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UK Government scrapping cheaper return train tickets and replace with two single tickets which will be more expensive, so when the 15 minute cities are established the poor won't able able to leave their zone and travel.

 

Return train tickets will be scrapped for 'single-leg pricing' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714979/Return-train-tickets-scrapped-single-leg-pricing-unveiled.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

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2 hours ago, Greenhulk50 said:

so when the 15 minute cities are established the poor won't able able to leave their zone and travel.

 

What makes you think you'll be poor? Can you earn more to compensate or have you already shut the door?

Really these financial issues are sorted out if you decide to earn more.

Read the trend and ride with it so that you can hit a jackpot. HINT: Anything community based, good for people makes tons of money.

 

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11 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

What makes you think you'll be poor? Can you earn more to compensate or have you already shut the door?

Really these financial issues are sorted out if you decide to earn more.

Read the trend and ride with it so that you can hit a jackpot. HINT: Anything community based, good for people makes tons of money.

 

It doesn't matter how much you earn you will still be restricted to where you can travel even if you have a electric car, with 15 minute cities you won't be able to use your petrol car to travel outside your zone or you will face a fine. 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Greenhulk50 said:

It doesn't matter how much you earn you will still be restricted to where you can travel even if you have a electric car, with 15 minute cities you won't be able to use your petrol car to travel outside your zone or you will face a fine.

 

There is always a way. Be defiant. 😁

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4 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

There is always a way. Be defiant. 😁

 

At the moment there is. But once the track & tracing 5g streetlamps start doling out a feeling "similar to being on fire" whenever we stray from our essential journey, it's going to be a whole different game.

 

The Active Denial weapon mounted on this truck may be an extreme example, but uses a frequency well within the 5g band, and can apparently target individuals from a distance of 6 football pitch lengths.

 

AP_DenialSystem.gif

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On 2/5/2023 at 9:31 PM, DaleP said:

 

What makes you think you'll be poor? Can you earn more to compensate or have you already shut the door?

Really these financial issues are sorted out if you decide to earn more.

Read the trend and ride with it so that you can hit a jackpot. HINT: Anything community based, good for people makes tons of money.

 

there will be no rich or poor. just slave class and elite. everyone will be the same status, there won't be one guy on the street who drives a porsche who the others envy/begrudge and the others drive ford or vauxhall, no one will drive anything. Scwab has decided its an unfair system.

we will own nothing and be happy. all status symbols will be gone.

The end of capitalism is coming. It's futile to start a business now.

 

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1 hour ago, Chris P said:

 

At the moment there is. But once the track & tracing 5g streetlamps start doling out a feeling "similar to being on fire" whenever we stray from our essential journey, it's going to be a whole different game.

 

The Active Denial weapon mounted on this truck may be an extreme example, but uses a frequency well within the 5g band, and can apparently target individuals from a distance of 6 football pitch lengths.

 

AP_DenialSystem.gif

ah OK.

There is always a counter solution.....It would be interesting if we reflect it back at it......

The clue to solution....whatever that is....it is vibrational, wave.

 

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56 minutes ago, factJack said:

there will be no rich or poor. just slave class and elite. everyone will be the same status, there won't be one guy on the street who drives a porsche who the others envy/begrudge and the others drive ford or vauxhall, no one will drive anything. Scwab has decided its an unfair system.

we will own nothing and be happy. all status symbols will be gone.

The end of capitalism is coming. It's futile to start a business now.

 

 

Yeah I get it that the end of capitalism is here. But I think you are only concentrating on what could be negative and forgetting what other changes are taking place right now too. For example, some will say it's 5G but I think the changes nature is bringing to us is bigger than 5G. When I say nature, I'm talking about the Earth and the Universe which is changing frequency and changing our DNA i.e. ascension and this is evident from seeing so many people are dying off from vaxx allegedly as well as animals e.g. fish, bees, birds etc also dying in mass everywhere in the world. Many of us in the forum refused the jab because WE kept certain frequency and we were able to receive the right info but others who were tuned to different radio station missed out on the info.

 

If you remember the video of cymatics, sand/salt changing its geometric shape in second the minute frequency has been changed. Imagine that is happening to us and our DNA right now. Some cannot ride with the tide and die, some who have the mind of water can adapt and keep rising. So my point is this, don't just look at what the agenda may be. There will be new ability bestowed on us, different kind of babies will be born with abilities etc So it is not going to be the same. The only way to survive is to be flexible, be open to change and keep your vibration high because that is the key to having access to the Akashic record where all the solutions are. It will rain on you effortlessly.

