Malbec Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 54 minutes ago, BornFreeNowAgain said: Not to mention if I was a leading search operator like Faulding is, areas that might stand out to me, are areas like the one Nicola was found in as to my 'untrained eyes' I would think those areas would be prime for a body to have got stuck Didn't he say, the reeds would class as part of the land search and not the river which I can't quite get my head around, since the reeds are clearly in the rover and not on land?! Not sure if he's just deflcting or what... I understand the sonar would be in the actual water, but still. Do you mean Peter should have thought of that general area? Or the search teams in general? Surely someone would have looked in those reeds at some point?! Maybe they were too busy tying those yellow ribbons to the bridge and having selfies on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagon44 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Apparently she only be identified by her dental records who could know such rapid deterioration could happen in three weeks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, BornFreeNowAgain said: I certainly agree that the 'spinning phenomena' is possible. We have seen many videos of those 'spinning' and ending up far away from where they began, including an horrific one on a train platform who ended up under an oncoming train. But even with that theory, some things still don't make sense. Peter Faulding has stated that he reviewed his footage of the search in that area, and he is still adamant that Nicola was not in the water at that point. Then you have to take into account how bloated a body would be after 3 weeks in the water which would have made her hard to miss, even in reeds. And then you have decomposition that in 3 weeks you would imagine would be causing at least an unpalatable scent in the air. When I looked at the location of where she was found, it is in a perfect spot for a body to be dumped with the layby right next to it. Not to mention if I was a leading search operator like Faulding is, areas that might stand out to me, are areas like the one Nicola was found in as to my 'untrained eyes' I would think those areas would be prime for a body to have got stuck in. Looking along the length of that river, there were not even that many areas like that so you cannot excuse the sheer volume of spots to look in. Very strange. Why is it that all these 'events' that are given such huge media coverage, always seem to have so many anomalies around them. After a sonar scan of the river, the reeds, bushes and overhanging trees would be the most obvious places to look. One option is that she was put there recently and the psychic brought in to "find" the body to make the case seem even more woo woo. And why have the press blown the story up, only to attack the resulting public curiosity? What did they expect? Regarding Jaquie Deevoy's piece, where she makes some excellent points, wouldnt loads of the parents, teachers and children at the school also know the family? Not a single peep out of anybody there. CCTV of her driving to the village that day might have jogged some memories too, but it never surfaced. No word from the boss or people on the conference call either, the last people with contact. So strange in these days of Starlink satellites, constant surveillance, CCTV, dashcam footage, doorbell cameras, a mobile phone, a Fitbit and traceable car keys, not one piece of evidence other that a few low-fi photos exists of her that morning. Edited February 23 by northern star 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornFreeNowAgain Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 35 minutes ago, Dagon44 said: Apparently she only be identified by her dental records who could know such rapid deterioration could happen in three weeks. Could indicate she WAS in the water for 3 weeks? Certainly, from what I have heard (going from memory recall here not recent research) the body can bloat to such an extent and thus cause severe bruising, that a body can be unrecognisable. But then after 3 weeks, the decomposition would also be the case no matter where she has been for 3 weeks unless kept in cold storage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, BornFreeNowAgain said: And then you have decomposition that in 3 weeks you would imagine would be causing at least an unpalatable scent in the air. Surely specialist 'cadaver' dogs would have been used to detect any traces of a rotting corpse? There's absolutely no way such a dog could miss a scent like that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornFreeNowAgain Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 51 minutes ago, Malbec said: Didn't he say, the reeds would class as part of the land search and not the river which I can't quite get my head around, since the reeds are clearly in the rover and not on land?! Not sure if he's just deflcting or what... I understand the sonar would be in the actual water, but still. Do you mean Peter should have thought of that general area? Or the search teams in general? Surely someone would have looked in those reeds at some point?! Maybe they were too busy tying those yellow ribbons to the bridge and having selfies on the bench. Yes, very weird thing to say but perhaps that really is standard protocol, but only if safe to search from the bank. In some banks there is no way it would be safer to search from the bank than the water due to the sheer drops and unstable banking. Yes, I mean when you look at a map of the river, there are some spots that you would imagine a seasoned search expert would identify as 'probable' places a body that is not visible on the waters surface may have got caught up in, and where she was located would be one of the very few on that stretch. Boggles the mind if they did not search that area during their extensive searches. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornFreeNowAgain Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, webtrekker said: Surely specialist 'cadaver' dogs would have been used to detect any traces of a rotting corpse? There's absolutely no way such a dog could miss a scent like that. Indeed, something is rotten with this whole case and search. The way the Police have handled this is so incompetent, that when that happens, you cannot help thinking it has to be corrupt. Only when there is a 'protected person' do the Police (and Courts) appear to f@ck it up so badly. So, who is protected? And what exactly were the Police called for 10 days prior to her disappearing? Very strange as it could easily have been that Nicola called them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 hours ago, Velma said: Over £10,000 was raised by a GoFundMe campaign to support family of Nicola Bulley with funeral costs. The fundraiser, set up two days ago to support the family and her daughters, has now been increased to £25,000. A huge crowd has gathered for the obligatory vigil in Nicola Bulley’s home town in Essex to remember her. A street artist has created a mural to Nicola Bulley in the town where she grew up, South Woodham Ferrers in Essex. Social media algorithms that reward and encourage controversial content fuelled the waves of online interest in the case, experts have claimed. Publication on Amazon of books about Nicola Bulley has prompted anger and accusations of profiteering. Three “shameful and beyond disrespectful” books were briefly advertised on the site, before being taken down. Oh, of course. Those darn "social media algorithms" (whatever TF those are) were the reason so many people questioned the BS narrative, nothing to do with none of it making an ounce of sense and stinking to high heaven. Silly me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornFreeNowAgain Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Another possible angle with this case is to demonize the public (as is happening) but also 'non-official' or non-authority bodies. Now, given the way the Police themselves have been so incompetent, that might be hard but then the mass population is gullible as hell. If the Police now come out and it is 'proven' that they were correct all along, and that private companies like Peter Faulkner's team got it so badly wrong, it might lead to greater 'confidence' in authority? Remember, the 'Elite' always find a way to 'feed' the free-floating vacuum that exists. The COVID scam may have opened the door to a certain percentage of the population that 'authority' cannot be trusted, and voila, along comes a 'story' that shows the Police in a good light, the 'internet people' in a bad light, and non-authoritative people also in a bad light? Just a theory as I was walking to the park, glorious morning here in Sydney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 minutes ago, webtrekker said: Surely specialist 'cadaver' dogs would have been used to detect any traces of a rotting corpse? There's absolutely no way such a dog could miss a scent like that. And often people go missing and it takes a while to trace their last moves. In this case they knew exactly where she diasappeared and were alerted within half an hour of the disappearance, and were on the scene almost immediately. Dogs could have traced her movements from that bench. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornFreeNowAgain Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, northern star said: And often people go missing and it takes a while to trace their last moves. In this case they knew exactly where she diasappeared and were alerted within half an hour of the disappearance, and were on the scene almost immediately. Dogs could have traced her movements from that bench. So true! Right from the beginning I was a little surprised that the Police got involved so quickly. From my memory, they normally don't take a missing person that seriously, but I suppose they would argue that they 'had the prior Police report when they attended the home" to give them concerns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Dagon44 said: Apparently she only be identified by her dental records who could know such rapid deterioration could happen in three weeks. Today I read somewhere that she was identified by a Maxillofacial Surgeon, and, her dental records! Surely then, she must have had her faced re arranged somehow? either through a violent act by someone, or by smashing it into some heavy object like a rock, or an underwater tree root etc? If this was a fictional book she'd probably be a 'Jane Doe' from a distant mortuary, substituted to bring an end to all the conjecture and other outlandish theories, but of course, this is 'real life' and dramatic things like that don't happen, do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, Mr Crabtree said: If this was a fictional book she'd probably be a 'Jane Doe' from a distant mortuary, substituted to bring an end to all the conjecture and other outlandish theories Still a more credible explanation than what we've been fed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, northern star said: So strange in these days of Starlink satellites, constant surveillance, CCTV, dashcam footage, doorbell cameras, a mobile phone, a Fitbit and traceable car keys, not one piece of evidence other that a few low-fi photos exists of her that morning. All of the above tech are off at a crucial moment. It has always been that way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Quote Same uneven issues with teeth are quite common too. Look for odd characteristics like pixels and repeated incisors. Fake hair, in general, may seem with some glow around it or look too straight and streaked, again, with visible asymmetry. Study background carefully. If it’s fake, it may include unusual distortions in shapes and lines, or have a torn appearance overall. Bleed-through occurs in bright colors that stand out from the background onto a fake person’s head. https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/en 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 11 minutes ago, DaleP said: All of the above tech are off at a crucial moment. It has always been that way. Yep Epstein, night of Diana's death, cameras not working 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 26 minutes ago, Mr Crabtree said: Today I read somewhere that she was identified by a Maxillofacial Surgeon, and, her dental records! Her DNA would be the most reliable form of identification. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, DaleP said: Yeah, remember this being posted a while back, it's quite jaw-dropping. And so many of the "photos" in the MSM coverage of all kinds of stories have "people" who look like this. Keep refreshing the page, and you see more clearly how it's done, how the mouths, the eyes, the fake stuff is created. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Yeah, remember this being posted a while back, it's quite jaw-dropping. And so many of the "photos" in the MSM coverage of all kinds of stories have "people" who look like this. Keep refreshing the page, and you see more clearly how it's done, how the mouths, the eyes, the fake stuff is created. And we have deepfake as well. It makes me question....if we end up not believing in anything what's out there except for the photo/video you and your family or close friends have taken, what would our world be like? What do you think the nomies would do? Just accept the fake? May be they would simply because not knowing what is fake or not. 911 comes to mind.... that was an event but if it becomes our everyday life...... in a sense, we are already there. This leads to a bigger question as well. Coming from FE thread, if the elites know that we can't get out from the Matrix at all, then of course they'd do most outrageous thing to pass time. But my hope is knowing Thoth can come n go from this time/space realm.... perhaps we could......... Edited February 24 by DaleP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 https://www.itv.com/watch/deep-fake-neighbour-wars/10a2895/10a2895a0001 First rule of social engineering and getting people suckered into the agenda....present it as entertainment. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said: I certainly agree that the 'spinning phenomena' is possible. We have seen many videos of those 'spinning' and ending up far away from where they began, including an horrific one on a train platform who ended up under an oncoming train. But even with that theory, some things still don't make sense. Peter Faulding has stated that he reviewed his footage of the search in that area, and he is still adamant that Nicola was not in the water at that point. Then you have to take into account how bloated a body would be after 3 weeks in the water which would have made her hard to miss, even in reeds. And then you have decomposition that in 3 weeks you would imagine would be causing at least an unpalatable scent in the air. When I looked at the location of where she was found, it is in a perfect spot for a body to be dumped with the layby right next to it. Not to mention if I was a leading search operator like Faulding is, areas that might stand out to me, are areas like the one Nicola was found in as to my 'untrained eyes' I would think those areas would be prime for a body to have got stuck in. Looking along the length of that river, there were not even that many areas like that so you cannot excuse the sheer volume of spots to look in. Very strange. Why is it that all these 'events' that are given such huge media coverage, always seem to have so many anomalies around them. I've smelt a dead body twice in my life. Having checked just now, putrefaction commonly occurs between four and ten days (though I don't know about gases being discernible from underwater). On both occasions the body could be smelt a good ten metres away through numerous walls and a couple of fire doors - all the way to outside of the buildings in which the bodies lay. It's the most invasive smell imaginable and gets into your memory. I could 'smell' what I did even hours later when miles away. I'd think that experienced emergency services, including any policeman that's been on the beat for a few years, would have encountered the same terrible odour. Surely somebody walking that bank would have smelt something and a dog would certainly have done so, perhaps even if the body was underwater and said dog was a trained cadaver. The anomalies common to media cases where an underlying agenda is at play are often far more ridiculous than in any 'who done it' script on television. Deceivers always sow confusion and as stated right back at the start of this thread, the welcome mat has been laid down for obsessive speculation and conversation. What follows is obvious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarNeilC Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 There’s “speculation” that Nikki was submerged in Rowanwater lake (in caravan park thru wooden gate in upper field). And later, when the heat had died down and the coast was clear, was covertly moved to river. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) Faulding spent most of his alloted time searching upstream of the bench site, including Rowanwater. He said in his expert opinon that there was no body in the water, and that it was impossible for a body to get over the weir and go downstream from there. The facts are (if this story is real) that the body went in at the bench site, got over the weir and then floated down a shallow river, only two feet deep in many places, round several bends, over a period of three weeks, to finally come to rest under a bush a mile away. During that time, the police were searching the river and the land, with drones and helicopters in the air, and including almost constant media coverage and the general public in their hordes covering the area carrying out seaches. How did the body get there unobserved, is the question? Edited February 24 by northern star 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 10 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said: The COVID scam may have opened the door to a certain percentage of the population that 'authority' cannot be trusted, and voila, along comes a 'story' that shows the Police in a good light, the 'internet people' in a bad light, and non-authoritative people also in a bad light? If they did not want the story all over the Internet then why publicize it so much? The Psyop smell is strong with this one... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 If it was sacrificial than water would play a big role in it what is odd is that the police said she is in the river and she was in the river 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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