The Day The Music Died

[alexa]

 In 1936, the American Standards Association recommended that the A above middle C be tuned to 440 Hz.

The Universe frequency is 432Hz

This music with a frequency of 432 Hz will allow you to connect with the universe feeling the power of the creative source.

The 432hz frequency accompanies us to make the unconscious conscious to understand how we are creating our reality.

 

 

 

 

[sickofallthebollocks]

Nice little start to a thread Alexa, I'm not too clued up on this yet but have heard that they messed around with the recording of all music away from the natural universal frequency, changed from 432hz to 440hz, there is some software that can revert your music back to this frequency, I will look for the link, it's somewhere on this site (I think)
 

 

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by sickofallthebollocks

[sickofallthebollocks]

I couldn't find the link for the music transfer software, but I think this is it:





and another site here:
https://www.432hzconverter.com/

 

and another one (there's quite a few to choose from:
 

http://432hzmusic.org/convert-your-music-to-432hz/

 

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by sickofallthebollocks

[alexa]

Thanks for this @sickofallthebollocks Yes It's strange how music can effect your health, why did they have to change it ?

Evil Bastards 

[sickofallthebollocks]

7 minutes ago, alexa said:

Thanks for this @sickofallthebollocks Yes It's strange how music can effect your health, why did they have to change it ?

Evil Bastards 

Rhetorical statement there -  Evil bastards indeed.  This 432hz thing has really got me thinking, I will test it to see if there really is a difference (to my ear) and get back to this thread in due course.
I listen to a whole range of different types of music all the time - and in large doses, and often find it can be fatiguing to the ear, even with super duper posh expensive earbuds and when on outloud through a great sound system.  Maybe it's far more grating when played digitally. 
I don't remember feeling so worn out when playing vinyl as I do when listening to digital recordings.
But then I guess, the vinyl records were all recorded using the unnatural 440hz frequency too?

 

 

Edited January 19, 2023 by sickofallthebollocks

[sickofallthebollocks]

One more:

[webtrekker]

It's an incredibly small pitch change from 440 to 432 Hz. I'd imagine that unless you have perfect pitch then you won't even notice the difference.

 

 

 

[DaleP]

I've downloaded mp4 mostly. :(

[dfjkldoioi]

4 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

 there is some software that can revert your music back to this frequency, I will look for the link, it's somewhere on this site (I think)
 

You want some kind of pitch changing program like a DAW. something like "Audacity" should do

[dfjkldoioi]

2 hours ago, webtrekker said:

It's an incredibly small pitch change from 440 to 432 Hz. I'd imagine that unless you have perfect pitch then you won't even notice the difference.

 

 

 

Its not at all! its a huge jump in the semi tone and considering that all notes will be lowered inacordence. weather you notice it stright away or not dose not matter as in your subconcence is where it will all happen

[webtrekker]

1 hour ago, dfjkldoioi said:

Its not at all! its a huge jump in the semi tone and considering that all notes will be lowered inacordence. weather you notice it stright away or not dose not matter as in your subconcence is where it will all happen

 

 

 

 

 

[DaleP]

I had a spot of inspiration when I thought of 7.83Hz Shumann's frequency today.

I don't know what 7.83Hz sounds like as it is below the human hearing range but I thought about it anyway and your unconsious mind knows what it is.

 

Can I suggest an experiment if you've already installed the frequency changing programme?

Make a edit and leave left track as 440Hz and change the right track to 447.83 Hz. Play it and see if it sounds horrible or not.

You may not notice the difference but what it would do is to attune you to the Shumann's frequency while you enjoy the music of your choice.

If it doesn't sound too horrible then you get to enjoy the music and attune to the Earth at the same time.

Will it work?

 

Now the question is, do you have to listen to it using a pair of headphones or can it be played through speakers and get the same binural effect?

[gregory-peccary]

We've been here before but tonight I feel like repeating myself...

I play saxophone. When buying really old saxophones you have to be careful about what pitch they were made in.

Low Pitch is A = 440Hz.

High Pitch is A = 456Hz. Amusingly if you have a High Pitch sax and transpose it you can just about play in tune with an A= 432Hz instrument.

If the sax was made before 1920 be very careful of the Low Pitch / High Pitch problem. High Pitch saxes were made up until the mid 1930s but became increasingly rare. My 1925 Selmer sax is Low Pitch.

Note that 432Hz is nowhere to be seen!

 

Now for the boring history bit.

A tuning fork owned by Handel has A = 422.5Hz.

One owned by Beethoven had A = 455.4Hz.

Tuning was all over the place.

440Hz was used by some orchestras then in 1834 the Stuttgart conference agreed on A = 440Hz.

Verdi (1840s to 1901)  liked A =  432Hz, nobody else cared.

Eventually A = 440Hz became the modern international standard.

