Gnostic Christian Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Are UAPs and UFOs, more likely to be Time travelers than Space travelers? Given that after all these years of UFOs and UAPs no certifiable space litter has ever been found. We do have several radiation phenomena of various descriptions. Given what they call sighting hot spots, I begin to wonder if at some point in the future, those sites will be where take off points are for our future time travellers. Space travel has the speed of light that would dampen intelligences from such pursuits, but perhaps not time travel. Energy is easy to move as compared to matter. Science, I believe, will find a way to have our electric consciousness time travel before space travel pays any dividends. We already know that our brain waves can attain the speed of light. It is just a matter of seeing what is before it. Who will win the Space and Time race? Space or Time. I say Time, and I am always correct. Regards DL P.S. Fermi was wrong about the destruction of timelines and Butterfly effect. Timelines adjust locally, not globally or universally. No time line is ever destroyed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Electronic-Reading-Room/FileId/170048/ - Defense Intelligence Reference Document - Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy Genuine document. Everything is connected to everything else, instantaneous travel is very possible, its just understanding the mechanisms of how that works and for us to understand that we need to stop messing around with thinking matter is reality. As you say its easy to move energy, well that is fundamentally all "matter" is but in a fixed state. To answer your question, interdimensional travel which is intrinsically linked to timelines. So time, not space. Although our understanding of both time and space is very very very wrong. Edited December 19, 2022 by TheConsultant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said: Are UAPs and UFOs, more likely to be Time travelers than Space travelers? UAP/UFO are not physical objects. Reality still needs to be placed in a proper context first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 11 hours ago, TheConsultant said: https://www.dia.mil/FOIA/FOIA-Electronic-Reading-Room/FileId/170048/ - Defense Intelligence Reference Document - Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy Genuine document. Everything is connected to everything else, instantaneous travel is very possible, its just understanding the mechanisms of how that works and for us to understand that we need to stop messing around with thinking matter is reality. As you say its easy to move energy, well that is fundamentally all "matter" is but in a fixed state. To answer your question, interdimensional travel which is intrinsically linked to timelines. So time, not space. Although our understanding of both time and space is very very very wrong. Saying there is another way of thinking without showing it does not prove it's reality. None of the items you mentioned have yet to be found. or explained, so we cannot yet say we are wrong. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Origin said: UAP/UFO are not physical objects. Reality still needs to be placed in a proper context first. I thought I had indicated it was all energy. What context do you see as proper? Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said: Saying there is another way of thinking without showing it does not prove it's reality. None of the items you mentioned have yet to be found. or explained, so we cannot yet say we are wrong. Regards DL Not explained in the public domain and not explained are very different. We are very very very wrong regarding our understanding of space and time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said: Space travel has the speed of light that would dampen intelligences from such pursuits, but perhaps not time travel. There are good arguments that suggest the Universe, and 'reality' as we perceive it, exists entirely within our own brains. If such is the case, then interstellar travel is not inconceivable seeing as we would only have to travel around 8cm to the edge of the Universe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: Not explained in the public domain and not explained are very different. We are very very very wrong regarding our understanding of space and time. If you know we are wrong, teach us the right. If you cannot, then your theories are not worth much discussion. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said: I thought I had indicated it was all energy. What context do you see as proper? Regards DL Everything must be reconsidered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, webtrekker said: There are good arguments that suggest the Universe, and 'reality' as we perceive it, exists entirely within our own brains. If such is the case, then interstellar travel is not inconceivable seeing as we would only have to travel around 8cm to the edge of the Universe! I have yet to see an argument like that. Where is the best example that you have. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Origin said: Everything must be reconsidered. Everything. Seriously? Why? Do you not trust any o the peer reviewed science? Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Gnostic Christian said: Everything. Seriously? Why? Do you not trust any o the peer reviewed science? Regards DL Because nothing of what I have seen is actually reflected. It never occurred to Humans that they could be wrong. In the delusion of having decoded reality. But they haven't. Because this has not yet been made available to do so. It's all wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Origin said: Because nothing of what I have seen is actually reflected. It never occurred to Humans that they could be wrong. In the delusion of having decoded reality. But they haven't. Because this has not yet been made available to do so. It's all wrong. Knowing that, you must know what is right? Share buddy. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said: Knowing that, you must know what is right? Share buddy. Regards DL Yes. And I have been through several severe culture shocks. Relearning is only possible with direct involvement with the causer. The most basic layer is UAP/UFO. Then you have to identify all phenomena. And it will then go in every perceptible scale. Something will observe you in this process and if you can bear it, it will go on. There are no limits, at least as far as this side is concerned. It is impossible to reveal details. You simply can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said: If you know we are wrong, teach us the right. If you cannot, then your theories are not worth much discussion. Regards DL I posted a paper on this subject in this thread. I also have many posts on DIF that outline why it is wrong and what is more accurately describing the universe. Edited December 19, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Origin said: Because nothing of what I have seen is actually reflected. It never occurred to Humans that they could be wrong. In the delusion of having decoded reality. But they haven't. Because this has not yet been made available to do so. It's all wrong. Ok, but I would get my eyes checked by reading on science issues before saying that all science has to rethink. Your ego has screwed up your judgement, or you just have not matured your thinking. I hope the latter. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Origin said: It is impossible to reveal details. You simply can't. Then you make noise for no gain. Sympathies. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said: Ok, but I would get my eyes checked by reading on science issues before saying that all science has to rethink. Your ego has screwed up your judgement, or you just have not matured your thinking. I hope the latter. Regards DL In the early stages, you still think you have to tell everyone. That you want to contribute to. Then you will be surprised to find out that they don't know. And that the causer will then flood you with demonstrations that you absolutely not expect. You will notice how you have made a mistake yourself. When every known approach turns out to be wrong and cannot be explained, you will give up trying to understand it from a human perspective. In the end you have no longer any illusions because then you understand that you have no right to interfere. The causer is in control of the complete development. This includes all Experiencer. It sounds strange, but only the source is able to evaluate how far I have understood it. You won't find anyone who is willing to interfere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Origin said: the source What source? Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gnostic Christian said: What source? Regards DL Something that sees this as a job, similar to a teacher who gradually makes the whole expanse transparent. Of course, this means that something has to be changed so that eyes can detect new information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Origin said: Something that sees this as a job, similar to a teacher who gradually makes the whole expanse transparent. Of course, this means that something has to be changed so that eyes can detect new information. You describe me. Yes, those who say they know a thing because someone in their circle said it, but cannot argue for it, do not know enough of it. In some things, the student must seek a teacher, but these days, polarization has students thinking that a teacher is seeking them out. All the information and data is there, but simple minds like simple answers and are led by liars in both the religious and political stratospheres. We educate our experts and scholars bureaucrats, then ignore their best advice. If we do not seek the excellent, we will never find it. I have a good lesson, but these days, no one seeks to read or want to try to see some other minds reality. Selfishness is good, but not when it closes the mind and forgets to trade ideas or adopt better ones. Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 12 hours ago, Origin said: The causer Who? 12 hours ago, Origin said: you have no right to interfere. Who will stop me? Your post above makes a lot of assumptions and posits many personal opinions. All without arguments. Are such deflections how one should treat a guy who is learning to teach? Should I ask the Causer? Regards DL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Origin said: Something that sees this as a job, similar to a teacher who gradually makes the whole expanse transparent. Of course, this means that something has to be changed so that eyes can detect new information. If there is any misunderstanding here, I am not talking about me. I was curious and something ensures that I am not quite so bored here within this so limited construct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gnostic Christian said: Who will stop me? Should I ask the Causer? Who will stop me? It knows you. Every second of your entire existence. You don't want to play by the rules? Then you will never know. Should I ask the Causer? Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnostic Christian Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Origin said: Who will stop me? It knows you. Every second of your entire existence. You don't want to play by the rules? Then you will never know. Should I ask the Causer? Of course. I see that you are a waste of time. Your creator screwed up. Regards DL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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