Macnamara Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 15 hours ago, The OC said: This is disturbing information, if any of this is true I plan on forwarding this to others who can bring attention to these communist atrocities. Please cite your sources, ideally primary or secondary sources. the person who wrote that article cites their sources in the article eg Mikhail Voslensky and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish Speaking at Moscow’s Jewish Museum, Russian president says politicians ‘were guided by false ideological considerations’ 19 June 2013, 7:17 pm Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the members of the first Soviet government were Jewish. “I thought about something just now: The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish,” Putin said June 13 during a visit to Moscow’s Jewish Museum and Tolerance Center. Putin was referencing the library of Rabbi Joseph I. Schneerson, the late leader of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement. The books, which are claimed by Chabad representatives in the United States, began being moved to the museum in Moscow this month. According to the official transcription of Putin’s speech at the museum, he went on to say that the politicians on the predominantly Jewish Soviet government “were guided by false ideological considerations and supported the arrest and repression of Jews, Russian Orthodox Christians, Muslims and members of other faiths. They grouped everyone into the same category. “Thankfully, those ideological goggles and faulty ideological perceptions collapsed. And today, we are essentially returning these books to the Jewish community with a happy smile.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) Matthew 7:18 “A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.” Matthew 7:20 Context 17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. MATTHEW CHAPTER 7 KJV (kingjamesbibleonline.org) Atrocities of Communism Communist ideology | Communist terror | Communist Crimes Communism is the soul of Judaism “The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism.” — (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 143-144). Robert Wilton, a longtime Russian news correspondent for the London Times, said in his book, The Last Days of the Romanovs: ”Out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik State, there were, in 1918-1919, 17 Russians… 457 Jews, and 82 others.” “Without Jews there would never have been Bolshevism. For a Jew nothing is more insulting than the truth. THE BLOODTHIRSTY JEWISH TERRORISTS HAVE MURDERED SIXTY SIX MILLION in Russia from 1918 to 1957.” ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Peace Prize Winner and Patriot. Remember, Not ALL Jews subscribe to these dangerous ideologies Protect the innocent! Both Jews and Gentiles. COMMUNISM AND EUROPEAN JEWRY - SMITH - 1949 - International Review of Mission - Wiley Online Library Edited March 31, 2023 by The OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Don't know for sure, but from what I read. Millions of Jews weren't murdered by the Nazis. Red Cross figures are in the hundreds of thousands. The camps were funded by the US as a way to export inflation - much like in globalisation. And were worker camps rather than death camps. Because they told a different story to this, they had the whole theatre of trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted April 4, 2023 Author Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr H said: Don't know for sure, but from what I read. Millions of Jews weren't murdered by the Nazis. Red Cross figures are in the hundreds of thousands. The camps were funded by the US as a way to export inflation - much like in globalisation. And were worker camps rather than death camps. Because they told a different story to this, they had the whole theatre of trials. Like Orthodox Christians, were Jews persecuted under Communism? Was Antisemitism openly practiced by Soviet officials? This is what I found so far; Quote However, the previous legacy of antisemitism was continued and furthered by the Soviet state, especially under Joseph Stalin. After 1948, antisemitism reached new heights in the Soviet Union, especially during the anti-cosmopolitan campaign, in which numerous Yiddish-writing poets, writers, painters and sculptors were arrested or killed. Antisemitism in the Soviet Union - Wikipedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, The OC said: Like Orthodox Christians, were Jews persecuted under Communism? Was Antisemitism openly practiced by Soviet officials? This is what I found so far; Do you think it might have been to get them to make aliyah? The PTB seem to have a habit of messing with Jewish people that are minding their own business and are happy with where they are. Similar things happened in Germany too before certain people came to power. Many Jewish people were happy there too. Edited April 4, 2023 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) @The OC It's interesting that the text that you quoted says 1948, and this says 1949: Maybe Stalin was persecuting Jewish people that didn't support Zionism as some of them don't believe in going to Israel until their messiah arrives. Edited April 4, 2023 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 9 hours ago, The OC said: Like Orthodox Christians, were Jews persecuted under Communism? Was Antisemitism openly practiced by Soviet officials? This is what I found so far; Absolutely. Most countries have been. Look at what the US did to the US citizens of Japanese origin during the war, or how they treated the Germans in the Rhine. With the Nazi case my point was, because we have been told many porky pies about it and because of allied involvement in the camps, and because we are the victors and can re write history, they made a theatre out of it. Victors don't really get punished. They're not going to punish themselves.