Your Attitude Towards Vaxxed People

[Certified Green of Heart]

Isn't TV eugenics enough?? hahah. 

[Campion]

8 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Having a scientific background do you have any theories about the other eugenics programmes that might be running right now?

 

One which worries me is the deliberate ignoring of the drop in fertility in the industrialised countries showing in men as reduced sperm counts and testosterone, in women as lower birth rates. We know many of the causes, there's other threads about it in the forum, but it is a crisis worse than covid and climate change put together. And the government, industry and MSM are shunning any public discussion. 

 

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, Campion said:

I'll need to trace back through the audit trail (so to speak) of actual evidence if I'm going to evaluate it myself, as if I'm a peer reviewer. 

 

I'm lucky to have had a degree level education in scientific subjects (but not medicine), so I'm not the average jabbee who would rather believe the labcoats uncritically.

 

Great! glad to hear you are in good health by the way and long may it last

 

So let me throw in another few points of interest. So a name that crops up on a lot of aluminium studies is christopher exley and you just now that nefarious forces will always immediately set their sights on any paper that comes from people like him. if they can find any discrepancy then they demand the paper is retracted but there are shortcomings with the peer review system for example who the people are reviewing!

 

exley's research funding was withdrawn so that's point 1

 

point 2 is that the daily mail recently ran a story about how there is a new test that tests for autism by looking at how much aluminium is in the persons body. Well the presence of aluminium in autistic people is one of the things that exley has looked at in his studies. If the 'scientists' are now saying there IS a connection between the presence of aluminium in the body and that persons autism then we have to ask HOW the aluminium got into the person in the first place

 

point 3 a VERY GOOD break down by james corbett of the shortcomings of the current peer review system:

The Crisis of Science

Corbett • 02/24/2019

In recent years, the public has gradually discovered that there is a crisis in science. But what is the problem? And how bad is it, really? Today on The Corbett Report we shine a spotlight on the series of interrelated crises that are exposing the way institutional science is practiced today, and what it means for an increasingly science-dependent society.

https://www.corbettreport.com/the-crisis-of-science/

[Ergo Storm]

2 hours ago, Campion said:

 

As a jabbed person myself (tho stopped now) I don't think most people realise yet that they have been fooled. They're more likely to buy into some story along the lines that mistakes were made because the scientific research was rushed through and political decisions made on early preliminary results. 

 

The problem is that few of us are well educated in this area of medicine. We can't very well do our own research, we likely can't even understand the research papers written by scientists so the alternative is to place belief in external authority. Whether it's the mainstream media, spokesmen & women, politicians or alternative sources of information. We can't find out directly for ourselves so we need to look indirectly and read or listen to someone else to get opinions. That is, put them in a position of authority (trusted authorship). And this is above all a war of trust, who do we trust with truthful information? 

 

Sorry but I think you're missing the point.  It's not really about who to trust.  When it comes to injecting things into your own body, it's foolish to trust anybody, other than in circumstances where the treatment is necessary.  If I break my leg and need surgery for this, I accept I need to put my trust in qualified people, as the treatment is necessary, so the question is whether masks, lockdowns and injections were and are necessary.

 

You have to make your own decision about whether you think any of this was and is necessary, but I think anybody who looks at the official government statistics can see that it wasn't necessary. I don't need conspiracy theories.  I can just look at the government's own information and it tells me that wearing masks, lockdowns, injections, etc. was not needed.  None of it was necessary.  I don't need a medical degree to come to this conclusion, as it's within the field of any layman.  It's just a matter of clearing out of your head all the white noise from both the mainstream media and the alternative media,and then applying a sense of proportion. 

 

If there were bodies literally piling up in the streets, or there was a serious demonstrable risk of this, I might revise my views, not least for my own safety, and I would then have to consider the issue of who I trust, but that is not the situation, so I don't need to go into that, nor is it necessary to come up with elaborate theories about the motives of people in authority.

 

All anybody had to do was stop, look at the matter calmly by considering the facts, and think a little, and it would have been clear that it was all a load of nonsense.  In the first few days of it, back in March 2020 or whenever it was, I was slightly taken in but I stopped, looked at the matter calmly using facts from the mainstream media, and realised it wasn't quite right.  As time went on, it became clear that it was all nonsense.  It wasn't David Icke or Vernon Coleman or Richie Allen or anybody in the alternative media who influenced me, it was the mainstream media and the government's own information.  That was what told he it was all rubbish.  That's because, unlike 99% of people, I actually listened to what was being said and sought out some basic facts that could easily be found by anyone in mere seconds or minutes - all of it official information.  In consequence, I never wore a mask and never had the vaccines, and I'm still here.

 

Not a question of 'trust', which is subjective.  Nothing to do with fancy theories about 5D masts, Chinese bioweapons, the CIA, Big Pharma, or lizards or whatever.  Just a matter of using your noggin.

