itsnotallrightjack Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Not working in Paris with their demographics. It's the same reason that Americans don't listen to Europeans when they ask why there is a lack of walkable cities in America. Most people don't want to walk around the south side of Chicago or Detroit. I would rather do the "innawoods" meme than be forced to live around ethnic conflict and people that my government is teaching to hate me. Yes, well I can understand that there are some neighbourhoods in American cities that people are not keen on walking around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 One thing you'll notice when progressives bring up walkable/15 min city ideas is Japan, but there's one thing that they don't mention about Japan too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris P Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 hours ago, Macnamara said: what if the cold areas and the warm areas of the earth move around? This would mean that at some point antarctica may have been inhabited Maybe there's evidence there of something they would rather remain hidden? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Campion Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 hours ago, Macnamara said: what if the cold areas and the warm areas of the earth move around? This would mean that at some point antarctica may have been inhabited There's continental drift which makes this plausible, although the timescales don't fit with human development. As well as alternative history of lost civilisations eg the story of a plane flying into a hole in Antarctica and seeing evidence of intelligent life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 32 minutes ago, Campion said: There's continental drift which makes this plausible, although the timescales don't fit with human development. The piri reis map shows the coastline of antarctica which is now covered by ice. This suggest that at some point in the past it wasn't and had been surveyed. LIDAR is now finding vast new settlements that had been part of the mayan civilisation in the jungle but did they build those in the jungle as orthodox historians suggest or was the climate in that area different at that time and in fact the area wasn't jungle at that point? Cave art in the sahara desert depicts people hunting animals in grassland suggesting that the area wasn't always desert. If you look at the remains of civilisations in the 'fertile crescent' and also in egypt it sometimes seems improbable that such resources could have been marshalled in such arid places but perhaps they weren't so arid at that time. Geologist Schlock has discussed the idea that actually there is water damage to the sphinx suggesting much wetter conditions in the past. we know that magnetic north migrates and hill walkers have to adjust their compass readings for 'declination'. If the earth 'wobbles' is it not possible that as it wobbles the areas of hot and cold on the earths surface shift around having profound implications for human civilisation on the earths surface? 32 minutes ago, Campion said: As well as alternative history of lost civilisations you don't even need to look into 'alternative history' to have your mind blown these days. In the americas archaeology looking at for example the 'clovis' culture is pushing back their perceptions of human habitation of the americas by thousands of years. The discovery of gobekli tepi in turkey is pushing back our perceptions of the age of 'civilisation' by thousands of years. Ooparts like the antikythera mechanism continue to confound orthodox expectations 32 minutes ago, Campion said: eg the story of a plane flying into a hole in Antarctica and seeing evidence of intelligent life. I'm not expecting any 'hole' to be found there full of nazis or aliens or whatever but there is the possibility that civilisation existed there before it was iced over as the climate moved around. Any discovery of such facts would of course turn orthodox ideas about the climate and about human history on its head and the globalists elites cannot allow that to happen as they have narratives about those they are trying to uphold 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: If you are referring to developing countries, well many of those haven't the infrastructure to use "smart devices." No electricity in large rural areas, some don't even have any currency ( for indigenous/traditional/hunter gatherer people). Nuances Of Aadhaar: India’s Digital Identity, Identification System And ID Jayshree Pandya Former Contributor COGNITIVE WORLD Contributor Group Introduction Identity, identification systems, and ID are evolving. As seen across nations, there is an intense effort going on to re-define national identity: who they are, where they belong, what their culture should be, and what they believe in as a nation. Simultaneously, efforts are also going on to define and design national IDs, including digital identity, identification systems, and IDs for all citizens. National identification systems are emerging rapidly, and the focus seems to be increasingly around digital identity systems and ID. The human ecosystem is on its way to expanding beyond cyberspace, aquaspace, geospace, and