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) "Self-Indulgent Historical Mythology: The Fantasy of Stalin's “Antisemitic Russian Nationalism” Matthew Raphael Johnson Johnstown, PA" "Almost without exception, American and western historians paint Stalin as both a “Russian nationalist” and an “Anti-Semite.” The latter especially is believed without question.".... ".... "The myth has been deliberately created. Jewish writers need the gentiles to believe that Hitler and Stalin were the same, lest they be forced to admit that Jews in the USSR slaughtered Christians. By claiming that Stalin was anti-Jewish, they can blunt this claim and argue that the Jews were also targeted. The fact is that the USSR was largely Jewish, based far more on Jewish ethnic identity than Marxism (and certainly had nothing to do with labor). Stalin continued this trend and backed Jewish ethnic interests indirectly throughout his life.".... https://www.rusjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Myths_Stalin.pdf Edited April 4, 2023 by novymir 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted April 13, 2023 Author Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) Fact Fake or Opinion? Crimes against humanity under communist regimes - Wikipedia Crimes against humanity under communist regimes occurred during the 20th century, including forced deportations, massacres, torture, forced disappearances, extrajudicial killings, terror,[1] ethnic cleansing, enslavement and the deliberate starvation of people i.e. during the Holodomor and the Great Leap Forward. Additional events included the use of genocide, conspiracy to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide. Such events have been described as crimes against humanity. Nowadays, some people argue that the people responsible for those crimes are no longer with us. "There is a theory and practice in international relations which regards the recognition and acceptance of a newly created sovereign state by other states, based on a perceived historical relationship the new state has with a prior state." Succession of states - Wikipedia For example, "One of the constituent republics of the USSR, the Russian Federation has declared itself to be "the continuator state of the USSR" on the grounds that it contained 51% of the population of the USSR and 77% of its territory." Should inheritance of land be the only determining factor? What about the continuation of communist ideology and policies? To whitewash their crimes, did the communists from the Former Soviet Union just give themselves new titles, and new uniforms and are now exempt from atrocities they may have taken part in? communism rebranded - Google Search Source Bühler, Konrad G. (2001). State Succession and Membership in International Organizations. Legal Aspects of International Organization Series. Vol. 38. Martinus Nijhoff Publishers. pp. 161–4. ISBN 9789041115539. "In the age when torture has become "enhanced interrogation techniques"; when the rich are "job creators"; when murdered children are "collateral damage"; it is good to remember these brilliant words from the late, great, George Carlin. It is also good to remember that the phrase "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder" has now been officially changed in American English to "PTSD", a totally lifeless non-threatening acronym, totally devoid of even pity and with an almost whiny feel to it." Edited April 13, 2023 by The OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) Christos Anesti Χριστός Ανέστη Petros Gaitanos & Byzantine Choir. - YouTube “The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.” - Gandhi This is happening in every major city around the world! ‘The Great Reset’ is an idea put forward by the World Economic Forum to fundamentally restructure the global economy in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic. David Ansara of the CRA speaks with author, Douglas Kruger, about the ideological underpinnings of the 'Davos agenda' and the risk it poses to property rights. “You will OWN NOTHING, and you will be HAPPY” | Douglas Kruger - YouTube This book is sold on Amazon for $2,355.22 used Read it here for free: Extracted from the public domain Red Cocaine: The Drugging of America and the West, where communist defector General Jan Sejna described in detail how the Soviet ☭ and Chinese Leninists ★ hijacked drug trafficking in the 1950s in order to use it as a weapon in the ongoing war waged against The West. "Dedicated to All who have lost a friend or a loved one to the evil scourge of drugs. It is high time to fight back." FACT, FAKE, OR OPINION? The open border and fentanyl epidemic is a declaration of war. China & Russia took over the drug trade in the 1960s. Through Cuban DGI they established Latin America drug trafficking. US Drug Epidemic: Soviet Warfare Against the West - Part 1 (substack.com) Most Dangerous Cities in the World (2022) Deadliest & Most Violent - Armormax Highest Drug Use By City | American Addiction Centers Tent City Drugs - News by Christopher Story (Author), Joseph D. Douglass (Author), Ray S. Cline (Author) Which of the three authors made reference to the 'satanic' and why would they do that, for dramatic purposes or was there any truth to these claims? "The narco-war is based upon a satanic strategy envisaged by Lenin and developed under Stalin by ..." (pg.2) "... following the strategic adjustment completed in 1991 when the Communist strategists switched to pursuing their manic World Revolutionary objectives through covert Communism and a 'new form' of reversible 'state-controlled capitalism' - working, as Lenin taught his 'illuminated' followers, 'by other means'." (pg.4) "The self-evidently satanic nature of this programme should come as no surprise: after all, Marx became a satanist in his late teens[2] ; Lenin is known to have attended at least one satanic event ('black mass') on the island of Capri; and Stalin (and of course the 'national' socialist, Hitler) were preoccupied almost exclusively with the agenda of the inhabitants of 'the bottomless pit' - death." (pg.9) References: 2. See Was Marx a Satanist? 'Rev. Richard Wurmbrand, Diane Books Publishing Co., Glendale, CA, 1976-77. Isaiah 14:12 “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” (KJV) "Yuri Bezmenov is a name few Americans seem familiar with today. Mr. Bezmenov was a Soviet informant and KGB operative who defected to the United States in the early 70s. In an increasingly difficult to find 1984 interview with G. Edward Griffin titled “Deception Was My Job”, he laid out the four stages of “ideological subversion” created by ☭ radical Marxists ★ to indoctrinate and weaken nations from within." FULL INTERVIEW with Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion (1984) - YouTube Edited April 22, 2023 by The OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, The OC said: Yuri Bezmenov is a name few Americans part of his interview is in a video game called Call of duty,so youngsters have hear of him,i would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted April 22, 2023 Author Share Posted April 22, 2023 This book is sold on Amazon for $2,355.22 used So what! The Holy Bible time and again is given as a free gift. And yet we still do not listen, nor do we appreciate it. John 10:8 Context 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them. 7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. We seek "The Truth" in areas we want to be true, but "The Truth" can only be found in Him. John 14:6 Context 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 4And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know. 5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. 8Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? "Is there a name for the logical fallacy that more expensive goods must be better than less expensive alternatives? Oftentimes people make this assumption without looking at the actual design or quality. First example: High-octane gas. Some people mistakenly think the more expensive gas is better quality. But really the higher octane's primary purpose is to allow the gas to compress more without exploding, as you need in certain high-compression engines. Second: Audio/video cables. People (audiophiles) spend a ton of money on Monster cables and other "premium" A/V products. Sometimes there is a notable difference but so often their money is wasted on extra copper or shielding that really has no effect on signal quality. The name of the fallacy is appeal to wealth or argumentum ad crumenam." single word requests - Name that fallacy: If it's more expensive it must be better - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange An appeal to wealth (argumentum ad crumenam) occurs when more money involved means something is truer or better, exploiting the impression that money flows from intelligence or work. Source: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Appeal_to_money Are these sources reliable? How do we know this information (data, testimony) is accurate? So how do you determine if a source is reliable? 1st - Check your reasoning >> Wheel of Reason (criticalthinking.org) DISCERN FOR YOURSELF: Do your own research, weigh the pros and cons. Learn to compare and contrast theories which are bullshit to ones which are real. Do a self-assessment and try to discover some common barriers to critical thinking. Read the following; Primary source See also primary source Primary sources are very close to the origin of a particular topic, issue or situation being written about. Examples of primary sources include archeological artifacts; photographs; historical documents such as diaries, census results, video or transcripts of surveillance, public hearings, or trials; tabulated results of surveys or questionnaires; written or recorded notes of laboratory and field research, experiments or observations, published experimental results by the person(s) actually involved in the research; original philosophical works, religious scripture, administrative documents, and artistic and fictional works.[1][2] Any source cannot be anything but a primary source for a Wikipedia article that has that source as its main topic.[3] Secondary source See also secondary source A secondary source is at least one step removed from the described topic. Secondary sources are reports that draw on research and other references to make interpretive, analytical or synthesized claims.[4][5][6] Depending on the field, secondary sources may include textbooks, review articles, and peer-reviewed articles publishing original research. Secondary sources are best used for representing significant points of view.[7] Tertiary source See also tertiary source Tertiary sources are publications such as encyclopedias or other compendia that sum up many secondary[7] and primary sources. Many introductory textbooks may also be considered tertiary to the extent they sum up widely accepted results of large amounts of primary and secondary sources. Understand Your... Point of View Point of view is literally “the place” from which you view something. It includes what you are looking at and the way you are seeing it. Make sure you understand the limitations of your point of view and that you fully consider other relevant viewpoints. Questions to check your point of view How am I looking at this situation? Is there another way to look at it that I should consider? What exactly am I focused on? And how am I seeing it? Is my view the only reasonable view? What does my point of view ignore? Have you ever considered the way ____(Japanese, Muslims, South Americans, etc.) view this? Which of these possible viewpoints makes the most sense given the situation? Am I having difficulty looking at this situation from a viewpoint with which I disagree? What is the point of view of the author of this story? Do I study viewpoints that challenge my personal beliefs? Argument by Selective Reading (logicallyfallacious.com) Description: When a series of arguments or claims is made and the opponent acts as if the weakest argument was the best one made. This is a form of cherry picking and very similar to the selective attention fallacy. Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally.[2] Divide & Rule It seems there's more profit and power to be made when people are divided. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) The final lockdown. "Let's also note that the principle goal of the Leninist strategy of using terrorism, is not just to do the harm that the terrorists do to people and physical property, but to get the target government to respond in a tyrannical way." - William Mcilhany in conversation with Christopher Story (51:23) Edited April 23, 2023 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Lithuanian MPs want to declare the Communist Party a criminal organization Photo: Unsplash The ruling conservative party of Lithuania wants the Lithuanian Communist Party to be recognized as a criminal organization, writes LRT. The State Security Committee (VDK) and the People’s Commissariat of Internal Affairs (NKVD) have already been recognized as criminal organizations. Homeland Union-Lithuanian Christian Democrats (HU-LCD) believe that the Communist Party of Lithuania should also be added to the list, as it was the body that organized the strengthening of the Soviet occupation policy in the country. According to the proposal, all high-ranking members of the Communist Party who were active before 1990 would have to list their ties to the Soviet regime in their biographies if they wanted to run for office. HU-LCD MP Audronius Ažubalis said: «WE MUST KNOW WHO THE MASTERS, THE INSPIRERS, AND THE ORGANIZERS OF ALL THESE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN LITHUANIA WERE.» Historian Regina Statkuvienė said that the initiative is important but late. Social Democrat Julius Sabatauskas also noted that the proposal is late, because many of the members of the Communist Party are no longer among the living or have long ceased to be active in politics. A few years before the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Communist Party of Lithuania announced its