Michi713 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 My experiences with the occult, witchcraft, etc. are similar to these people, only I was blessed to have never joined any coven, group, or in person "teacher." That makes it harder to leave. Messing around with disembodied spirits eventually ends up in the death of someone close to you and/or yourself. Unless you fall in love with your supposed "powers" and are completely deluded, you will eventually come to the realization that it is a dead end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michi713 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 I know no one gives a shit and believe they are somehow immune to any negative effects. A beautiful, redheaded girl I worked with was was introduced to astrology at a young age by her mother. She practiced it her whole life. The first warning was when she unintentionally burned down her apartment and the others around her by leaving her candles burning while she was away. Then in 2021, still practicing astrology, she predicted "a leveling." That day her condo building in Miami collapsed with her in it. 98 killed. If you think this is not related you are mistaken. When you astral project, practice remote viewing, when you are taken to your destination, it is like being sucked up or carried swiftly. What do you think is moving you? It is not by your own power. When there is a "presence" felt around you, make no mistake it is a demon. And it would looove to latch onto you. If you practice divining do not do it for personal gain! You will be making a trade that you didn't agree to. Demons do not ask for permission. What do you think is happening to all these celebrities? Do you think you will fair better than them? "wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it" Matthew 7:13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Can I say.... Bill Gates is still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) And how about the three wise men who followed the star to find Jesus, were they astrologers? Maybe astrology depends on your motives too. Edited February 16 by Campion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 10 hours ago, DaleP said: Can I say.... Bill Gates is still alive. This thread isn't for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, Campion said: And how about the three wise men who followed the star to find Jesus, were they astrologers? Maybe astrology depends on your motives too. Watching the comet and astrology are two different things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 (edited) A non-believer thinks God is against astrology, necromancy, witchcraft because he is mean and wants to suppress our innate powers because after all we are all little rad gods. Go on with your bad self if that's your belief. The truth is it is harmful to us. That is why God forbids his people from doing it. I have been there, I did that and it is harmful. If you don't believe this go kick rocks back to the psychic thread where you belong. Edited February 16 by Michi713 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Michi713 said: Watching the comet and astrology are two different things. I vaguely remember a theory that the star of Bethlehem was really a comet, and that there was a comet at that time. If so, that would put a date on the nativity perhaps? And there's other date constraints eg the death of Herod to consider. But maybe that's for another thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Michi713 said: A non-believer thinks God is against astrology, necromancy, witchcraft because he is mean and wants to suppress our innate powers because after all we are all little rad gods. Go on with your bad self if that's your belief. The truth is it is harmful to us. That is why God forbids his people from doing it. I have been there, I did that and it is harmful. If you don't believe this go kick rocks back to the psychic thread where you belong. That's not a nice thing to say for a Jesus lover. Where is your love for everyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 8 hours ago, Campion said: And how about the three wise men who followed the star to find Jesus, were they astrologers? Maybe astrology depends on your motives too. on the astrotheology level some might say they represent the belt of orion....but i don't believe that is all there is to religious interpretation Edited February 16 by Macnamara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, DaleP said: That's not a nice thing to say for a Jesus lover. Where is your love for everyone? Are you crying out for help Dale? Or are you trying to create a spectacle for your friends? So you say remote viewing, etc. is not harmful because Bill Gates is alive. It's like me saying remote viewing etc. is harmful because I'm getting a puppy on Friday. It's a false argument. But you convinced Morpheus (Hi Morpheus) so I guess you won your argument. Congrats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 5 hours ago, Macnamara said: on the astrotheology level some might say they represent the belt of orion....but i don't believe that is all there is to religious interpretation Hi there Macnamara, I debunked that picture years ago in some thread but can't find it. I don't know why you would even pay attention to a writer who would say something like "innerstand." Anyway... Astrology is just another snare and astrotheology has no application whatsoever to the New or Old Testament: Is there mention of heavenly bodies in the Bible? Yes, in Job 9:9 for instance. But the constellations are not Gods, nor should one have faith in them anymore than in tea leaves or chicken guts. Putting one's faith in creation rather than the creator is a mistake. God also loves astrologers or he wouldn't have helped Daniel save them from being murdered by Nebuchadnezzar. Matthew 12:25 Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand God warned against pagan divination which astrology is part of. Therefore, the Bible cannot contain secret pagan divination when God, who the Bible is about, is against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 16 hours ago, Michi713 said: But the constellations are not Gods That's like saying the Earth is just a piece of stone sphere or flat otherwise. The Earth is alive, it is an entity in on itself.... goddess you could say. It doesn't necessarily have to have arms and legs. The Earth was created by the Creator and we and animals are made of the same minerals, water etc. It just that we come in different shapes. The Creator gave each and every one of us a talent(s). It is not ours but he gave us to use it for the good of it. A cook uses knife to create a beautiful meal so that people will enjoy it. I guess knife, to you is satanic because it is used in rituals to cut people into pieces. I think your view is quite closed and lopsided. The Creator will give more power to some of us when the time comes. Jesus did hands on healing. I guess that belongs to the field of occult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 @DaleP There you go DaleP! Making a coherent argument instead of some drive-by one liner. 