Edited February 4 by Ergo Storm

[Campion]

On 2/4/2023 at 10:02 PM, Ergo Storm said:

Sorry but I think you're missing the point.  It's not really about who to trust.  When it comes to injecting things into your own body, it's foolish to trust anybody, other than in circumstances where the treatment is necessary.  If I break my leg and need surgery for this, I accept I need to put my trust in qualified people, as the treatment is necessary, so the question is whether masks, lockdowns and injections were and are necessary.

 

You're making a good point, one that's different from mine. If the official data and information is obviously at odds with their actions then there's an inconsistency which is a good sign that something is wrong. You know that you can't trust something, either the information or the policies or both. 

[Mikheil]

On 2/4/2023 at 11:02 PM, Ergo Storm said:

 

Sorry but I think you're missing the point.  It's not really about who to trust.  When it comes to injecting things into your own body, it's foolish to trust anybody, other than in circumstances where the treatment is necessary.  If I break my leg and need surgery for this, I accept I need to put my trust in qualified people, as the treatment is necessary, so the question is whether masks, lockdowns and injections were and are necessary.

 

You have to make your own decision about whether you think any of this was and is necessary, but I think anybody who looks at the official government statistics can see that it wasn't necessary. I don't need conspiracy theories.  I can just look at the government's own information and it tells me that wearing masks, lockdowns, injections, etc. was not needed.  None of it was necessary.  I don't need a medical degree to come to this conclusion, as it's within the field of any layman.  It's just a matter of clearing out of your head all the white noise from both the mainstream media and the alternative media,and then applying a sense of proportion. 

 

If there were bodies literally piling up in the streets, or there was a serious demonstrable risk of this, I might revise my views, not least for my own safety, and I would then have to consider the issue of who I trust, but that is not the situation, so I don't need to go into that, nor is it necessary to come up with elaborate theories about the motives of people in authority.

 

All anybody had to do was stop, look at the matter calmly by considering the facts, and think a little, and it would have been clear that it was all a load of nonsense.  In the first few days of it, back in March 2020 or whenever it was, I was slightly taken in but I stopped, looked at the matter calmly using facts from the mainstream media, and realised it wasn't quite right.  As time went on, it became clear that it was all nonsense.  It wasn't David Icke or Vernon Coleman or Richie Allen or anybody in the alternative media who influenced me, it was the mainstream media and the government's own information.  That was what told he it was all rubbish.  That's because, unlike 99% of people, I actually listened to what was being said and sought out some basic facts that could easily be found by anyone in mere seconds or minutes - all of it official information.  In consequence, I never wore a mask and never had the vaccines, and I'm still here.

 

Not a question of 'trust', which is subjective.  Nothing to do with fancy theories about 5D masts, Chinese bioweapons, the CIA, Big Pharma, or lizards or whatever.  Just a matter of using your noggin.

The second they mentioned "Asymptomatic spreaders" I think anyone with two grey cells to rub together would know it was pure unadulterated BULLSHIT.

 

Asymptomatic spreaders are as common as rocking horse shit or chicken's teeth.

 

Typhoid Mary was one - so fucking rare REAL doctors couldn't believe it and there's never been a mention of it since.

 

As for masks there was (note WAS) a shitload of info about how fucking useless they were but Google 'sanitised' it and brought in 'new studies' (paid for by Govt and cunts like Fauci, Gates et al.,) proving (like 'The Jab') how safe and effective they were.

 

The sudden disappearance of influenza to be replaced by Covid-19. (That which we call a rode, by any other name, would smell as sweet - William Shakespeare - a fucking long time ago), should also have got any remaining grey cells working and alarm bells ringing like mad.

 

Anyone whose brain couldn't get around this can be labelled as a FUCKING MORON and whatever happens to them is well deserved. They should never be allowed to breed and produce more cunts like themselves.

 

If you are so fucking stupid that you believe ANYTHING that the Govt or MSM tells you, you won't be missed.

[wideawake]

On 2/4/2023 at 1:08 PM, Macnamara said:

i can forgive people who acted in good faith and got fooled

 

but what concerns me is where we all go from here

 

none of us are going to be safe until the psychopaths hands are taken off the steering wheel of society and my concern is that i don't see an upswell of outrage from the vaxxed

 

this leaves me worried that they are suffering some sort of stockholm syndrome and that if the cabal pull this whole scamdemic trick again with for example avian flu the vaxxed will simply fall into line again. I also worry that none of them will stand up for the rights of the unjabbed to have a choice over their bodily integrity

 

If the jabbed want to seek justice with the rest of us then we should embrace them but my worry is that many of them for some strange quirk of human psychology that i don't understand are going to simply double down on their belligerant hostility towards those of us who don't blindly obey authority

 

It is our duty to save humanity from collapsing and by turning against all vaxxed people (as some suggest), it would be beneficial to no one during this long term struggle.