space (CAGS), and many countries and corporations are already making serious plans to establish colonies on the moon and beyond. At the same time, humans are also creating human-like machine intelligence, which will be embedded into human-like robots, drones, matter, and more. So, understandably, when there is a need for establishing identity and an identification system for all forms of intelligence (humans + algorithms), should not our efforts be on defining a single human identity and identification system, rather than those based on individual nations? https://www.forbes.com/sites/cognitiveworld/2019/07/16/nuances-of-aadhaar-indias-digital-identity-identification-system-and-id/?sh=1be135ee209d India to launch first ever digital currency in 2023: Report In the recent budget speech given by the Finance Minister, she announced that a ‘digital rupee’ is soon going to make a debut in the Indian market and will be backed by the central bank February 7, 2022 Digital currency in India is predicted to witness an exciting phase with the country launching its official digital currency in the upcoming year 2023. According to a government source, this currency will replicate the currently available private company-operated electronic wallets, along with a sovereign-backed facility. In the recent budget speech given by the Finance Minister, Shri. Nirmala Sitharaman, announced that a ‘digital rupee’ is soon going to make a debut in the Indian market and will be backed bythe central bank. A top government official also said, “the digital currency issued by the RBI would be numbered in units, just like every fiat currency has an unique number.” As per the RBI, the digital rupee should be ready by the end of FY23. It’s blockchain would be able to trace all the transactions made and is being developed by the RBI. Furthermore, just as one can use an electronic wallet backed by private companies and transfer money on his/her behalf to a merchant, in this case, If the money is transferred to the e-wallet of a private company, then credit risk of that company is also attached to the money besides charges levied by such companies, explained the official government source. https://indbiz.gov.in/india-to-launch-first-ever-digital-currency-in-2023-report/ Privacy concerns as India pushes digital health plan, ID: Reuters September 22, 2020 By Rina Chandran India’s government is using the coronavirus pandemic to push its plan to digitise the health records and data of its 1.3 billion people, despite concerns about privacy and increased surveillance, technology and human rights experts say. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/foreign-media/privacy-concerns-as-india-pushes-digital-health-plan-id-reuters/ 9 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: I do expect to see a big fall in the numbers of cars on the roads if the cost of living keeps rocketing. I don't know how people on minimum wages will be able to afford cars. Even public transport will be a struggle to afford. In the next 20-30 years large portions of Western countries' populations will be elderly and likely stuck at home/in care homes and going nowhere. cars will be made driverless and will run on 'smart' roads. You will not be allowed to own a car but if your social credit score allows you may be able to book one to make a journey however the AI that will run the 'internet of things' will decide where you are allowed to go. For example you may find you can't visit your favourite beauty spots as they have been re-allocated as 'rewilding zones'. Only the technocratic el-ites will have access to such areas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 14 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: It's too bloody freezing for much to be going on there! But I do sort of agree with your comment that the people of the world being the "toys" from the view point of elites. I think a more correct term is "servant." To them plebs exist to provide "services" like bin collection, cleaning, care of the aged, driving supplies/deliveries etc. they are working on changing that. The plebs will be replaced in menial tasks by artificial intelligence, robots, drones and other forms of automation. The unemployed masses will then be given 'universal basic income' by the state in he form of a digital currency on the condition that they comply with politically correct dictats for example that they are up to date with the full vaccine schedule. To act as a digital wallet and digital identity they will have to accept a microchip in their hand. With no further purpose in the world they will lose their bargaining power and become what the globalist el-ites call 'useless eaters' which have to be removed from existence to achieve their goals of a 90% reduction in the human population 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonfreeparty2 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2023 at 10:09 PM, Truthblast said: 4 is the number of the Freemasons. They are "SQUARES". Even their symbol looks like a woman standing with spread feet over a man lying underneath on his back with legs spread wide. Sexual problems? Submissive PSEUDO-MEN who only feel SAFE in the BROMANCE SAFESPACE of their STINKING INNER-CITY SKI