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1 hour ago, DaleP said:

When I say nature, I'm talking about the Earth and the Universe which is changing frequency and changing our DNA

 

I agree that this may happen to some (the unjabbed), I believe it has something to do with the two witnesses in the scriptures, who are the Gentiles & the Jews (the two have mingled together). So I wouldn't be worrying about train fare's too much.

God will give us the power to fight back.

 

 

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3 hours ago, factJack said:

there will be no rich or poor. just slave class and elite. everyone will be the same status, there won't be one guy on the street who drives a porsche who the others envy/begrudge and the others drive ford or vauxhall, no one will drive anything. Scwab has decided its an unfair system.

we will own nothing and be happy. all status symbols will be gone.

The end of capitalism is coming. It's futile to start a business now.

 

 

That's their stated plan, although it's not necessarily going to go the whole hog. Personally I think the best solution is a multi-targeted approach. For instance we can hope for the best while preparing for the worst. So I wouldn't necessarily turn down a good business opportunity right now, although it's common sense to prepare for hard times.

 

We can gradually stock up on essentials: camping equipment, water purification, first aid, fuel, food, warm clothes, books etc. Maybe get a bike and learn some basic skills in our spare time.

 

I do think it's just as important to encourage others to do the same.. as if shit DOES hit the fan (total collapse of society) then anyone caught without supplies or tradeable skills will be part of the problem.

 

If we focus entirely on the worst possible scenario, then we could potentially miss our chance for a way out of this mess.

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3 hours ago, DaleP said:

Counter solution.....It would be interesting if we reflect it back at it......

The clue to solution....whatever that is....it is vibrational, wave.

 

 

I'd love to find some shielding that actually works, and is affordable! Unfortunately most of the companies selling these products, EMF surveys etc don't seem to have a clue.


For example there are companies testing their products to a maximum of 16GHz and claiming it successful against "all current and upcoming 5g frequencies". Completely ignoring the fact that 5g is going up to well over 100GHz according to an Ofcom consultation!


The EMF solutions company will state that higher frequencies are actually easier to block. This may be true with solid sheeting (no air holes), in lab conditions but is not the case in the real world. Higher frequencies reflect off surfaces more easily, will fit through the tiniest gap (around 10% of the wavelength), and then just bounce around inside your Faraday cage. This means you need a microwave absorbing material to line the cage.


I've been looking at what's actually used in the real world. So below is an enclosure for reading animal chip signals (they are otherwise drowned out by a phone mast up to 1.5km away!)


https://www.opensourceinstruments.com/Electronics/A3018/Faraday_Enclosures.html


The reference describes shielding that's successful enough at under 1GHz. But frequencies of 100GHz+ are a complete different game. Much of the relevant information is classified, as it relates to military radar / stealth etc. I don't think you can buy a tester that goes over around 20GHz


I don't even know where to start when it comes to issues such as capacitive coupling, skin depth, resonance & harmonics etc. Other phenomenon that only becomes apparent at these higher, classified frequencies. 

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28 minutes ago, Chris P said:

 

I'd love to find some shielding that actually works, and is affordable! Unfortunately most of the companies selling these products, EMF surveys etc don't seem to have a clue.


For example there are companies testing their products to a maximum of 16GHz and claiming it successful against "all current and upcoming 5g frequencies". Completely ignoring the fact that 5g is going up to well over 100GHz according to an Ofcom consultation!


The EMF solutions company will state that higher frequencies are actually easier to block. This may be true with solid sheeting (no air holes), in lab conditions but is not the case in the real world. Higher frequencies reflect off surfaces more easily, will fit through the tiniest gap (around 10% of the wavelength), and then just bounce around inside your Faraday cage. This means you need a microwave absorbing material to line the cage.


I've been looking at what's actually used in the real world. So below is an enclosure for reading animal chip signals (they are otherwise drowned out by a phone mast up to 1.5km away!)


https://www.opensourceinstruments.com/Electronics/A3018/Faraday_Enclosures.html


The reference describes shielding that's successful enough at under 1GHz. But frequencies of 100GHz+ are a complete different game. Much of the relevant information is classified, as it relates to military radar / stealth etc. I don't think you can buy a tester that goes over around 20GHz


I don't even know where to start when it comes to issues such as capacitive coupling, skin depth, resonance & harmonics etc. Other phenomenon that only becomes apparent at these higher, classified frequencies. 

