SuperstarNeilC Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 They need to put Mrs Grumpy & her son under the microscope ! Too many coincidences…… SHE discovers the dog & phone . SHE has to rush away for an appointment, even though she has only just arrived for the start of her walk SHE has a history of threatening other dog walkers in that area (and threatening to *shoot* their dogs with a gun) SHE owns & runs the nearby caravan park HER son operates and is responsible for the crucial cctv camera, conveniently not working ! HER daughter in law is the person who raised the alarm by calling the school ( an hour after being told by her mother in law ) HER daughter in law knew exactly who the missing lady was purely from a verbal description of the loose dog over the phone ? Spaniels are very common, how could she know for sure it was willow, so certain that she rang the school, school rang Paul, Paul rang police ! What if she’d been wrong ? Way too many coincidences here involving the same people 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony81 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 7 hours ago, SuperstarNeilC said: She had a Fitbit with Strava app, which records *all* movements, everywhere she went with exact timings (when turned on). - She used it regularly and its publicly available to view. But this issue seems to have been vastly ignored or skirted around for some reason, but the key thing is what happened to the fitbit, did she have it on her at the exact time of supposed abduction? or was it discarded of at that precise time? this whole disappearance of her is a cluster fuck of epic proportions at the moment, I guess one certain conlusion anyone can draw is that she is not in the river and the police I do not trust one iota. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 30 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said: They need to put Mrs Grumpy & her son under the microscope ! Too many coincidences…… SHE discovers the dog & phone . SHE has to rush away for an appointment, even though she has only just arrived for the start of her walk SHE has a history of threatening other dog walkers in that area (and threatening to *shoot* their dogs with a gun) SHE owns & runs the nearby caravan park HER son operates and is responsible for the crucial cctv camera, conveniently not working ! HER daughter in law is the person who raised the alarm by calling the school ( an hour after being told by her mother in law ) HER daughter in law knew exactly who the missing lady was purely from a verbal description of the loose dog over the phone ? Spaniels are very common, how could she know for sure it was willow, so certain that she rang the school, school rang Paul, Paul rang police ! What if she’d been wrong ? Way too many coincidences here involving the same people As an armchair detective, the gate directly behind the bench she was allegedly sitting on, which leads to a caravan park would be my first line of enquiry, but the police ruled out any criminal activity, immediately. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 This could rumble on for months or even years. This magical mystery came alive very quickly after the curtains were drawn on the Maddie charade. It seems to me to be a similar passing of the baton that we saw from Covid to Ukraine. Look forward to new breakthroughs, new information shedding light, new leads seeming to suggest this or that, possible sightings. Look forward to the online harms bill being wielded against anybody who dares to speculate. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 They’re talking about seeing a tatty red Renault van parked next to an abandoned building near to where she disappeared. Someone rang the cops and reported it before they even knew she was missing. The papers are implying it was a van that someone could live in. Looks like they might be hinting at van dwellers of transients. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeThrive Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 41 minutes ago, SuperstarNeilC said: They need to put Mrs Grumpy & her son under the microscope ! Too many coincidences…… SHE discovers the dog & phone . SHE has to rush away for an appointment, even though she has only just arrived for the start of her walk SHE has a history of threatening other dog walkers in that area (and threatening to *shoot* their dogs with a gun) SHE owns & runs the nearby caravan park HER son operates and is responsible for the crucial cctv camera, conveniently not working ! HER daughter in law is the person who raised the alarm by calling the school ( an hour after being told by her mother in law ) HER daughter in law knew exactly who the missing lady was purely from a verbal description of the loose dog over the phone ? Spaniels are very common, how could she know for sure it was willow, so certain that she rang the school, school rang Paul, Paul rang police ! What if she’d been wrong ? Way too many coincidences here involving the same people That’s ominous….really dodgy sounding. That cctv not working is a red flag. Ive wondered if the police are using drowning theory as their own public decoy, so that the real investigation going on behind the scenes doesnt have eyes and minds pouring all over it..? I cast the astrology charts for the location she went missing and her own birth chart using various charts for comparison. I wont bore all with astrology jargon, but suffice to say, she had this year 2 really heavy planetary transits happen, that hapoen to us all, but usually separately, not together. Thats saturn opposite saturn, alongside uranus opposite uranus - which in her specific chart draws a cross literally + between the 2 planets - hitting sensitive