The OC Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Victims of Communism | Keep the flame of liberty alive Divide & Rule Under a totalitarian system there will be no voting rights. So what is the Chinese Social Credit System? A total surveillance (AI) grid, that forcibly re-educates a society to conform to "correct behavior" which a group of despots and criminal tyrants deem to be acceptable. In Cambodia, Pran has become a forced labourer under the Khmer Rouge's "Year Zero" policy, a return to the agrarian ways of the past. Pran is also forced to attend propagandist classes where many undergo re-education. As intellectuals are made to disappear, Pran feigns simple-mindedness. Eventually, he tries to escape, but is recaptured. Before he is found by members of the Khmer Rouge, he stumbles upon one of the infamous killing fields of the Pol Pot regime, where as many as 2 million Cambodian citizens were murdered. The Killing Fields (film) - Wikipedia Watch how communist re-education camps divide and separate families and friends. The State comes first! (1:30:00) The Killing Fields, historical drama, 1984 (bitchute.com) (full movie) Watch the video to see how an average Chinese citizen with a low social credit score is affected. Behavior leading to a deduction in credit will include: jaywalking bad driving smoking on trains playing too many video games buying too much junk food buying too much alcohol calling a friend who has a low credit score merely having a friend online who has a low credit score hosting fake news online criticizing the government visiting unauthorized websites walking a dog without a leash letting your dog bark too much Social Engineering Social Credit: China's Digital Dystopia In The Making (odysee.com) A Journeyman Pictures Documentary The vaccine and the Communist Social Credit System are directly linked. Apparently in Greece children whose parents choose not to be vaccinated are being threatened to be left behind in school, despite having good grades. And homeschooling is not an option because it's illegal in the country. Is it illegal to homeschool in Greece? Homeschooling is only explicitly allowed in Greek law in the case of children with special needs. The law states that in exceptional cases, education can occur in the home with direct supervision and materials from the school (Article 32, Section 4). Oct 9, 2019 homeschooling in greece - Google Search Mother loses child custody due to homeschooling as public education is mandatory in Greece ☭ Beware the world to come! ☭ The Killing Fields re-education camp Social Engineering: Communism separates families 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 13 hours ago, The OC said: Divide & Rule Social Engineering: Communism separates families So does Christianity, stemming from Roman Catholicism. 'I have come to set the son against the father' And the misogynistic attitude of the church towards women for the last 2000 years. Communism is a relatively new comer to that game. The Essenes were a communists sect and as James the Just, the leader of the Essenes, was Jesus' brother, its obvious Jesus' teachings would be influenced by it. In its philosophy, there's nothing wrong with the ideal, it just seems to be the execution of it that goes horribly wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 23 hours ago, pi3141 said: Communism is a relatively new comer to that game. The Essenes were a communists sect and as James the Just, the leader of the Essenes, was Jesus' brother, its obvious Jesus' teachings would be influenced by it. Interesting idea. Although if Essene-ism was communist then communism isn't so new. And there's the possibility that the communistic ideas predate the Essenes, if they learned them from elsewhere. I'm reading a book at the moment called 'A search for the historical Jesus' by Prof Fida Hassnain, which goes into the theories about Jesus (and Joseph) being an Essene initiate, along with John the Baptist, plus Jesus's travels further East into India. Stating that he studied Buddhism, which has a version of communism with its monasteries. I don't believe it all, but it has some good material which is adding to my theories about Jesus and his early movement. Edited February 9 by Campion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, Campion said: Interesting idea. Although if Essene-ism was communist then communism isn't so new. And there's the possibility that the communistic ideas predate the Essenes, if they learned them from elsewhere. I'm reading a book at the moment called 'A search for the historical Jesus' by Prof Fida Hassnain, which goes into the theories about Jesus (and Joseph) being an Essene initiate, along with John the Baptist, plus Jesus's travels further East into India. Stating that he studied Buddhism, which has a version of communism with its monasteries. I don't believe it all, but it has some good material which is adding to my theories about Jesus and his early movement. According to Rev Taylor in his Diegesis, Eusebius calls the Essenes or Theraputae - Apostoloci as mentioned in the Apocryphal scriptures. In John xvii 16 Christ himself says of his apostles 'they are not of this world, even as I am not of the world' which is supposed to be a cryptic confirmation that he was of that sect of monks - Theraputae or otherwise known as Essenes called Apostoloci in scripture. The Essenes largely dwelt in Egypt, and Taylor States 'Everything that is Christian is of Egyptian origin' which includes the Essenes system. According to Eusebius - 'those ancient Theraputae were Christians, and that their ancient writings were our gospels and Epistles' taken from his history book, from which the Chapter is titled 'The Religion published by Jesus Christ to all Nations is neither new or strange' There is a record of a great teacher studying with Buddhists and taking their knowledge back East with him. Edited February 10 by pi3141 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/8/2023 at 10:30 PM, pi3141 said: So does Christianity, stemming from Roman Catholicism. 