LODGES? Confused HIVE MINDS who HATE HUMAN INDIVIDUALITY because they are TOO WEAK IN CHARACTER TO HAVE ANY AGENCY OF THEIR OWN? MINDLESS DRONES serving their BEE QUEEN who needs them to GO GET HONEY for HER? SATAN THE GENDER CONFUSED TRANSSEXUAL PSEUDO-GOD is their MASONIC "MOMMY"? MOMMY HORNS and the MINDLESS HONEY DRONES with their MICRO-DICK COVERING KITCHEN APRONS? Men TOO INTELLECTUALLY CHALLENGED and UNDERPOWERED IN THEIR MASCULINITY to REALIZE THAT FREEMASONRY is about BONDAGE and that there is no FREE ANYTHING in FREEMASONRY? A STUPID 3RD RATE SATANIC SOCIETY FROM THE SEWER OF HISTORY WHICH WOULD BE RIDICULOUS IN THE 21ST CENTURY IF THESE GENDER CONFUSED CRETINS DIDN'T LIE, CHEAT, STEAL, MURDER, HARRASS AND DAMAGE MODERN CIVILIZATION SO MUCH ON A DAILY BASIS? FAILED MEN who FALSELY POSE AS A SOCIETY OF BUILDERS but TRIED TO RUIN THE 21ST CENTURY BY HAVING OLIVE SKINNED MK-ULTRAS BRING DOWN THE LARGEST BUILDINGS IN THE WORLD WITH COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS? THERE ISN'T JUST BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. There is BLOOD ON THEIR TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL. Anyone who needs to SPY ON BILLIONS OF PEOPLE IS A WEAK-ASS DEGENERATE WHO CANNOT LIVE WITH OTHER PEOPLE HAVING A MIND AND CHARACTER OF THEIR OWN. FREEMASONRY IS ONE GREAT CLUSTERFUCK OF A LIE. AND THEIR LATTE SIPPING SILICON VALLEY TECHNOLOGY DRONES ARE THE SAME. LITTLE SISSY BOYS TOO WEAK TO GROW INTO RESPONSIBLE ADULT MEN. LOVE IT! COULDNT PUT IT BETTER MYSELF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2023 at 8:34 PM, Truthblast said: Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/5/2023 at 8:45 PM, sock muppet said: In other words they ran out of bullshit, and are just going to have to get along like the rest of the 99% by getting their hands dirty, because no ones listening any more and nobody has any fuks left to give, so get on with it grechy bumbag you transgender Rothschild sponsored product of horror and shut the fuk up already. Come on mate, out with it, you're not too keen on 'Greasy Furburger' are you? Even transgenders have a right to an opinion, I'm sure her heart is in in the right place and he's a nice lad really! He/she is only saying what it thinks is the right thing, and following it's controller's advice / orders! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 7 hours ago, Campion said: There's continental drift which makes this plausible, although the timescales don't fit with human development. As well as alternative history of lost civilisations eg the story of a plane flying into a hole in Antarctica and seeing evidence of intelligent life. @Campion can you do me a favour and put all the megalithic sites like the Pyramids, Stonehenge, Carnac, gobekli tepi....... etc, re-pleat with ley line infrastructure overlay, because it's something i have been wanting to do but since you have provided the template of what i'm on about it saves me the trouble because i'm lazy like that, cheers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 10 hours ago, Macnamara said: they are working on changing that. The plebs will be replaced in menial tasks by artificial intelligence, robots, drones and other forms of automation. The unemployed masses will then be given 'universal basic income' by the state in he form of a digital currency on the condition that they comply with politically correct dictats for example that they are up to date with the full vaccine schedule. To act as a digital wallet and digital identity they will have to accept a microchip in their hand. With no further purpose in the world they will lose their bargaining power and become what the globalist el-ites call 'useless eaters' which have to be removed from existence to achieve their goals of a 90% reduction in the human population Far into the future for robots/androids to have the manual dexterity and intricate movements of the human body! As for UBI- the elites don't even want to pay Unemployment benefits/welfare to people or "scroungers" as they see them. The Tories say "Work pays. Work harder if you want to be able to pay your bills." In America single unemployed people get nothing to live on at all! Thousands of homeless people are camping in tents ! There'll be no UBI in Britain or the USA. Removal of "useless eaters" in the distant future is more likely through sterilisation, so no more plebs are born. Edited January 7 by itsnotallrightjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 hours ago, Macnamara said: Nuances Of Aadhaar: India’s Digital Identity, Identification System And ID Jayshree Pandya Former Contributor COGNITIVE WORLD Contributor Group Introduction Identity, identification systems, and ID are evolving. As seen across nations, there is an intense effort going on to re-define national identity: who they are, where they belong, what their culture should be, and what they believe in as a nation. Simultaneously, efforts are also going on to define and design national IDs, including digital identity, identification systems, and IDs for all citizens. National identification systems are emerging rapidly, and the focus seems to be increasingly around digital identity systems and ID. The human ecosystem is on its way to expanding