points of her natal chart. These transits are normally life-changing, but happening together we get a scenario of forever altering the course of life. This is karmic heavy. Saturn opposite saturn. Thats karma. Other signatures for her karma life path are active. The why’s and wherefores are various yet with a prominent signature of secrets/money/spouse/hidden enemies/obsession - aswell as the public feature prominently. Also water signatures feature prominently - various interpretations for these aside from literal water -they symbolise emotions, the beyond life, the hidden, secrets, the watery undercurrent of life no-one knows. There is too strong a mars signature for this to be just a water accident -mars means ‘action/accidents with a background of fire igniting the event - this fire is either anger or passion with mars. The comparison of her chart with the chart of the place is a synastry of nightmares - ive never seen so many oppositions in a chart aswell as ‘tense’ oppositions that are so numerous to draw a pentagram, oddly enough. Definitely wrong place wrong time for her. The truth always gets revealed. I had a dream about this after digging into it so dont like submerging into these underworld themes too deeply as my mind is good while im sleeping, at answering any ‘why?’ query via the astral, my ego brain can come up with. This case saddens me. It highlights the brutality of life, and reminds me how much more gentle we should all live it. Wherever the lass is, i hope she has peace and strength. Im not convinced this is a psyop….just massive media emblazoning of a missing persons case, likely as suggested, to keep everyone occupied while the left hand tickles the pulpit of tyranny. After convid, their psyop game has been drastically ‘upped’…a missing persons case doesnt elicit anywhere near the level of fear that convid did….and thats THE business these people are in: pure fear. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 42 minutes ago, Velma said: As an armchair detective, the gate directly behind the bench she was allegedly sitting on, which leads to a caravan park would be my first line of enquiry, but the police ruled out any criminal activity, immediately. It was probably a copper. They seem to recruit bad 'uns these days. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 My car went into Peugeot in Worthing today for a full service and MOT, they said did I want to wait? They offered me coffee and sat me near the customers T.V. and lo and behold, the lovely Philip Schofield and his smarmy buddy Holly Willingly were on, with some twat called Sir Grayson Perry { whoever that is? }. So I decided to wander across the road to the Asda superstore Café for a bacon bap and a minus Phil and Holly coffee { I.E.= NO ADDED OILINESS} ! I got back to find that 'LOOSE WOMEN' had replaced 'The Gruesome Twosome' and standing next to the telly was one of the service advisers making a coffee for another customer! I asked was it alright if I turned the channel over? He said 'yes sir, of course you can, don't you like 'LOOSE WOMEN' then'? I said 'loose women'? if I had a shotgun handy, they'd be a lot looser than they are now, believe me'! He just laughed and handed me the remote 'that's the best weapon I'm allowed to offer you I'm afraid' he said with a wink 'But I know what you mean' he said. I said 'no wonder the average I.Q. is dropping like a stone, feeding the gullible on this bullshit, some of them are as thick as pigshit mate, honestly'! The loose women were going on about Nicola Bulley and how everyone had their own theories, and maybe it was hampering the police's investigations, Denise Welch was just going to throw in her four pennorth when I clicked over to another channel! Either this is 'Lord Grayson Perry' OR an escaped clown? I've NEVER seen him before, and there's no way I'd care to see him again, he looks a right wanker! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarNeilC Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Grumpy Lady hates dogs off leads. She’d had words, arguments, with Nicola previously about Willow, who **loves** to be off lead. Grumpy Lady develops a personal vendetta against Nikky, who refuses to keep Willow leashed. Grumpy Lady and her two son’s & daughter-in-Law are all psychopaths/sociopaths. - The two sons have the hots for attractive blonde Nikky. - They want to have their wicked way with her, to possess her completely. Daughter-in-law knows her husband has sexual desires for Nikky and thus despises her all the more. - She is more than willing to participate in torture and killing (Rosemary West, Myra Hindley). All four of them make a plan to abduct Nikky. - They know her exact movements, times and routes. - They formulate a plan and realise that to bring it to fruition one of the security cameras needs to be disabled, which they do. Then they bide their time, watching her every day, for the opportune time to strike. They see her on 27th January. - The coast is clear, no one else around. - They wait for her to enter Upper Field, which is closest to their caravan park. - The two sons enter field to abduct Nikky. Willow is off-lead and Nikky is on her phone listening to the staff conference meeting, her camera turned off and muted, as usual. Willow senses the two son’s deep malevolence and begins barking at them. The 70 year old man with small fluffy white dog hears the barking and looks over. - He recognises Nikky and Grumpy Lady’s sons. He knows something is not quite right, but turns a blind eye, and carries on on his way. - (He knows the sons are “bad apples” and doesn’t want involvement in whatever’s transpiring). (Plus he’s a friend of Grumpy Lady, and will later “cover up” when questioned by police, denying he saw the two sons, saying he didn’t recognise the two men, pretending they were strangers). The two sons then somehow kidnap Nikky, incapacitating her, possibly knocking her unconscious, or threatening her with a gun. - They drag her to the caravan park. Daughter-in-law, who was hiding close by, runs out, grabs phone, leashes Willow, and drags him through kissing gate to the bench. - She places phone on bench, drops lead on ground, and leaves Willow alone in agitated state. - (They know it will appear as if Nikky fell in river). The sons then jump in vehicle and drive a bound and gagged Nikky to some other pre-determined location, chaining her up in a dark cellar. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 10 hours ago, Anthony81 said: All you have to do is take a look at her Fb profile and you will see for yourself how much she posted family trips events etc, and pics of her and the dog willow by the river wyre, all perfect for anyone stalking her and knowing her location, iam more leaning towards the theory she has been sadly abducted by a third party and may already be dead. Has anyone said, it could have been a dog napper as what WOULD have been a possible?? (so.. except I think I'm reading the dog was found alive, left by itself but obviously the woman not) In that theory this third party of abductors then bumped her the owner off in the process? ETA, I think SuperStarNeil is the superstar detective here!! Wow, good insights of deduction... Powerful stuff you are concocting, really indeed!! This in regard to your second post just above, ALL on this page5, so the one up top whereas to include, I don't know fully that I comprehend all that yet, so I copied BeeThrive in putting THIS FACE Well it's not a race is it, ooooooooooooook it's a race. If someone truly has been abducted/ murdered. Edited February 9 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagon44 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Velma said: As an armchair detective, the gate directly behind the bench she was allegedly sitting on, which leads to a caravan park would be my first line of enquiry, but the police ruled out any criminal activity, immediately. It has to be a psyop. This perfect couple happy beyond compare apparently the details on the Facebook face of hers have been changed from Nicola to Nikki over the last week . His statement seems totally contrived like he had been schooled to say the right things for statement analysis 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarNeilC Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 The (Freemason) police would much prefer an accidental drowning verdict than involvement of a local they have known for years with status in the community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 Tonight on the radio the police had to disperse a group of men who had decided to search a derelict house. The police had already searched it. I thought the term disperse was interesting. Also if they do search they may be responsible for criminal damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 Daily Mail front page on Wednesday It's appalling that Nicola's family nightmare is being turned into a ghoulish carnival of cynics, gossips, know-alls and arm chair sleuths ... by Bel Mooney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony81 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, SuperstarNeilC said: Grumpy Lady hates dogs off leads. She’d had words, arguments, with Nicola previously about Willow, who **loves** to be off lead. Grumpy Lady develops a personal vendetta against Nikky, who refuses to keep Willow leashed. Grumpy Lady and her two son’s & daughter-in-Law are all psychopaths/sociopaths. - The two sons have the hots for attractive blonde Nikky. - They want to have their wicked way with her, to possess her completely. Daughter-in-law knows her husband has sexual desires for Nikky and thus despises her all the more. - She is more than willing to participate in torture and killing (Rosemary West, Myra Hindley). All four of them make a plan to abduct Nikky. - They know her exact movements, times and routes. - They formulate a plan and realise that to bring it to fruition one of the security cameras needs to be disabled, which they do. Then they bide their time, watching her every day, for the opportune time to strike. They see her on 27th January. - The coast is clear, no one else around. - They wait for her to enter Upper Field, which is closest to their caravan park. - The two sons enter field to abduct Nikky. Willow is off-lead and Nikky is on her phone listening to the staff conference meeting, her camera turned off and muted, as usual. Willow senses the two son’s deep malevolence and begins barking at them. The 70 year old man with small fluffy white dog hears the barking and looks over. - He recognises Nikky and Grumpy Lady’s sons. He knows something is not quite right, but turns a blind eye, and carries on on his way. - (He knows the sons are “bad apples” and doesn’t want involvement in whatever’s transpiring). (Plus he’s a friend of Grumpy Lady, and will later “cover up” when questioned by police, denying he saw the two sons, saying he didn’t recognise the two men, pretending they were strangers). The two sons then somehow kidnap Nikky, incapacitating her, possibly knocking her unconscious, or threatening her with a gun. - They drag her to the caravan park. Daughter-in-law, who was hiding close by, runs out, grabs phone, leashes Willow, and drags him through kissing gate to the bench. - She places phone on bench, drops lead on ground, and leaves Willow alone in agitated state. - (They know it will appear as if Nikky fell in river). The sons then jump in vehicle and drive a bound and gagged Nikky to some