Mr Crabtree Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 This National Grid idea about having a cash payback for switching off your power seems a bit 'iffy' to me, I think it might be another test to see who will conform to their requests, like the amount of sheep who conformed to the 'wear a mask' adverts by your creepy, snidey, not to be trusted government! Personally my disabled wife's warmth and comfort is my aim, not following the governments dictates! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Well, if you've been conned into a smart meter, it would be silly not to. And the times are when most people are still travelling home from work so wouldn't be doing the washing or whatever anyway. Of course, I don't have a smart meter. I get my dosh off National Grid by running exams for their supervisory staff (they have to redo security ticket every year). And I have to turn the power ON to do that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy64 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 well its a salami slicing of your usage as you'll have to use less and less to get any money back, they can sod off if they think im sitting in the dark and freezing to save a few quid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 ive saved 60% of my gas usage by burning coal and logs and that includes the outlay of the fuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This reminds me of mask wearing during the "pandemic". Easy representation of who is falling for the bollocks mass media peddles. Power will most likely be going off at some stage though. But if it does its not for the reasons globalists believe it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 could they switch off every smart meter in a town in one go by sending a text? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewok Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: could they switch off every smart meter in a town in one go by sending a text? would they need to send a text? my understanding is they can just shut them off remotely from their end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ewok said: would they need to send a text? my understanding is they can just shut them off remotely from their end. how do they send the message to shut down to the meter? is it through the mobile phone network or do they send it down the mains cable? Edited January 27 by bamboozooka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy64 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 they use the mobile phone network:- https://www.smartdcc.co.uk/our-smart-network/how-do-smart-meters-send-readings/#:~:text=The communications hub transmits the,these to the DCC servers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewok Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: how do they send the message to shut down to the meter? is it through the mobile phone network or do they send it down the mains cable? I thought it would be down the cabling to the meter, but I don't know enough to say definitively, hence why I asked the question. it was interesting to me that a phone network would need to be connected for it to operate / communicate, but I don't have a smart meter for gas / electric. I had a smart water meter installed last year without my consent (done outside my house via the pavement - they just did it a few months after an 'inspection' that I quizzed them about, then sent me a letter telling me they had), and that doesn't need my phone to operate (and it's off / not connected to data / wifi most of the time), but maybe it's different for gas / electric smart meters? Edited January 27 by ewok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewok Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 5 minutes ago, eddy64 said: they use the mobile phone network:- https://www.smartdcc.co.uk/our-smart-network/how-do-smart-meters-send-readings/#:~:text=The communications hub transmits the,these to the DCC servers. ah, so they just use the network and communicate with your 'hub', so they send the message to that. thanks, eddy64, very interesting - especially the casual mention of GCHQ, I bet all the info collected is going via there too (as most - if not all - digital comms is anyway). Edited January 27 by ewok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/27/2023 at 1:36 PM, ewok said: I thought it would be down the cabling to the meter, but I don't know enough to say definitively, hence why I asked the question. it was interesting to me that a phone network would need to be connected for it to operate / communicate, but I don't have a smart meter for gas / electric. "Smart Meters" would be controlled via mobile network (I don't have one either), hence the recent furore about energy suppliers changing customers onto pre-payment terms without their consent, those who have smart meters anyway. Otherwise a physical change of meter would be required, which would require a warrant in order to enter the property. (I'm now starting to wonder why some of my neighbours have had their gas meters relocated to a box outside the property as part of 'gas mains pipe upgrades' in my area.) It is possible to send control signals via the mains electricity network - my previous property had Economy7 and a dual-phase meter, I raised a concern with my then-electricity supplier as the clock on the meter display was several hours out, and I was assured that wasn't important as a signal was sent through the mains to let the meter know when to switch between the day and night settings. On 1/27/2023 at 1:36 PM, ewok said: I had a smart water meter installed last year without my consent (done outside my house via the pavement - they just did it a few months after an 'inspection' that I quizzed them about, then sent me a letter telling me they had), and that doesn't need my phone to operate (and it's off / not connected to data / wifi most of the time), but maybe it's different for gas / electric smart meters? The water meters are different, I have one installed in my flat, it's not a 'smart' meter as such in that it doesn't connect to the internet or wi-fi, but it does periodically transmit a short range radio signal, which means that the meter reader can pick up the signal using a handheld receiver without physically entering your property. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 my water company can tell me how much water im using an hour. it has to have a sim card in too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Power cuts are ramping up, just like the WEF predicted; it’s already being called a “pandemic.” Pakistan claims hackers could be behind a grid failure that led to two days of nationwide blackouts. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakistan-power-outage-today-blackout-energy-crisis-economic-crisis/ Since September 2022 in South Africa scheduled blackouts have become routine, affecting every part of South African society. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/31/africa/south-africa-power-blackouts-intl-cmd/index.html Several States in the USA are experiencing outages, including Washington and Texas, affected by a ‘weather event’ and L.A., where airport terminals have lost power. https://www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-airport-power-outage-impacts-terminals-halts-tsa-line Incrementally, blackouts are becoming the new ‘norm’ for various reasons and already it is having a devastating impact. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 On 1/25/2023 at 1:38 AM, Mr Crabtree said: Are you going to switch off your power and get cash back from the National Grid? no i won't do it out of principle nor will i accept a smart meter or a 'smart' anything 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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