The truth will prevail eventually and it is for each and everyone of us to do our best to share PROVEABLE FACTS with the vaxed and unvaxed on a regular basis. I managed (still) to influence quite a few sleepers myself and I make it my priority one to spread the truth.

We are at a point of no return, we, all of us, have to work toward saving humanity and eliminate the parasites that have been killing billions over the years. A tooth for a tooth... we just can't afford to lose this battle, we can't. 

 

We do what is right and from the heart... 

Cheers!

 

Edited February 9 by wideawake

[SimonTV]

Arrogant know it all cowards at best and deceitful, treasonous and spiteful at worse. 

[Macnamara]

14 hours ago, wideawake said:

The truth will prevail

 

not necessarily

 

we are moving into the 'great reset' fourth industrial revolution where everything is going to be centrally controlled. The central controllers will dictate to people what their perception of reality should be. Anyone who tries to share a different perception of reality will be attacked by the state

 

the truth will only prevail if people speak it and soon people will not be able to speak it

Edited February 9 by Macnamara

[wideawake]

17 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

not necessarily

 

we are moving into the 'great reset' fourth industrial revolution where everything is going to be centrally controlled. The central controllers will dictate to people what their perception of reality should be. Anyone who tries to share a different perception of reality will be attacked by the state

 

the truth will only prevail if people speak it and soon people will not be able to speak it

 

I hear what you're saying and that is their plan but right now around the world there's already enough people awake to upset the cart, we just can't give up and that should be our first objective. Assuming they're winning this takeover is admitting defeat from the very beginning. I am not down yet and as the saying goes:

I'd rather die standing than living on my knees.

I am very well aware we are in this war for the long haul and it's only starting but instead of idling and letting them establish their rules, mandates and acts, we need to be pro-active and go after the parasites themselves.

 

It's going to get ugly soon enough so lets roll up our sleeves (pun intended) not for the poison but for the long battle ahead and get a thicker skin. 

Eventually after much pain and deaths, we will have a new normal they so promoted but without the parasites themselves. Maybe they could foresee their own extermination... 

 

We need a strong positive mentality and perseverance to get there and one should seek likeminded individuals for support and survival. 

 

 https://rumble.com/v261e7m-our-birthright.html

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 10 by wideawake

[Michi713]

Love your altruism.  Here's the cynical view:

 

Yeah, tell somebody "Hey, you've poisoned yourself.  Stop being dumb.  Here's some info."  Sounds like evangelism, and how effective is that?  

 

Like I can come on here and say,

"Hey new age screw head, Jesus is not the devil and wandered in India and became a Buddhist." No, they will continue to hack away at something they don't even try to understand. 

 

Ignorance of a subject never prohibits anyone from forming an opinion.  

 

Opinions get solidified into beliefs and beliefs are near impossible to change.  Most people are a lost cause.  And others simply lack the brain capacity to grasp the subject.  They just can't!  

 

So fight, yes, for your own families.  We've already gotten a demonstration of how everyone is. 

[shadowmoon]

Annoyance that eventually became indifference. 

I honestly don't care now its too late.

 

[Athenry04]

I feel pity and will help anyone who asks for help.  Those that rejoiced when i lost my job and was banned from every public building, pub, cafe etc, and still think the Qld gov was right to do it, can obviously eat shit.

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

15 hours ago, Athenry04 said:

I feel pity and will help anyone who asks for help.  Those that rejoiced when i lost my job and was banned from every public building, pub, cafe etc, and still think the Qld gov was right to do it, can obviously eat shit.

You were banned from pubs? Which country are you from, America? 
You lost you’re job too? I’m sorry to hear that, how can that happen? Surely that’s unfair dismissal, take the f***ers to court

[Athenry04]

6 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

You were banned from pubs? Which country are you from, America? 
You lost you’re job too? I’m sorry to hear that, how can that happen? Surely that’s unfair dismissal, take the f***ers to court

 

I'm from manchester, but live in Qld, Australia. Medical apartheid ran for about 7 months last year.

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

13 hours ago, Athenry04 said:

 

I'm from manchester, but live in Qld, Australia. Medical apartheid ran for about 7 months last year.

You guys had it rough over there. Seems the commonwealth countries are even more autocratic than their parent. 

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

On 2/2/2023 at 4:25 PM, Michi713 said:

Hello all.  Hoping some chatty people will respond honestly to this question:

 

How do you feel towards the vaccinated at this point in the game?
 

Love, hate, resentment, forgiveness, pity, superiority, etc.  

 

No right or wrong answers here.  Just honesty if you please.

 

Personally, I don't know what to feel.  I toggle between, anger and sympathy mostly.  Anger at myself that I wasn't loud about warning people.  I just observed them and was more concerned with protecting my kid.  

 

If they are nice and polite and don't give me a hard time about me not getting the shot, I'll respond in kind.  Remember, you are dealing with people whose potential lifespan has been severely compromised so a bit of compassion wouldn't go amiss. It's the ones that are still pushing the agenda that I steer clear of.