beyond cyberspace, aquaspace, geospace, and space (CAGS), and many countries and corporations are already making serious plans to establish colonies on the moon and beyond. At the same time, humans are also creating human-like machine intelligence, which will be embedded into human-like robots, drones, matter, and more. So, understandably, when there is a need for establishing identity and an identification system for all forms of intelligence (humans + algorithms), should not our efforts be on defining a single human identity and identification system, rather than those based on individual nations? https://www.forbes.com/sites/cognitiveworld/2019/07/16/nuances-of-aadhaar-indias-digital-identity-identification-system-and-id/?sh=1be135ee209d India to launch first ever digital currency in 2023: Report In the recent budget speech given by the Finance Minister, she announced that a ‘digital rupee’ is soon going to make a debut in the Indian market and will be backed by the central bank February 7, 2022 Digital currency in India is predicted to witness an exciting phase with the country launching its official digital currency in the upcoming year 2023. According to a government source, this currency will replicate the currently available private company-operated electronic wallets, along with a sovereign-backed facility. In the recent budget speech given by the Finance Minister, Shri. Nirmala Sitharaman, announced that a ‘digital rupee’ is soon going to make a debut in the Indian market and will be backed bythe central bank. A top government official also said, “the digital currency issued by the RBI would be numbered in units, just like every fiat currency has an unique number.” As per the RBI, the digital rupee should be ready by the end of FY23. It’s blockchain would be able to trace all the transactions made and is being developed by the RBI. Furthermore, just as one can use an electronic wallet backed by private companies and transfer money on his/her behalf to a merchant, in this case, If the money is transferred to the e-wallet of a private company, then credit risk of that company is also attached to the money besides charges levied by such companies, explained the official government source. https://indbiz.gov.in/india-to-launch-first-ever-digital-currency-in-2023-report/ Privacy concerns as India pushes digital health plan, ID: Reuters September 22, 2020 By Rina Chandran India’s government is using the coronavirus pandemic to push its plan to digitise the health records and data of its 1.3 billion people, despite concerns about privacy and increased surveillance, technology and human rights experts say. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/foreign-media/privacy-concerns-as-india-pushes-digital-health-plan-id-reuters/ Plans..plans-- we'll see if they are able to do it. Where will all this electricity come from? what if the internet goes down? There are millions of people in India living in rural isolated villages with no birth certificates, I.D, money or electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Far into the future for robots/androids to have the manual dexterity and intricate movements of the human body! they don't need manually dexterous robots to replace most people in their job roles. They simply need artificial intelligence to study humans as they do their jobs and then they can replicate it. AI can replace teachers in the classrooms, GP's, journalists, truck and van drivers, warehouse workers etc etc autonomous vehicles can replace soldiers on the battlefield. Many jobs are at threat when you think about it 4 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: As for UBI- the elites don't even want to pay Unemployment benefits/welfare to people or "scroungers" as they see them. The Tories say "Work pays. Work harder if you want to be able to pay your bills." In America single unemployed people get nothing to live on at all! no people living in tents ARE being subsidised by the state so that they don't need to do anything except sit around taking opoids Homeless woman gives brutally honest answer: She has a better handle on crisis than most Dem leaders By Peter Partoll, The Western Journal Published January 3, 2023 at 9:25pm A homeless woman has gone viral on Twitter for her rant about the root of the homelessness problem plaguing leftist-run cities across the country. On Saturday, Kevin Dahlgren, who runs the Seattle-based charity We Heart Seattle, posted a video on Twitter of his interaction with a homeless woman named Wendy, who berated the leftists running the city for the way that they've handled homelessness. According to her, the reason that the homelessness problem is not being solved by the left -- and is only getting worse -- is that the leftists are making it very easy to be homeless. “It’s a piece of cake … They feed you three meals a day. You don’t have to do s*** … You wake up, you go eat brunch, get high ... Go eat dinner, get high," Wendy told Dahlgren. “It’s a piece of cake…you get three meals a day and don’t have to do shit…wake up, eat get high, wake up eat get high” repeat. A homeless woman shared with me why it’s so easy to be homeless. She was brutally honest because she hates the enablement “They are loving us to