separation from the Communist Party of the USSR. Dainius Žalimas, Dean of the Law Faculty of Vytautas Diža University, said: «There are no objective grounds for declaring the independent Communist Party of Lithuania, founded in 1989, a criminal party. On the contrary, its members voted in favor of the 11th of March Act.» The promoters of the initiative, meanwhile, point out that it is not too late, because the modern version of communism is reborn in Russia today. However, according to Žalimas, modern Russia cannot be equated only with communism – its ideology is based on a combination of Nazism and communism. According to him, it would be much more important to identify persons who have been involved in various neo-Nazi and pro-Kremlin organizations since 2000. Read the full article here: https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1936986/needed-but-overdue-mps-want-communist-party-of-lithuania-labelled-criminal-organisation Edited April 25, 2023 by The OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 Slovenian government cancels remembrance day for communism victims By Sebastijan R. Maček Slovenian government cancels remembrance day for communism victims – EURACTIV.com 5 Days Ago The decision by the current government was expected given that the Social Democrats (SD), the junior coalition partners, said last week that the decree should be repealed since it is "mostly about revisionism and does nothing to reconcile the people." [Shutterstock/nordantin] The government revoked a decree that served as the legal basis for the commemoration just hours before Slovenia was due to mark National Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Communist Violence on Wednesday, triggering sharp criticism from the right and talk of a ‘new civil war’. In a brief statement after a correspondence session, the Robert Golob government said that the memorial day had been declared without a “public and expert debate”. The national memorial day was declared by the Janez Janša government by decree on 12 May 2022, just days before its term ended, with the reasoning being that communist violence left thousands dead on Slovenian soil between 1941 and 1946 while affecting hundreds of thousands more in the subsequent decades of communist rule. The date was picked in memory of the killing of 49 people, including 44 Roma, in the Iška Gorge, south of Ljubljana, in 1942. The declaration of memorial day was met with criticism on the left, which argued at the time that the underlying desire was to embroil the nation in an endless culture war. The decision by the current government was expected given that the Social Democrats (SD), the junior coalition partners, said last week that the decree should be repealed since it is “mostly about revisionism and does nothing to reconcile the people.” Janša, president of the Democrats, decried the government decision as “abhorrent” and said it amounted to “an announcement of a new civil war” and an “insult to all those who have at least a shred of sympathy for fellow humans.” He accused the government of rehabilitating communist crimes and annulling “exceptional reconciliation efforts by a generation that made Slovenia democratic and independent.” The government is “once again ready to fill pits and mining shafts with those who think differently,” he said in reference to mass graves of opponents of communism who were killed after the Second World War. The Freedom Movement, the party of Prime Minister Golob, denounced Janša’s comments as a call to violence and renewed divisions and intolerance. (Sebastijan R. Maček | sta.si) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) On 4/22/2023 at 11:30 PM, The OC said: This book is sold on Amazon for $2,355.22 used Edited June 7, 2023 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: On 3/11/2023 at 11:06 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: Some interesting links from @antisovietkgb's Gab page: Hybrid Warfare Mexican President Lopez Obrador has threatened to launch an "information campaign" in the U.S. against Republicans, telling Mexicans and Hispanics not to vote for them unless U.S. lawmakers change their stance towards Mexico over fentanyl https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mexican-president-threatens-information-campaign-to-tell-mexicans-hispanics-not-vote-republican There are more Russian GRU agents in Mexico than in any other country, top US general says https://www.businessinsider.com/most-russian-gru-spies-in-mexico-says-top-us-general-2022-4 Iran To Station Warships in Panama Canal https://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-to-station-warships-in-panama-canal/ Venezuela Empties Prisons, Sends Violent Criminals to U.S. Border, Says DHS Report https://www.breitbart.com/border/2022/09/18/exclusive-venezuela-empties-prisons-sends-violent-criminals-to-u-s-says-dhs-report/ Venezuela’s leader pledges military cooperation with Russia https://apnews.com/article/europe-russia-venezuela-vladimir-putin-south-america-fc9e01895f52f8d9f52e501a93b2f089 Venezuela advocates multipolar world, renewed UN system http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-09/22/c_139387291.htm Venezuelan generals create drug empire https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/03/cartel-suns-venezuelas-maduro-generals-allegedly-built-huge/ It found that while 70% to 80% of fentanyl that federal authorities seized between roughly 2014 to 2019 had come from China fentanyl and synthetic opioids accounted for roughly two-thirds of the more than 100,000 deaths in the US from drug overdoses https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/politics/fentanyl-commission-report/index.html Agreement Between the Government of Canada and the Government of the People's Republic of China allows arms trafficking https://www.international.gc.ca/trade-commerce/trade-agreements-accords-commerciaux/agr-acc/china-chine/fipa-apie/index.aspx?lang=eng Chinese Military Like Soldiers Train on Salt Spring Island, Canada https://youtu.be/3bnWoZg_L1E China operating extrajudicial police stations in Canada https://tnc.news/2022/09/22/china-police-stations/ Chinese police station in New York https://news.yahoo.com/china-opened-overseas-police-stations-154545452.