David Icke refers to the Reptilians having "given us their mind" in a few of his books

[Kelli]

    I would like to start by saying that I've noticed many of the topics here have little or even nothing to do with David Icke's work as was distinctly requested by the moderator. So I have started a new topic.

 

    In a few of his books - I have read almost all of them, and I mean PORED over them - Mr. Icke talks about how the Reptilians, as cunning predators, have given us their minds. He says this very directly when he quotes Carlos Casteneda's conversations with Don Juan, and again when he talks specifically about how the Reptilian consciousness has given humans constant thoughts coloured by fear, anxiety, guilt, depression, et al. At one point Mr. Icke urges his readers to "observe their own thoughts" and to note that the being doing the observing "is you" and so the very troubling, anxious thoughts cannot be our own, but must be someone else's, inserted there...".I have found this to be true. As a trained psychologist, most of the patients I see are struggling with this very problem which we call "rumination" - going over and over depressive or anxious thoughts, often seemingly endlessly. By following David Icke's advice - by just knowing these thoughts are not my own - as he says, the brain does not produce thoughts as science tells us but rather it processes information - that they have been put there by a negative force for its own negative purposes, and by pairing this with focusing on the heart, I was able to 100% eliminate such negative "chatter" since about a year ago when I started to awaken, and they have never returned. 

[Campion]

One thing I've noticed is that my thoughts sometimes appear automatically as a result of other emotional and biological functions which I don't have control over. Eg when I feel hungry I get thoughts appearing about obtaining food, as if it's part of the survival strategy. Also the fight/flight/freeze/fawn mechanism creates a cascade of responses which include thoughts of fear, anxiety and anger which aren't consciously chosen. I only have a basic understanding of psychology but I understand there is a primitive part of the brain, sometimes called the 'reptile brain' around the brain stem which controls these type of subconscious functions separate from the executive function (which is what we normally associate with our conscious self and will power). 

[Stuart dorrans]

On 12/31/2022 at 1:41 PM, Campion said:

One thing I've noticed is that my thoughts sometimes appear automatically as a result of other emotional and biological functions which I don't have control over. Eg when I feel hungry I get thoughts appearing about obtaining food, as if it's part of the survival strategy. Also the fight/flight/freeze/fawn mechanism creates a cascade of responses which include thoughts of fear, anxiety and anger which aren't consciously chosen. I only have a basic understanding of psychology but I understand there is a primitive part of the brain, sometimes called the 'reptile brain' around the brain stem which controls these type of subconscious functions separate from the executive function (which is what we normally associate with our conscious self and will power).

Do you think if we could get rid of all the toxins they are spraying on the earth and get rid of all the tech, we would be in a better balance with nature? I can't remember David's exact words but he said something along the lines that earth is in the wrong frequency range right now because it's being poisoned, and so are we. I believe this poisoning of the earth is the cause of rising mental health rates. The elites really are attacking us from all angles. Perhaps the peasants subconsciously know the air they are breathing is wrong. Maybe all these toxins is the reason they can't see through the COVID narrative.

[Campion]

2 hours ago, Stuart dorrans said:

Do you think if we could get rid of all the toxins they are spraying on the earth and get rid of all the tech, we would be in a better balance with nature?

 

This is a big subject, but as a general rule of thumb, a cleaner lifestyle free from toxins stressing our system would definitely be healthier for the whole of life on earth. Tho I remember from my school geography that the post-war 'green revolution' was when the toxins started being used in large quantity in farming which apparently did increase the yields - at the time there was some concern with over population and the Malthusian prediction but we were told that chemical farming meant there was enough food for all. But We're paying the price now with the long-term effects of toxicity on ourselves and the environment.  Whether organic farming could produce enough quantity at affordable prices for very highly populated countries like the UK, that don't even grow enough food for ourselves as it is, is a worry for me. 

[rebornsteve]

On 12/31/2022 at 10:21 AM, Kelli said:

    I would like to start by saying that I've noticed many of the topics here have little or even nothing to do with David Icke's work as was distinctly requested by the moderator. So I have started a new topic.

 

    In a few of his books - I have read almost all of them, and I mean PORED over them - Mr. Icke talks about how the Reptilians, as cunning predators, have given us their minds. He says this very directly when he quotes Carlos Casteneda's conversations with Don Juan, and again when he talks specifically about how the Reptilian consciousness has given humans constant thoughts coloured by fear, anxiety, guilt, depression, et al. At one point Mr. Icke urges his readers to "observe their own thoughts" and to note that the being doing the observing "is you" and so the very troubling, anxious thoughts cannot be our own, but must be someone else's, inserted there...".I have found this to be true. As a trained psychologist, most of the patients I see are struggling with this very problem which we call "rumination" - going over and over depressive or anxious thoughts, often seemingly endlessly. By following David Icke's advice - by just knowing these thoughts are not my own - as he says, the brain does not produce thoughts as science tells us but rather it processes information - that they have been put there by a negative force for its own negative purposes, and by pairing this with focusing on the heart, I was able to 100% eliminate such negative "chatter" since about a year ago when I started to awaken, and they have never returned. 

A very interesting post, thank you Kelli.

 

my partner suffers from a debilitating amount of negative chatter since her mother died, though ironically is is all about her heart (congenital heart condition), so I’m not sure how she could focus on the heart as you suggest…

[CosmoGenesis]

Nothing to do with Icke, hes quoting a Carlos Castenda book. 

