RobinJ Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Hi All A friend of mine is building a new web site to help young people who are confused and just waking up connect with others so that they can chat about any topic without fear of ridicule etc. So I am curious, if you are newly 'awake' what were the trigger points for you? What made you start searching for other information which was not being spread through mainstream media and entertainment etc? I am wondering what the current reasons are. A couple of years ago it may well have been covid etc, but now we have had a long hiatus, what are the main reasons now? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark.colley Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 This is interesting as my belief is that you start to question what is happening in the world after a traumatic event in your life, mine happened a long time ago aged 17. Since then I've been down many rabbit holes. Never fear ridicule 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 14 hours ago, Mark.colley said: This is interesting as my belief is that you start to question what is happening in the world after a traumatic event in your life, mine happened a long time ago aged 17. Since then I've been down many rabbit holes. Never fear ridicule Ah yeah...ridicule just shows you that you are on the right track One if the big lessons I learned in life was to go my own way and not care what others think. Spent my whole life being told I am the black sheep of the family. Personally, I wear that as a badge of honour. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted February 23 Author Share Posted February 23 Sadly, for many people now, that traumatic event could well be a disabling disease or death of someone they know or are close to. For me it was very gradual not one single event, just lots of bits that didn't add up and started me researching different info, along with lots of small weird experiences re what I now know was spiritual stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 2/22/2023 at 1:52 AM, RobinJ said: Ah yeah...ridicule just shows you that you are on the right track Well I must be, especially when it comes to flat earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 9/11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 8 hours ago, Morpheus said: 9/11 so for you it was a single event which didnt make sense, and then it took you on a journey of discovery? Its interesting how some folks are kind of slapped awake while others just gradually come to that realisation. I wonder how many have hollywood stuff as their wake up zone, especially now with all the trans / gay stuff pushed in every program and movie. I feel sorry for the youth of today having to wade through all that bull crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Fractional Reserve Banking. For years my wife and I struggled to make our mortgage and loan repayments, even though we both had reasonably paid jobs. Asking for help from the Bank usually resulted in being 'advised' to take out yet another loan to pay off the current ones. This started to become a real nightmare for us until ... Doing some research on debt I came across the term Fractional Reserve Banking and everything that it entails. I quickly learned that the money we were trying so hard to pay back was simply CONJURED UP FROM THIN AIR by the Banks!!! Fucking unbelievable .... but nonetheless TRUE! So I stopped paying them. They pestered me for a while but that died off eventually. We now receive a very occasional letter from whichever company has now bought the 'debt' with an offer to payback much less than the original amount. I tear these letters up and bin them too! In nigh-on 30 years we have never been bothered by bailiffs or court orders and I will continue to refuse to pay the bastards another penny. Defiance against Compliance - that's my motto now. This was my 'awakening' and it has stood me in good stead ever since. In fact, it may even have saved our lives when the Convid fiasco began. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 15 hours ago, RobinJ said: so for you it was a single event which didnt make sense, and then it took you on a journey of discovery? Basically yes. I saw that event happen and for whatever reason, I just couldn't accept that it went down the way they said it did. Here I am today. Edited February 24 by Morpheus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 15 hours ago, webtrekker said: Fractional Reserve Banking. For years my wife and I struggled to make our mortgage and loan repayments, even though we both had reasonably paid jobs. Asking for help from the Bank usually resulted in being 'advised' to take out yet another loan to pay off the current ones. This started to become a real nightmare for us until ... Doing some research on debt I came across the term Fractional Reserve Banking and everything that it entails. I quickly learned that the money we were trying so hard to pay back was simply CONJURED UP FROM THIN AIR by the Banks!!! Fucking unbelievable .... but nonetheless TRUE! So I stopped paying them. They pestered me for a while but that died off eventually. We now receive a very occasional letter from whichever company has now bought the 'debt' with an offer to payback much less than the original amount. I tear these letters up and bin them too! In nigh-on 30 years we have never been bothered by bailiffs or court orders and I will continue to refuse to pay the bastards another penny. Defiance against Compliance - that's my motto now. This was my 'awakening' and it has stood me in good stead ever since. In fact, it may even have saved our lives when the Convid fiasco began. Fractional Reserve Banking is absolutely vile in every sense, the stress money (or lack of) causes the vast majority of people is astounding yet its backed by nothing, created from nothing and ultimately worth nothing. Yet here we are. Great motto! I may steal that :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 8 hours ago, TheConsultant said: Great motto! I may steal that :D It's yours for the taking! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark.colley Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 On 2/24/2023 at 12:50 AM, RobinJ said: so for you it was a single event which didnt make sense, and then it took you on a journey of discovery? Its interesting how some folks are kind of slapped awake while others just gradually come to that realisation. I wonder how many have hollywood stuff as their wake up zone, especially now with all the trans / gay stuff pushed in every program and movie. I feel sorry for the youth of today having to wade through all that bull crap. I'm old mine was at Hillsborough in 1989. Then I found a David Icke book in Waterstones 4 years later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 A trader in metals having their business meeting cancelled on a certain day when an attack on some buildings happened, and some redpills on insider trading. It's about the only thing that the ultra wealthy part of my family has ever been good for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 So the general consensus so far is that its single big events that happen which are the catalyst. For me, I don't remember it being a single event. I've had weird stuff happen all my life, but it was learning how to overcome all the past emotional trauma which gradually moved me along. Then when I was free of that baggage I started listening more to my intuition and acting on it, which then lead me down the spiritual awakening path. Many folks seem to consider physical freedom as the main goal, and I agree its important, however, mental and emotional freedom is really where it's at. When you are in control of those, great things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duewy Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Good question I do not have one event or trigger point that got me wondering but instead I have always seen the mismatch of my surroundings. Sitting in church and having to listen to a rude bully adult read a passage of scripture that pointed out that we must be good people.... or being shown the guidance and love of God's love with every stroke of the thick leather strap whenever I wished for clarification on a number of stories from the Bible that just never add up. One thing that still astounds me is no mater where the journey starts truth seakers almost always end up digging in the same area after a while 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 I really woke up when I discovered that the earth is not a spinning globe - I know this is a controversial subject, but my research has bought me so close to God than ever before. Sorry folks but you did ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 2/24/2023 at 1:05 AM, webtrekker said: Fractional Reserve Banking. For years my wife and I struggled to make our mortgage and loan repayments, even though we both had reasonably paid jobs. Asking for help from the Bank usually resulted in being 'advised' to take out yet another loan to pay off the current ones. This started to become a real nightmare for us until ... Doing some research on debt I came across the term Fractional Reserve Banking and everything that it entails. I quickly learned that the money we were trying so hard to pay back was simply CONJURED UP FROM THIN AIR by the Banks!!! Fucking unbelievable .... but nonetheless TRUE! So I stopped paying them. They pestered me for a while but that died off eventually. We now receive a very occasional letter from whichever company has now bought the 'debt' with an offer to payback much less than the original amount. I tear these letters up and bin them too! In nigh-on 30 years we have never been bothered by bailiffs or court orders and I will continue to refuse to pay the bastards another penny. Defiance against Compliance - that's my motto now. This was my 'awakening' and it has stood me in good stead ever since. In fact, it may even have saved our lives when the Convid fiasco began. Don't they put the debt as a charge on your property, making it near impossible to sell your house unless you pay the debt off ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 hours ago, alexa said: Don't they put the debt as a charge on your property, making it near impossible to sell your house unless you pay the debt off ? I think the council would have something to say if I sold my house! No, I don't own my house any more. I sold it 20 years ago and now live in a rented council semi. Best decision we ever made! We're south-facing, overlooking open fields and woodland, beautiful garden, 3 bedrooms, newly fitted kitchen and bathroom, new DPC, new roof, new insulation and decorated and carpeted throughout after the works were done. Yearly boiler and gas checks and any repairs always sorted in good time. All of which cost me nothing! My rent is £400 per month, of which we pay half due to being pensioners now. Same with council tax. Even if I had the money I'd never buy another house again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 2/23/2023 at 3:08 PM, alexa said: Well I must be, especially when it comes to flat earth People like you are pushing the flat earthers over the edge! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, webtrekker said: I think the council would have something to say if I sold my house! No, I don't own my house any more. I sold it 20 years ago and now live in a rented council semi. Best decision we ever made! We're south-facing, overlooking open fields and woodland, beautiful garden, 3 bedrooms, newly fitted kitchen and bathroom, new DPC, new roof, new insulation and decorated and carpeted throughout after the works were done. Yearly boiler and gas checks and any repairs always sorted in good time. All of which cost me nothing! My rent is £400 per month, of which we pay half due to being pensioners now. Same with council tax. Even if I had the money I'd never buy another house again. The same here, the only difference is, where I live is a bit like the wild west in some ways, for instance if you pay the rent two months running, armed police come round to see where you got that sort of money from legally! Seriously though, we have owned two houses in the past, owning neither made us particularly happy to be honest, and when my small business collapsed we sold up, paid off the Shylocks at Barclays and moved here to Brighton where we rented for a couple of years. We did up the long garden that was well overgrown, and then the owners who had been living in Holland came back, their family had grown too large for that house so they wanted to sell and buy bigger! The council then re-homed us to our estate we're on now, which was a lot rougher than it is these days, in the first year or so we were here there were five murders on the estate! drugs related mainly, except for one man who murdered his wife with a wooden mallet during a drunken row! At one time you couldn't get shopping or takeaways delivered, now half the estate's population seem to work for Deliveroo But if I'm honest, I love it here, being a local bus driver one of my routes was the number 1 bus= Whitehawk to Mile Oak and over the years I got to know lots of people from here, and mostly they are 'the salt of the earth' types! The biggest arseholes are some of the residents that have big houses up Dyke road, a few of them are dodgy 'door knocker' types who con people out of their antique stuff just paying a pittance! This type of criminal for anyone who's never heard of 'Knockers'! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Barin Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 The life i live abd comon sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyGodsAngel Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Alex Jones. Infowars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Arsehole parents. Arsehole teachers. From the start of my life it seemed that anyone with any power or control over me was not doing it with my best interests at heart. In primary school I sought out any books in my local library that gave “alternate” views on the world around me. Reading ufo books etc, quickly led to other avenues of exploration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanya888 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 How interesting, I have read it is usually a traumatic event in your life that leads you down a new path. This doesn't just apply to seeing the truth, but also how you behave, your brain re-wires. For me also, it was losing my father and being introduced to David Icke from my brother, I went wayyyy down the rabbit hole and probably wasn't really understanding or accepting everything I thought I knew was false. Then suddenly everything made sense and I haven't looked back since. Covid definitely cracked the lies wide open for many people, so in some ways I am grateful for 2020. I also started getting into Jordan Maxwell, occultism, symbolism which I found really interesting. This was 9 years ago. How funny that today Sam Smith performing Satanic rituals on stage garners more attention then it would have 10 years ago, not many people would see his performances as Satanic then as they do now. I have hope for our collective consciousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 From the folks I've spoken to and the replies here, it is very varied. Certainly covid was a big wake up call for many. On the subject of symbolism, Micheal Tsarion was one of the best I saw at explaining the things in plain sight. 10 years ago there was a lot less open satanic worship stuff, now its smashed in your face at every opportunity along with sexual debauchery in general. Jordan Peterson, hmm well I personally believe he is part of the cia crowd. The fact that he uses so much psychology to argue points makes me suspicious because a lot of what he says and does is manipulative. However, the interesting thing about those types is that even if its truth mixed with lies it still waking people up. So I wonder if that is intentional or accidental on the part of the controllers....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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