2 hours ago, DaleP said: The Earth is alive, it is an entity in on itself.... goddess you could say. The earth is alive. Okay. The earth is a goddess. A pagan would say this and would worship it and the goddess of war, and good fortune, and doorways, and getting the mail on time...do you see how it can get out of hand? Whatever floats your boat. I was a pagan. Worshipped Demeter and Hecate especially. 2 hours ago, DaleP said: I guess knife, to you is satanic because it is used in rituals to cut people into pieces. That's just a retarded assumption about someone you never met. Hi. I'm Michelle. Nice to meet you. It seems we have differing views about witchcraft and the occult. Okay with me if you wish to continue your practices. Is it okay with you if I believe witchcraft and occult practices are dangerous? If so, I choose to voice that belief here in my very own thread where no one will pay attention anyway because they all do what you do. Why argue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Michi713 said: The earth is a goddess. A pagan would say this and would worship it and the goddess of war, and good fortune, and doorways, and getting the mail on time...do you see how it can get out of hand? I can see how you got out of hand with rough information or shall I say you took the info from a wrong person but hey it doesn't matter, does it? Quote Whatever floats your boat. I was a pagan. What!? 2 hours ago, Michi713 said: Okay with me if you wish to continue your practices. Is it okay with you if I believe witchcraft and occult practices are dangerous? Just for the record, I don't practise witchcraft. I know of the info but I am with the Creator.....you know the universe is made of frequency and all that. It is ok to 'think'....in your opinion? Because that's what I do. Think. Are you the person in the video you have posted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 21 hours ago, Michi713 said: Astrology is just another snare and astrotheology has no application whatsoever to the New or Old Testament: i don't think its all about astrotheology. I don't buy the idea that christianity is purely about that. I think these things work on multiple levels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 4 hours ago, DaleP said: What!? Are you on the sauce right now? Must be fun saucing it up in the pubs over there. 4 hours ago, DaleP said: Are you the person in the video you have posted? Yes. I am a hot Spaniard living in the UK. But I won't talk to you if you don't wear a top hat, a puffy pirate shirt with a vest over it, and an amulet around your neck. Or a man bun. Because if you don't you are not a real new age pagan. You are just a poser and I want the real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 4 hours ago, Macnamara said: i don't think its all about astrotheology. I don't buy the idea that christianity is purely about that. I think these things work on multiple levels Yes. Levels. Like the the tabernacle being made according to the pattern God gave Moses on the mountain. Patterned after the one in heaven. And the tabernacle being made according to the descent of Jesus from heaven, through space to earth and back again after he was risen. So heaven may be beyond space and everything in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 20 minutes ago, Michi713 said: Are you on the sauce right now? Must be fun saucing it up in the pubs over there. Yes. I am a hot Spaniard living in the UK. But I won't talk to you if you don't wear a top hat, a puffy pirate shirt with a vest over it, and an amulet around your neck. Or a man bun. Because if you don't you are not a real new age pagan. You are just a poser and I want the real thing. wtf!? I aint, definitely not new agey pagan. You need to ground yourself luv. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, Michi713 said: Yes. Levels. Like the the tabernacle being made according to the pattern God gave Moses on the mountain. Patterned after the one in heaven. And the tabernacle being made according to the descent of Jesus from heaven, through space to earth and back again after he was risen. So heaven may be beyond space and everything in it. How about right here? 'Heaven' is in another dimension so it doesn't not relate to time & space....right here, everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, DaleP said: How about right here? 'Heaven' is in another dimension so it doesn't not relate to time & space....right here, everywhere. Ok you're in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 Just kidding frequencies are new age gobbledygook. No building of character. Everyone is fine the way they are. Why not seek the kingdom of heaven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, Michi713 said: Ok you're in. No, I am not joining a cult or coven. I thought you are out of it and now a Christian. 9 minutes ago, Michi713 said: Just kidding frequencies are new age gobbledygook. No building of character. Everyone is fine the way they are. Why not seek the kingdom of heaven? It is not about the goal, it's about the journey we take that matters. This coven you were in must have really messed you up. Groups are all dodgy.....like masons, eastern star, cults, covens, scientology, JW..... police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, DaleP said: It is not about the goal, it's about the journey we take that matters. Got it. You're a personal trainer. If you believe you will succeed. Isn't it getting late over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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