alexa Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Quote Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. We walk in the shadow death but dwell in the house of the Lord for ever, (The house of the Lord being earth) As controversial as it may sound to many, a scientist has revealed how death is not real, it is an illusion generated by our consciousness. Furthermore, life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever. According to new evidence, Einstein was right – death is an illusion. Furthermore, the researcher, author, and entrepreneur argues that immortality doesn’t mean a perpetual existence in time, but resides outside of time altogether. https://www.ancient-code.com/scientist-concludes-death-is-only-an-illusion-it-is-not-real/ DID I DIE OR DID I JUST CARRY ON WHERE I LEFT OFF ? In 2016 I should have died due to a stent collapsing in my heart, the percentage rate for my survival was 1%, fortunately I survived due to being flown to the hospital to undergo a triple A heart op, but after the op every thing seemed to have changed slightly, every one seemed much nicer & my out look was different, it was like starting a new. But should we really believe the scientists ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 4 hours ago, alexa said: We walk in the shadow death but dwell in the house of the Lord for ever, (The house of the Lord being earth) As controversial as it may sound to many, a scientist has revealed how death is not real, it is an illusion generated by our consciousness. Furthermore, life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever. According to new evidence, Einstein was right – death is an illusion. Furthermore, the researcher, author, and entrepreneur argues that immortality doesn’t mean a perpetual existence in time, but resides outside of time altogether. https://www.ancient-code.com/scientist-concludes-death-is-only-an-illusion-it-is-not-real/ DID I DIE OR DID I JUST CARRY ON WHERE I LEFT OFF ? In 2016 I should have died due to a stent collapsing in my heart, the percentage rate for my survival was 1%, fortunately I survived due to being flown to the hospital to undergo a triple A heart op, but after the op every thing seemed to have changed slightly, every one seemed much nicer & my out look was different, it was like starting a new. But should we really believe the scientists ? The assumption that we are alive is an illusion. We are not a life form. Everyone will find themselves where they are supposed to be. Those who do not understand here will not understand the other side either. And with nothing can it be deceived. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) The short answer is no. We are never born and cannot die. I guess you maybe talking about the appearance of the illusiory character. Yes they appear and disappear all the time. But even during the day parts of the character are appearing and disappearing all the time. Characters are made of thoughts, feeling, sensations and perceptions only. These are constantly starting and stopping. I suggest for the character death maybe similar to going to.sleep at night. The character in the waking state is an object, generally unless you are dreaming, consciousness in sleeping state, returns back to experience without objects, and in this state it is seemingly most peaceful and still remains. Death for the character is to consciousness (you) objectiveless experience and if it was something to fear you would probably be scared to go to sleep at night. Edited December 16, 2022 by Mr H 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) This world is the "valley of the shadow of death"= The dream of deceit and death. To awaken to Truth(within and beyond) one then realizes and knows it's not reality, and "the house of the Lord" is where The Real(anything) always must Be, the (Infinite)house of The One(The Lord) is so-called "Heaven"=EternalSpiritBeingAlive--Wholly= Holy within THEONE. That which is not real is not really "alive", illusions and dreams contrary to Truth(cannot be "reality") are a hypothesis examined/tested in the "mind"--, when the truthful conclusion is reached as to it's validity, then the dream is discarded and Reality is Re-Membered(Members of The Body of Christ-Consciousness-Spirit---no more "separated "parts"=Whole=Holy=Oneness=Complete=Totality). We are characters of the consciousness testing an idea within it's "mind". Playing out a scenario of separation from Truth. Basically we are The Prodigal Son. A part of the Greater Whole that took a (virtual)trip into Never Never Land. ("Enter Sandman"). Edited December 16, 2022 by novymir 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, novymir said: Basically we are The Prodigal Son. A part of the Greater Whole that took a (virtual)trip into Never Never Land. ("Enter Sandman"). This is interesting 'Never Never Land', reminds me of Peter Pan the boy who never grew up & lost his shadow for a while. While looking up the Land of Nod where Cain was exiled too, I came across this little snippet. Why is it called the temple of my head? Both come from Latin, but the word for the place of worship comes from templum, whereas the word for the part of the head comes from Vulgar Latin *tempula, modified from tempora, plural form ("both temples") of tempus, a word that meant both "time" and the part of the head. Fascinating - Tempus meaning both 'time & part of the head. Hmm - If time is outside as was mentioned by Einstein in the OP, then by rights we are out of our heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 18 hours ago, alexa said: We walk in the shadow death but dwell in the house of the Lord for ever, (The house of the Lord being earth) As controversial as it may sound to many, a scientist has revealed how death is not real, it is an illusion generated by our consciousness. Furthermore, life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever. According to new evidence, Einstein was right – death is an illusion. Furthermore, the researcher, author, and entrepreneur argues that immortality doesn’t mean a perpetual existence in time, but resides outside of time altogether. https://www.ancient-code.com/scientist-concludes-death-is-only-an-illusion-it-is-not-real/ DID I DIE OR DID I JUST CARRY ON WHERE I LEFT OFF ? In 2016 I should have died due to a stent collapsing in my heart, the percentage rate for my survival was 1%, fortunately I survived due to being flown to the hospital to undergo a triple A heart op, but after the op every thing seemed to have changed slightly, every one seemed much nicer & my out look was different, it was like starting a new. But should we really believe the scientists ? @alexa Believe it or not, I've actually given your post a 'Like!' Mainly because of the link you provided. Have you read that Biocentrism book by Lanza, Alexa? I'm busy reading it now (with an open mind) and it's a really thought-provoking book. Here's some download links (or you can buy from Amazon) ... PDF EPUB MOBI There's also a follow-up book ... PDF EPUB MOBI 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, webtrekker said: I'm busy reading it now (with an open mind) and it's a really