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I think if humans were mature and loving then you just get rid of borders and folks just live where they like 

 

But the way we act today. I mean people with two different opinions can't even get along nowadays let alone multiple cultures . ..

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3 hours ago, Mr H said:

Survey today reported apparently Brits ok about immigration. Anyone get the survey?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/03/most-british-people-hold-positive-view-of-immigration-survey-reveals

 

Most British people hold positive view of immigration, survey reveals

Although Tories claim curbing net inflow of migrants is critical issue for voters, poll shows attitudes have evolved significantly

 

Hi, I had a quick look at it and wanted to check the methodology, eg where they did it, was there a breakdown of who replied to the poll etc, but don't have time today to find the details. Also to do some background research into the National Centre for Social Research. I'm sceptical because of the size of the claimed increase in "very positive" since the previous surveys. 

 

If the data is accurate it shows how far gone the natives are in our decline. I'm thinking that we shouldn't even call it immigration any more but colonisation. 

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8 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

Hi, I had a quick look at it and wanted to check the methodology, eg where they did it, was there a breakdown of who replied to the poll etc, but don't have time today to find the details. Also to do some background research into the National Centre for Social Research. I'm sceptical because of the size of the claimed increase in "very positive" since the previous surveys. 

 

If the data is accurate it shows how far gone the natives are in our decline. I'm thinking that we shouldn't even call it immigration any more but colonisation. 

 

Yep.

 

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4 hours ago, Mr H said:

Revisiting this topic ...

 

I think if humans were mature and loving then you just get rid of borders and folks just live where they like 

 

But the way we act today. I mean people with two different opinions can't even get along nowadays let alone multiple cultures . ..

  

I've actually heard socialists and hardcore liberals suggest borderless living, all of them westerners. But I'm inclined to think that we're hard wired in our DNA to thrive best in moderate sized communities and when too many of us get together we fragment, start competing and create new borders between neighbourhoods etc. This is how we evolved for the majority of our pre-history but since the advent of city-states and countries we need to club together in larger numbers for safety and trade, so we've expanded in size and complexity. 

 

Do borders exist in nature? Well we're a social species and need to live in communities; try doing a search on pictures of wolf pack territories and what happens is that the territories are roughly similar sizes and the wolves tend to respect the borders without creating empires. Of course we're a different species to wolves but I think we should take anthropological knowledge into account for our politics. 

 

www.reddit.com   Satellite mapping of 6 different wolf packs in Voyageurs national park. 

 

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43 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Yep.

 

 

 

"Leftists admit mass immigration is equivalent to colonisation. They see it as payback for Britain’s history…" 

 

Even by their own flaky logic how would they explain that some ex-imperial countries are more colonised than others? Some like the Turks are still proud of their past and others like ours are ashamed, so there must be cultural differences in how people get educated about these issues. 

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1 hour ago, Campion said:

  

I've actually heard socialists and hardcore liberals suggest borderless living, all of them westerners. But I'm inclined to think that we're hard wired in our DNA to thrive best in moderate sized communities and when too many of us get together we fragment, start competing and create new borders between neighbourhoods etc. This is how we evolved for the majority of our pre-history but since the advent of city-states and countries we need to club together in larger numbers for safety and trade, so we've expanded in size and complexity. 

 

Do borders exist in nature? Well we're a social species and need to live in communities; try doing a search on pictures of wolf pack territories and what happens is that the territories are roughly similar sizes and the wolves tend to respect the borders without creating empires. Of course we're a different species to wolves but I think we should take anthropological knowledge into account for our politics. 

 

www.reddit.com   Satellite mapping of 6 different wolf packs in Voyageurs national park. 

 

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Yes excellent points. And I think as long as we all consider ourselves to be humans that is the case.

 

As you probably can tell, I don't experience or consider us to be humans. The belief in being human just an evolutionary step towards realization. Until this realization I think we're better of living with folks similar to us by the looks of how the world is.

 

But if experience genuinely realised that there are no separate things, and we all share the same being, no one would harm another and everyone would be in collaboration. But until this is generally recognised then we revert back to seeming "human nature" animal packs, competition which leads to fighting and manipulation etc.

 

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6 hours ago, Campion said:

  I've actually heard socialists and hardcore liberals suggest borderless living, all of them westerners. But I'm inclined to think that we're hard wired in our DNA to thrive best in moderate sized communities and when too many of us get together we fragment, start competing and create new borders between neighbourhoods etc.

 

from the perspective of the conspiracy you can ask about many of these issues: do you believe the elites are doing it because they have good intentions or bad ones?

 

do i believe that the rothschilds and their cabal support mass immigration because they care about the british people? No i do not. I believe the opposite: that they hate us and do what they do because they KNOW it will harm us. They push MASS immigration on us precisely because they KNOW it will fuck everything up for us. The white liberals who go along with it are useful idiots under a sabbatean-gaze where they actually despise themselves; they are engaging in a form of self-flaggelation which they believe they should do because they have distorted and simplified narratives of history

 

6 hours ago, Campion said:

Do borders exist in nature?

 

Many borders are actually geographic for example we live in an island, france and spain are separated by the pyrannes, england and scotland roughly by the tweed river etc etc

 

those geographic barriers create differing climatic conditions which in turn lead to different cultures, diets, architectures, dress, customs, values etc. For example in the scottish highlands it was always part of the culture to offer hospitality to anyone who came to your door because it was a harsh environment and to turn someone away could prove fatal to them. This is why the glencoe massacre is so notorious because in the dead of winter the mcdonalds offered hospitality to the campbell led government forces who then turned on them

 

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18 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

What does "western" have to do with anything? Outlets like RT also race bait and spew Marxian shit. Even China pushed BLM abroad, but not at home.