 

What kind of place does the most advanced life form live but charges it's own people so much to move around to the point they can't afford it, and instead need to put tin foil science experiment helmet on to protect from its own leaders.....

 

A prison

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On 2/5/2023 at 6:44 PM, Greenhulk50 said:

UK Government scrapping cheaper return train tickets and replace with two single tickets which will be more expensive, so when the 15 minute cities are established the poor won't able able to leave their zone and travel.

 

Return train tickets will be scrapped for 'single-leg pricing' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714979/Return-train-tickets-scrapped-single-leg-pricing-unveiled.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

 

That is right, another move by sleight of hand to make it more expensive and inconvenient to travel be it by train, car or plane.

 

Jimmy Savile will be spinning in his grave about the scrapping of cheap return tickets. 😄

 

 

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8 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

That is right, another move by sleight of hand to make it more expensive and inconvenient to travel be it by train, car or plane.

 

Jimmy Savile will be spinning in his grave about the scrapping of cheap return tickets. 😄

 

 

I hear they changing 'Build Back Better '

to 'As it Happens ' 😅 

 

 

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On 2/5/2023 at 6:44 PM, Greenhulk50 said:

UK Government scrapping cheaper return train tickets and replace with two single tickets which will be more expensive, so when the 15 minute cities are established the poor won't able able to leave their zone and travel.

 

Return train tickets will be scrapped for 'single-leg pricing' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11714979/Return-train-tickets-scrapped-single-leg-pricing-unveiled.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

 

If it means that single fares can be reduced to a more reasonable price, then it should work out fine.

 

When a single journey costs £140, while a return costs £150, somebody somewhere is getting seriously fleeced.

 

A few years ago, I used to once or twice a year travel down to London, and it was cheaper to buy two singles at £6, than it was to buy a return at £32 🤪

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16 hours ago, alexa said:

 

I agree that this may happen to some (the unjabbed), I believe it has something to do with the two witnesses in the scriptures, who are the Gentiles & the Jews (the two have mingled together). So I wouldn't be worrying about train fare's too much.

God will give us the power to fight back.

 

 

 

Yeah, people are forgetting to include the unknown factor in the possibility of our future.

Thanks for the video, I will watch later.

It looks rather worrying though, I didn't think so far as our DNA change would make us into a tree........

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15 hours ago, Chris P said:

 

I'd love to find some shielding that actually works, and is affordable! Unfortunately most of the companies selling these products, EMF surveys etc don't seem to have a clue.


For example there are companies testing their products to a maximum of 16GHz and claiming it successful against "all current and upcoming 5g frequencies". Completely ignoring the fact that 5g is going up to well over 100GHz according to an Ofcom consultation!


The EMF solutions company will state that higher frequencies are actually easier to block. This may be true with solid sheeting (no air holes), in lab conditions but is not the case in the real world. Higher frequencies reflect off surfaces more easily, will fit through the tiniest gap (around 10% of the wavelength), and then just bounce around inside your Faraday cage. This means you need a microwave absorbing material to line the cage.


I've been looking at what's actually used in the real world. So below is an enclosure for reading animal chip signals (they are otherwise drowned out by a phone mast up to 1.5km away!)


https://www.opensourceinstruments.com/Electronics/A3018/Faraday_Enclosures.html


The reference describes shielding that's successful enough at under 1GHz. But frequencies of 100GHz+ are a complete different game. Much of the relevant information is classified, as it relates to military radar / stealth etc. I don't think you can buy a tester that goes over around 20GHz


I don't even know where to start when it comes to issues such as capacitive coupling, skin depth, resonance & harmonics etc. Other phenomenon that only becomes apparent at these higher, classified frequencies. 

 

I would say, there is someone out there who knows how to counter it, someone like Barry Trower. It's not your call therefore you don't know but keep learning about it because even a small information you discover may lead you to a person who knows how to. There is always strength and weakness in anything and that's what we need to find. I agree that higher the frequency, it cannot penetrate. Waves aren't like isotropic radiation which pierce through a wall. This is why you only hear the bass sound of next door neighbour's music. Higher end of frequency can't get through because wavelength is short. Mind you, there is always V2K..... 🤔

 

Having said this, there was a video where people wore an ordinary pair of headphones to block out the high frequency and it worked.

 

Now, talking of Faraday cage.... I found below and Faraday cage may not be all that good especially if you need to practice astral travel.