other pre-determined location, chaining her up in a dark cellar. Well you might be onto something here, if the caravan park owner and her two sons are lets say "unhinged" and she has made threatening advances towards nikki bulley concerning her dog, then this scenario would not be outside the realms of plausibility would it not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, SuperstarNeilC said: Grumpy Lady hates dogs off leads. She’d had words, arguments, with Nicola previously about Willow, who **loves** to be off lead. Grumpy Lady develops a personal vendetta against Nikky, who refuses to keep Willow leashed. Grumpy Lady and her two son’s & daughter-in-Law are all psychopaths/sociopaths. - The two sons have the hots for attractive blonde Nikky. - They want to have their wicked way with her, to possess her completely. Daughter-in-law knows her husband has sexual desires for Nikky and thus despises her all the more. - She is more than willing to participate in torture and killing (Rosemary West, Myra Hindley). All four of them make a plan to abduct Nikky. - They know her exact movements, times and routes. - They formulate a plan and realise that to bring it to fruition one of the security cameras needs to be disabled, which they do. Then they bide their time, watching her every day, for the opportune time to strike. They see her on 27th January. - The coast is clear, no one else around. - They wait for her to enter Upper Field, which is closest to their caravan park. - The two sons enter field to abduct Nikky. Willow is off-lead and Nikky is on her phone listening to the staff conference meeting, her camera turned off and muted, as usual. Willow senses the two son’s deep malevolence and begins barking at them. The 70 year old man with small fluffy white dog hears the barking and looks over. - He recognises Nikky and Grumpy Lady’s sons. He knows something is not quite right, but turns a blind eye, and carries on on his way. - (He knows the sons are “bad apples” and doesn’t want involvement in whatever’s transpiring). (Plus he’s a friend of Grumpy Lady, and will later “cover up” when questioned by police, denying he saw the two sons, saying he didn’t recognise the two men, pretending they were strangers). The two sons then somehow kidnap Nikky, incapacitating her, possibly knocking her unconscious, or threatening her with a gun. - They drag her to the caravan park. Daughter-in-law, who was hiding close by, runs out, grabs phone, leashes Willow, and drags him through kissing gate to the bench. - She places phone on bench, drops lead on ground, and leaves Willow alone in agitated state. - (They know it will appear as if Nikky fell in river). The sons then jump in vehicle and drive a bound and gagged Nikky to some other pre-determined location, chaining her up in a dark cellar. Seriously though, the Plod seem to have made some appalling errors from Day 1, even to the casual armchair detective or amateur sleuth, who all seem to be doing a better job. I think the dog is key. If she'd been taken away on land, the dog would be trying to follow, or would be signalling in that direction. The fact it stayed by the river suggests perhaps she was abducted via the river, in a boat. Looking at how shallow the river is, theres no way she, a strong swimmer, could have drowned in such shallow water, even if it was more fast flowing than usual. It would also explain why no sniffer dogs can locate her from that spot, if she was taken away via the water. Still no word from those on the Teams phone meeting either, or any mention of who they are, which you'd think would also be key. Edited February 10 by northern star 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 52 minutes ago, Observations said: Daily Mail front page on Wednesday It's appalling that Nicola's family nightmare is being turned into a ghoulish carnival of cynics, gossips, know-alls and arm chair sleuths ... by Bel Mooney I'm not taking sides with a paper I'm sure of that, but I don't think us lot come under the heading of gossip anyway. Cynics are a natural breed to involve in conspiracy if constructive & imaginative enough, but on the other hand if you had someone missing from your family or friend, whatever, it would drive you potty to have a myriad of possibilities despite how it might ultimately be helpful maybe, so yes, even when many maddening voices of amateur calibre/ or academically trained, forensics of psychology might actually come avail and help in the end, again maybe......but in whatever sense of coming avail logic, finally the amateur sleuths would hopefully be vindicated. (maybe cynics also therefore, BUT what I really hate is neighborly type of sniping in the form of that kind of cynic -the people with heavy bias or unbalanced probability etc- barbed tongue types who are persistent for example on just one or two snidey or narrow minded opinions, and whoever we are on this forum, I'm sure we all know someone like that in our community - of course it gets even worse online, BUT at least here in cyber-space there are exponentially a wider ranger of perspectives to consider) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Observations said: Daily Mail front page on Wednesday It's appalling that Nicola's family nightmare is being turned into a ghoulish carnival of cynics, gossips, know-alls and arm chair sleuths ... by Bel Mooney Another of the MSM's useful shills. I suppose Esther Rancid is unable to take her part now. I'll tell you what's appalling luv, the use (maybe even fabrication) of some random lady's disappearance to distract the public, and to also use the hapless manner of the investigation as a means to shut down free speech again. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/6/2023 at 8:26 PM, Grumpy Owl said: My eyebrows got raised when the police came up with their 'hypothesis' that she had fell in the river, because it seemed at that point they were trying to 'close down' or swiftly conclude the investigation. I very much hope that Richard D Hall will pick up on this one and start some proper investigating, as so many things just don't 'add up'. For starters, why would she log into a Teams work call on her mobile phone, then just leave it on the bench while still logged in? Who were the other participants in this work call, and did they notice anything 'off'? Did she say anything before she put her phone down on the bench? Who does she work for and what was the purpose of her being on this call? (If she was working from home, why not join from her home computer?) With no evidence that anyone had slipped and fallen into the river, and no body or items of clothing found in the water, why were the police so quick to 'assume' she had fallen in the river and 'did not leave the area'? I get the feeling that something is being covered up, but at this stage, I have no idea why. I hadn't read much details so wasn't aware of all that. Very odd indeed. I agree with you that it looks like a cover up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 hours ago, Saved said: Look forward to the online harms bill being wielded against anybody who dares to speculate. Lancashire Police said it may take legal action "where appropriate" after a number of "grossly offensive" comments were made on social media. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 hours ago, SuperstarNeilC said: Grumpy Lady hates dogs off leads. She’d had words, arguments, with Nicola previously about Willow, who **loves** to be off lead. Grumpy Lady develops a personal vendetta against Nikky, who refuses to keep Willow leashed. Grumpy Lady and her two son’s & daughter-in-Law are all psychopaths/sociopaths. - The two sons have the hots for attractive blonde Nikky. - They want to have their wicked way with her, to possess her completely. Daughter-in-law knows her husband has sexual desires for Nikky and thus despises her all the more. - She is more than willing to participate in torture and killing (Rosemary West, Myra Hindley). All four of them make a plan to abduct Nikky. - They know her exact movements, times and routes. - They formulate a plan and realise that to bring it to fruition one of the security cameras needs to be disabled, which they do. Then they bide their time, watching her every day, for the opportune time to strike. They see her on 27th January. - The coast is clear, no one else around. - They wait for her to enter Upper Field, which is closest to their caravan park. - The two sons enter field to abduct Nikky. Willow is off-lead and Nikky is on her phone listening to the staff conference meeting, her camera turned off and muted, as usual. Willow senses the two son’s deep malevolence and begins barking at them. The 70 year old man with small fluffy white dog hears the barking and looks over. - He recognises Nikky and Grumpy Lady’s sons. He knows something is not quite right, but turns a blind eye, and carries on on his way. - (He knows the sons are “bad apples” and doesn’t want involvement in whatever’s transpiring). (Plus he’s a friend of Grumpy Lady, and will later “cover up” when questioned by police, denying he saw the two sons, saying he didn’t recognise the two men, pretending they were strangers). The two sons then somehow kidnap Nikky, incapacitating her, possibly knocking her unconscious, or threatening her with a gun. - They drag her to the caravan park. Daughter-in-law, who was hiding close by, runs out, grabs phone, leashes Willow, and drags him through kissing gate to the bench. - She places phone on bench, drops lead on ground, and leaves Willow alone in agitated state. - (They know it will appear as if Nikky fell in river). The sons then jump in vehicle and drive a bound and gagged Nikky to some other pre-determined location, chaining her up in a dark cellar. Her husband does not seem concerned that it's possible his wife could have met such a fate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, Velma said: Lancashire Police said it may take legal action "where appropriate" after a number of "grossly offensive" comments were made on social media. The script (whether naturally unfolding or not) is tempting people to say what we are all thinking. Now we have red van man as the chief suspect, as police release a 'new' line of enquiry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Just now, Saved said: The script (whether naturally unfolding or not) is tempting people to say what we are all thinking. Now we have red van man as the chief suspect, as police release a 'new' line of enquiry. After two weeks of focussing on the river, red van man will be long gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I watched Mark Williams-Thomas podcast defending his friend Peter Faulding and the first thing he said was, he's got a book coming out. The rest was just him gushing about how wonderfully selfless Peter is.... What Lies Beneath: My life as a forensic search and rescue expert Hardcover – 2 Feb. 2023 https://www.amazon.co.uk/What-Lies-Beneath-forensic-search/dp/1035005905# So, SGI's involvement was all a publicity stunt to sell his books. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagon44 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 hours ago, Velma said: Her husband does not seem concerned that it's possible his wife could have met such a fate! Assuming it his her husband she has probably gone back to her real husband and identity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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