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAK_yoWhP1JsaIxIdCzHPZmY0II-ANUN1JGNfkFPBs8JCnIig0PLzeB2XiXkfUnXHiG8ao5bVJ1113pFBSdwMfXZK6GW_XlwLuvIUO39Ztr-Yvejfbh0dt2kvuEdiZmmDrrtiHSuIQJOGSkh9aYqHiIqYvPsBkTPw5uU7yWH5BOcC Justin Trudeau invited China's People's Liberation Army to train troops in Canada https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9042261/Top-secret-documents-reveal-Justin-Trudeau-invited-Chinas-PLA-train-troops-Canada.html Federal operation nabs nearly 43,000 illegal gun silencers shipped from China https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/illegal-gun-silencers-china-rcna28505 How Cuba Helped Make Venezuela a Mafia State https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-cuba-helped-make-venezuela-a-mafia-state The Cuban Connection : Drug Trafficking and the Castro Regime https://scholarship.miami.edu/esploro/outputs/journalArticle/The-Cuban-Connection--Drug-Trafficking/991031447739002976 Castro's Show Trials Do Not Mean an End to Cuba's Drug Trade https://www.heritage.org/americas/report/castros-show-trials-do-not-mean-end-cubas-drug-trade How Israeli Firearms Fall Into the Hands of Mexican Drug Cartels https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/tech-news/2020-12-09/ty-article/.premium/how-israeli-firearms-fall-into-the-hands-of-mexican-drug-cartels/0000017f-e321-d7b2-a77f-e3278c0d0000 Israeli Arms Went to Columbian Cartel https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1990/05/0 On 3/12/2023 at 1:32 PM, EnigmaticWorld said: I forgot about Volkow. It adds more weight to the links that @antisovietkgb shared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 9:40 AM, The OC said: Slovenian government cancels remembrance day for communism victims By Sebastijan R. Maček Slovenian government cancels remembrance day for communism victims – EURACTIV.com 5 Days Ago The decision by the current government was expected given that the Social Democrats (SD), the junior coalition partners, said last week that the decree should be repealed since it is "mostly about revisionism and does nothing to reconcile the people." [Shutterstock/nordantin] The government revoked a decree that served as the legal basis for the commemoration just hours before Slovenia was due to mark National Day of Remembrance for the Victims of Communist Violence on Wednesday, triggering sharp criticism from the right and talk of a ‘new civil war’. In a brief statement after a correspondence session, the Robert Golob government said that the memorial day had been declared without a “public and expert debate”. The national memorial day was declared by the Janez Janša government by decree on 12 May 2022, just days before its term ended, with the reasoning being that communist violence left thousands dead on Slovenian soil between 1941 and 1946 while affecting hundreds of thousands more in the subsequent decades of communist rule. The date was picked in memory of the killing of 49 people, including 44 Roma, in the Iška Gorge, south of Ljubljana, in 1942. The declaration of memorial day was met with criticism on the left, which argued at the time that the underlying desire was to embroil the nation in an endless culture war. The decision by the current government was expected given that the Social Democrats (SD), the junior coalition partners, said last week that the decree should be repealed since it is “mostly about revisionism and does nothing to reconcile the people.” Janša, president of the Democrats, decried the government decision as “abhorrent” and said it amounted to “an announcement of a new civil war” and an “insult to all those who have at least a shred of sympathy for fellow humans.” He accused the government of rehabilitating communist crimes and annulling “exceptional reconciliation efforts by a generation that made Slovenia democratic and independent.” The government is “once again ready to fill pits and mining shafts with those who think differently,” he said in reference to mass graves of opponents of communism who were killed after the Second World War. The Freedom Movement, the party of Prime Minister Golob, denounced Janša’s comments as a call to violence and renewed divisions and intolerance. (Sebastijan R. Maček | sta.si) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Barin Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 A large is more needed for the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teardropexplodes Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Also, as a side note, if we were told fascism was evil, why were there no fascists at Nuremberg? The National Socialists were quite sniffy towards fascism due to its lack of racialism. A quote from Mussolini in 1932: " Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today." This is because it's generally Socialists who are obsessed with race. Fascism was quite innocuous compared with communism. I'd much rather have lived in fascist Italy or Spain than Soviet Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted June 19, 2023 Author Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) On 6/8/2023 at 6:20 AM, Teardropexplodes said: Also, as a side note, if we were told fascism was evil, why were there no fascists at Nuremberg? The National Socialists were quite sniffy towards fascism due to its lack of racialism. A quote from Mussolini in 1932: " Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today." This is because it's generally Socialists who are obsessed with race. Fascism was quite innocuous compared with communism. I'd much rather have lived in fascist Italy or Spain than Soviet Russia. Let's try to stay on topic, Fascism and Nazism are for another discussion Italian war crimes - Wikipedia Italy: Why Meloni Keeps Her Mussolini Heritage Locked Up - The Globalist See also Italian Fascism Italian Fascism and racism Italian racial laws Anti-Italianism Axis war crimes in Italy The Holocaust in Italy Internment of Italian Americans Italian Civil War List of war crimes List of war crimes committed during World War II Allied war crimes during World War II British war crimes German war crimes Japanese war crimes Soviet war crimes United States war crimes Military history of Italy Edited June 19, 2023 by The OC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 The 6 Million Forgotten Victims (1945-48) S.V. Shumilo writes the following in his 1997 book "Советский режим и Cоветская церковь [Soviet regime and the Soviet church]": On the whole, inspired by the Communist dictator [Stalin], the pre-Yalta action which was held under the banner of the “Local Council” [of the "Moscow Patriarchate" in 1945] was successful and brought the regime the desired results. During the course of the Yalta Conference, Stalin secured essential concessions on the question of the preliminary division of Europe and on the forcible repatriation (“return”) to the USSR of prisoners of war (who were declared by Stalin’s regime as traitors and betrayers simply because they were taken prisoner by the Germans – Order No. 26 September 1941), migrants, and many others. As a result of this decision (up until 1948) with the help of bayonets, automatic