'I have come to set the son against the father' And the misogynistic attitude of the church towards women for the last 2000 years. Communism is a relatively new comer to that game. The Essenes were a communists sect and as James the Just, the leader of the Essenes, was Jesus' brother, its obvious Jesus' teachings would be influenced by it. In its philosophy, there's nothing wrong with the ideal, it just seems to be the execution of it that goes horribly wrong. I know the Jesus was a commie thing is a common take on Reddit, but how does it fit with the whole Marx wanting to place his throne above God and trample on God's kingdom aspect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 42 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I know the Jesus was a commie thing is a common take on Reddit, but how does it fit with the whole Marx wanting to place his throne above God and trample on God's kingdom aspect? I don't understand your question? Marx wrote the Communist manifesto didn't he? As I understand it, Marx was anti-religion so if he made that remark it doesn't surprise me. Given that modern Communism is largely Atheist is seems likely they would attack religions. The fraudulent Protocols of Zion came out of Russia. Again, probably because they viewed religion with suspicion and largely rejected it, so to make a case against religion, given the Communist propensity toward propaganda, is not surprising, and hence the appearance of that document, shown to be entirely copied from an 18th Century French novel fits their modus operandi. That Jesus was a communist is not proved, just implied by his teachings, and its possible Jesus was influenced by the Essenes who practiced communal living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 hours ago, Campion said: Interesting idea. Although if Essene-ism was communist then communism isn't so new. And there's the possibility that the communistic ideas predate the Essenes, if they learned them from elsewhere. I'm reading a book at the moment called 'A search for the historical Jesus' by Prof Fida Hassnain, which goes into the theories about Jesus (and Joseph) being an Essene initiate, along with John the Baptist, plus Jesus's travels further East into India. Stating that he studied Buddhism, which has a version of communism with its monasteries. I don't believe it all, but it has some good material which is adding to my theories about Jesus and his early movement. My belief is, if its not written in the Bible don't believe it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 hours ago, alexa said: My belief is, if its not written in the Bible don't believe it. Sorry no offence intended but ... Does the Bible itself tell us that it is the repository of all truth? If not, where do you get that belief from? I do love a good self-reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, Campion said: Sorry no offence intended but ... Does the Bible itself tell us that it is the repository of all truth? If not, where do you get that belief from? I do love a good self-reference Psalm 119:160 & John 14:6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, Campion said: Sorry no offence intended but ... Does the Bible itself tell us that it is the repository of all truth? If not, where do you get that belief from? I do love a good self-reference Your question is disingenuous and passive aggressive. You're probably not even going to read the evidence she gave you. If you did, it would be through the lens of, "I don't believe this and I'm going to prove it wrong." And because of this attitude you will never see from the other perspective. Oh but you probably think you are open minded. You're open mined only to what affirms your own beliefs. You're only fooling yourself pretending to some rational, evidence-based, skeptic scholar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 hours ago, alexa said: My belief is, if its not written in the Bible don't believe it. Do you believe all the contradictions in the Bible equally too? So when it contradicts itself do you believe both versions at the same time? For instance one gospel says the sky went dark when Jesus died, but the other Gospels don't. One gospel has it Jesus died during the afternoon while another has it later. One Gospel has it Judas bought a field and hung himself where in Acts it says he didn't. So which version of stories do you believe? How do you know which contradiction to accept as true? Are you concerned about 'Pious Fraud'? How do you know which passages have been written and fraudulently inserted by over zealous priests and ought to be Ignored? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 11 hours ago, pi3141 said: As I understand it, Marx was anti-religion so if he made that remark it doesn't surprise me. marx came from a long line of rabbis so i doubt he was anti-religion i think he just wanted YOU to turn your back on christianity because it is a barrier to the takeover of christendom by karl marx's bosses the rothschilds the bolsheviks were funded by the wall street bankers like jacob schiff and rothschild front man JP morgan and they then set about attacking the church in russia the rothschilds are sabbateans and the sabbatesns are lurianic kabbalists so they are not anti-religion per se they are just against the religion of europe: christianity in order to enslave europeans the sabbateans need to destroy the family unit and the cohesion of society. They do this through third wave, marxist feminism, critical theory, wokeism, lgbt agenda, antifa, BLM and the attacks on the church etc 11 hours ago, pi3141 said: Given that modern Communism is largely Atheist is seems likely they would attack religions. The fraudulent Protocols of Zion came out of Russia. how do we know that the protocols are a fraud? Just because they were used in a novel doesn't mean that the content doesn't have a source that pre-dates that novel i suggest that the protocols outline the battle plan of the sabbateans who hide behind jews 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, alexa said: Psalm 119:160 & John 14:6 2 hours ago, Michi713 said: You're only fooling yourself pretending to some rational, evidence-based, skeptic scholar. Ah, I can see how my post could be construed that way, the whole religion vs rationalism thing can take over. That's not my intention tho. Sometimes language throws up paradoxes that I like to use to jump out of logical thought, like in Zen. Yes I've read the Bible verses, thanks for those: the Psalms one is new to me; the John one is very famous ofc. Saying something like 'I am the truth', or the Bible contains the whole truth, is exciting because of the Everything paradox (a version of self-reference). What's true is what exists, so if Jesus is the truth, then he's reality itself. Everything is Jesus, there is only Jesus. Or we could say the same about the Bible. And we're into the unity consciousness, monism, or nonduality. This kind of mysticism is the special contribution which religion can offer and takes us past the hard rationalism of science vs religion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, pi3141 said: Do you believe all the contradictions in the Bible equally too? So when it contradicts itself do you believe both versions at the same time? For instance one gospel says the sky went dark when Jesus died, but the other Gospels don't. One gospel has it Jesus died during the afternoon while another has it later. One Gospel has it Judas bought a field and hung himself where in Acts it says he didn't. So which version of stories do you believe? How do you know which contradiction to accept as true? Are you concerned about 'Pious Fraud'? How do you know which passages have been written and fraudulently inserted by over zealous priests and ought to be Ignored? Have you ever crossed referenced the Gospels or all of the bible for that matter ? Hers's where you find your truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: marx came from a long line of rabbis so i doubt he was anti-religion I would argue he repackaged his religion as an outwardly secular pseudo-scientific political philosophy which conceals a passionate religious faith whereby the state becomes God and the communist party his priesthood. Stalin was also from a religious background, he trained as a priest, which I'm not surprised about. 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: In order to enslave europeans the sabbateans need to destroy the family unit and the cohesion of society. They do this through third wave, marxist feminism, critical theory, wokeism, lgbt agenda, antifa, BLM and the attacks on the church etc. That's certainly how it looks; and what steps into the breach created by this destruction to clean up, but the big, supernanny, technocratic state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, alexa said: Have you ever crossed referenced the Gospels or all of the bible for that matter ? Hers's where you find your truth. Yes, that's what I'm doing. I'm buying the Anchor Bible series of the Bible and I have software with all the English translations and I cross reference to expose the lies and frauds in the English Bibles and bring the truth to you 'Christians' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: how do we know that the protocols are a fraud? Just because they were used in a novel doesn't mean that the content doesn't have a source that pre-dates that novel i suggest that the protocols outline the battle plan of the sabbateans who hide behind jews So your suggesting a French man discovered the secret Jewish plans for a worldwide conspiracy, and rather than take it to the authorities or newspapers, adapted the documents and incorporated them into a novel, which was then picked up decades later by the Russians who, although no connection existed in the novel, correctly realised it applied to the Jews , so they re-wrote it in its original form, although they had no reference