 

Very old pipe organs in churches tend to get sharp over time, the frequency of A increases because every 50  years or so the pipes have to be re-tuned. That means removing metal, that sharpens the tone.

etc and in ever more detail should you be interested.

Anyway A = 440Hz is  NOT a conspiracy.

[Puzzle]

I've been looking into this for a long time. The reason being, I feel like when I hear anything in 432Hz, it sounds out of tune to me!

 

Maybe because I'm so used to things being at 440Hz?! I haven't found anything else to explain why 432Hz would sound out of tune to me. Something about it doesn't sit right with me, dammed if I can figure out why though!

 

Interesting that the Schumann Resonance is named after someone with 'human' in the middle of his surname. Hmmm! Can't imagine that frequency is doing much for the planet when you've got GWEN towers everywhere. All these shit frequencies put out there by mental fucking men are surely going to affect the so called frequency we've been told is the Schumann Resonance.

 

I swear I don't believe fuck all anymore

 

[peter]

1 hour ago, gregory-peccary said:

We've been here before but tonight I feel like repeating myself...

I play saxophone. When buying really old saxophones you have to be careful about what pitch they were made in.

Low Pitch is A = 440Hz.

High Pitch is A = 456Hz. Amusingly if you have a High Pitch sax and transpose it you can just about play in tune with an A= 432Hz instrument.

If the sax was made before 1920 be very careful of the Low Pitch / High Pitch problem. High Pitch saxes were made up until the mid 1930s but became increasingly rare. My 1925 Selmer sax is Low Pitch.

Note that 432Hz is nowhere to be seen!

 

Now for the boring history bit.

A tuning fork owned by Handel has A = 422.5Hz.

One owned by Beethoven had A = 455.4Hz.

Tuning was all over the place.

440Hz was used by some orchestras then in 1834 the Stuttgart conference agreed on A = 440Hz.

Verdi (1840s to 1901)  liked A =  432Hz, nobody else cared.

Eventually A = 440Hz became the modern international standard.

 

Very old pipe organs in churches tend to get sharp over time, the frequency of A increases because every 50  years or so the pipes have to be re-tuned. That means removing metal, that sharpens the tone.

etc and in ever more detail should you be interested.

Anyway A = 440Hz is  NOT a conspiracy.

Exactly, this is an old thread anyway ,it has just been re-named,I said pretty much the same in the old one ,except the bit about the sax of course

Ah Utube  the sole authority of truth

Edited January 21, 2023 by peter

[peter]

23 hours ago, dfjkldoioi said:

Its not at all! its a huge jump in the semi tone and considering that all notes will be lowered inacordence. weather you notice it stright away or not dose not matter as in your subconcence is where it will all happen

Its actually .317 of a semitone,bugger all

[Not Thoth]

How do you know what an original song is tuned to? You might assume it's 440Hz and re-tune it to 432Hz but what if it was already 432 Hz and you've actually just re-tuned it to 424Hz?

[DaleP]

10 minutes ago, Not Thoth said:

How do you know what an original song is tuned to? You might assume it's 440Hz and re-tune it to 432Hz but what if it was already 432 Hz and you've actually just re-tuned it to 424Hz?

 

Yes, you have a point there.

[DaleP]

2 hours ago, gregory-peccary said:

We've been here before but tonight I feel like repeating myself...

I play saxophone. When buying really old saxophones you have to be careful about what pitch they were made in.

Low Pitch is A = 440Hz.

High Pitch is A = 456Hz. Amusingly if you have a High Pitch sax and transpose it you can just about play in tune with an A= 432Hz instrument.

If the sax was made before 1920 be very careful of the Low Pitch / High Pitch problem. High Pitch saxes were made up until the mid 1930s but became increasingly rare. My 1925 Selmer sax is Low Pitch.

Note that 432Hz is nowhere to be seen!

 

Now for the boring history bit.

A tuning fork owned by Handel has A = 422.5Hz.

One owned by Beethoven had A = 455.4Hz.

Tuning was all over the place.

440Hz was used by some orchestras then in 1834 the Stuttgart conference agreed on A = 440Hz.

Verdi (1840s to 1901)  liked A =  432Hz, nobody else cared.

Eventually A = 440Hz became the modern international standard.

 

Very old pipe organs in churches tend to get sharp over time, the frequency of A increases because every 50  years or so the pipes have to be re-tuned. That means removing metal, that sharpens the tone.

etc and in ever more detail should you be interested.

Anyway A = 440Hz is  NOT a conspiracy.

 

44 is death.

 

[peter]

5 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

44 is death.

 

why

[JCP]

On 1/19/2023 at 5:25 PM, webtrekker said:

It's an incredibly small pitch change from 440 to 432 Hz. I'd imagine that unless you have perfect pitch then you won't even notice the difference.