death” pic.twitter.com/HxRUoSFFFu — Kevin Dahlgren (@kevinvdahlgren) December 31, 2022 Essentially Wendy says that the left is subsidizing this self-destructive lifestyle and encouraging people to remain homeless by giving them free food and drugs. There is absolutely no incentive for them to improve their lives if all their basic needs are provided by the government for free. For the past few years, leftist-run areas of the country have seen a sharp increase in homelessness, and liberal state and local governments have done next to nothing to solve the issue. Instead, they have decided to subsidize this lifestyle, leaving people mired in a perpetual cycle of poverty and dependence. https://www.wnd.com/2023/01/homeless-woman-gives-brutally-honest-answer-better-handle-crisis-blue-city-leaders/ 4 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Thousands of homeless people are camping in tents ! There'll be no UBI in Britain or the USA. Removal of "useless eaters" in the distant future is more likely through sterilisation, so no more plebs are born. i think the purpose of the covid jabs is to knock out large swathes of the population yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 11 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Plans..plans-- we'll see if they are able to do it. Where will all this electricity come from? what if the internet goes down? There are millions of people in India living in rural isolated villages with no birth certificates, I.D, money or electricity. Since 2016, ID2020 has promoted ethical, privacy-protecting approaches to digital ID as a means to promote equitable social, political, and economic empowerment and protect human rights. Nearly one billion people – roughly one person in eight globally – lack the means to prove their identity through any widely recognized means. If properly designed and implemented, digital ID could offer equitable access to vital services and enable individuals to exercise their rights as citizens and voters and participate in the modern economy. But doing digital ID right means protecting civil liberties and putting control over personal data back where it belongs...in the hands of the individual. Every day, we rely on a variety of forms of identification to go about our lives: our driver’s licenses, passports, work badges and building access cards, debit and credit cards, transit passes, and more. But technology is evolving at a blinding pace, and many of the transactions that require identification are today being conducted digitally. From e-passports to digital wallets, online banking to social media accounts, these new forms of digital ID allow us to travel, conduct business, access financial and health records, stay connected, and much more. While the process of digital transformation has had many positive effects, it has been accompanied by countless challenges and setbacks, including large-scale data breaches affecting millions of people. Most of the current tools are archaic, insecure, lack appropriate privacy protections, and commoditize our data. But that’s about to change, and ID2020 is leading the charge. We are businesses, nonprofits, governments, and individuals...working in collaboration to ensure that the future of digital identity is, indeed, #goodID. https://id2020.org/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, alexa said: To give credit where it's due Greta is right that the elites don't care about people starving and poverty, and they are only interested in their own greed. Her fluency in English is very impressive too. She didn't mention plastic pollution which is a big problem for sea animals and fish, also the land. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Quote they don't need manually dexterous robots to replace most people in their job roles. They simply need artificial intelligence to study humans as they do their jobs and then they can replicate it. AI can replace teachers in the classrooms, GP's, journalists, truck and van drivers, warehouse workers etc etc autonomous vehicles can replace soldiers on the battlefield. Many jobs are at threat when you think about it Yes, agreed that there will be many jobs/occupations that can be replaced by machines, but some cannot be done by robots (unless in the far flung future we can make androids as complex as Mr. Data from TNG). No machine can look after the elderly in care homes or disabled people for example. Perhaps the idea of replacing soldiers with machines might help to end war? Who is going to want to spend millions on creating expensive robo-soldiers/ machines only to have them blown up? Quote no people living in tents ARE being subsidised by the state so that they don't need to do anything except sit around taking opoids I see what you mean. But handing out of date food and pain killers to the homeless isn't the same concept as UBI in homed people. They only give them this stuff because they don't want to them causing trouble on the streets and the jails are full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Since 2016, ID2020 has promoted ethical, privacy-protecting approaches to digital ID as a means to promote equitable social, political, and economic empowerment and protect human rights. Nearly one billion people – roughly one person in eight globally – lack the means to prove their identity through any widely recognized means. If properly designed and implemented, digital ID could offer equitable access to vital services and enable individuals to exercise their rights as citizens and voters and participate in the modern economy. But doing digital ID right means protecting civil liberties and putting control over personal data back where it belongs...in the hands of the individual. Every day, we rely on a variety of forms of identification to go about our lives: our driver’s licenses, passports, work badges and building access cards, debit and credit cards, transit passes, and more. But technology is evolving at a blinding pace, and many of the transactions that require identification are today being conducted digitally. From e-passports to digital wallets, online banking to social media accounts, these new forms of digital ID allow us to travel, conduct business, access financial and health records, stay connected, and much more. While the process of digital transformation has had many positive effects, it has been accompanied by countless challenges and setbacks, including large-scale data breaches affecting millions of people. Most of the current tools are archaic, insecure, lack appropriate privacy protections, and commoditize our data. But that’s about to change, and ID2020 is leading the charge. We are businesses, nonprofits, governments, and individuals...working in collaboration to ensure that the future of digital identity is, indeed, #goodID. https://id2020.org/ How they gonna do that with a load of rural isolated peasants/hunter gatherers/herders who live in huts cooking with wood over iron pots outside who have no idea how old they are? And are illiterate and don't know how to use smart phones, never seen a laptop, and had no education? The elites can spout this shit all they want, but they are deluded. It's not possible to the extent they say it is. How are they gonna generate all this electricity? Wind farms? Take no notice. They want you afraid of them and seems it's working! Edited January 7 by itsnotallrightjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Yes, agreed that there will be many jobs/occupations that can be replaced by machines, but some cannot be done by robots (unless in the far flung future we can make androids as complex as Mr. Data from TNG). No machine can look after the elderly in care homes or disabled people for example. they are pushing euthanasia and covid jabs to get rid of those elderly people in the care homes 12 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Perhaps the idea of replacing soldiers with machines might help to end war? Who is going to want to spend millions on creating expensive robo-soldiers/ machines only to have them blown up? they are not just making kamikazee drones. Imagine robot tanks with weapons systems on top and pilotless, autonomous planes 12 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: I see what you mean. But handing out of date food and pain killers to the homeless isn't the same concept as UBI in homed people. They only give them this stuff because they don't want to them causing trouble on the streets and the jails are full. Democrats’ Stealth Plan to Enact Universal Basic Income By Robert Doar | Matt Weidinger The Wall Street Journal March 02, 2021 Universal basic income is about to arrive in America. Congressional Democrats’ $1.9 trillion stimulus bill provides for no-strings attached checks, limited only to parents of children under 18. This UBI for parents is billed as pandemic relief, but its real purpose is to put a stake in the heart of work-based welfare reform. Supporters blandly describe their plan as “Child Tax Credit improvements for 2021.” It would replace today’s annual child tax credit, which tops out at $2,000, with more-generous “child allowances,” payable monthly. Those allowances are federal payments of $3,600 (or $300 a month) for each child under 6 and $3,000 ($250 a month) for older children. The current credit increases with income from work; the new one would provide the same large payments to all. Under the guise of pandemic relief, the federal government would give a nonworking single parent with two preschool-age children and one in grade school $850 a month. This would come on top of other government benefits, including $680 a month in food stamps, amounting to $18,360 in combined annual income. That’s the equivalent, without accounting for taxes, of working 28 hours a week at $12.50 an hour. On top of that, the family would receive health insurance from Medicaid, and it may also receive housing and child-care assistance. Government benefits to nonworking households that are this generous are bound to reduce employment. The bill would provide the new benefit for only one year, but the Washington Post reports that “congressional Democrats and White House officials have said they would push for the policy to be made permanent later in the year. Under current law, federal cash assistance to poor families flows through state social-services agencies, which require recipients to work, look for work, or at least engage in some activity designed to help them become employed. UBI