to the original, and released it to the world? And through a series of extraordinary coincidences it is actually true? You would rather believe something like the above than the established facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 20 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Yes, that's what I'm doing. I'm buying the Anchor Bible series of the Bible and I have software with all the English translations and I cross reference to expose the lies and frauds in the English Bibles and bring the truth to you 'Christians' Well feel free to expose any fraud or lies you may happen to stumble upon, you should do a thread on this subject, I'm sure I can put to right any discrepancies you may have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 52 minutes ago, alexa said: Well feel free to expose any fraud or lies you may happen to stumble upon, you should do a thread on this subject, I'm sure I can put to right any discrepancies you may have. Well vaguely I have in my Keys to Religion threadon the Religion sub forum. In there it explains there is no Hell. Hell being a Christian fiction and little or no basis in scripture. To believe in Hell is an offense to God. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 17 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Well vaguely I have in my Keys to Religion threadon the Religion sub forum. In there it explains there is no Hell. Hell being a Christian fiction and little or no basis in scripture. To believe in Hell is an offense to God. Thanks - I'll take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 20 hours ago, pi3141 said: According to Rev Taylor in his Diegesis, Eusebius calls the Essenes or Theraputae - Apostoloci as mentioned in the Apocryphal scriptures. In John xvii 16 Christ himself says of his apostles 'they are not of this world, even as I am not of the world' which is supposed to be a cryptic confirmation that he was of that sect of monks - Theraputae or otherwise known as Essenes called Apostoloci in scripture. The Essenes largely dwelt in Egypt, and Taylor States 'Everything that is Christian is of Egyptian origin' which includes the Essenes system. According to Eusebius - 'those ancient Theraputae were Christians, and that their ancient writings were our gospels and Epistles' taken from his history book, from which the Chapter is titled 'The Religion published by Jesus Christ to all Nations is neither new or strange' There is a record of a great teacher studying with Buddhists and taking their knowledge back East with him. What if God did not want to throw fireballs, lightning bolts or flood again and opted instead to play the "perfect man" in the form of Christ? To educate people by setting a concrete example of what a truly good man speaks, acts and reasons like? Would it be difficult for the creator of the Universe to play his own "son" in order to teach Power a lesson or two? And who will return in the 2nd Coming then? Will it be the "son" again or will the Father appear as himself this time and AGAIN force Power to its knees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Campion said: Ah, I can see how my post could be construed that way, the whole religion vs rationalism thing can take over. That's not my intention tho. Sometimes language throws up paradoxes that I like to use to jump out of logical thought, like in Zen. Yes I've read the Bible verses, thanks for those: the Psalms one is new to me; the John one is very famous ofc. Saying something like 'I am the truth', or the Bible contains the whole truth, is exciting because of the Everything paradox (a version of self-reference). What's true is what exists, so if Jesus is the truth, then he's reality itself. Everything is Jesus, there is only Jesus. Or we could say the same about the Bible. And we're into the unity consciousness, monism, or nonduality. This kind of mysticism is the special contribution which religion can offer and takes us past the hard rationalism of science vs religion. Sorry Campion. Allan Watts and all got it. "So if Jesus is truth, then he is reality itself. Everything is Jesus, there is only Jesus." Mind blown. Sounds like some med student picked it up from an interpretive dance class in Bali. Studying the Bible is not the equivalent of smoking a big fat bowl of weed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Michi713 said: Studying the Bible is not the equivalent of smoking a big fat bowl of weed. Ha ha, luckily I can get it without smoking anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi713 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 @pi3141 Hi pi. Have you ever studied Joseph, son of Jacob's role in ancient Egypt and his influence on their belief system at that time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Michi713 said: @pi3141 Hi pi. Have you ever studied Joseph, son of Jacob's role in ancient Egypt and his influence on their belief system at that time? No, but I'm currently reading about Egypt, and have shown on my thread that Christianity was heavily influenced by the Egyptian pagan mystery schools. According to Eusebius, the Gospels as handed down to the Apostles, were taught in Egypt by the Essenes long before the one we call Christ preached them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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