 

 

 

 

I originally had the same thought, but had to ask, "Why the change then"? From what I've found, it's less about how it sounds to the naked ear and more about how it makes you feel. Musically, 432hz resonates with the earths' Schumann Resonance of 7.83 – 8 Hz. 440hz does not. 432 Hz (8 Hz) makes us feel more calm and balanced; because it's in our DNA. We come from the Earth. We are part of the Earth. Regular listening to music tuned to 432hz has a re-connecting effect, as you gradually re-attune to the frequency of the Earth. It's about homeostasis or balance. A small change in frequency can have a big effect on us.

 

Quote

 

The A=432 Hz is known as Verdi’s ‘A’ – named after Giuseppe Verdi, the famous Italian composer. Verdi and many other musicians, like Mozart, tuned their music to 432 hz because they said it contained “feel good” properties that resonated with the audience.

 

The Stradivarius violins were tuned at 432 Hz and renowned for their superior sound. Also the majority of instruments unearthed from ancient Egyptian and Greek sites are tuned to A=432 Hz.

 

Could it be that over exposure to music at 440 Hz is dumbing us down, making us lethargic and even unhappy, maybe easier to manipulate?

Are we simply out of sync?

 

The Nazi regime used 440 Hz and experimented with other influential frequencies alongside it designed to assist in the control of people's minds. Joseph Goebbels, prime minister of propaganda for the Third Reich, and whose job was to spread the Nazi message, supposedly directed this mission.

 

There are many studies that have shown that 432 musical therapy has a healing effect that helps ease anxiety, bring down heart rate and blood pressure, and generally has a soothing effect vs 440hz.

 

https://www.binauralbeatsmeditation.com/432-hz-truth-behind-natures-frequency/#432_Hz_Conspiracy_Theories

 

 

If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. ~ Nikola Tesla

 

[gregory-peccary]

On 1/21/2023 at 1:29 AM, DaleP said:

 

44 is death.

 

 

On 1/21/2023 at 7:02 AM, peter said:

why

 

Well in Cantonese the word for '4' sounds a lot like the word for 'death'.

In Hong Kong people avoid owning cars with a 4 in the number plate.

As a biker I wanted a motorcycle with 444 in the number plate but never managed it.

Rode around on a 750 Kawasaki with the lads from The Wanch.

[peter]

7 hours ago, gregory-peccary said:

 

 

Well in Cantonese the word for '4' sounds a lot like the word for 'death'.

In Hong Kong people avoid owning cars with a 4 in the number plate.

As a biker I wanted a motorcycle with 444 in the number plate but never managed it.

Rode around on a 750 Kawasaki with the lads from The Wanch.

 

 

 

 

So it's just superstition then,this is a thread about music tuning and frequency and @DaleP makes the comment that 44 is death as if it holds some  ancient or hidden esoteric relevance.

I guess you could use the same analogy with regards to the English language when it comes to  feces & faces ,hence the colloquial  term  shit faced when you have one to many

Edited January 23, 2023 by peter

[Chris P]

Wasn't music generally digitally sampled at 44kHz for CD etc? This may go some way to explaining the change, if it makes calculations simpler.

Is there anything inherently special about the note A, in relation to the other notes played within the melody?

As far as I'm aware the decimal system isn't actually based on anything within nature? So for example the number 440 is completely unrelated to either 44 or 44000 (except for making calculations within our Human decimal system).

In terms of the musical scale, frequency doubles with each octave. So multiplying (or dividing) a frequency by 2, 4, 8 etc would change the octave. Each note further along on the piano multiplies frequency by approx 1.06 (a 6% increase).

Further info on piano pitch and frequency at

https://pressbooks.pub/sound/chapter/pitch-and-frequency-in-music/

[TheConsultant]

On 1/20/2023 at 8:05 PM, DaleP said:

I had a spot of inspiration when I thought of 7.83Hz Shumann's frequency today.

I don't know what 7.83Hz sounds like as it is below the human hearing range but I thought about it anyway and your unconsious mind knows what it is.

 

Can I suggest an experiment if you've already installed the frequency changing programme?

Make a edit and leave left track as 440Hz and change the right track to 447.83 Hz. Play it and see if it sounds horrible or not.

You may not notice the difference but what it would do is to attune you to the Shumann's frequency while you enjoy the music of your choice.

If it doesn't sound too horrible then you get to enjoy the music and attune to the Earth at the same time.

Will it work?

 

Now the question is, do you have to listen to it using a pair of headphones or can it be played through speakers and get the same binural effect?

Take an audible tone and pan hard left, take another 7.83Hz above or below and pan hard right, your brain will create a frequency of 7.83Hz. Its called a binaural beat, for headphones only. 

As for 432Hz to 440Hz, 440Hz actually sounds brighter and more exciting, orchestras often tune slightly sharper a little like bands play songs slightly faster live. As for its effects on human body I will let you look in to that yourself.