In what parallel universe did I read Carl Sagan books? - He was a matrix Agent.

[indigo solo]

This is a spiky topic, because Sagan is a very respected icon in the science culture. Anyway, following Icke's example, I'll tell what my heart says to me. David has quoted Sagan several times in his books, putting him as an example of clearly thought. I am amazed David never has detected what I'm going to expose here. If nobody support this idea, I will finally convinced we are speaking of different Carl Sagans, maybe from different universes, LoL.

 

I read "The demon Haunted world" about 25 years ago, and I was very impressed. Right, I was a teenager. Sagan became my favorite author and he was for almost a decade. Soon after I read "Broca's Brain", "Dragons of Eden" and finally "Contact". I learnt much from his speech, elevating science to high values. Many years later, I myself experienced phenomena that official science only would ridicule (I hope to tell you about that someday). It was my awakening. So, looking back to Sagan work, I realized he wanted to perpetuate the 5 sense - 3D (plus time) world, in which nothing else exist, and if considered, it would be pseduo-science.

 

I'll put together here as many Sagan's speech parts as I remember right now. Unfortunately, this forum doesn't allow edit the posts, so, If i remember more details, I''l write them in the comments section.

 

• The dragon in the garage. Sagan compared the thinking out of science with a parable assembled by himself. A friend invited Sagan to his garage to see his dragon. Once there, Sagan saw, heard, nor touched anything. So asked the friend to put a piece of paper for the invisible dragon to burn it. And the friend said: The fire of my dragon doesn't burn. So Sagan concluded "What is the difference between an invisible dragon that can't be touched and whose roar can't be listened and whose fire doesn't burn; with a dragon that doesn't exist? Very impressive parable for someone who never-ever have experienced nothing beyond this material realm.
• Sagan tells in one of his books how he spoke to his son about the death. He told him that someday he would be gone and absolutely nothing would remain to be remembered and there was not place he could have gone. Pretty harsh, eh? Live would be for him only the body and its time of expiration.
• "Peritanatic Epiphanies" would explain NDEs. If you see a tunnel, is because in middle of the trauma you remember your own birth. Birth is a traumatic experience. When you have a new trauma, your brain invokes that memory. So the tunnel would be your mom's vagina from inside. Could be more materialistic?
• In the Broca's Brain, Sagan made a extraordinary effort to debunk each single ancient aliens narrative. If you read Broca's Brain and you're very young and mind-set, you'll become Mr. Smith.
• He used to explain all the beyond-this-realm-manifestations, with mere human misery. In other words, that human life is hard as hell (it really is) but specially, is boring. So we developed our great imagination to deal with it. That would explain the non-existent reports of grey aliens in middle-ages. In that time, the unknown were not located in the outer space, but very closer, in the woods. So the myths were not about spaceships but about witches, trolls, gnomes and sorcery.
• He told the story of a psychiatrist patient who alleged about other planets and dimension being he was purportedly in contact with. And he turned out to be a so skilled story teller that the psychiatrist ended believing him every single word a wrote books about his patient stories. He finally was ridiculed when the patient himself went out to light to state everything was an invention. This is a very smart attempt to teach fear to ridicule if you speak about anything beyond this 1x1x1 world. Maybe if you consult a little can find the complete story with names included.
• He politely and covertly ridiculed those who claimed that ancient civilizations were technologically superior to us, because of the great stones moved and so on. He said that simply, our ancestors weren't stupid, and we would be narcissists by thinking they were.
• He boarded the Crop Circles phenomena exclusively from the hoax point of view. Emphasized in a message written in one of them, that said: "We are not alone" (what means it was written by humans) and the story of the two pranksters who made the circles using sticks and ropes.
• Loch Ness monster narrative is boarded as well, only from the hoax POV. You intuit there the effort of the author to promote believing nothing more than in positivist science (positivist: with physical-mathematical evidence. So, exclusive for the 1x1x1 world). As in the crop circles story, a couple of pranksters show their faces and all the real story is covered with sand. How convenient, eh?
• About the native American ancient mythology, in which are several stories about white masters who showed them agriculture and astronomy, always cut the extraterrestrial possibility by mentioning pre-columbian European visitors. Dogon culture with their sirius B great story would be one example of this.
• He compiles in one of his books a great amount of stories about swindlers and charlatans, to teach audience how they could be easily cheated. Nowadays, we know the main swindler and deceiver is the state and its institutions (media, health system, education).
• He said Devon-shire beast was merely a Hyena.
• Vampires are porphyritic people.

 

And the list goes on a on.

 

I don't want to demonize Sagan. I still respect him. Just I've learnt to listen to my heart and I wanna to share this. The same has happened to me with Hollywood and music stars and new age authors, including Chopra. They are so immersed in this 1x1x1 world they even realize it. So, I just stop following them and... guess... only thing you have to follow is your hearth.

 

 

 

[indigo solo]

Sagan is an icon similar to Einstein, Newton, Pasteur, Freud and other else. Matrix agents.

[Origin]

49 minutes ago, indigo solo said:

This is a spiky topic, because Sagan is a very respected icon in the science culture. I will finally convinced we are speaking of different Carl Sagans, maybe from different universes, LoL.

 

Who? He never knew. The blind can't see..

[Grumpy Grapes]

I didn't trust Sagan either. 

 

 "In 1958, the two [including Sagan] worked on the classified military Project A119, the then-secret Air Force plan to detonate a nuclear warhead on the Moon.

Sagan had a Top Secret clearance at the U.S. Air Force and a Secret clearance with NASA."

 

Sagan was a co-founder of

The Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI), formerly known as the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP). 

 

He promoted man-made climate change caused by CO2. 

Edited February 21, 2023 by Grumpy Grapes

[indigo solo]

Fe de erratas: I Missed a single word and the whole idea. I mean: «If nobody support this idea, I will finally be convinced we are speaking of different Carl Sagans, maybe from different universes, LoL».

Sorry about that :p