gazap Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 My health is rapidly declining and Ive been reading as much as I can before my departure. What I regret reading is a book called the war in heaven by Kyle Griffith. Does anyone here know of it? Its content has shaken me to my core and Im now overcome with dread and fear. Does anyone here know of it? I hope thats its a load of crap but hoping wont really get me anywhere. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I've not heard of it. What is it specifically that is troubling you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 hours ago, gazap said: My health is rapidly declining and Ive been reading as much as I can before my departure. What I regret reading is a book called the war in heaven by Kyle Griffith. Does anyone here know of it? Its content has shaken me to my core and Im now overcome with dread and fear. Does anyone here know of it? I hope thats its a load of crap but hoping wont really get me anywhere. Thanks I'm truly sorry for your decline in health but you really need to get right with the Lord. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) You need to see that book for what it is ... GIBBERISH! Don't live your life in fear because of what some moron declares as true. This book, and all religious books, are just complete hearsay made up in the minds of men. No one, and I mean NO ONE, knows anything about what happens after death. Hears a short clip from the Introduction to that book ... Quote War in Heaven is not a typical New Age channeled book, and I am not a typical New Ager, though I helped to found that movement in the Sixties and Seventies. I was raised as a traditional occultist, and my primary goal in life has always been to develop my skills as a psychic and magician. However, I also possess past-life memories that have caused me to develop into a very different kind of occultist from my relatives who were Freemasons, Rosicrucians, Spiritualists, or Theosophists. I have been aware since 1946, when I was four years old, that my soul was deliberately sent to this planet by an advanced extra-terrestrial civilization to assist Earth people in dealing with a major crisis in their spiritual evolution. For this reason, I’ve studied UFOs and related subjects as seriously as I’ve studied psychic and spiritual phenomena, and the relationship between the two has always been obvious to me. What a load of twaddle! I'm 70 myself and cannot know how much longer I have left. Let's face it, I never knew when I was 20 either. Just live your life and make each day count. Edited December 29, 2022 by webtrekker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I have heard the term before; in my readings what I understand of that term is that it describes an alleged war between spirits who created the earth realm and intended for it to be a 'school' of sorts and other, apparently wiser spirits who advised against the creation of the earth realm believing that it would create a pattern of suffering which we would all find it difficult to transcend. I encountered this information courtesy of a channeler called Michael Reccia who wrote a series of books in which he claimed to be channeling a spirit called Joseph. It was Joseph who claimed there was a so-called war in heaven between the two opposing factions, but that it wasn't really a war in the true sense of the word. It often occurred to me that this Michael Reccia guy was channeling a Reptilian. At one point in the book, the Jospeh spirit is highly judgmental towards particular types of human being and this does not correlate with what I know of spirit. I would take everything you read by channelers with a pinch of salt. Some of them are bound to be mischievous ETs who are trying to mess with our minds and beliefs. Try your best to neutralize your beliefs before you leave this world and also try and neutralize any negative beliefs about God because it has been suggested by many that it's your beliefs which determine what you experience in the Astral after you leave here. As far as that book is concerned, there is a copy of it on Amazon for £380. This usually only happens when it's a book that the PTB in this world don't want you to read for some reason but there may be exceptions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Ethel said: As far as that book is concerned, there is a copy of it on Amazon for £380. This usually only happens when it's a book that the PTB in this world don't want you to read for some reason but there may be exceptions. You can get the PDF version for nowt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazap Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 Thank you all for your replies. The online version can be found here: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/warinheaven/warheaven-III.htm#Contents The whe premise is that there are two opposing factions in the astral. The theocrats who devour or enslave souls, who have duped many on earth in believing that there is eternal life and that their God is all loving who offers them a place in eternity. Apparently they create these band which are essentially factions. According to the text theyve created most religions, new age movements etc as a way of entrapment once the soul crosses over and is met either by a guide, or deceased family membet etc. It is truly a despairing and horrifying account. The