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Another American scientist, the late Dr. Valerie Hunt, research scientist, author, lecturer, and professor emeritus of physiological science at UCLA, also studied the human biofield for many decades and made many contributions to this field of research: “Postulating that human bioenergy fields oscillate at significantly higher frequencies than EKG or EEG machines were designed to measure, Dr. Hunt developed a high-frequency instrument which records the bioelectrical energy that
emanates from the body’s surface. She proved that energy radiating from the body’s atoms give frequencies 1,000 times faster than any other known electrical activity of the body.”10

 

Dr. Hunt also conducted research using an electromagnetically shielded “mu” room and found that when electromagnetism was removed from the room, people “went to pieces,” having emotional breakdowns for no particular internal reasons. When ambient electromagnetic energy was restored to the room, participants found themselves feeling fine again.[11] This would imply that the presence of EM fields is necessary for an organism to maintain a sense of coherence and “togetherness.”*[4]

 

[4] Oschman, Energy Medicine, 8.
[11] Hunt, Infinite Mind.

 

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16 minutes ago, DaleP said:

It looks rather worrying though, I didn't think so far as our DNA change would make us into a tree........

 

Lol'z - :classic_biggrin: The DNA change is not going to change us into a tree, the description in the bible is allegorical where it states the branches of the tree will mingle, it means, the Gentiles and the Jews will come together & with the power of God that he is going to give us via a DNA upgrade, we will be able fight these war mongering elite. These are the two witnesses. 

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On 2/7/2023 at 8:36 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

If it means that single fares can be reduced to a more reasonable price, then it should work out fine.

 

When a single journey costs £140, while a return costs £150, somebody somewhere is getting seriously fleeced.

 

A few years ago, I used to once or twice a year travel down to London, and it was cheaper to buy two singles at £6, than it was to buy a return at £32 🤪

 

Yeah we would hope that they would be "reasonable" about it! But I somehow doubt that's how it will pan out. 

 

Similar to what's going on with the buses. Every fare reduced to £2!? Sounds fantastic at first glance, and it's great for the shorter journeys previously billed at £3 odd..

 

But what's it gonna do for long distance travel, for tourism etc? I just checked the UK's "voted most scenic" route, the 840 Leeds-Whitby. So an open return just decreased in price from over £25, to just £4. I'm wondering how Transdev can make profit from this, or who's gonna make up the shortfall 🤔  

 

The buses themselves are carrying adverts suggesting we live in the city centre, and praising our "County Mayor" for subsidies as if we're already in North Korea! Not long ago they were advertising Scarborough, Whitby and other places to visit.

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18 hours ago, Chris P said:

 

Yeah we would hope that they would be "reasonable" about it! But I somehow doubt that's how it will pan out. 

 

Similar to what's going on with the buses. Every fare reduced to £2!? Sounds fantastic at first glance, and it's great for the shorter journeys previously billed at £3 odd..

 

But what's it gonna do for long distance travel, for tourism etc? I just checked the UK's "voted most scenic" route, the 840 Leeds-Whitby. So an open return just decreased in price from over £25, to just £4. I'm wondering how Transdev can make profit from this, or who's gonna make up the shortfall 🤔  

 

The buses themselves are carrying adverts suggesting we live in the city centre, and praising our "County Mayor" for subsidies as if we're already in North Korea! Not long ago they were advertising Scarborough, Whitby and other places to visit.

 

The 'current thing' with buses is not quite the same, but is possibly related.

 

Bus operators participating in this scheme will ultimately lose money, but it will be - yes you guessed it - us taxpayers at large who end up footing the bill for this mass subsidisation of bus services.

 

Here in the West Midlands, the max single fare is £2.40, but then again if people are making a journey TO somewhere, then they will usually need to travel back, in which case most people are already buying day tickets at either £4.00 or £4.20, which then allows them to make multiple journeys by bus in a single day.

 

I imagine people who infrequently travel by bus in other areas of the country where fares may be higher have seen some benefit as a result of this scheme, however unless there has been significant increases in patronage, then the bus operators themselves will likely see no benefit. What then happens when fares go back up again after March?

 

As I see things, as a bus user myself, during the 'pandemic' the Government and local authorities did what they could to dissuade people from using public transport because "it wasn't safe" and they might catch some pesky virus and die as a result. It is not enough to keep throwing public money at bus operators to support commercial bus services, and I don't think 'franchising' is the answer or solution here either.

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