rifles and rubber truncheons, there were some 6 million “Soviet” immigrants – Russians, Ukrainians, Belo-russians, Baltic peoples, Poles and other nationalities – who were repatriated from Europe, America and Australia - the majority of these perished in Stalin’s prisons and concentration camps. Practically all of the European nations participated in this crime against humanity. Tragedies occurred in camps at Kempten, Dachau, Platling and Badaibling (Germany); Rimin, Piza (Italy); Ravensburg and Vangen (France); Yudenburg and Lienz (Austria); in North Africa, Denmark, Norway and other countries. Even neutral Switzerland sullied itself by forcibly deporting internees and refugees from the USSR. So as not to fall into the hands of the NKVD, many of those who were to be repatriated (men, women, and children), went on hunger strikes or else committed suicide by slicing the main arteries on their necks or hands with razor blades or broken glass; they disemboweled themselves, while others drowned themselves or jumped from the fast moving trains which were taking them back to the USSR. Attempting to avert mass suicides and the possible breakdown in the Yalta talks, the English and American troops in charge of the unarmed and trusting “White Cossacks”, “Vlasovites” and other anti-Soviet groups - who had voluntarily went over to the side of Western democracy - were in convoys forcibly handed over to the Soviet tribunal. In Lienz, with the aid of automatic weaponry and truncheons, 70 thousand White Cossacks that migrated to Europe in the 1920s were forcibly repatriated. The betrayal of the Cossacks at Lienz (1945) The same method of intimidation was applied to thousands of their wives and children, who after refusing to voluntarily repatriate to the USSR, were attacked by the English soldiers applying bats, rifle-butts and even flame-throwers. Hundreds of wives threw themselves and their children under English tanks that were enforcing the repatriation, in the hope that this may stop it. Others threw themselves and their children into the river Drav while others cut their throats. This terror was so barbarous that one Major, having witnessed it, lost his mind. The next day saw the English soldiers joining the Communist forces on a hunt for those survivors who fled into the hills – the overall number of victims was 150... Analogical scenes were unfolding in all of the other camps for prisoners of war, immigrants, workers and refugees. This is what the American military newspaper “Stars and Stripes” wrote in their issue of the 23rd of January 1946 about the tragedy in Dachau (Bavaria): “Dachau, 22.01.46. – Afraid of returning to the country they had betrayed, the Russian prisoners of war fought like beasts so as to self-destruct… Ten individuals committed suicide during a battle with the guards. Another one died in the hospital some time later (they wanted to “edify” and stop the Americans and with this, to save the rest - author.) Twenty other people wounded themselves seriously, but at this moment they are recovering. When the guards burst into the barracks of the Russians who were subject to return to their Russian Fatherland, two of them were attempting to slay themselves with broken glass. Two others slashed one another’s throat. Another Russian stuck his head out of a broken window and rotated his head against the jagged glass until his throat was slashed. The American soldiers stated that these scenes were completely inhuman. At that moment, these were not human beings but berserk animals. The Americans began to swiftly cut the ropes on which many successfully hung themselves. However, those who regained consciousness began to cry out in Russian and pointing to the guards’ rifles asked to be shot on the spot. When attempts were made to help and send them to the hospital, they refused all efforts to save their lives. One of them struck his chest with a knife and seemed to die. They threw him on a stretcher and carried him to a truck, but he suddenly jumped up and began to flee. With every movement a stream of blood flowed from the wound. The military police couldn’t deal with him. Two of them broke their rifle butts against his head. Officials stated that when the prisoners of war were unable to kill themselves, they became rabid and were not themselves. The reason for such similar mass suicides was the unwillingness of the prisoners of war, workers, refugees, immigrants, and anti-Communists to return to an alien country*, where more cruel and inhuman mockery, torture and execution awaited them. [*This strikingly reveals how true Russians, as opposed to Soviet "Russians", hated the Soviet "Fatherland" - editor.] The killing of five “white” Generals can serve as an indication of such types of executions. They were Generals Peter Krasnov, Andrew Shkuro, Sultan Girey, Timothy Domanov and Semen Krasnov. These were handed over by the English to the Soviets in January of 1947. The Soviets then executed them in the courtyard of Leforto prison using an especially cruel method – they hung them with a sharp hook under the jaw. All of these crimes by the nations of “Western democracies”, which contradicted all common human and Christian principles of morality, as well as the Geneva Convention of 1929 regarding the treatment of prisoners of war, without any investigation or trial, were to gratify the “peacemaker” Stalin – all were happening just when the allied nations were triumphantly signing the decree (26.06.1945) and in the Nuremberg process (20.11.1945 – 01.10.1946), had judged the defeated Nazis for “the most heinous crimes against humanity...” Leaders of anti-Soviet opposition and the first wave of immigrants, the ROCOR Synod and others wrote memorandums to the governments of the Western nations, explaining the true situation in the USSR in the hopes of being understood and helped. There were collective letters sent to King George VI, to the League of Nations, to the International Red Cross, to the Archbishop of Canterbury, to President Roosevelt, to Rome’s Pope Pius XII, to Generals Eisenhower and De Gaulle. In order to block the overseas protests of immigrant religious leaders, the leadership of the "Moscow Patriarchate" was once again enlisted, who officially announced “the dirty slander, aimed at disrupting peaceful talks” between the USSR and her allies**. Yielding to the mendacious Soviet propaganda, the leaders of the Western nations attempted to resolutely carry out the Yalta agreement about the forceful deportation of the prisoners of war, workers, immigrants and refugees back to the USSR. [**Of course one courageous word of truth from the "Moscow Patriarchate" leaders could have saved the lives of these millions who were being "repatriated" and could also have averted the disaster of Stalin gaining control of Eastern Europe (as a result of which millions of Orthodox Christians, of various nationalities were destroyed by the new Communist governments which gained control of their homelands; but no such word was offered - editor.] Of all of the countries in the whole world, only one small (its area covered 157 square kilometers) but noble Principality of Lichtenstein categorically refused to hand over to the Soviets what was left of the General Holmston-Smilovsk army, granting them political refuge on its territory. Soviet military leaders threatened the Lichtenstein’s government with political and economic sanctions, to which the head of the Principality – A. Frik responded: “Well, that’s your affair, but I don’t want my grand-children to say one day that their grandfather was a murderer.” This was the tragic aftermath of the “Moscow Council” in 1945 for millions of people, because T. Roosevelt (USA) and W. Churchill (Great Britain) were indeed greatly influenced by their belief in Stalin’s “democratic image” and signed his proposal. For handling the “Council” so successfully, NKVD Major-General Karpov was decorated with the highest government award, the “Order of Lenin”. Likewise, "Patriarch" Alexis and other participants of the “Council” were amply rewarded. Soon after the Council, on the 10th of April 1945, Stalin personally met with Alexis. At the meeting, apart from Stalin, were the People’s Commissar of Foreign Affairs V. M. Molotov, the "MP" Metropolitan Nicholas (Yarushevich) who was soon to become President of the new Department of (i.e. international) External Church Relations, and Protopriest N. Kolchitsky who was a specialist on questions of international relations. Concerning this meeting "Patriarch Alexis" stated: “...While there is complete elation to be face to face with him, whose name alone is pronounced with love, and not only in every corner of our country but in all freedom-loving and peace-loving nations, we express our gratitude to Joseph Visarionovich [Stalin]... The talk was a completely unrestrained conversation of a father with his children.” A new monument of Stalin which was established on February 1, 2023, in Volgograd and just 120 meters from the monument to the victims of political repression! Flowers at a Moscow monument to Stalin (March, 2023) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Well poisoners would have you believe that this depiction of the soldier with a dove is some kind of Nazi tyrant, but the reality is that he is dressed like an eastern communist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The OC Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 11:14 PM, The OC said: Christos Anesti Χριστός Ανέστη Petros Gaitanos & Byzantine Choir. - YouTube “The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.” - Gandhi This is happening in every major city around the world! ‘The Great Reset’ is an idea put forward by the World Economic Forum to fundamentally restructure the global economy in the wake of the Covid-19 pandemic. David Ansara of the CRA speaks with author, Douglas Kruger, about the ideological underpinnings of the 'Davos agenda' and the risk it poses to property rights. “You will OWN NOTHING, and you will be HAPPY” | Douglas Kruger - YouTube This book is sold on Amazon for $2,355.22 used Read it here for free: Extracted from the public domain Red Cocaine: The Drugging of America and the West, where communist defector General Jan Sejna described in detail how the Soviet ☭ and Chinese Leninists ★ hijacked drug trafficking in the 1950s in order to use it as a weapon in the ongoing war waged against The West. "Dedicated to All who have lost a friend or a loved one to the evil scourge of drugs. It is high time to fight back." FACT, FAKE, OR OPINION? The open border and fentanyl epidemic is a declaration of war. China & Russia took over the drug trade in the 1960s. Through Cuban DGI they established Latin America drug trafficking. US Drug Epidemic: Soviet Warfare Against the West - Part 1 (substack.com) Most Dangerous Cities in the World (2022) Deadliest & Most Violent - Armormax Highest Drug Use By City | American Addiction Centers Tent City Drugs - News by Christopher Story (Author), Joseph D. Douglass (Author), Ray S. Cline (Author) Which of the three authors made reference to the 'satanic' and why would they do that, for dramatic purposes or was there any truth to these claims? "The narco-war is based upon a satanic strategy envisaged by Lenin and developed under Stalin by ..." (pg.2) "... following the strategic adjustment completed in 1991 when the Communist strategists switched to pursuing their manic World Revolutionary objectives through covert Communism and a 'new form' of reversible 'state-controlled capitalism' - working, as Lenin taught his 'illuminated' followers, 'by other means'." (pg.4) "The self-evidently satanic nature of this programme should come as no surprise: after all, Marx became a satanist in his late teens[2] ; Lenin is known to have attended at least one satanic event ('black mass') on the island of Capri; and Stalin (and of course the 'national' socialist, Hitler) were preoccupied almost exclusively with the agenda of the inhabitants of 'the bottomless pit' - death." (pg.9) References: 2. See Was Marx a Satanist? 'Rev. Richard Wurmbrand, Diane Books Publishing Co., Glendale, CA, 1976-77. Isaiah 14:12 “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” (KJV) "Yuri Bezmenov is a name few Americans seem familiar with today. Mr. Bezmenov was a Soviet informant and KGB operative who defected to the United States in the early 70s. In an increasingly difficult to find 1984 interview with G. Edward Griffin titled “Deception Was My Job”, he laid out the four stages of “ideological subversion” created by ☭ radical Marxists ★ to indoctrinate and weaken nations from within." FULL INTERVIEW with Yuri Bezmenov: The Four Stages of Ideological Subversion (1984) - YouTube “The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.” - Gandhi Victims of Communism The Global Drug Epidemic: Tent Cities Search Google Images and you'll discover most major cities around the world have a Tent City as a result of the opioid epidemic. The Global Drug Epidemic violates Article II (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (Read below) Red Cocaine: The Drugging of America and the West, where communist defector General Jan Sejna described in detail how the Soviet ☭ and Chinese Leninists ★ hijacked drug trafficking in the 1950s in order to use it as a weapon in the ongoing war waged against The West. Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide Doc.1_Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.pdf Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession by General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948 Entry into force: 12 January 1951, in accordance with article XIII The Contracting Parties , Having considered the declaration made by the General Assembly of the United Nations in its resolution 96 (I) dated 11 December 1946 that genocide is a crime under international law, contrary to the spirit and aims of the United Nations and condemned by the civilized world, Recognizing that at all periods of history genocide has inflicted great losses on humanity, and Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such an odious scourge, international co-operation is required, Hereby agree as hereinafter provided : Article I The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish. Article II In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Article III The following acts shall be punishable: (a) Genocide; (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide; (d) Attempt to commit genocide; (e) Complicity in genocide. Article IV Persons committing genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be punished, whether they are constitutionally responsible rulers, public officials or private individuals. Article V The Contracting Parties undertake to enact, in accordance with their respective Constitutions, the necessary legislation to give effect to the provisions of the present Convention, and, in particular, to provide effective penalties for persons guilty of genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III. Article VI Persons charged with genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III shall be tried by a competent tribunal of the State in the territory of which the act was committed, or by such international penal tribunal as may have jurisdiction with respect to those Contracting Parties which shall have accepted its jurisdiction. Article VII Genocide and the other acts enumerated in article III shall not be considered as political crimes for the purpose of extradition. The Contracting Parties pledge themselves in such cases to grant extradition in accordance with their laws and treaties in force. Article VIII Any Contracting Party may call upon the competent organs of the United Nations to take such action under the Charter of the United Nations as they consider appropriate for the prevention and suppression of acts of genocide or any of the other acts enumerated in article III. Article IX Disputes between the Contracting Parties relating to the interpretation, application or fulfilment of the present Convention, including those relating to the responsibility of a State for genocide or for any of the other acts enumerated in article III, shall be submitted to the International Court of Justice at the request of any of the parties to the dispute. Article X The present Convention, of which the Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish texts are equally authentic, shall bear the date of 9 December 1948. Article XI The present Convention shall be open until 31 December 1949 for signature on behalf of any Member of the United Nations and of any non-member State to which an invitation to sign has been addressed by the General Assembly. The present Convention shall be ratified, and the instruments of ratification shall be deposited with the Secretary-General of the United Nations. After 1 January 1950, the present Convention may be acceded to on behalf of any Member of the United Nations and of any non-member State which has received an invitation as aforesaid. Instruments of accession shall be deposited with the Secretary-General of the United Nations. Article XII Any Contracting Party may at any time, by notification addressed to the Secretary General of the United Nations, extend the application of the present Convention to all or any of the territories for the conduct of whose foreign relations that Contracting Party is responsible. Article XIII On the day when the first twenty instruments of ratification or accession have been deposited, the Secretary-General shall draw up a procès-verbal and transmit a copy thereof to each Member of the United Nations and to each of the non-member States contemplated in article XI. The present Convention shall come into force on the ninetieth day following the date of deposit of the twentieth instrument of ratification or accession. Any ratification or accession effected subsequent to the latter date shall become effective on the ninetieth day following the deposit of the instrument of ratification or accession. Article XIV The present Convention shall remain in effect for a period of ten years as from the date of its coming into force. It shall thereafter remain in force for successive periods of five years for such Contracting Parties as have not denounced it at least six months before the expiration of the current period. Denunciation shall be effected by a written notification addressed to the Secretary General of the United Nations. Article XV If, as a result of denunciations, the number of Parties to the present Convention should become less than sixteen, the Convention shall cease to be in force as from the date on which the last of these denunciations shall become effective. Article XVI A request for the revision of the present Convention may be made at any time by any Contracting Party by means of a notification in writing addressed to the Secretary General. The General Assembly shall decide upon the steps, if any, to be taken in respect of such request. Article XVII The Secretary-General of the United Nations shall notify all Members of the United Nations and the non-member States contemplated in article XI of the following: (a) Signatures, ratifications and accessions received in accordance with article XI; (b) Notifications received in accordance with article XII; (c) The date upon which the present Convention comes into force in accordance with article XIII; (d) Denunciations received in accordance with article XIV; (e) The abrogation of the Convention in accordance with article XV; (f) Notifications received in accordance with article XVI. Article XVIII The original of the present Convention shall be deposited in the archives of the United Nations. A certified copy of the Convention shall be transmitted to each Member of the United Nations and to each of the non-member States contemplated in article XI. Article XIX The present Convention shall be registered by the Secretary-General of the United Nations on the date of its coming into force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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