opposing faction to this group are called the invisible college who ar fighting this faction. Honestly, it sounds ridiculous but at the same time I cant help but feel theres some truth in it. They talk a lit about how there are a lot of frightened souls who hide in the astral from these beings. Some get captured, others go insane etc most are enslaved and devoured thus rendering that soul obsolete. He says that he used automatic writing to get this information. The book was written in 1988. Anyway, I feel embarrassed posting this cause it sounds crazy but I was just hoping someone had information on this book and that it was debunked as being fake! I bloody hope so. Thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazap Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 7 hours ago, webtrekker said: You need to see that book for what it is ... GIBBERISH! Don't live your life in fear because of what some moron declares as true. This book, and all religious books, are just complete hearsay made up in the minds of men. No one, and I mean NO ONE, knows anything about what happens after death. Hears a short clip from the Introduction to that book ... What a load of twaddle! I'm 70 myself and cannot know how much longer I have left. Let's face it, I never knew when I was 20 either. Just live your life and make each day count. Thank you for your reply. I wish I could but it was just so frightening and a lot of it made sense and now im in a state of complete panic. Its the worst thing ive ever read. Im 39, only have about 6 months left. Was looking for some peace before I departed yet this book has made me somewhat hysterical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazap Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, webtrekker said: You can get the PDF version for nowt! Yes. Not sure if Im allowed to post a link to it but if I am, ill post it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Ethel said: As far as that book is concerned, there is a copy of it on Amazon for £380. This usually only happens when it's a book that the PTB in this world don't want you to read for some reason but there may be exceptions. I saw that price on Amazon ...... crazy! There's a free PDF copy that can be downloaded here: https://ia803102.us.archive.org/31/items/war_in_heaven/war_in_heaven.pdf It has a much different (pornographic - satanic) cover though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazap Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 Id love everyone'd opinion on this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 hour ago, webtrekker said: You can get the PDF version for nowt! Thanks for your review of the book. You saved my time from downloading it. Surely, the war in heaven is not of someone's concern if they are departing shortly because there is nothing they can do about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeThrive Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 There’s more to ‘Life’ and ‘Truth’ than the lower astral planes, which that book subject is focused on. Just like there’s more to experience on this whole earth, than just the city ghetto’s. All is energy, your will directs it, we all choose what energy ‘bandwidth’ we focus on. Or, as the book is really revealing, we allow others to direct our will and energy, therefore ‘feeding’ off of our ‘life force’. We’re taught on earth all kinds of behaviours that essentially train us to give our ‘life force power of awareness’ away to others. Jung recognised this in his psychological work and coined the phrase ‘Individuation’ as a process a person goes through to dissolve their past programming, traumas, and disingenuous belief systems, which then releases us from the prison of our own-making. This world is full to bursting with belief ‘systems’ that you can hop on and ride for eternity, man-made-mind belief systems of supposed truth. Self ego identity and belief systems are intertwined, so once the belief systems crumble we peel back layers of false lower ego conditioning, eventually revealing what’s left at the centre of IT ALL: Truth. (and no, absolute Truth cannot be corrupted by lower astral entities as they simply dont have the level of quintessential reality life-force awareness to generate an illusion of Truth, which is evident if theyre trawling the lower astral realms! They can project glowing deities, fake angels, shining goddesses at believers to dupe a follower, much like social media with picture filter magic!… but they cannot project Absolute Truth, simply because if they could, they would NOT be in the lower astral behaving as ‘con-artists’. The experience of Truth occurs WITHIN at the centre of our beingness. Not ‘out there’ in ANY manifest realm.) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 hours ago, gazap said: Thank you for your reply. I wish I could but it was just so frightening and a lot of it made sense and now im in a state of complete panic. Its the worst thing ive ever read. Im 39, only have about 6 months left. Was looking for some peace before I departed yet this book has made me somewhat hysterical. This is very sad to hear, but your soul belongs to God & only he can judge it. Have no fear 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, alexa said: This is very sad to hear, but your soul belongs to God & only he can judge it. Have no fear Where is this 'god' you speak so highly of, Alexa? I've seen no sign of this 'god' in my entire lifetime. And what makes this 'god' of yours so different from the myriad of other 'gods' worshipped around the world? Here's what life is about: You're born, you live to the best of your ability, then you die. Who says you are 'judged' after your death? That's a load of baloney devised by weak priests over millenia to exert control over the stronger massed populace. If your soul, or whatever, survives after death, then only you will know. If it doesn't, then there's no need to worry about it as you will not then be in a position to know anything. Just stay as happy as you can and don't stress over things beyond your control or understanding, ... tick, tock, tick, tock, ... until the final tick (or tock). Some people can experince a fuller life in 6 months than others can in 60 years. Edited December 29, 2022 by webtrekker typo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 hours ago, webtrekker said: Some people can experince a fuller life in 6 months than others can in 60 years. And the only experience that matters is when you close your eyes for the last time, conversely some open their eyes for the first time, and are greeted without love, just terror with no escape, sad really when all we need to do is look up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 hours ago, gazap said: Im 39, only have about 6 months left. Was looking for some peace before I departed yet this book has made me somewhat hysterical. I can tell you that there is no reason to be afraid. There are things we are allowed to know during our lifetime and there are also exceptions. Watch this video, these special demonstrations are filmed for Experiencer who often see similar things in their lives. Isn't human reality perhaps more mysterious than you thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 22 hours ago, webtrekker said: I'm 70 myself and cannot know how much longer I have left. Let's face it, I never knew when I was 20 either. Just live your life and make each day count. You old prick ,I'm only 65 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 hours ago, sock muppet said: And the only experience that matters is when you close your eyes for the last time, conversely some open their eyes for the first time, and are greeted without love, just terror with no escape, sad really when all we need to do is look up. I look up all the time ,I've seen a lot of weird shit in the skies, but I don't see how that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) On 12/29/2022 at 11:06 AM, gazap said: My health is rapidly declining and Ive been reading as much as I can before my departure. What I regret reading is a book called the war in heaven by Kyle Griffith. Does anyone here know of it? Its content has shaken me to my core and Im now overcome with dread and fear. Does anyone here know of it? I hope thats its a load of crap but hoping wont really get me anywhere. Thanks Forget about the book DMT or mushrooms is the way to go, don't read about it ,experience it for yourself. Edited December 30, 2022 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 9 hours ago, webtrekker said: Here's what life is about: You're born, you live to the best of your ability, then you die Your soul is conscious energy but as you know energy cannot die, it can only be changed, (you shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye) 1 Corinthians 15:51 this energy belongs to God our creator who created us, the earth, heavens, the sun, moon etc . Your soul will never die! And if you don't believe the Bible maybe try reading one of your books you recommended 'Beyond Biocentricism' by Robert Lanza chapter 17. 1 Corinthians 15:51 Quote Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, alexa said: Your soul is conscious energy but as you know energy cannot die, it can only be changed, (you shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye) 1 Corinthians 15:51 this energy belongs to God our creator who created us, the earth, heavens, the sun, moon etc . Your soul will never die! And if you don't believe the Bible maybe try reading one of your books you recommended 'Beyond Biocentricism' by Robert Lanza chapter 17. 1 Corinthians 15:51 I never recommended that book Alexa. You did. I simply said it was thought-provoking and worth a read but that I was reeading it with an open mind. Check my post. I stand by my position that ALL religious texts are pure conjecture and written either to placate fearful minds or to instill fear for nefarious purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Mod note keep it on topic!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazap Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Thank you all for your replies. I was just wondering if there were any others who had read the book. It certainly is steeped in fear and makes one feel quite hopeless. But there were tidbits shared within it which seemed to connect the dots about what we have experienced as a planet since 1988. Thats what was worrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 6 hours ago, peter said: I look up all the time ,I've seen a lot of weird shit in the skies, but I don't see how that helps To remind us that it's not all about just you or me, much more than that going on that's for sure, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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