thought-provoking book. .. I just ordered the book from the book depository in the UK ,it better be good or I'm holding you responsible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 5 hours ago, webtrekker said: @alexa Believe it or not, I've actually given your post a 'Like!' Mainly because of the link you provided. Have you read that Biocentrism book by Lanza, Alexa? I'm busy reading it now (with an open mind) and it's a really thought-provoking book. Here's some download links (or you can buy from Amazon) ... PDF EPUB MOBI There's also a follow-up book ... PDF EPUB MOBI Robert Lanza is supposed to be one of the top scientists around. I've just ordered the two books, hopefully it will give a better insight to what @Originis trying to say. Thanks webtrekker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, alexa said: I've just ordered the two books, hopefully it will give a better insight to what @Originis trying to say. You wouldn't be able to understand. I explore creation in ways that you would consider impossible. Just because I know certain answers doesn't mean it's transferable. It's not me who changes the process, it's the causer who decides it. It is strange enough to know that something is interested in how I will handle the paradox. Which is why I exist here at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, Origin said: it's the causer who decides it And who is the causer ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, alexa said: And who is the causer ? ... I think you first have to understand every human experience since the beginning. Then what is earth, moon, sun, universe/firmament. Then every perceptible anomaly. Then why you are here and why there is only this way. I can tell you that only the sum of all this and direct visual patterns from the source will lead you to the ultimate question. Then you would see it directly, all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Origin said: ... I think you first have to understand every human experience since the beginning. Then what is earth, moon, sun, universe/firmament. Then every perceptible anomaly. Then why you are here and why there is only this way. I can tell you that only the sum of all this and direct visual patterns from the source will lead you to the ultimate question. Then you would see it directly, all of it. so what is the ultimate question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, peter said: so what is the ultimate question What's for lunch? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 10 hours ago, webtrekker said: @alexa Believe it or not, I've actually given your post a 'Like!' Mainly because of the link you provided. Have you read that Biocentrism book by Lanza, Alexa? I'm busy reading it now (with an open mind) and it's a really thought-provoking book. Here's some download links (or you can buy from Amazon) ... PDF EPUB MOBI There's also a follow-up book ... PDF EPUB MOBI To whet the appetite of anyone considering downloading or buying the book, here's a snippet from near the beginning of Biocentrism ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, peter said: so what is the ultimate question Exactly Peter. I, too, have problems with people claiming to know all yet can only speak in riddles. I'd rather place my beliefs in mainstream science, as corrupt as it is, than listen to a riddler. It's akin to believing the Bible word for word. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, peter said: so what is the ultimate question It has nothing to do with the question of it being a god or alien. Nope. And of course I don't have any answers. Why should I respond to something I am not looking for? Something provides me with approaches when I have questions. There is no reason to consider human concepts. I have been seeing the evil UFOs for my entire so-called life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 hours ago, webtrekker said: Exactly Peter. I, too, have problems with people claiming to know all yet can only speak in riddles. I'd rather place my beliefs in mainstream science, as corrupt as it is, than listen to a riddler. It's akin to believing the Bible word for word. Just generally speaking as I don't know specifically to what you refer. A lot of spiritual teachers speak in riddles and contradictions. This is because anything we say is not the THE truth. The best teacher is silence, that is truth. But silence does not satisfy the ego. Thus teachers are encouraged by students to speak. Although speech itself is not truth, it can point the ego to the truth, which is usually best served with riddles, koans, and contradictions - until the mind gives up seeking and is at peace with the silence. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Science is useful tool but it only relates and explains the happenings of the illusiory construct, it doesn't go beyond that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youknownothingbutyou Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 die, as in, end of consciousness? NOPE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Mr H said: Just generally speaking as I don't know specifically to what you refer. A lot of spiritual teachers speak in riddles and contradictions. This is because anything we say is not the THE truth. The best teacher is silence, that is truth. But silence does not satisfy the ego. Thus teachers are encouraged by students to speak. Although speech itself is not truth, it can point the ego to the truth, which is usually best served with riddles, koans, and contradictions - until the mind gives up seeking and is at peace with the silence. This is because anything we say is not the THE truth. Yes. Language is meaningless, neither is the so-called knowledge of humans. And the causer does not speak. Do you want to see what real communication is? Don't worry, this is a simple pattern. I am not a teacher, I am in the same situation as everyone else. Edited December 17, 2022 by Origin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 4 hours ago, webtrekker said: I'd rather place my beliefs in mainstream science, as corrupt as it is, than listen to a riddler. It's akin to believing the Bible word for word. I believe every word God has breathed into the Bible. King James Bible 1 Timothy 6:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Origin said: This is because anything we say is not the THE truth. Yes. Language is meaningless, neither is the so-called knowledge of humans. And the causer does not speak. Do you want to see what real communication is? Don't worry, this is a simple pattern. I am not a teacher, I am in the same situation as everyone else. Interesting video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Origin Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, alexa said: Interesting video I know. You have never seen anything like this before. Experiencer have to deal with something like this. And nobody can help you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, webtrekker said: I'm glad I didn't pay a lot for his books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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