 

 

[Kelli]

Campion - You are referring to the limbic system, which David - and many others - call the reptilian brain. The limbic system is the most primitive part of the brain, and contains structures involved in memory and emotional responses. The most well-known structure is probably the amygdala - ever heard the saying "No amygdala, no fear"? The amygdala sits there and constantly scans the environment for danger and then alerts the nervous system, setting up the body's fight, flight, or freeze response system. The problem is that the amygdala isn't too bright - it can't differentiate between for instance a real danger and a not-s-real danger and will respond the same to a car backfiring as it will to a gun shot. 

 

Rule of thumb, and David makes a note of this for sure - if you can take a metaphorical step back and just notice your thoughts, especially the ones that drive you crazy, then you know for sure those thoughts are not you - you are the observer of those thoughts. This is what the whole mindfulness practice is based on. 

[indigo solo]

I've seen my entire life, people -unfortunately almost all people-, living the life performing a role. They were told by education, media and social circles they did have to be certain way, and they spend the entire lifetime trying to accomplish. But this is unconscious. What is more, I've seen natural people turn into this creature. Lots of them. Friends, girlfriends, members of my family. It has been kind of dramatic and sad, because I have a very solitary lifestyle. Always I found a new friend, he or she finally turned in «the creature». I reached the point in which I don't want to find any more friends. Same is gonna happen.

 

A few of the characteristics of this creature:

• They are the kind of people that states: «Law is law and we have to obey». They worship the system.
• Never doubt of what authorities say.
• They are automatically bored on Mo(o)ndays and happy on Satur(n)day. 
• Celebrate every shit the calendar commands.
• Always vote in elections. Have blind faith in democracy. And, because of this, accomplish as well with turning themselves in enemies of the other party or candidate followers.
• Their topic of conversation always is what the news said.
• They find solace in being sport team fans. They don't know that, just turn into fans.
• Listen to commercial radio stations and watch news as a sacred ritual.
• Become materialistic, superficial, envious, etc.
• They adopt streams as religions. Even if they are atheist, that would be their religion.
• They love to be herd, but hate to listen.

This is the basic recipe for a narcissist. Everybody is obsessed with him or her-self. The illusion of success, possessions, proud, not being alone, living a running live because of fear to death. And, the higher fear, is failure.

 

In El lado activo del infinito, Carlos Castañeda tells us in a chapter called Sombras de barro (mud  shadows), how Don Juan took him to see the Shadows. They were called "The predators" by the ancient central America shamans. I disagree, they are Parasites. Anyway.

They gave us their mind, or turned us into them. Is what many ancient cultures say. Lucifer made a distorted copy of the Earth. And Narcissists and psychopaths (I will never know where ends one and starts the other) are the distorted copy of the human. What religious people call "possesion" applies as well. A narcissist or psychopath behaves like a parasite, not even of material thing, but of energy and what is more, parasites of consciousnesses.  They have not consciousness, so infect other individuals to get awareness of themselves. If they catch a victim and he or she don't realize the parasitic symbiosis, he or she will loose the reason or become suicidal. That is living together with a psychopath. They hate creative energy and happiness. They feel that vibrations as we would feel direct fire contact. They prefer you to feel upset and sad. Imagine living together with a Psycho. That's the reality for many people, and the life of someone being managed by a psycho, is the hell. Take a look to our world. Mankind is behaving like a kicked wife.

I know all of this by experience. I have lived all my life together with psychos.  When I read about Narcissism, I realized what was all about. Years after I read David Icke's books and understood the spiritual origin behind the psychological one.

Icke tell archons have only three chakras (humans have 12! Why the hell are we on our knees?). An infected human, possessed or a human who uses the mind of the predator or parasite, disables his or her upper 9 chakras. Don Juan Matus explained the same thing, in other terms. He said we are luminous spheres and, once under power of the predator, that energy is lowered to ground. Merely as high as the sole of foot, in order the human (livestock) don't die. The effects of this energy loss is turning in that creature, so imbecile that if they are told their sons are breathing too much and fulfilling the atmosphere of CO2, and they have to recycle them for blood, organs and tissues, they go making the line to sacrifice them with the little boy tied. An infected human become scared of "supernatural", stops lucid dreaming, stops intuiting, stops tuning other's feelings, stops listening to their own body...

 

In my own case, I was the kind of kid who spent all the time alone. I didn't know why, but it was because I was afraid of others. I intuited their distorted nature from my childhood. Orthodox Psychology love to call people like me "of low self esteem", "schizoids", "with social deficiencies", etc. Psychos make gaslighting. System is archon-infected. System is a psycho. So system want you to believe you're crazy or sick.

 

 

 

[Macnamara]

On 1/1/2023 at 11:22 PM, Campion said:

Whether organic farming could produce enough quantity at affordable prices for very highly populated countries like the UK, that don't even grow enough food for ourselves as it is, is a worry for me. 

 

The book 'the running hare' was written by a farmer, John Lewis Stempel about his project of renting a field that had been farmed using modern methods so that he could then try and produce crops organically to see what sort of yields he could produce and also what sort of impact it would have on the bio-diversity. It makes an interesting read

 

The national trust in england brought back 'strip farming' in one of their properties and saw a huge increase in insect and bird life.