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yeah the irish watch the iranian news at 10 every night

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On 11/26/2023 at 9:17 AM, bamboozooka said:

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yeah the irish watch the iranian news at 10 every night

 

I wasn't just talking about Iran, bam, and not everyone watches TV every night these days. The alternative media are mostly Eurasianist, and Iran is just one nation in that bloc. Are you telling me that the Irish don't follow any alternative media?

 

What's the deal with nationalist parties in Ireland being run by Marxoids? 

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French Government Warns That Algerians Murder of French Boy Could Be ‘Tipping Point for French Society’

November 29, 2023 6:14 am by CWR

A16-year-old boy was savagely murdered at a French village’s annual winter ball earlier this month. According to witnesses, the gang of young men responsible for the boy’s death and the corresponding rampage on Nov. 18 made clear they were out to “stab white people.”

In the days since, tensions in the European nation have begun to boil over, prompting the French regime to clamp down on so-called “far-right” groups and to urge citizens not to take the law into their own hands.

Olivier Véran, a socialist spokesman for the French government, stressed Tuesday, “We are lucid. There is a violent minority, which sows terror. But there is no justification for taking the law into your own hands. It is up to the rule of law to provide answers.”

On their way in, the group of thugs stabbed a guard, slicing through his fingers.

According to France24, the attackers ultimately murdered a 16-year-old high school student named Thomas. A witness named Hugo indicated that Thomas was stabbed in the heart and throat.

One of Thomas’ friends told Le Dauphiné Libéré newspaper that he heard a commotion outside where Thomas, a beloved rugby player who wasn’t “the type to dance,” had gone out for a smoke. Thomas’ friend quickly went outside to investigate.

“I was stabbed in the shoulder and in the back,” said the unnamed teen. “I saw my friend Thomas being stabbed. … I saw another friend of mine get stuck in the back, I compressed his wound to make a tourniquet; he was hit in the kidney. It was horrific.”

The teen recalled the attackers saying, “‘We’re here to stab white people.'”

https://citizenwatchreport.com/french-government-warns-that-algerians-murder-of-french-boy-could-be-tipping-point-for-french-society/

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West Belfast: Anti-immigration signage a 'hate incident'

29th November 2023, 17:31 GMT
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Anti-immigration signage erected in west Belfast is being treated as a hate incident, police have said.

A sign, which appeared in the Tildarg Avenue area, said that the community "will no longer accept the re-housing of illegal immigrants".

The poster also used an offensive term while referring to "other communities".

Graffiti reading "Irish lives matter" was also daubed on the wall of the Kennedy Centre on the Falls Road overnight.

People Before Profit's Gerry Carroll said there was "no place in our society for this kind of racist poison".

"We are under no illusions that 'Irish Lives Matter' is a racist slogan which is directly counterpoised to movements against the oppression faced by black people and other ethnic minorities," he said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67566360?at_link_id=CDFB5192-8EB0-11EE-8C49-8D58AAF30DC0&at_link_type=web_link&at_link_origin=BBCNewsNI&at_format=link&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_medium=social

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8 of 9 Immigrants Who Gang R*ped 15-Year-Old at the Park Walk Free

November 30, 2023 8:12 am by CWR

Eight gang rapists have been set free to walk the streets of Germany despite being convicted of a heinous and violent rape of a 15-year-old girl, with the case drawing outrage in a country known for its lax policy towards migrant rapists. The Hamburg regional juvenile court gave its guilty verdict Tuesday; however, only one convicted rapist, an Iranian migrant, was sentenced to two years and nine months in juvenile detention despite DNA evidence being found on the victim from all nine men.

The case dates back to 2020, when the crowd robbed a drunk female student in Hamburg city park, raped her repeatedly, and then filmed the whole incident.

All the defendants, who are between 19 and 23, received suspended sentences, except for the one Iranian, which means none of the others will serve any jail time. Media reports indicate that eight of the nine rapists had migration backgrounds, with the convicted rapists coming from Poland, Egypt, Kuwait, Iran, Armenia, and Afghanistan.

https://citizenwatchreport.com/8-of-9-immigrants-who-gang-raped-15-year-old-at-the-park-walk-free/

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Migrant crisis has US taxpayers on the hook for up to $451B, House GOP report says

By Social Links for Josh Christenson
Published Nov. 13, 2023, 9:00 a.m. ET

Americans could pay up to $451 billion to care for migrants who entered the US illegally, but have been released into the country or escaped from custody, according to a new report due out Monday from House Republicans and obtained exclusively by The Post.

“Every day, millions of American taxpayer dollars are spent on costs directly associated with illegal immigration and the unprecedented crisis at the Southwest border sparked by Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas’ policies,” the House Homeland Security Committee interim staff report states.

“Only a small fraction is ever recouped from the taxes paid by illegal aliens, with the rest falling on the shoulders of American citizens and lawful residents,” it adds.

Compiled from federal and state records, media reports and other public information, the 50-page document outlines the taxpayer costs incurred in medical care, housing, education and other welfare benefits for tens of millions of migrants — to say nothing of the additional costs for law enforcement.

“This report reveals in painstaking detail the dollar costs facing the American people every day that this chaos continues, both in small towns on the border and in big cities like New York,” Homeland Security Committee Chairman Mark Green (R-Tenn.) told The Post.

https://nypost.com/2023/11/13/news/house-gop-report-cites-historic-451-billion-cost-of-migrant-crisis/

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