for parents is designed to circumvent these requirements. If enacted it will more than double the government-provided cash assistance to households headed by single mothers, creating a perverse incentive for the unmarried poor to have more children. That would lead to more poverty, not less. Unlike existing benefits, UBI for parents also avoids efforts to seek and collect child-support payments from parents who don’t live with their kids. That’s unfortunate, because efforts to collect child support have led to increased income for families in need and greater emotional connection between absent dads and their children. If all this sounds vaguely familiar, it should. Sending monthly checks to nonworking parents was exactly how welfare used to work until 1996, when President Clinton signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act, for which Sen. Joe Biden voted. That law requires parents to work or train in exchange for welfare benefits and offered additional child care and other support to help them go to work. Once UBI for parents is here, calls for UBI for everyone will follow. Democrats’ stimulus bill already includes more checks for adults (and their children), so the mechanics are in place. Last year then- Sen. Kamala Harris introduced legislation calling for $2,000 monthly “pandemic” payments per adult and up to three children. If such a scheme ever started, it would be politically difficult to shut off, despite its high cost. Some conservatives and libertarians have argued for UBI, but only as a replacement for the rest of the welfare state. That is most definitely not what the Democrats are proposing—they want the UBI, and food stamps and Medicaid and all of the rest. After the 1996 welfare reform, child poverty declined as single mothers increasingly worked and received benefits that supplemented their earnings. This combination of work plus aid made work pay, as Mr. Clinton used to say, and it allowed people to have the dignity that comes with earning one’s own living. Monthly welfare benefits with no expectation of work would reduce employment and earnings, establish lifelong government dependency for millions of Americans, and increase unwed childbearing. Democratic lawmakers may be happy to pave the way for UBI and finally reverse what Congress and Mr. Clinton did in 1996. It’s a bad bargain for everyone else. Mr. Doar is president of the American Enterprise Institute. He served as commissioner of social services in New York City, 2007-14. Mr. Weidinger is a resident fellow in poverty studies at AEI and a former deputy staff director of the House Ways and Means Committee. https://www.aei.org/op-eds/democrats-stealth-plan-to-enact-universal-basic-income/ Edited January 7 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: How they gonna do that with a load of rural isolated peasants/hunter gatherers/herders who live in huts cooking with wood over iron pots outside who have no idea how old they are? And are illiterate and don't know how to use smart phones, never seen a laptop, and had no education? The elites can spout this shit all they want, but they are deluded. It's not possible to the extent they say it is. How are they gonna generate all this electricity? Wind farms? Take no notice. They want you afraid of them and seems it's working! The only thing to fear, is fear itself! They've planted the seeds of fear into the fertile minds of the sheep with all their Netflix predictive type films, the hunger games style scenarios, disaster movie after disaster movie, warring tribes set against each other etc and then they sit back and watch as people fall apart! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 6 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: To give credit where it's due Greta is right that the elites don't care about people starving and poverty, and they are only interested in their own greed. Her fluency in English is very impressive too. She didn't mention plastic pollution which is a big problem for sea animals and fish, also the land. She still makes me feel nauseous 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanityisgone Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/6/2023 at 6:24 PM, itsnotallrightjack said: No going back to normal? It's business as usual from where I'm standing. Elites and big corporations still owning all the land, raking in huge profits, living luxury lifestyles and so on. Greta is deluded. "Greta is *included*" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) 12 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Plans..plans-- we'll see if they are able to do it. Where will all this electricity come from? what if the internet goes down? There are millions of people in India living in rural isolated villages with no birth certificates, I.D, money or electricity. If it wasn't for the 'Call Centre' industry, they'd have nothing! I don't know how they managed to find so many Indians called Mary, Jennifer, Susan etc to manage the lines, to be honest I don't know whether I'm talking to someone from India or Cardiff at times, the accents aren't too dissimilar! Edited January 8 by Mr Crabtree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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