do agree that Law is a contributing factor; but that is to be expected, since the criminals are ones who writes the laws.

 

Agree with what you wrote there, but what else is there as an accounting method, it is after all just mathematics, Andrew Jackson once wrote circa 250 years ago that he saw banks more dangerous than standing armies, and he was right.

 

14 minutes ago, JCP said:

I for one refuse to fight for a system that is intent on maintaining our slavery and perpetual wars, and continue to be open to other alternatives.

 

Me too, truth, freedom, God given rights and the rule of Law is all i will stand for, notice how every other 'system' wants rid of the Law to write it's own rules and apply a tax on a living soul for it all to work, get rid of the taxation of a living soul and get your stick smelly crooked fingers out of my pocket and out of my soul, it has nothing to do with anyone but me, and watch all the other 'alternatives' simply vanish off planet stupid so the Earth can prosper again, as it should be,

[JCP]

On 3/5/2023 at 2:32 PM, Gnostic Christian said:

Happy, a world bank cannot promise.

 

It can promise taking advantage away from the criminal element via a fair and open tax system.

 

That would make me quite happy, as the criminal element hates it.

 

Regards

DL

 

 

Yet that is exactly what the WEF does promise ............ "You will own nothing and be happy".

 

They will never remove the advantages of the criminal class since that is who they are. Criminals. They are not to be expected to shoot themselves in the foot.

[Campion]

3 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Sometimes your on, and I see that sometimes you get off, immoral and not too bright.

Get the definition of woke and show what is wrong with the policy it advocates.

Which woke issue particularly offends you, or is your deflective rant all you have? 

 

There's other threads about woke better placed to have this discussion but briefly, here's a definition from Wiki which is a generally progressive source so you don't accuse me of bias here too: 
"Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism, and has also been used as shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice, such as the notion of white privilege and slavery reparations for African Americans."

 

There's an indication here that the term originated as reasonably open-minded name for racial thought amongst the African-American community. But in the last decade or so it has been co-opted by left-wing activists (cultural appropriation perhaps?) to further their anti-white agenda. I have been in diversity meetings where white people are expected to acknowledge their privilege, without even having an opportunity to debate whether it exists. 

 

Another example of wokeness I came across recently was in the BBC's diversity recruitment plans:  

 

"The new plan will enable the BBC to meet the 50:20:12 workforce targets - announced in September 2020 - in the next three to five years. That’s 50 percent women; at least 20 percent black, Asian or minority ethnic; and at least 12 percent disabled employees." 

 

50% women is understandable, and 12% disabled is actually under-representing them,  but at least 20% BAME when there are 13% BAME in the UK population? This means they are deliberately intending to under-represent white people. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2021/bbc-plans-industry-gold-standard-workplace-diversity-inclusion